It's not op. It's more versatile.

Bruh I basically said this in the other thread complaining about the "buff" or should I say rework to Tulu/Pin/Pinata

OP = learn to fight and load out better

Where exactly did you get these numbers?

With this reload, you will be hurt more often. But you wont be hurt more, per say.

Remember that I said it was proportional to original relaod times and it is also proportional to rocket count. In other words, you will unload either a burst of your rocket of choice and wait the full reload of 18 seconds for your next salvo, or you will continue firing the same amount of rockets over that 18 second period. Pixonic has the data. Besides, not waiting will actually decrease your burst damage, and result in astronomically slow volleys.

they should just ditch this buff imo
pls don't roast me

500M auto reload is not as important as 300M

I'm not freaking out, but the Piñata basically syncing in with the Orkan's reload/fire sequence is a HUGE deal.

This adds an extra 4K damage per second to the DB Griffin/Rhino or 6K damage per second to the Tri-Piñata Leo after the initial 16 rockets are unloaded.

While it's probably true that the CRVs and Tuls won't get a meaningful boost from this buff, the Pinatas will become gold value weapons.

Think about this, the L12 DB dumps roughly 130ish damage and after unload it will take about 10 extra seconds to kill a Lance (usually the Griff doesn't get to Piñata reload before the lance kills it) - but with the Pinatas firing along with the Orkans, the Griff kills the Lance only 5 seconds after full unload.

The Tri-piñata/Thunder Leo will suddenly become a really credible knifer since the extra 6K piñata damage per second after initial unload adds up to a kill against most bots (especially pesky Stalkers).

I look forward to thus rocket weapon buff, as it would put rockets on closer terms with mags/Tarans as far as knifers are concerned.

I'm glad somebody else did the maths, because it agrees with what I've been saying as well. This does not change the total damage output of any of these weapons, not by burst fire rates nor by full cycle rates. I see only two real impacts this change will have. One is the option of a constant stream of weak-by-themselves rockets after burst-firing, which has a negligible DPS, even when multiplied by 4 times, as in most meta-builds using any rockets. I also see a slight change in the stop&resume-fire functionality, which would allow for more flexibility in camping strategies, like peek-and-poke and round-robins and the like.

I don't see any of this making a damned bit of difference in the Gold and higher battle tiers. Meta-rocket-builds already mostly have Orkans and nobody seriously complains that they are OP. A death-from-above attack from a Griffin is still going to hurt the same, long or short range. 600m rockets with the same option doesn't seem like that big of a threat either, I'm still going to get pummeled by all the Aphids and Tridents long before the mid-ranger rocket jockeys can be at the same threat level.

I'm coming out as for this change because of the newbies. All of the impacted weapons can be bought for silver at low character levels. A newbie in a 4XPin Patton just might stand a chance against a TMGep, using better range and reload-while-shooting panic fire. As it stands now, that example Patton will almost always lose to a TMGep.

Like Mechronis, I've been saying the exact same thing to the thread complaining that "OMG the DB and RDB are gonna wreck everything now"

First of all, its not going to as waiting 15 seconds to unload 16 rockets in a very short amount of time deals the SAME damage as unloading 16 rockets in a 15 second time period, but the second option just leaves you out in the open for longer, increasing your chances of dying and decreases your burst damage, if anything, this could be a NERF to the rockets as most people physiologically would want to take advantage of this ability and stand out in the open to unload missiles instead of heading for cover and wait for a good amount of missiles to reload (as everyone likes that health bar going down), this would increase the chance of death or increase the damage taken by the RDB and DB due to this physiological effect MOST people would have (as I already see many people just reloading while firing with their Orkans now anyways and end up dying before their Pinatas reload)

For those complaining about "Their weakness is their reload time", yes it is, but after you unloaded all your missiles on your DB, you are practically defenceless unless the enemy has literally no health because shooting 1 missile dealing about 1 thousand damage every second isn't a very good defence against something like a PDB Griffin/Rhino/Fujin or basically any META setup, if anything even a Mag Gep could kill you before you kill it as you are barely doing any damage to it, the DB play style would probably still be best to jump out and shoot and get back to cover to reload some missiles and finish off the target

The only thing is teak helps to Tulu/Pin/Pinata is utility, you dont have to waste all your Tulu/Pin/Pinata ammo on a guy that has no health. As Mechronis said, this does NOT effect damage dealt in a full volley and does NOT effect DPS and DPM, this only adds more versatility and utility to the weapons so they can be more useful in certain situations like the one I said above

4 thousand damage every 2.25 seconds from an RDB is barely anything compared to any bots total health pool, once they exhaust their intial loadout, rush in a kill them, they might do some damage that you wouldnt have otherwise taken if a reload time was there, but thats nothing. Plus shield bots need a nerf anyways, Galahad is very powerful right now in the fact that it can literally outrun a full DB salvo, to add to that its a medium bot with nearly the firepower of a Griffin or Rhino (minus 1 medium slot) 

Yes but a good Galahad pilot wouldnt just stand out in the open and let an Russian Death Button or Fury Trident let hell loose on it, but yes Galahads are much easier to kill with mid range support bots, but usually you prioritise other mid rangers to win the battle of mid ranging (god thats a lot of "mid range" I said right there)

If this is OK, why even apply a reload time? Give Tridents the same love too, rockets every 4.6 (or 3.3 if just reload time is used). Sound good? Awsome, Tri Furies will just put you under a 600 meter blanket of constant rocket fire....

If a constant fire trident seems op as heck (which it would be), then the same mentality should apply to other midrange weps.

The issue is less about sustained dps, but the fact that Tumb and Pins have greater range. The break in firing a reload time gives provides the opponent the chance to either run to cover or try and close the distance. Taking this away you heavily favor the shooter and remove any balance for the target.

In the end though, I agree with tinthefiend, will wait to see what happens. As it stands the FB post received huge amounts of negative feedback to the idea. Will see what Pix decides to do...