Zenit/Noricum Natasha in good and bad

+ for some, at least it isn't a mag-gep and "clubber" ?
+ it's fun to fight under the rockets' red glare and leaves pretty smoke trails in the sky....scores aesthetic points
+ when you make it to the red spawn site with the arty nat camping back in your spawn.....if the screen is rockin', don't come knockin' (for gold)
+ attracts red bots like a moth to a flame - easy meat

- you just know their next bot is a Patton with 4 noricums
- followed by a ecu Cossack
- and then a Leo with a thunder, gekko, ecu, and crv....all bases covered in one bot

Cons: Everything

Pros: There are none

Pro:
I once saw a Gepard with three Noricums and it made me laugh
I've been killed by Noricums a few times, never a zenit strangely. So Noricums aren't pure bad...
Novice players will try and kill Noricums so they are a distraction
They are able to hit things behind cover from a long distance, sometimes it can make particularly stubborn campers move
I won a bunch of Noricums (and anciles) in the last event, so I've got that going for me I guess

You just don't! Yesterday I saw a Thunder/Aphid Nashi make it to central on Yama. Capped the beacon and fell.

Really....are you joking (I'm hoping you are)?  If anyone actually reads the pluses and decides those are great reasons to run an arty Nat, then they deserve their fate.  All the pluses are not positive at all....I think even a new player could figure that out.  And if they can't figure out the positives are really negatives, then the negatives hopefully will convince them that this combination is a bad choice.

I agree that the ineffective indirect fire like zeniths and noricums really don't do much for the game, but it is not just about beacons.  To obtain and control beacons, you have to kill/deter red bots or else beacon management will not result in a win.....one of the best ways is to have superior firepower or inflicted damage per second/shot.  

Mortars/artillery in the real world are a key enabler on the battlefield with indirect fire....I suppose zeniths/noricums were planned to be the equivalents.  The problem is that using the zenith/noricums as they are now are like using 18th century mortars in 21st century warfare....it can work once in a blue moon but mostly a nuisance or joke vs a real weapon.

Cheers!

Noricums and Zenits fail to produce enough damage to actually sway games. So they don't just fail to do much, but they also don't kill/deter. It's literally impossible to kill/deter *without* causing enough damage to sway games! By your own description they fail to exert "superior firepower or inflicted damage."

In the real world, mortars and artillery aren't enablers, but used to deny the enemy access to specific areas. They are actually VERY high-damage and large area of effect, but are also relatively predictable and fragile. They're also used not just beyond line-of-sight but beyond-area-of-operations weapons, and so aren't even close to being capable of reasonably being modeled in War Robots. Fundamentally, War Robots isn't even a battlefield game, it's an arena fighting game.

So again, the problem with the long range indirect artillery in this game is that it doesn't fit the game.



Fixed it for you.

From some usage, anyone with half a brain would be able to tell that zenits and noricom are so bad and don't deal much damage, even a kwk is better. People who continually and earnestly use them are brain dead 「slow」 zombies.

Not so much in silver though, I know trebs and kwks are used in gold.