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Aphid Bot
Jul 7, 2017 8:55:47 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Jul 7, 2017 8:55:47 GMT -5
I've got a 5 slot hanger, and I'm currently sitting in Diamond 2 or so for ranking. A while back when I was in Gold Tier I decided that I was going to play a no griffin hanger, so a lot of my hanger are counter meta bots. Right now I'm using a Thunder/Ork Lancelot, Thunder/Punisher Leo, Thunder/Ork Boa, Thunder Carnage and my 5th slot I move around between a maxed speed capper Cossack or a kid/long range bot.
I'm toying with the idea of using that 5th slot for bot that can stack up Aphids for another ambush type bot to go along with the Carnage on cover heavy maps.
What are everyone's thoughts on a good Aphid carrier? I'd like it to be a medium or heavy bot, light bots aren't really my style.
Patton? Leo? Anything else good?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 9:02:21 GMT -5
Aphid Gepard Thunder Aphid Leo Ancile Aphid Leo Aphid Patton
Aphids on Griffins can also work as long as it's paired with Tarans or Orkans.
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Post by Poopface on Jul 7, 2017 9:56:52 GMT -5
Aphid Gepard Thunder Aphid Leo Ancile Aphid Leo Aphid Patton Aphids on Griffins can also work as long as it's paired with Tarans or Orkans. I mostly see them on Griffins, Leos (paired with Thunders), and Pattons with the occasional Gepard thrown in. Quad-Aphids on Pattons are the majority, though.
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Post by DarkVagabond on Jul 7, 2017 10:32:03 GMT -5
I mostly see them on Griffins, Leos (paired with Thunders), and Pattons with the occasional Gepard thrown in. Quad-Aphids on Pattons are the majority, though. What about Jesse quad Aphid setup? It has Gareth speed? This. +1 for you @jarvis . The Aphid Jesse is the number one Aphid setup available in the game. Only the Aphid Jesse has the same firepower as a Patton, but is fast enough not to receive Aphid fire in return. I run one in Expert League at the moment. It sounds like the Aphid Patton is more your style, but I would encourage you to branch out and experiment with speed and agility. Aphid Jesse is the perfect bot with which to do this. Just my 2c
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Post by Poopface on Jul 7, 2017 10:32:16 GMT -5
I mostly see them on Griffins, Leos (paired with Thunders), and Pattons with the occasional Gepard thrown in. Quad-Aphids on Pattons are the majority, though. What about Jesse quad Aphid setup? It has Gareth speed? I don't know why you couldn't do that. I don't have any of the WW bots so I can't speak to how the switch works and what pairings work best. That sort of thing is more up Russel 's alley. I don't remember seeing them in my matches, though. Edit: Nice job beating me to an answer, DarkVagabond. And yours was better, too!
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Post by DarkVagabond on Jul 7, 2017 10:40:31 GMT -5
What about Jesse quad Aphid setup? It has Gareth speed? I don't know why you couldn't do that. I don't have any of the WW bots so I can't speak to how the switch works and what pairings work best. That sort of thing is more up Russel 's alley. I don't remember seeing them in my matches, though. Edit: Nice job beating me to an answer, DarkVagabond . And yours was better, too! Considering I own a Jesse and you don't, if my answer wasn't more informative I should probably be banned from this forum altogether haha.... I think you'll own at least one WW bot before too long though mate
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Post by Russel on Jul 7, 2017 11:10:09 GMT -5
What about Jesse quad Aphid setup? It has Gareth speed? I don't know why you couldn't do that. I don't have any of the WW bots so I can't speak to how the switch works and what pairings work best. That sort of thing is more up Russel 's alley. I don't remember seeing them in my matches, though. Edit: Nice job beating me to an answer, DarkVagabond . And yours was better, too! Oh, hello guys! Yep, I was going to get WW bots post this week, but decided to write up an Guide to Event, seems more appropriate. So WW bots are coming next week! As for the question itself - there are definitely two Aphid gameplay styles, one that suits most Leo and Griffin, with Patton being a bit of a cheaper option; And another is Jesse\Gepard\Stalker\Gareth set up. So if you want the Aphids to get those 「illegitimate child」 who is taking cover - then Leo or a Griffin is your best bet. I would root for Thunder\Aphid Leo, to be honest. You can hit shielded bots from above, got second-largest HP in game, and can protect yourself with Thunder. Ancile Leo is a joke, IMO, every Stalker\Jesse\Gepard\Cossack would bully him to death. However, if your fingers are not agile enough - then Ancile Leo could be your cup of tea. You either soak up damage and kill the enemy, or you die. No hard playing involved. And for Griffin it is nice