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Post by Russel on May 17, 2017 1:34:30 GMT -5
This is what happens when you don't have Plasma. It gets worse against an Ancilot. I swapped out the Molot on 'Doc for a Taran - Myself, Taran/Griffon, Gareth and a Gekko/Golem - took down 'Doc .. had to come at it with a Zeus Cannon. This Mecha setup was chewing us to pieces. Downed 6 of us before falling. I think it may have a chance against an "Ancilot." My double Thunder Carnage taken down two Potheads during same battle. Ancile goes down in less than three shots from 400~500m, then I rush in NOT SHOOTING, Thunder fully recharges and I finish him off, fast.
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Post by Firebeard on May 17, 2017 2:00:19 GMT -5
I swapped out the Molot on 'Doc for a Taran - Myself, Taran/Griffon, Gareth and a Gekko/Golem - took down 'Doc .. had to come at it with a Zeus Cannon. This Mecha setup was chewing us to pieces. Downed 6 of us before falling. I think it may have a chance against an "Ancilot." My double Thunder Carnage taken down two Potheads during same battle. Ancile goes down in less than three shots from 400~500m, then I rush in NOT SHOOTING, Thunder fully recharges and I finish him off, fast. I'm not arguing with you, but this was an exceptionally strong Mecha. It took four of us -
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Post by Russel on May 17, 2017 2:11:40 GMT -5
My double Thunder Carnage taken down two Potheads during same battle. Ancile goes down in less than three shots from 400~500m, then I rush in NOT SHOOTING, Thunder fully recharges and I finish him off, fast. I'm not arguing with you, but this was an exceptionally strong Mecha. It took four of us - Well, I feel your pain. I once was added into Expert1 vs Expert1 squad battle in, I think, 9:29 time, so there's apparently were no other players to fill in the gap. And with my ~lvl7 equipment\bots I got Griffins and Cossack evaporized in a matter of seconds, literally. I never saw what killed the Cossack, it was BAM! BIG FLASH! Select your bot. So I got into Leo and barely managed to scrape off two kills, mostly finishing off smoking-sparking bots. But I couldn't help but noticed that the tactics in Expert was waaaaay better than in Gold where I was struggling back then. So all in all, I learned that: - It is not 1-on-1 match. You need to help your teammate finish off enemy quicker - You want to be aware of situation at all times. If you are being "shot by surprise" - then you are doing something wrong - Do not try to "fight and die with honor". If you can - run away. Usually it is the faster bot who also is the weaker. - Use your weapons at maximum possible range; except for bullets\thunder - If enemy in tougher bot is capping the beacon and looking away from you - let him cap. Chances are, he will move away and you can re-cap beacon without taking unnecessary damage - TAKE DAMAGE when you must. For example, I am now shielding blue Fury with my Leo at all times when I can. This way he gets his reload while I'm taking damage, and then we both can defeat enemy. It is not a solo game. Stuff like this. It can be learned only by playing against better players; and if you play against better players - you are usually loosing a battle. That's what I mean by "you must learn from your defeats"
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Post by Russel on May 17, 2017 2:14:50 GMT -5
Sorry, I wandered off topic :-D
Most probably it was not the setup, but actual weapon\bot level. I am experimenting with my hangar now, and all my bots are at lvl 2~5; well, except for lvl9 Thunder Carnage. And I am able to take down Gareth, Galahad, Leo, Griffin and all medium bots with this. It is not because I am that good, or because setup is exceptional, but just because where I play now equipment is usually at lvl6~7
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Post by arakos on May 17, 2017 4:30:33 GMT -5
Having trouble finding a decent setup that works, Haven't got the most extensive armoury in the world (due to being fairly rookie) but I really want to make use of the Leo. Any suggestions? Thanks For me ... i use triple Gekko and a treb. why? it has decent health and can hit you from across the map. Yamantu/canyon/Springfield... you can rack up a lot of damage in these maps...silver ?hot stuff? bot! consider it your long range bot. After gekko's buff this build might be a thing...
