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Post by goatking219 on Dec 20, 2016 12:58:21 GMT -5
Natasha. The name alone invokes so much sighing and anger from deep within most. Why does it exist? We may never know. For some people, Natasha is a heavy sniper that loses it's use when level twenty is reached. For others, and the vast majority, it's a sign of imminent defeat. The more Natashas there are, the less likely victory is.
But enough poetic filler, let's get to the meat of my argument: Natashas are worthless filler that replaces what could have been a knife fighter or beacon runner. I personally feel like a Destrier with two Punishers is more useful than a Natasha with anything. At least a Destrier TRIES. A Natasha is literally a waste of space. It's shots don't hit, it has other, USEFUL, bots... But no, 'I feel like spewing roasted marshmallows in the enemy's general direction is a perfect job for a kid like me.'. Go to hell. Please. Do us a favor, you waste of oxygen that justifies my primal, ape-like rage.
In conclusion, Natasha should be removed along with Zenit and Noricum and thrown into the firey pits of hell.
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Post by Idras on Dec 20, 2016 14:26:18 GMT -5
Natasha has the second most firepower in the game, most firepower is the Fury
Fury costs 5000 GOLD, Natasha costs 170000 Silver,
To have that much firepower and be that cheap
Something's gotta go.
And that something was the speed.
But due to the speed buff in a previous patch the natasha is now more viable
Zenit Noricum Natashas are slowly disappearing
And natashas that use the Kang-Dae, Kwk 40cm, Trident, and the Trebuchet are appearing much more often
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Post by Flukey*Lukey on Dec 20, 2016 14:59:41 GMT -5
Trident pin Natashas should not be laughed at, similar sort of damage as trident fury (I think) and I once messed around with Zeus + spirals in high silver and had surprising success
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Post by Curry Pot on Dec 20, 2016 15:14:52 GMT -5
Trident pin Natashas are powerful, but are painfully slow and have a shorter range than a real fury. The speed of the natasha is a major downside, which is why splash leos and RDBs are much more common as midrange support bots despite both of them having less firepower. Plus, the natasha has what is possibly the largest hitbox in the game and just eats up bullets and thunder pellets, and doesn't have the armor to tank.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 20, 2016 16:14:44 GMT -5
Natasha is the sniper equivalent of the destrier.
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Post by goatking219 on Dec 20, 2016 16:49:38 GMT -5
True, but I still find something like a Golem or Vityaz more useful. They at least somewhat control your team's advance by offering suppressive fire for cappers, assisting knife fighters, or generally not being a slow, giant target. Maybe I've just been missusing those particular bots, but I still find Natasha to be the source of all evil. I think they should switch it with Fury, since Fury is undoubtedly a better sniper or supporter.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 20, 2016 16:52:21 GMT -5
True, but I still find something like a Golem or Vityaz more useful. They at least somewhat control your team's advance by offering suppressive fire for cappers, assisting knife fighters, or generally not being a slow, giant target. Maybe I've just been missusing those particular bots, but I still find Natasha to be the source of all evil. I think they should switch it with Fury, since Fury is undoubtedly a better sniper or supporter. not everyone can just "switch to a fury" y'know?  5000 gold is not something easily obtained, especially for new players. |
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Post by moody on Dec 20, 2016 17:59:07 GMT -5
I have had some luck with Natashas for knife fighting. Dual thunder dual magnum can't exactly be laughed off.
Wouldn't work in higher tiers as people actually know what they are doing - but in mid silver I've been highest damage and highest beacons starting with a Natasha.
Of course, I don't expect any of my bots to survive more than 2 minutes.
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Post by goatking219 on Dec 20, 2016 18:04:12 GMT -5
True, but I still find something like a Golem or Vityaz more useful. They at least somewhat control your team's advance by offering suppressive fire for cappers, assisting knife fighters, or generally not being a slow, giant target. Maybe I've just been missusing those particular bots, but I still find Natasha to be the source of all evil. I think they should switch it with Fury, since Fury is undoubtedly a better sniper or supporter. not everyone can just "switch to a fury" y'know? 5000 gold is not something easily obtained, especially for new players. My bad, I must have worded it wrong. What I meant was for them to change places in the store, making Fury the norm and Natasha a special bot. |
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Post by moody on Dec 20, 2016 18:12:28 GMT -5
not everyone can just "switch to a fury" y'know? 5000 gold is not something easily obtained, especially for new players. My bad, I must have worded it wrong. What I meant was for them to change places in the store, making Fury the norm and Natasha a special bot. Gold for a Natasha??? |
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Post by goatking219 on Dec 20, 2016 18:14:07 GMT -5
Yeah. Pay to be useless. It's not the not itself, it's the novelty of it being regarded as useless.
