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Post by Jeb on Nov 20, 2024 9:25:26 GMT -5
Not that bad.
It does remove the options to experiment and play around with modules, yes. But in practice, so far, the options aren't that different from what I was running all the time on the bots I have.
Bot power and flexibility is still centralized in your choices of pilots, skills, and drones.
And with careful management of whatever the currency is called, I've got two "maxed out" hangars, meaning I only maxed out the setups I'd actually want to use.
No perceivable difference yet in gameplay.
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Post by Endobot on Nov 20, 2024 11:02:06 GMT -5
I don`t like how it`s far too restrictive on what modules you can put on which bots and the fact that you can`t swap them around between bots anymore. It`s going to be a lot harder and cost a lot in future to level them as we get new bots and all the free modules were used up long ago. And I don`t think we got anywhere near enough of the new modules in compensation if you want to max all the bots that you usually use just for the usual games, - your main hangar, a 2nd hangar for extermination, a beacon runner to swap in for the daily beacon tasks. And that`s before any extra bots that you might want to run just now and again. Also, I`m hesitant to use the modules to max anything yet because I just know that as soon as I do there`ll be a discount or LeaderBoard soon as I`ve used them all up, so just running stuff with the pretty much minimum needed at the moment.
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Post by BB on Nov 20, 2024 13:21:20 GMT -5
Fair enough, I agree with some of your points, but if flexibility was a 10 before it’s now at a 6 or so IMO
some of my favorite builds of all time have been erased due to the new restrictions.
my list so far:
My swirly chucker Muromess with 4 maxed onslaught reactors is done. I became a mofo with that build too.
Rocket Strider with 3 Immunes is done, once you know you know
my Rogs have all lost their one active module, so no more yoinking Loki, Crisis, and all those wheely boys with my beloved Quantum Radar mod, the body count must be in the hundreds over the last couple years
not sure about my jump Pursuer yet, but I’m not too optimistic
I know, most of you laugh at my old gear, but you’re all boring meta slaves so your opinions don’t count 😛
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Post by 0megaman on Nov 20, 2024 14:12:14 GMT -5
I know, most of you laugh at my old gear, but you’re all boring meta slaves so your opinions don’t count 😛
Heh, I know what ya mean. The hangar I gave my Son is nothing special, but it was interesting, and with the right module combo, still effective against a reasonable section of the latest meta nonsense. You could get a certain balance back by the right module combos, i.e. still put up a good fight in some scenarios. Thats what Pigsonic really wanted to get rid of though, completely hamstring normally-solid older bots/titans, so they cant have truly effective capabilities compared to the latest OP BS. Now they have limits in place for those bots, they are stuck where they are permanently. 'Upgrade' paths completely capped.
In the past, even if Pigsonic nerfed a given bot/weapon, in many cases you could work-around and/or bypass it with various module combos... that can no longer happen, you are stuck exactly where they want you to be stuck. Sadly, Pigsonic will also be able to further silently nerf any of them via intel, and since they are known for quietly manipulating such things, is assures the latest meta will never be properly challenged by older stuff.
My Son had lost interest a while ago, but wanted to keep it 'just in case'. After a half-match yesterday, and having the Kitsune get wiped out in a situation that would have NOT happened if his module combo was still in place, he told me I can delete the game now if I wanted. I did, its done and uninstalled now (yay, storage space reclaimed).
I am really surprised my.games/pigsonic hasnt drawn the attention of some AG somewhere, a lot of what Pigsonic does in this game seems akin to racketeering under US law, IMHO, and would fit definitions found in the RICO statute.
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Post by gus169 on Nov 20, 2024 20:12:11 GMT -5
I've said it before. None of this effects my gaming.
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Post by Eradicator1 on Nov 20, 2024 20:29:28 GMT -5
Seems kinda cool with new type modules, but not being able to swap between bots is bunk. Plus bots like Rog that had an active module now has none. PS was a great get outta jail free card that is now gone on it. But they do give us free modules, so there is that. I only did a couple so far, so the jury is still out a little bit.
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Post by botgamer3 on Nov 20, 2024 21:18:26 GMT -5
Still a money grab/ripoff. Less customizable. Messed up my Hellburner build for sure.
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Post by milty72 on Nov 21, 2024 1:25:31 GMT -5
It doesn't effect my play. But it's really 「fluffernutter」ing 「dookie」.
Limited flexibility.
I leveled up bots so I could unlock slots and then had to unlock, level and unlock them to get them back to near where they were.
Did i mention that i think it's 「dookie」.
It's just you know. 「dookie」!
Take it back to no mods. No restoring health except if that is your pilot skill or your bot specialty.
Plus it's 「dookie」.