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Post by =Rogue-13= on May 17, 2017 5:00:10 GMT -5
For me ... i use triple Gekko and a treb. why? it has decent health and can hit you from across the map. Yamantu/canyon/Springfield... you can rack up a lot of damage in these maps...silver ?hot stuff? bot! consider it your long range bot. After gekko's buff this build might be a thing... I'd agree, 60% extra damage. i used to run 4 gekko Patton... great damage... just needed more Health from the Leo... also the treb is great for getting kills!
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Post by Russel on May 17, 2017 5:21:54 GMT -5
After gekko's buff this build might be a thing... I'd agree, 60% extra damage. i used to run 4 gekko Patton... great damage... just needed more Health from the Leo... also the treb is great for getting kills! Sorry for being nerd, but it's 20% extra damage :-D Now all your gekkos are doing 2142 + 2142 + 2142 per shot at max level, and after the buff it would be: 2142*1.2 + 2142*1.2 + 2142*1.2 = 1.2* (2142 + 2142 +2142)
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Post by CharismaticReaper99 on May 17, 2017 5:33:05 GMT -5
I tried something new, it worked pretty well, try these.
Thunder, 1x Aphid, 2x Piñatas. Zeus, 3x Magnums Thunder, 2x Punishers, 1 Pin.
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Post by Russel on May 17, 2017 6:01:29 GMT -5
Once again, if you are using Aphid - do NOT PUT IT ON THE TOP SLOT. It explodes on launch, occasionally and harmlessly for you and for the enemy.
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Post by =Rogue-13= on May 17, 2017 6:32:16 GMT -5
I'd agree, 60% extra damage. i used to run 4 gekko Patton... great damage... just needed more Health from the Leo... also the treb is great for getting kills! Sorry for being nerd, but it's 20% extra damage :-D Now all your gekkos are doing 2142 + 2142 + 2142 per shot at max level, and after the buff it would be: 2142*1.2 + 2142*1.2 + 2142*1.2 = 1.2* (2142 + 2142 +2142) I love nerds I married one! each gekko has increased damage by 20% I have 3 of them... that makes a total of 60% increase in total damage... doesn't it?
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Post by Chicken Adobo on May 17, 2017 6:36:55 GMT -5
I use a Thunder/Magnum Leo on my 4 slot hangar. It is currently upgrading to level 9 while its Thunder/Magnum weapons were all level 7. Based on my experience with my Leo on the Gold II League, it can destroy a Plasma Griffin and Gareths on a one-on-one situation. It also has taken down Thunder/Zeus Carnage on some occasions. With regards to Thunder Carnages, I distance my Leo for about 300-350 meters to lessen the damage of its Thunders while my bot consistently fire its Magnums and Thunder (That weakens its built in Ancile). However, my Leo has a tough time with Galahads & Rhinos although it will weaken these shielded bots.