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Post by SGT D00M! on Dec 20, 2016 19:18:41 GMT -5
This thread makes me really want to run my 5 Tasha hangar....
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Post by BLYTHE on Dec 20, 2016 20:29:16 GMT -5
I so miss the days when you could easily push them down to force them to eject into another (hopefully) more useful bot. What used to get my goat was when you realize the Nat pilot actually had a boa or a grif but instead decided to stay in the Natasha the entire game which cost his team the game.
I say we all sign a petition to Pix: Make pushing easy again!
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 20, 2016 20:32:03 GMT -5
I so miss the days when you could easily push them down to force them to eject into another (hopefully) more useful bot. What used to get my goat was when you realize the Nat pilot actually had a boa or a grif but instead decided to stay in the Natasha the entire game which cost his team the game. I say we all sign a petition to Pix: Make pushing easy again! honestly I just take what I get now. If players are content with doing absolutely nothing to benefit their team then it is up to them. I wish you could more easily get past teammates that pretty much block your path though. |
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Post by BLYTHE on Dec 20, 2016 20:53:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I know what you mean. I used to bail when I see more than 2 campers, now I just say, Good, more damage for me then.
Besides, I need more silver than gold. Nice to win though to get than 50% bonus, but I just take it as it comes.
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Post by goatking219 on Dec 20, 2016 21:42:34 GMT -5
I HATE seeing them being a Natasha until the enemy has killed everyone else and they die and switch to a perfectly fine Boa or Patton.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 20, 2016 22:23:23 GMT -5
Really, if it moves and it shouldn't, duct tape, if it doesn't move and it should, WD40. Looks like the FattyNatty needs more of the latter.
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Post by goatking219 on Dec 20, 2016 22:42:34 GMT -5
I'd play it more if it were faster, but then it'd be a slightly better Carnage without a shield.
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Post by EatStinkyTofu on Dec 21, 2016 21:40:45 GMT -5
I capped dead City center beacon with a Natasha once--mid-match. I thought I deserved 1000 Au bonus for pulling that off. Hahahaha
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 22:54:34 GMT -5
I have had some luck with Natashas for knife fighting. Dual thunder dual magnum can't exactly be laughed off. Wouldn't work in higher tiers as people actually know what they are doing - but in mid silver I've been highest damage and highest beacons starting with a Natasha. Of course, I don't expect any of my bots to survive more than 2 minutes. In silver, a well placed Thunder Natasha near a beacon can prevent the reds from taking it for quite a while |
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Post by RightOn on Dec 22, 2016 8:12:14 GMT -5
A treb/gekko natasha has something like 150k max dpm, deadly to anything but shield bots. (You can fire trebs about 3 times a minute and Gekkos twice every treb)
If you can't learn to separate your shots and strategize then don't use a TG Tasha!
2 Gekkos is better than 1 treb, so Natasha is the best sniper overall. It does take some finesse, so if you don't have the patience to learn the technique just leave it to Treb Fury (which is a prime example of a Trident Fury killer)
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 22, 2016 14:01:19 GMT -5
A treb/gekko natasha has something like 150k max dpm, deadly to anything but shield bots. (You can fire trebs about 3 times a minute and Gekkos twice every treb) If you can't learn to separate your shots and strategize then don't use a TG Tasha! 2 Gekkos is better than 1 treb, so Natasha is the best sniper overall. It does take some finesse, so if you don't have the patience to learn the technique just leave it to Treb Fury (which is a prime example of a Trident Fury killer) may be the best sniper for damage, but really a long ranged weapon that requires continuous line of sight just isn't practical. Especially in the higher tiers. |
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Post by EatStinkyTofu on Dec 27, 2016 0:01:04 GMT -5
I ran out my Nat for fun--but then I couldn't move out of the way of zenits. How embarrassing.
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Post by Natasha on Jan 5, 2017 21:25:56 GMT -5
Hmm, if Natasha is so bad, why am I usually the top player with my Nat? I open with my Stalker, get as many beacons as I can before being destroyed, hopefully take out a Fury in the process which is my favorite thing to do, then bring out that big B!#ch and rake in the silver. The best part is seeing my team mates that are obviously disturbed by my presence (by bumping into me or shooting me) and then at the end of the game seeing my name above theirs!!! HA HA!
