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Post by pirateb0t on Jul 14, 2017 17:53:40 GMT -5
The update has yet to drop on IOS but in preparation i'm already leveling up my gekkos but I thought that instead of running a gekko patton i'd build something that can hunt gekko pattons and treb butches instead. Every swinging d*ck will be running a patton in IOS soon so now's the time to prepare.
The obvious answer would be to run a galahad or rhino and just ignore the lasers completely but it's more fun to tool some guy across the map in his shiny new toy.
Would a triple gekko/nashorn leo be a good patton hunter? The reasoning behind that is that the leo has an enormous health pool and gekko/nashorn have similar recharge/reload times. I predict a lot of guys will not be running fully leveled pattons too. This build does less damage than a quad gekko patton but you can win via superior health + use of cover.
The other alternative is a gekko/treb setup but this has a drawback of long recharge of a single treb so it's likely you'll be doing lots of partial bursts.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 17:55:05 GMT -5
A Trebuchet Butches are anti Gekko Pattons. 2 good shots at a Gekko Patton sends him runnning for cover or deploying a new bot.
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Post by pirateb0t on Jul 14, 2017 17:57:01 GMT -5
A Trebuchet Butches are anti Gekko Pattons. 2 good shots at a Gekko Patton sends him runnning for cover or deploying a new bot. It doesn't seem like this is the case based on what people are reporting on android. The patton can just sit behind partial cover and gekko the butch until he has to run for cover and not the other way around. Butch is bulky and slow. A large target for sustained laser beams. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 17:58:25 GMT -5
If you advance with cover, you can generally ignore the pattons. They will then expose themselves as they get desperate, trying to get a shot, and get dealt with, or they will stay back and fail to help the red team. Either way is a win for blue. You dont really need to actively hunt them. The Orkan and Taran buffs are what will get your attention.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 17:59:33 GMT -5
A Trebuchet Butches are anti Gekko Pattons. 2 good shots at a Gekko Patton sends him runnning for cover or deploying a new bot. It doesn't seem like this is the case based on what people are reporting on android. The patton can just sit behind partial cover and gekko the butch until he has to run for cover and not the other way around. Butch is bulky and slow. A large target for sustained laser beams. Zenits?  |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 14, 2017 17:59:39 GMT -5
The update has yet to drop on IOS but in preparation i'm already leveling up my gekkos but I thought that instead of running a gekko patton i'd build something that can hunt gekko pattons and treb butches instead. Every swinging d*ck will be running a patton in IOS soon so now's the time to prepare. The obvious answer would be to run a galahad or rhino and just ignore the lasers completely but it's more fun to tool some guy across the map in his shiny new toy. Would a triple gekko/nashorn leo be a good patton hunter? The reasoning behind that is that the leo has an enormous health pool and gekko/nashorn have similar recharge/reload times. I predict a lot of guys will not be running fully leveled pattons too. This build does less damage than a quad gekko patton but you can win via superior health + use of cover. The other alternative is a gekko/treb setup but this has a drawback of long recharge of a single treb so it's likely you'll be doing lots of partial bursts. if you arent leveling them to 12 dont bother. even then..... meh |
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Post by pirateb0t on Jul 14, 2017 18:01:19 GMT -5
It doesn't seem like this is the case based on what people are reporting on android. The patton can just sit behind partial cover and gekko the butch until he has to run for cover and not the other way around. Butch is bulky and slow. A large target for sustained laser beams. Zenits?  |
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jul 14, 2017 21:41:51 GMT -5
A Quad Hydra Doc - 2 level 12 salvos of quad Hydras and a Patton is killed outright if it's less than level 12. A Quad Treb Butch would kill the Patton in under 25 seconds. Any Tempest/Molot Heavy bot can dual the Gekko Patton and easily win. In each of the 3 setups, the 200-400 meters if extra range the Gekkos have either can't be reasonably maintained (i.e., small maps were you are lucky to even get 800m at the farthest sniping positions) or it's too easy to move up to cut that distance down using cover (i.e., EVERY map other than perhaps Canyon if you back up far enough).
Gekkos have to stay too long on target to work and though they've been buffed considerably, the bots that can effectively carry them have not. The Patton is just too slow and too squishy to by useful above Expert league and even below that there are better Gekko platforms.