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Post by Russel on May 17, 2017 6:47:58 GMT -5
Sorry for being nerd, but it's 20% extra damage :-D Now all your gekkos are doing 2142 + 2142 + 2142 per shot at max level, and after the buff it would be: 2142*1.2 + 2142*1.2 + 2142*1.2 = 1.2* (2142 + 2142 +2142) I love nerds I married one! each gekko has increased damage by 20% I have 3 of them... that makes a total of 60% increase in total damage... doesn't it? Good to hear that, my wife made same decision several years ago :-D Basically, you can't add up percentage, it "works" only on one item it is being applied to. Think like that, you earn, say, 1 million dollars per month, and your partner too. So you got promoted and partner also got promoted. Your salary goes up +100%, and his (hers?), too. So, you were at: Your 1mil + partner's 1mil, thus total income is 2M After promotion: Your 2mil + partner's 2mil, thus making income 4M Now, both of you got +100% increase in payrate, right? So, you might think that your family income got +100 *2 = +200% increase? But actually you were at 2M, and got to 4M, and basically 2M plus 100% is 2+2 making it 4M Percentage is a multiplier, so you can't really add it up. It's like: 2*(3+3) = 2*3+2*3 so you do not mix multiply (percentage) and add operations
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89sekhmet89
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Post by 89sekhmet89 on May 17, 2017 13:49:30 GMT -5
However, what he said about the top aphid often exploding on launch hasn't ever happened to my thunder aphid leo - though perhaps it's a bug in iOS or something that doesn't affect me. Well, thanks God we got YouTube, right? Watch explosions at the moment of the launch, and notice that my HP remains the same. It is Aphid exploding on launch. I managed to get about 3 occasions on video for you guys! I thought you meant it blows up when you deploy the leo and disappears from your bot - similar to losing weapons due to incoming damage. I still haven't experienced what you're showing, which seems more like the aphid is... idk, broken and not firing, except that isn't a thing afaik and certainly shouldn't be happening when the button still lights up. Are you on Android or iOS and have you submitted a bug report? I assume you've updated your app and everything. Anyway, my point to OP was not to assume that (s)he would have this problem - I don't, and I assume that the other people I frequently encounter running thunder aphid Leos have also escaped this issue. So for someone to never try equipping an aphid in the top slot based on your experience would be a bit of an overreaction. Hopefully any who do and also have the same issue will submit a bug report so that Pix will be alerted. Edit: I see you are on iOS.
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Post by Russel on May 17, 2017 14:16:37 GMT -5
Well, thanks God we got YouTube, right? ;) Watch explosions at the moment of the launch, and notice that my HP remains the same. It is Aphid exploding on launch. I managed to get about 3 occasions on video for you guys! I thought you meant it blows up when you deploy the leo and disappears from your bot - similar to losing weapons due to incoming damage. I still haven't experienced what you're showing, which seems more like the aphid is... idk, broken and not firing, except that isn't a thing afaik and certainly shouldn't be happening when the button still lights up. Are you on Android or iOS and have you submitted a bug report? I assume you've updated your app and everything. Anyway, my point to OP was not to assume that (s)he would have this problem - I don't, and I assume that the other people I frequently encounter running thunder aphid Leos have also escaped this issue. So for someone to never try equipping an aphid in the top slot based on your experience would be a bit of an overreaction. Hopefully any who do and also have the same issue will submit a bug report so that Pix will be alerted. Edit: I see you are on iOS. Yep, iOS, and we are not allowed on iOS to use old app, so latest release. It also happening to my friend, who is on iOS. Another idea is Thunder, because we both were running Thunder-Aphid build. Maybe Aphids are hitting Thunder on launch. Not every shot is faulty; I would say in 20-30% of shots. So if you might, please try running Thunder Aphid build and tell me the result. It is not game breaker by any mean, but VERY annoying when is happening in a critical situation :(
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Post by Russel on May 17, 2017 14:18:36 GMT -5
Oh, and one more thing - I thought at first that it is some guy shooting at me the same moment I launch missiles. Pretty hard to spot if you don't know what to look for.
