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Post by shakingrabbit on Jun 21, 2017 7:41:27 GMT -5
Let's say large target like a Nat or Leo, what is the effective range with these two weapons? Puns effective range <200m? Molots, <600m?
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Post by Dredd77 on Jun 21, 2017 7:45:38 GMT -5
At least one of those two is mightier than the sword...
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Post by carnage on Jun 21, 2017 8:18:02 GMT -5
There is actually a good question that we can derivate from the OP.
* Punishers are mainly effective under 200/300m, fine.
* Molots are mainly effective under 500/600m, ideally.
That answers the OP.
Now another question where I really don't know the answer is to know which weapon is the best for a 400/500 range ? Under 300m, Punishers, sure. Above 500m, Molots. But what about the range in between, 300 to 500m ? Logically that should be close... logically. But I would still be very interested to know which weapon is actually the best for that range.
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Post by adrenachrome on Jun 21, 2017 8:46:29 GMT -5
There is actually a good question that we can derivate from the OP. * Punishers are mainly effective under 200/300m, fine. * Molots are mainly effective under 500/600m, ideally. That answers the OP. Now another question where I really don't know the answer is to know which weapon is the best for a 400/500 range ? Under 300m, Punishers, sure. Above 500m, Molots. But what about the range in between, 300 to 500m ? Logically that should be close... logically. But I would still be very interested to know which weapon is actually the best for that range. Neither is your answer. You run tulu for 4-500 meters. I run molot trident Leo. level 10 Leo, 10 molots, 12 trident. I try very hard to stay in the sweet spot of 500-600 meters. Where my trident hits but tulu don't. I out dps and crush trident fury and can take down trident carnages. The ancile is tough but can be done. I actually brawled a couple minutes 1v1 a trident carny yesterday. I won but had to drop a new bot. 10 k hit points and 2 molots left... Molots are most effective at 5-600 meters. They due slightly more damage as you get closer but not a lot. I also run a punisher fujin. Punishers actually do damage at 450 meters. Not a ton but enough to make them stop shooting and find cover. 350 meters they are good. 250 meters really good. 150 meters Great. 50 meters they will rip your face off... They are like the thunder doing more damage the closer you get. My fujin with 3 level 10 punishers has 330,000 damage potential in a single volley. At 50 meters you get 99% of that potential. No bot 1v1 can survive. If all else is equal. |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jun 21, 2017 8:55:43 GMT -5
Call it half for punishers, molots ~600.
Different animals too, molots, you're taking out their long range so 800 is fine to start keeping their heads down. Damage will stattt adding up fast and they know it.
Punishers, good damage is ~250-300, but 500 is fine for stripping anciles, not for making furies run. They'll just look at you and think "mmmm, lunch!"
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Post by miscanthus on Jun 21, 2017 10:20:37 GMT -5
There is actually a good question that we can derivate from the OP. * Punishers are mainly effective under 200/300m, fine. * Molots are mainly effective under 500/600m, ideally. That answers the OP. Now another question where I really don't know the answer is to know which weapon is the best for a 400/500 range ? Under 300m, Punishers, sure. Above 500m, Molots. But what about the range in between, 300 to 500m ? Logically that should be close... logically. But I would still be very interested to know which weapon is actually the best for that range. Neither is your answer. You run tulu for 4-500 meters. I run molot trident Leo. level 10 Leo, 10 molots, 12 trident. I try very hard to stay in the sweet spot of 500-600 meters. Where my trident hits but tulu don't. I out dps and crush trident fury and can take down trident carnages. The ancile is tough but can be done. I actually brawled a couple minutes 1v1 a trident carny yesterday. I won but had to drop a new bot. 10 k hit points and 2 molots left... Molots are most effective at 5-600 meters. They due slightly more damage as you get closer but not a lot. I also run a punisher fujin. Punishers actually do damage at 450 meters. Not a ton but enough to make them stop shooting and find cover. 350 meters they are good. 250 meters really good. 150 meters Great. 50 meters they will rip your face off... They are like the thunder doing more damage the closer you get. My fujin with 3 level 10 punishers has 330,000 damage potential in a single volley. At 50 meters you get 99% of that potential. No bot 1v1 can survive. If all else is equal. I ran into a Leo Trident/Molot bot about the same level as yours. It may of even been you. The pilot was very good. He just stayed out of RDB range and shredded anything that got close. I was impressed at seeing a uncommon combo doing very well. |
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Post by adrenachrome on Jun 21, 2017 10:38:41 GMT -5
Neither is your answer. You run tulu for 4-500 meters. I run molot trident Leo. level 10 Leo, 10 molots, 12 trident. I try very hard to stay in the sweet spot of 500-600 meters. Where my trident hits but tulu don't. I out dps and crush trident fury and can take down trident carnages. The ancile is tough but can be done. I actually brawled a couple minutes 1v1 a trident carny yesterday. I won but had to drop a new bot. 10 k hit points and 2 molots left... Molots are most effective at 5-600 meters. They due slightly more damage as you get closer but not a lot. I also run a punisher fujin. Punishers actually do damage at 450 meters. Not a ton but enough to make them stop shooting and find cover. 350 meters they are good. 250 meters really good. 150 meters Great. 50 meters they will rip your face off... They are like the thunder doing more damage the closer you get. My fujin with 3 level 10 punishers has 330,000 damage potential in a single volley. At 50 meters you get 99% of that potential. No bot 1v1 can survive. If all else is equal. I ran into a Leo Trident/Molot bot about the same level as yours. It may of even been you. The pilot was very good. He just stayed out of RDB range and shredded anything that got close. I was impressed at seeing a uncommon combo doing very well. Thank you for the compliment. I have only seen 1 other Leo molot, trident. Usually guys run pins... So it's actually a really good chance you seen me. The main reason most shy away from projectile weapons is they really do suck until higher levels... Can't lie....I dropped $20 on gold to bring my trident from 10-12 and my Molots from 8-10. It was Sooooooooo worth it. At least in Diamond 3 it is a solid bot. Treb butch or anything with gekko and treb is my nemesis. Otherwise I can take down anything else simply bye back peddling and staying out of taran range... Usually I only die when the enemy team gets sick of me and all come at me like a swarm of angry bees!!! Lol |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 11:39:30 GMT -5