If you still want to use Gekkos, put them on a Leo --- heck, even with a Zenit for the Heavy hardpoint, you'll way outperform the Gekko Patton simply because you'll last longer.
Let me step back ---- with the Beacon Rush made coming and the Koreans/Scourge too, I'd strongly advise against build right now any setups that have ranges beyond 800m. Long distance setups just aren't going to work very well in Beacon Rush mode and the Scourge will effectively make long distance line-of-sight weapons very iffy to use (cause you can't kill a Bulgasari/Dash Mk3 with any long distance weapon in time before it closes within 600m of you - and then it's over).
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Jul 14, 2017 23:01:24 GMT -5
Hydras! Getting more and more useful!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 0:57:38 GMT -5
You will want range. Fight fire with fire. There are snipers and counter-snipers. Quad-gekko Patton to hunt a quad-Gekko Patton.
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Post by nosinov on Jul 15, 2017 1:49:55 GMT -5
A Trebuchet Butches are anti Gekko Pattons. 2 good shots at a Gekko Patton sends him runnning for cover or deploying a new bot. It doesn't seem like this is the case based on what people are reporting on android. The patton can just sit behind partial cover and gekko the butch until he has to run for cover and not the other way around. Butch is bulky and slow. A large target for sustained laser beams. A Butch is as fast as a Griffin and while he might be a big target, it punishes every mistake of the Patton. |
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Post by Firebeard on Jul 15, 2017 4:20:56 GMT -5
Two options.
1): Stick to cover and use any missile weapon.
2): Gekko Galahad. Zapp 'im back ..
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Post by =Rogue-13= on Jul 16, 2017 0:57:23 GMT -5
A Trebuchet Butches are anti Gekko Pattons. 2 good shots at a Gekko Patton sends him runnning for cover or deploying a new bot. Patton Gekko is an awesome weapon. its weak and can b edestroyed easily... im a Patton Gekko pilot and have been for a while. if you can get to cover its over for the treb! |
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Post by bugdoc on Jul 16, 2017 1:41:16 GMT -5
Here's an oddly effective choice: Gekko/Molot Rhino. Against Gekkos or Trebs the shield is nigh unto invulnerable. Just whittle 'em down with the geckos, wait until they've fired and are reloading, then drop shield and pour a mag full of molot shells into 'em. Another possibility would be a Gekko/Tulu Rhino. Same Rx as above, just need to advance a little closer. |
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Jul 16, 2017 4:09:57 GMT -5
Spiral Hydra Galahad?
Not as fast as a Rhino but you can maneuver any direction with the shield towards the red. When they see you coming they'll probably take cover so line of sight weapons won't be helping. Main problem I see is these guys can back way up and to get within 600m will put you in range of other reds.
Maybe just catching them off guard with your own long range is the best way.
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Post by DarkVagabond on Jul 16, 2017 8:44:19 GMT -5
+1 for Treb Butch. Or Treb Gekko Natasha if you are Butchless haha. Treb Carnage is also very manoeuvrable to get from cover to cover, but I prefer the extra firepower of the other two setups as you don't need too much agility > 600m.
If they try to cornershoot, then it's mission accomplished. A cornershooting Gekko Patton is an ineffective one. Remember, you should also stay close to cover yourself, so you can cover up, select another target until they inevitably get frustrated enough to leave cover, and then you can lay those two Trebs clean to that Patton's FACE. With Trebs you control his movement, not the other way around, especially if they are higher in level.
With the 5% damage buff to Trebs, a maxed Treb Butch will do 73,668 damage points in one cycle. Patton has 127,000 HP at lvl 12. Dead in 25 seconds. Food for thought...
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Post by rustedscrap on Jul 16, 2017 10:26:47 GMT -5
Ive been running a quad pat and treb butch. (Not at same time) so while i am no expert i do condider myself proficient in both platforms.
Ive had 1milli plus games in my pat on yami and canyon; not so in my butch. For a patton there are just too many places on mapsvlike canyon, springfield or yami that i can hide from other snipers while beingvable to still target then with all 4 lasers.. or 1 or 2 or 3. Honestly pix has gon too farceithvgekkosvimo. I can even knife with my pat if needed. Assuming i follow another blue.
To answer ops question line of sight? you will lose or waste your time hurting your teams chances. Best counter to gek pats r hydra/spidra builds. Those piss me off the most. Usually i have no choice but to eject when targeted by those builds.
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