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89sekhmet89
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Post by 89sekhmet89 on May 17, 2017 14:49:09 GMT -5
I thought you meant it blows up when you deploy the leo and disappears from your bot - similar to losing weapons due to incoming damage. I still haven't experienced what you're showing, which seems more like the aphid is... idk, broken and not firing, except that isn't a thing afaik and certainly shouldn't be happening when the button still lights up. Are you on Android or iOS and have you submitted a bug report? I assume you've updated your app and everything. Anyway, my point to OP was not to assume that (s)he would have this problem - I don't, and I assume that the other people I frequently encounter running thunder aphid Leos have also escaped this issue. So for someone to never try equipping an aphid in the top slot based on your experience would be a bit of an overreaction. Hopefully any who do and also have the same issue will submit a bug report so that Pix will be alerted. Edit: I see you are on iOS. Yep, iOS, and we are not allowed on iOS to use old app, so latest release. It also happening to my friend, who is on iOS. Another idea is Thunder, because we both were running Thunder-Aphid build. Maybe Aphids are hitting Thunder on launch. Not every shot is faulty; I would say in 20-30% of shots. So if you might, please try running Thunder Aphid build and tell me the result. It is not game breaker by any mean, but VERY annoying when is happening in a critical situation I do run a thunder + 3 aphid build - have done for a while. However, I am on Android. If aphids didn't cost au, I'd install on my iPod touch just so I could submit a bug report to help you out - maybe you should make a post about this and see if other iOS players can help? Edit: I'll keep a lookout just in case I've missed it and thought it was plasma fire or something... but usually keep a watchful eye on my aphids because it's easy to shoot them in a bad way so that they crash into barriers - so I think I would have noticed.
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Post by Russel on May 17, 2017 15:55:00 GMT -5
Yep, iOS, and we are not allowed on iOS to use old app, so latest release. It also happening to my friend, who is on iOS. Another idea is Thunder, because we both were running Thunder-Aphid build. Maybe Aphids are hitting Thunder on launch. Not every shot is faulty; I would say in 20-30% of shots. So if you might, please try running Thunder Aphid build and tell me the result. It is not game breaker by any mean, but VERY annoying when is happening in a critical situation :( I do run a thunder + 3 aphid build - have done for a while. However, I am on Android. If aphids didn't cost au, I'd install on my iPod touch just so I could submit a bug report to help you out - maybe you should make a post about this and see if other iOS players can help? Edit: I'll keep a lookout just in case I've missed it and thought it was plasma fire or something... but usually keep a watchful eye on my aphids because it's easy to shoot them in a bad way so that they crash into barriers - so I think I would have noticed. Thank you for your help! I have reported many things to Pixx, but in-game reporting is just no use. All I get is "we are very busy, but your opinion is very important, so blah-blah and yada-yada" We actually tried contacting them for kind of business cooperation, and could get a hold only through very old email from Russian social network site (yes, they were pretty interested in proposal, but I won't tell not to jinx it :-D ) For me it seems that they are usually choose who to contact, and do not listen very much.
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Post by 89sekhmet89 on May 17, 2017 16:26:24 GMT -5
I do run a thunder + 3 aphid build - have done for a while. However, I am on Android. If aphids didn't cost au, I'd install on my iPod touch just so I could submit a bug report to help you out - maybe you should make a post about this and see if other iOS players can help? Edit: I'll keep a lookout just in case I've missed it and thought it was plasma fire or something... but usually keep a watchful eye on my aphids because it's easy to shoot them in a bad way so that they crash into barriers - so I think I would have noticed. Thank you for your help! I have reported many things to Pixx, but in-game reporting is just no use. All I get is "we are very busy, but your opinion is very important, so blah-blah and yada-yada" We actually tried contacting them for kind of business cooperation, and could get a hold only through very old email from Russian social network site (yes, they were pretty interested in proposal, but I won't tell not to jinx it :-D ) For me it seems that they are usually choose who to contact, and do not listen very much. Yeah, I figured they wouldn't be much help - I think large numbers of people have to report bugs to get attention in games. Hope it gets fixed sometime, anyway.
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Post by Russel on May 17, 2017 16:29:54 GMT -5
Thank you for your help! I have reported many things to Pixx, but in-game reporting is just no use. All I get is "we are very busy, but your opinion is very important, so blah-blah and yada-yada" We actually tried contacting them for kind of business cooperation, and could get a hold only through very old email from Russian social network site (yes, they were pretty interested in proposal, but I won't tell not to jinx it :-D ) For me it seems that they are usually choose who to contact, and do not listen very much. Yeah, I figured they wouldn't be much help - I think large numbers of people have to report bugs to get attention in games. Hope it gets fixed sometime, anyway. :) Yeah, I hope so. First time I noticed this on February testserver, so it's a long-living bug :( And with your help I think we can rule out if it's OS-specific or no. I can tell you for sure that it has happened on PowerPlant and Yamantau, so you might wanna check those maps first.