At least one of those two is mightier than the sword... Uh, Dredd, that's a pen.......... |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jun 21, 2017 11:41:17 GMT -5
At least one of those two is mightier than the sword... Uh, Dredd, that's a pen.......... Yeah, think he was reaching for that joke... |
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Post by Poopface on Jun 21, 2017 11:43:40 GMT -5
False advertising! I was expecting this thread to be dedicated to Molots and stupid jokes your dad tells. At least Dredd gets it. Don't tell Atilla, though. He may ride in on his horse and then its all over. |
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Post by elcheapo on Jun 21, 2017 17:21:57 GMT -5
I wish they would give the proper effective range stats or at least both minimum and maximum range damage .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 18:39:12 GMT -5
I also run a punisher fujin. Punishers actually do damage at 450 meters. Not a ton but enough to make them stop shooting and find cover. 350 meters they are good. 250 meters really good. 150 meters Great. 50 meters they will rip your face off... They are like the thunder doing more damage the closer you get. My fujin with 3 level 10 punishers has 330,000 damage potential in a single volley. At 50 meters you get 99% of that potential. No bot 1v1 can survive. If all else is equal. I'm sorry, but can you clarify what you said about your Punisher Fujin beating any bot in a fair 1v1? |
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Post by adrenachrome on Jun 21, 2017 19:05:53 GMT -5
I also run a punisher fujin. Punishers actually do damage at 450 meters. Not a ton but enough to make them stop shooting and find cover. 350 meters they are good. 250 meters really good. 150 meters Great. 50 meters they will rip your face off... They are like the thunder doing more damage the closer you get. My fujin with 3 level 10 punishers has 330,000 damage potential in a single volley. At 50 meters you get 99% of that potential. No bot 1v1 can survive. If all else is equal. I'm sorry, but can you clarify what you said about your Punisher Fujin beating any bot in a fair 1v1? That may have been a bit of an overstatement...? It sounded good at the time... I lose to plasma. But I eat carnage thunder and anything not plasma.... I really just like watching them melt.... It's not burst damage like plasma or rockets... I call it letting them eat. Nom nom nom |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 19:14:04 GMT -5
Uh, Dredd, that's a pen.......... Yeah, think he was reaching for that joke... Knew that, but ya never know about some people on this forum |
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Post by tekkamanblade on Jun 22, 2017 4:43:26 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but can you clarify what you said about your Punisher Fujin beating any bot in a fair 1v1? That may have been a bit of an overstatement...? It sounded good at the time... I lose to plasma. But I eat carnage thunder and anything not plasma.... I really just like watching them melt.... It's not burst damage like plasma or rockets... I call it letting them eat. Nom nom nom Carnage could melt your shield at 500m and close in <50m circle around so your punisher lose its aim. Then when that 10 sec reload comes, he nom nom you. Punisher is not that good as you thought, close range long exposure long reload time. Big No No. |
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Post by Russel on Jun 22, 2017 5:01:32 GMT -5
Let's say large target like a Nat or Leo, what is the effective range with these two weapons? Puns effective range <200m? Molots, <600m? Leo actually is not that big.  And Molots are pretty good up to 700, based on my experience. Punishers are good only for popping Ancile OR closer than 150m range If you think that Punishers are good at longer distance - try same level Plasma weaponry. |
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Post by adrenachrome on Jun 22, 2017 8:17:35 GMT -5
That may have been a bit of an overstatement...? It sounded good at the time... I lose to plasma. But I eat carnage thunder and anything not plasma.... I really just like watching them melt.... It's not burst damage like plasma or rockets... I call it letting them eat. Nom nom nom Carnage could melt your shield at 500m and close in <50m circle around so your punisher lose its aim. Then when that 10 sec reload comes, he nom nom you. Punisher is not that good as you thought, close range long exposure long reload time. Big No No. Maybe in silver league... Not to much sneaks up on me. But yes it does happen. Anything can happen. Just sayin the punishers are very competitive if used correctly. And I really enjoy them. Sorry to get a little on the fish tail side... I get excited. They do work good? |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jun 22, 2017 8:23:18 GMT -5
There are MANY weapons/load-outs that are not the best that do work. Of those, Punishers are the most fun, to me. Yes other weapons outclass them. But on the flip side, Punishers applied at the right time and place are freaking awesome! adrenachrome I still have to get 1 more Mk2 up to try the Fujin... and I want to... but have a few things to knock out, first. |
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Post by adrenachrome on Jun 22, 2017 9:15:28 GMT -5
Fujin made 10 on punishers this morning. I am going to bring my rhino up now...  |
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