to get +50m range (if we talk Orkan Griffin), and some "kind of" anti-shield armament (if we talk Taran Griffin). Rhino is no good, his idea is to hold of the enemy while reloading; what's use of the shield if you got 10 seconds Aphid reload? Just be a sitting duck in the pond? I don't feel so. That's for the biggies; now to the small guys. Why I say that Patton is no good? It is pretty slow to be able to run away from anything. Again, whatcha gonna do when somebody comes for you? Any small bot will outrun your Aphids and kill you. Carnage\Griffin\Lancelot will soak up first shot, then use the ability to catch up and kill you. Nah, forget it. But if you are Gepard\Stalker\Jesse\Gareth\Galahad - then it's a game changer, with Jesse being my favorite pick here. I think 2 non-splash Aphids (remember I told you they could curve the shield to some extent? It is best performed by a tall bot, hence the Leo\Griffin) is too low on firepower. You need to upgrade them A LOT for the punch to be at least somewhat decent. Same goes for Gareth\Galahad. Though I saw such setups, I can't say I'm impressed by that too much. So it's better to go for 3\4 options - which leaves us with Gepard\Jesse. And here I would go for Jesse - you can get it for cheap, thanks to FB currency, and it is FAST. I mean - real FAST. Check out how underleveled Jesse - it is LEVEL THREE, mind you, with lvl5 Aphids! - could take on the Lance. Of course there were other guys helping; but once again - LEVEL THREE bot and LEVEL FIVE weapons. So this beauty can hit hard and run away before enemy notice. As for Gepard - first warning DO NOT BUY GEPARD. It is not worth the gold, none, zero. However, if you got your Gep already - it is okay to use Aphids; speed is only 58 km/h (Jesse is 64), you got only 3 slots vs 4, but he's agile and with decent durability. So if you got Gep already or will get it from the chest.... Forget it, Jesse is better in every possible way. Even QuickSwitch is 10 seconds, and Aphid reloads in 10 seconds.... P.s. personally I find Aphids not THAT good in general, but that's a different story altogether.
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Post by mijapi300 on Jul 7, 2017 11:27:25 GMT -5
I don't have one, but I would venture to guess that a Jesse is the best Aphid platform. Same firepower as Patton with much more speed.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jul 7, 2017 11:40:42 GMT -5
I have recently been playing my Patton Aphid build again... and Oh man, I am sorry I don't do it more. On some maps and in some games, it is an absolute rain maker. Ag falling from the sky straight into the wallet! Seriously though... at least a level 9 Patton and level 8 or higher Aphids, and you will know the worth of that bot-build. I have a Jesse, 2, in fact, both level 9. Aphids are the only thing I run on that bot if I am seriously playing... mainly b/c I only have 2 Pins leveled, or I would run that too... but anyway, I digress. Jesse Aphid is mad fun, but, a little harder to learn. If you have a Patton, use that. Get 4 Leveled Aphids on there and get used to staying in cover and CONSTANTLY checking what Reds are around you and trying to determine what they are running BEFORE they get close. Remember, Griffs can hit from above... that RDB that you dismissed b/c he is 550m away can pop up and shoot down on you if he jumps toward you... the apex of his jump ought to put him right at 500m if he starts from 550, so you will get a good bit of that salvo if he aims well... and Patton is sorta squishy, if not so much as Jesse. Anyway, the reason I say Patton for learning, is that you need to focus on Aphid usage first... when to use them, when not to, and at what target. How to hide from other Aphid shots and quickly get counter shots off... how and when to shoot individually instead of all at once. These things are what make an Aphid player dangerous... not the bot. The bot can tweak that performance up or down, depending, but the basic essence is on Aphid technique. Once you are hitting what you want to hit with them, then try the Jesse... I say that b/c you have another layer of complication in there now that makes things more thought intensive as you learn... the switch. Getting 4 single shots off in the timing you need to to take down a Carnage's Ancile, which Aphids of similar levels WILL do and the last one should actually cause damage, is harder when you have the switch in the mix. Leo is great fun with Aphids, but you have a more situational play-style. Thunder is prolly best to pair with them, but Ancile and Zeus are both capable of working well with that setup... Ancile MUCH more than Zeus, but that is a whole other thread idea. Anyway, just my .02 IMO, YMMV
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jul 7, 2017 11:44:07 GMT -5
Oh, and Patton can sidestep return Aphid volleys just fine... they may take a few hits, but not the full on salvo unless the shooter has a diagonal angle that makes the sidestep, not a sidestep.