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Post by 89sekhmet89 on May 17, 2017 17:03:32 GMT -5
Yeah, I figured they wouldn't be much help - I think large numbers of people have to report bugs to get attention in games. Hope it gets fixed sometime, anyway. Yeah, I hope so. First time I noticed this on February testserver, so it's a long-living bug And with your help I think we can rule out if it's OS-specific or no. I can tell you for sure that it has happened on PowerPlant and Yamantau, so you might wanna check those maps first. Looks like there is a thread on this. Strangely, it seems to be happening to both iOS and Android players.
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Post by Russel on May 17, 2017 17:22:16 GMT -5
Yeah, I hope so. First time I noticed this on February testserver, so it's a long-living bug :( And with your help I think we can rule out if it's OS-specific or no. I can tell you for sure that it has happened on PowerPlant and Yamantau, so you might wanna check those maps first. Looks like there is a thread on this. Strangely, it seems to be happening to both iOS and Android players. Thank you for finding the thread! I've posted a video there. Hopefully getting this on video helps Pixx fix it faster (I believe in that....... ....NOT :-D )
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Post by =Rogue-13= on May 17, 2017 23:32:08 GMT -5
I love nerds I married one! each gekko has increased damage by 20% I have 3 of them... that makes a total of 60% increase in total damage... doesn't it? Good to hear that, my wife made same decision several years ago :-D Basically, you can't add up percentage, it "works" only on one item it is being applied to. Think like that, you earn, say, 1 million dollars per month, and your partner too. So you got promoted and partner also got promoted. Your salary goes up +100%, and his (hers?), too. So, you were at: Your 1mil + partner's 1mil, thus total income is 2M After promotion: Your 2mil + partner's 2mil, thus making income 4M Now, both of you got +100% increase in payrate, right? So, you might think that your family income got +100 *2 = +200% increase? But actually you were at 2M, and got to 4M, and basically 2M plus 100% is 2+2 making it 4M Percentage is a multiplier, so you can't really add it up. It's like: 2*(3+3) = 2*3+2*3 so you do not mix multiply (percentage) and add operations All hail the nerd! thanks for the lesson, I never knew that!
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Post by Russel on May 18, 2017 0:13:34 GMT -5
Good to hear that, my wife made same decision several years ago :-D Basically, you can't add up percentage, it "works" only on one item it is being applied to. Think like that, you earn, say, 1 million dollars per month, and your partner too. So you got promoted and partner also got promoted. Your salary goes up +100%, and his (hers?), too. So, you were at: Your 1mil + partner's 1mil, thus total income is 2M After promotion: Your 2mil + partner's 2mil, thus making income 4M Now, both of you got +100% increase in payrate, right? So, you might think that your family income got +100 *2 = +200% increase? But actually you were at 2M, and got to 4M, and basically 2M plus 100% is 2+2 making it 4M Percentage is a multiplier, so you can't really add it up. It's like: 2*(3+3) = 2*3+2*3 so you do not mix multiply (percentage) and add operations All hail the nerd! thanks for the lesson, I never knew that! You are welcome! Feel free to ask :)
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Post by worzord0 on May 18, 2017 18:14:05 GMT -5
Ok... here is an incredible set-up. Tried and tested... 3 Punsihers and an ANCILE. This makes Leo incredibly versatile and should always be played first as your choice robot... unless u got some GOLD BEASTS or good WP choices. His speed is great for a large robot, he has decent to high HP, his ANCILE makes him begged for as a Support to any robot. The 3 punishers don't appear devasting, nor are they at a first glance. He can get to a much needed beavon in a timiley way better than some others... are as good. His Ancile really helps here... or hIS HP. WHERE HE GOES- he uses this ANCILE SHIELD to protect other beasts and poses a decent distraction. Get in with some BEASTLY SUPPORT.. and he is very valuable Or Go in alone and stay medium range to beg them to make the first move... That should give u a bit of time to shoot off some of your punishers to tenderize them. When they do come in, you can engage or run. This makes him unpredictable and even if your caught and overmatched.. you have eaten up some decent distraction time and tenderized the enemy a bit. Or Thirdly, you can hit and run from afar and jse your ANCILE if needed to protect from rainign missles or other gunfire. Dodging behind a building or hill now and then to let your Ancile replenish. I use this LEO over my LANCELOT at the moment (i only got one Lancelot.. go figure lol)... but really as a cost for a team robot like this... he is a machine!!!!! Punishers are ongoing and that makes them a great distraction as you switch from one garget to another... and after they get going they really add up. I havent named this configuration yet but i am always getting 1-3 in the ratings. I play my Leo, then after the Beastly Lancelot comes out and wreaks havoc. Enjoy... try it.... and see!