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 5, 2017 21:28:46 GMT -5
Hmm, if Natasha is so bad, why am I usually the top player with my Nat? I open with my Stalker, get as many beacons as I can before being destroyed, hopefully take out a Fury in the process which is my favorite thing to do, then bring out that big B!#ch and rake in the silver. The best part is seeing my team mates that are obviously disturbed by my presence (by bumping into me or shooting me) and then at the end of the game seeing my name above theirs!!! HA HA! honestly it doesnt take much to be the top damaging player regardless of the setup you use on your bots. Achieving top damage with a particular setup does not make it good. If you played witj a different bot aside from the natasha in your hangar in the same game, then it is fairly certain you would have achieved an even higher score. |
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Post by goatking219 on Jan 5, 2017 22:12:29 GMT -5
Hmm, if Natasha is so bad, why am I usually the top player with my Nat? I open with my Stalker, get as many beacons as I can before being destroyed, hopefully take out a Fury in the process which is my favorite thing to do, then bring out that big B!#ch and rake in the silver. The best part is seeing my team mates that are obviously disturbed by my presence (by bumping into me or shooting me) and then at the end of the game seeing my name above theirs!!! HA HA! Because it's trash. To put things into perspective, one time for the hell of it I jumped into a Zenit's rockets as it fired them at a close range with my Griffin. They each had the accumulative damage of a KWK shot. Bear in mind they were hitting me head-on, not exploding next to me. So without that exact circumstance, you're doing jack-squat in terms of damage. |
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Post by BLYTHE on Jan 5, 2017 22:26:25 GMT -5
Hmm, if Natasha is so bad, why am I usually the top player with my Nat? I open with my Stalker, get as many beacons as I can before being destroyed, hopefully take out a Fury in the process which is my favorite thing to do, then bring out that big B!#ch and rake in the silver. The best part is seeing my team mates that are obviously disturbed by my presence (by bumping into me or shooting me) and then at the end of the game seeing my name above theirs!!! HA HA! Because it's trash. To put things into perspective, one time for the hell of it I jumped into a Zenit's rockets as it fired them at a close range with my Griffin. They each had the accumulative damage of a KWK shot. Bear in mind they were hitting me head-on, not exploding next to me. So without that exact circumstance, you're doing jack-squat in terms of damage. Dammit Goatking, now I gotta try jumping into those projectile popcorn. Tell the truth, was it ... utter bliss? |
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Post by BLYTHE on Jan 5, 2017 22:28:07 GMT -5
Hmm, if Natasha is so bad, why am I usually the top player with my Nat? I open with my Stalker, get as many beacons as I can before being destroyed, hopefully take out a Fury in the process which is my favorite thing to do, then bring out that big B!#ch and rake in the silver. The best part is seeing my team mates that are obviously disturbed by my presence (by bumping into me or shooting me) and then at the end of the game seeing my name above theirs!!! HA HA! Wait a sec. You have a Fury THEN bring out the Tasha?! |
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Post by goatking219 on Jan 5, 2017 22:30:14 GMT -5
Because it's trash. To put things into perspective, one time for the hell of it I jumped into a Zenit's rockets as it fired them at a close range with my Griffin. They each had the accumulative damage of a KWK shot. Bear in mind they were hitting me head-on, not exploding next to me. So without that exact circumstance, you're doing jack-squat in terms of damage. Dammit Goatking, now I gotta try jumping into those projectile popcorn. Tell the true, was it ... utter bliss? It was. Until my Taran scattered his parts across the seventh dimension. |
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Post by moody on Jan 5, 2017 22:51:58 GMT -5
Hmm, if Natasha is so bad, why am I usually the top player with my Nat? I open with my Stalker, get as many beacons as I can before being destroyed, hopefully take out a Fury in the process which is my favorite thing to do, then bring out that big B!#ch and rake in the silver. The best part is seeing my team mates that are obviously disturbed by my presence (by bumping into me or shooting me) and then at the end of the game seeing my name above theirs!!! HA HA! Wait a sec. You have a Fury THEN bring out the Tasha?! Take out I presume means take out an opposition fury with the stalker.... |
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5000 gold is not something easily obtained, especially for new players.