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Post by miscanthus on Jul 7, 2017 12:26:32 GMT -5
It took me quite a while to get good at my Aphid Jesse. I've shelved this guy many times in frustration. With experience, you start to really learn the good places to shoot from on each map. The lower arms take a while to get used to. I have launched those lower aphids into more walls than I'd like to admit. Here are a some tricks I've learned:
1) If your opponent is slightly higher in elevation than you the aphids arc up very quickly avoiding many obstacles.
2) It's hard to use the lower aphids on ramps. Many times they will hit the ramp immediately after launch. On Yam's or the Moon ramps launch from the base of the ramp. The aphids will arc very high clearing all obstacles.
3) Severely curving aphids with the Jesse is a challenge. The first set of arms is easy, but you often lose your target lock when using the quick draw ability. Don't try to curve all 4 aphids. Just curve the first set, get behind cover, aquire another lock and curve the remaining two.
4) Don't be afraid to run away. With practice, you can back pedal the majority of missiles fired at you.
5) Pick you targets wisely. Go after heavy bots first. Griffins, Leo, Furys and Nats are easy kills if you are patient. Ancilots are harder but doable. Time Rog jumps and fire when they land. If possible, avoid Gary.
My Jesse is probably my favorite bot. Although, I mostly play with quad aphids, aphid/pinata or quad pinatas are also very fun.
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Post by Russel on Jul 7, 2017 12:54:19 GMT -5
Some more random funny stuff. If you are playing Aphid bot - don't be like the next picture. If youSome more random funny stuff. If you play Aphid bot - don't be like the next picture. If you play slow bot - don't be like the next picture. If you play War Robots - don't be like next picture Be AWARE of the situation. And some more fun quiz: Guess what's the weapons in the picture? The yellow projectiles with straight black trail? It's the Aphids! So if you ever see Aphid behaving this way - it's time for your phone to cool down. Most probably game is freezing up and loosing frames by that time, too. (That was MY actual shot while sidestepping)
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Aphid Bot
Jul 7, 2017 12:56:40 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Jul 7, 2017 12:56:40 GMT -5
Can someone explain how to get the Jesse via "Facebook" currency? I've never bothered to try to get influence points because I don't think I have any FB friends that would sign up for anything War Robots related...
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Post by Russel on Jul 7, 2017 13:06:08 GMT -5
Can someone explain how to get the Jesse via "Facebook" currency? I've never bothered to try to get influence points because I don't think I have any FB friends that would sign up for anything War Robots related... As long as this forum does not allow cheating\hacking, I would suggest you get some friends who got FB accounts, invite them, install a game and play at their phone till you get to lvl5. If they would like to keep playing - more fun for you and them.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jul 7, 2017 13:10:37 GMT -5
It took me quite a while to get good at my Aphid Jesse. I've shelved this guy many times in frustration. With experience, you start to really learn the good places to shoot from on each map. The lower arms take a while to get used to. I have launched those lower aphids into more walls than I'd like to admit. Here are a some tricks I've learned: 1) If your opponent is slightly higher in elevation than you the aphids arc up very quickly avoiding many obstacles. 2) It's hard to use the lower aphids on ramps. Many times they will hit the ramp immediately after launch. On Yam's or the Moon ramps launch from the base of the ramp. Many times the aphids will arc very high clearing all obstacles. 3) Severely curving aphids with the Jesse is a challenge. The first set of arms is easy, but you often lose your target lock when using the quick draw ability. Don't try to curve all 4 aphids. Just curve the first set, get behind cover, aquire another lock and curve the remaining two. 4) Don't be afraid to run away. With practice, you can back pedal the majority of missiles fired at you. 5) Pick you targets wisely. Go after heavy bots first. Griffins, Leo, Furys and Nats are easy kills if you are patient. Ancilots are harder but doable. Time Rog jumps and fire when they land. If possible, avoid Gary. My Jesse is probably my favorite bot. Although, I mostly play with quad aphids, aphid/pinata or quad pinatas are also very fun. On point observations... and yeah the Aphid Pinata was the only hybrid weapon setup I liked too. Good Post!