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Post by worzord0 on May 18, 2017 18:16:00 GMT -5
Ok... here is an incredible set-up. Tried and tested... 3 Punsihers and an ANCILE. This makes Leo incredibly versatile and should always be played first as your choice robot... unless u got some GOLD BEASTS or good WP choices. His speed is great for a large robot, he has decent to high HP, his ANCILE makes him begged for as a Support to any robot. The 3 punishers don't appear devasting, nor are they at a first glance. He can get to a much needed beavon in a timiley way better than some others... are as good. His Ancile really helps here... or hIS HP. WHERE HE GOES- he uses this ANCILE SHIELD to protect other beasts and poses a decent distraction. Get in with some BEASTLY SUPPORT.. and he is very valuable Or Go in alone and stay medium range to beg them to make the first move... That should give u a bit of time to shoot off some of your punishers to tenderize them. When they do come in, you can engage or run. This makes him unpredictable and even if your caught and overmatched.. you have eaten up some decent distraction time and tenderized the enemy a bit. Or Thirdly, you can hit and run from afar and jse your ANCILE if needed to protect from rainign missles or other gunfire. Dodging behind a building or hill now and then to let your Ancile replenish. I use this LEO over my LANCELOT at the moment (i only got one Lancelot.. go figure lol)... but really as a cost for a team robot like this... he is a machine!!!!! Punishers are ongoing and that makes them a great distraction as you switch from one garget to another... and after they get going they really add up. I havent named this configuration yet but i am always getting 1-3 in the ratings. I play my Leo, then after the Beastly Lancelot comes out and wreaks havoc. Enjoy... try it.... and see!
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Post by Insane Demon on May 18, 2017 18:26:24 GMT -5
I hope I never use that ancile. Shields aren't for a player like me... although I'm 1500 wsp away from getting a Carnage with a built-in ancile.
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Coyote109
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Post by Coyote109 on Oct 22, 2018 23:57:42 GMT -5
Go with a thunder for the heavy with a pinata next to it and two punishers. You will most likely be the biggest target because the red team wants to rack up damage points. Attack fellow heavy bots and ignore light bots. If you like Leo, you can later change light weapons to Magnums (when you reach lvl 20). I'd also recommend to upgrade the bot as much as you can (optimal lvl 9) to reach maximum speed (since it is its main weakness to reach Thunder effective range). Nahhhhhh, Avenger Punisher is way better.
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Post by xteen on Oct 23, 2018 0:28:05 GMT -5
I started using exodus and pinnatas. It does deal tons of damage but at the same time everyone wants to attack me for getting dmg.
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Post by go red on Oct 23, 2018 1:33:25 GMT -5
Necro? BTW I am using Flux Gekko Leo and having a lot of fun.
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Post by schrotter on Oct 24, 2018 0:59:13 GMT -5
Totally necro! Try halo, 2x gust, avenger.
Root & rip, baby!
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