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Post by >^\}VULTURE{/^< on Nov 21, 2024 3:48:25 GMT -5
Still a money grab/ripoff. Less customizable. Messed up my Hellburner build for sure. Mine too but I found a new combo for it...it's still good but plays way different. Some bots a fully dead, no work arounds, no changes of play style or team roles, just dead period! I would use those bots for faction play, certain leaderboards, task or just plain old fun... they can't even do that now. For example, try using your KID now...erm, after you lvl it and waste the precious new commods on it AGAIN!  My KID used to fly across the board to roast up all the new meta crapola & I would giggle & dance a little happy dance with joy in my heart....it just goes *POOF!* now.  |
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Post by Jeb on Nov 21, 2024 17:48:29 GMT -5
So here's a question. If you've got a maxed out something or other that's Tier 1 or 2 (e.g. Kid, Rog, Gareth)...would you ever run them again? Or is it worth selling them now to get some silver back and put it towards more viable bots?
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Post by Eradicator1 on Nov 21, 2024 18:41:47 GMT -5
So here's a question. If you've got a maxed out something or other that's Tier 1 or 2 (e.g. Kid, Rog, Gareth)...would you ever run them again? Or is it worth selling them now to get some silver back and put it towards more viable bots? I still use my Ghost Rog to grab beacons. But not having PS to get myself out of a jam is tough. |
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Post by gus169 on Nov 21, 2024 20:07:11 GMT -5
So here's a question. If you've got a maxed out something or other that's Tier 1 or 2 (e.g. Kid, Rog, Gareth)...would you ever run them again? Or is it worth selling them now to get some silver back and put it towards more viable bots? I'm still running the Kid. I never had very good titan modules, so I'm not really seeing much difference. It's never dominated the new titan breeds, but it stands tall and farts fire. big bottoms. how could I leave this behind? |
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Post by christmasexpress on Nov 21, 2024 21:06:48 GMT -5
Not that bad. It does remove the options to experiment and play around with modules, yes. But in practice, so far, the options aren't that different from what I was running all the time on the bots I have. Bot power and flexibility is still centralized in your choices of pilots, skills, and drones. And with careful management of whatever the currency is called, I've got two "maxed out" hangars, meaning I only maxed out the setups I'd actually want to use. No perceivable difference yet in gameplay. Hover can’t hear your words over its horrific and gruesome death. I used to be able to cap 13 beacons on my hazard hover only mk2, on champs, against people piloting Dux and other RIDICULOUS mechs that have more that one ability. Now I can’t even walk to home beacon I perceive a difference in gameplay |
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Post by BB on Nov 22, 2024 7:57:26 GMT -5
So here's a question. If you've got a maxed out something or other that's Tier 1 or 2 (e.g. Kid, Rog, Gareth)...would you ever run them again? Or is it worth selling them now to get some silver back and put it towards more viable bots?  I don’t understand the question |
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Post by spectre729 on Nov 22, 2024 10:54:06 GMT -5
really awful when i(havent spend modules on specializations) are playing against those with specializations
im counting on the discount days
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Post by christmasexpress on Nov 22, 2024 11:08:36 GMT -5
So here's a question. If you've got a maxed out something or other that's Tier 1 or 2 (e.g. Kid, Rog, Gareth)...would you ever run them again? Or is it worth selling them now to get some silver back and put it towards more viable bots? I don’t understand the question Would you run a non-gold robot on your active league hangar yes or no? If no; would you sell it for silver, to use on updating gold bots? Are you being facetious? Never mind just saw it’s you breakfast. I’m sorry for what happened |
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Post by dinnerplain on Nov 22, 2024 11:22:13 GMT -5
Not that bad. It does remove the options to experiment and play around with modules, yes. But in practice, so far, the options aren't that different from what I was running all the time on the bots I have. Bot power and flexibility is still centralized in your choices of pilots, skills, and drones.
Are you a shill for Pixonic?
None of the module combinations that I used are possible with the new system. None. Not 1.
Flexibiility is totally gone with modules.
But what I really want to know is, how many free modules did Pixonic promise you for that post?
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Post by christmasexpress on Nov 22, 2024 11:24:50 GMT -5
Not that bad. It does remove the options to experiment and play around with modules, yes. But in practice, so far, the options aren't that different from what I was running all the time on the bots I have. Bot power and flexibility is still centralized in your choices of pilots, skills, and drones.
Are you a shill for Pixonic?
None of the module combinations that I used are possible with the new system. None. Not 1.
Flexibiility is totally gone with modules.
But what I really want to know is, how many free modules did Pixonic promise you for that post?
There is a “specialization” video by a certain Pilot. He is directly profiting and making money to highlight how screwed we all are. I used to despise Manni for being a living cartoon but he is truly the only honest ex-pix shill. Now I only watch manni. Everyone else is boring, a liar, a stooge, or eye candy. Not for me |
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Post by dinnerplain on Nov 22, 2024 11:28:15 GMT -5
In the past, even if Pigsonic nerfed a given bot/weapon, in many cases you could work-around and/or bypass it with various module combos... that can no longer happen, you are stuck exactly where they want you to be stuck. Sadly, Pigsonic will also be able to further silently nerf any of them via intel, and since they are known for quietly manipulating such things, is assures the latest meta will never be properly challenged by older stuff. This. It takes away a lot of game control that players had. A lot. I refuse to support Pixonic in any way after this rework. Not a US company, not a household name. |
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Post by dinnerplain on Nov 22, 2024 11:34:44 GMT -5
So here's a question. If you've got a maxed out something or other that's Tier 1 or 2 (e.g. Kid, Rog, Gareth)...would you ever run them again? Or is it worth selling them now to get some silver back and put it towards more viable bots?