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Post by Russel on Jul 7, 2017 13:19:27 GMT -5
Ohh and the most important observation of them all. Targeting is SUPER STRANGE with aphids. You need to use Target lock 100%, all day, every day long.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jul 7, 2017 13:22:41 GMT -5
Ohh and the most important observation of them all. Targeting is SUPER STRANGE with aphids. You need to use Target lock 100%, all day, every day long. Especially in the Jesse with the switch mechanic... like was said above, without target lock it is a bit... screwy.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 7, 2017 13:30:30 GMT -5
My honest dialogue running different aphid mechs:
Leo - oh for Pete sake I shoulda put other stuff on here Griffin - umm. Nope. This simply will not do. Gepard - boy this was fun in silver and gold league, but wow, better get Jesse out instead. Patton - wow that salvo looked cool - (return fire) - oh 「dookie」 oh 「dookie」 oh 「dookie」 oh 「dookie」 Jesse - wow. Haha ya missed me. Imma get all those beacons way over there and come back to help you. Lancelot, Ancelot, let's brawwwwllll baby, hell yeah! [laughing so hard it hurts]
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Post by nightmarepatrol on Jul 7, 2017 18:17:08 GMT -5
I have a Thunder/Aphid Leo. The only problem is that it's really slow. Add to that the recent trajectory change in the aphids means changes such as giving yourself enough room to clear obstacles. A Leo will take a beating before it crumbles though. Since the last event and now this one I have come into possession of three gekkos I'm currently upgrading. I had a treb collecting dust and I'm probably going to make a reach-out-and-touch-someone bot. I have a TT Fury for mid range, but Fury's die quick up close or when you've got no support nearby. So I think I'll give a long range bot another shot. Gekkos aren't just a PITA annoyance weapon any more.
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Post by Jame-thon on Jul 7, 2017 19:02:27 GMT -5
I have recently been playing my Patton Aphid build again... and Oh man, I am sorry I don't do it more. On some maps and in some games, it is an absolute rain maker. Ag falling from the sky straight into the wallet! Seriously though... at least a level 9 Patton and level 8 or higher Aphids, and you will know the worth of that bot-build. I have a Jesse, 2, in fact, both level 9. Aphids are the only thing I run on that bot if I am seriously playing... mainly b/c I only have 2 Pins leveled, or I would run that too... but anyway, I digress. Jesse Aphid is mad fun, but, a little harder to learn. If you have a Patton, use that. Get 4 Leveled Aphids on there and get used to staying in cover and CONSTANTLY checking what Reds are around you and trying to determine what they are running BEFORE they get close. Remember, Griffs can hit from above... that RDB that you dismissed b/c he is 550m away can pop up and shoot down on you if he jumps toward you... the apex of his jump ought to put him right at 500m if he starts from 550, so you will get a good bit of that salvo if he aims well... and Patton is sorta squishy, if not so much as Jesse. Anyway, the reason I say Patton for learning, is that you need to focus on Aphid usage first... when to use them, when not to, and at what target. How to hide from other Aphid shots and quickly get counter shots off... how and when to shoot individually instead of all at once. These things are what make an Aphid player dangerous... not the bot. The bot can tweak that performance up or down, depending, but the basic essence is on Aphid technique. Once you are hitting what you want to hit with them, then try the Jesse... I say that b/c you have another layer of complication in there now that makes things more thought intensive as you learn... the switch. Getting 4 single shots off in the timing you need to to take down a Carnage's Ancile, which Aphids of similar levels WILL do and the last one should actually cause damage, is harder when you have the switch in the mix. Leo is great fun with Aphids, but you have a more situational play-style. Thunder is prolly best to pair with them, but Ancile and Zeus are both capable of working well with that setup... Ancile MUCH more than Zeus, but that is a whole other thread idea. Anyway, just my .02 IMO, YMMV What about (4) geckos on the patton? I've seen some leveld up geckos and it can really hurt when 4 are constant on a soft bot like a griffin or carnage.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 8, 2017 10:22:45 GMT -5
"I find your lack of plasma disturbing"
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Post by carnage on Jul 8, 2017 13:47:05 GMT -5
Talking about Aphid carriers, I would love to see a heavy robot with five light slots on it.
I'd put five Aphids on it, could be pretty cool. Basically a heavier Patton.
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