I simply wouldn't play again.
I wouldn't have minded if pixonic replaced the old module system with a new one that had different currency and a controlled mechanism that let you pick any module.
But taking away module capability from robots/titans that had them (and thereby making the older robots more vulnerable) just sticks of horse 「dookie」.
Pixonic have totally ruined what remnants of game balance there was left.
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Post by 0megaman on Nov 22, 2024 12:14:35 GMT -5
Not a US company, not a household name.
Doesnt matter, since they sell through Apple, Google, etc, they are subject to US law within the US. The Terms of Service Agreement doesnt protect them against illegal activity either, or that create end-user conditions contrary consumer protection statutes. IF some AG wanted to go after them, they definitely could.
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Post by Jeb on Nov 22, 2024 15:43:27 GMT -5
Not that bad. It does remove the options to experiment and play around with modules, yes. But in practice, so far, the options aren't that different from what I was running all the time on the bots I have. Bot power and flexibility is still centralized in your choices of pilots, skills, and drones.
Are you a shill for Pixonic?
None of the module combinations that I used are possible with the new system. None. Not 1.
Flexibiility is totally gone with modules.
But what I really want to know is, how many free modules did Pixonic promise you for that post?
Are you aware you're the main reason I barely post here anymore? Not that I wanted to make that an issue, but if you're going to 「fluffernutter」ing accuse me of a being a shill, then you're going to know that you are the one who ruined this forum. |
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Post by >^\}VULTURE{/^< on Nov 22, 2024 16:47:22 GMT -5
Let's keep it civil everyone & stay on topic... Let's not have Olie lock a subject. Everyone is butt hurt in one way or another...some more than others. Not everyone will have the same experiences or opinions, let's show some respect for the topic.
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Post by milty72 on Nov 22, 2024 20:22:29 GMT -5
Let's keep it civil everyone & stay on topic... Let's not have Olie lock a subject. Everyone is butt hurt in one way or another...some more than others. Not everyone will have the same experiences or opinions, let's show some respect for the topic. Nah. Let's push this to 11. How long has it been since a thread got locked? Lets bring back the glory days.  |
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Post by gus169 on Nov 22, 2024 22:58:32 GMT -5
Not that bad. It does remove the options to experiment and play around with modules, yes. But in practice, so far, the options aren't that different from what I was running all the time on the bots I have. Bot power and flexibility is still centralized in your choices of pilots, skills, and drones.
Are you a shill for Pixonic?
None of the module combinations that I used are possible with the new system. None. Not 1.
Flexibiility is totally gone with modules.
But what I really want to know is, how many free modules did Pixonic promise you for that post?
yeah, there's that "shill" word again. why are you still here? |
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Post by satanonwheels on Nov 23, 2024 0:14:48 GMT -5
It takes money to shoot off an ICBM. Even with no nukes attached. Send Russia more money NOW!
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Post by tabbylion on Nov 23, 2024 1:25:19 GMT -5
I have not activated any modules on my bots or titans except for Shell because I couldn’t complete Stage 4 & 5 of Extermination. I assume there’s a fair percentage of players that haven’t committed yet and are waiting for a module leaderboard like me.
Match making is still rigged, it still gives me under 50% win rate which you can say hasn’t changed much.
The main difference is that when I lose, I get stomped much worse and lower damage = less silver and is harder to get points for leaderboard.
What seems to be worse is that lockdown, freeze and suppression is now much more prevalent and makes the gameplay very boring when players run those builds.
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Post by gus169 on Nov 23, 2024 1:57:50 GMT -5
It takes money to shoot off an ICBM. Even with no nukes attached. Send Russia more money NOW! and there's the politics. |
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Post by horde1313 on Nov 23, 2024 3:12:35 GMT -5
Ok..you write that the new formula of modules does not change the gameplay etc.but you failed to notice one thing...Pixonic took our money again...I for the previous modules spent a lot of real money to buy and upgrade them and now I was robbed of it. And now Pixonic is making me build modules for each robot from scratch and pay all over again..We should report the matter to some appropriate service or stop paying them..this is another time they are taking away our purchased stuff..I know because I have been playing this game for 6 years
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Post by johnny2cool on Nov 23, 2024 8:47:54 GMT -5
Are you a shill for Pixonic?
None of the module combinations that I used are possible with the new system. None. Not 1.
Flexibiility is totally gone with modules.
But what I really want to know is, how many free modules did Pixonic promise you for that post?
Are you aware you're the main reason I barely post here anymore? Not that I wanted to make that an issue, but if you're going to 「fluffernutter」ing accuse me of a being a shill, then you're going to know that you are the one who ruined this forum. Hmm. |
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My KID used to fly across the board to roast up all the new meta crapola & I would giggle & dance a little happy dance with joy in my heart....it just goes *POOF!* now. 
