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Post by linearblade on Nov 3, 2023 5:46:17 GMT -5
You can easily gut any robot by nerfing its speed. All it took was a speed nerf for Fafnir fans to completely abandon it after all. It's kind of slow anyway, so if they do nerf the speed that could be bad. The bot will get shield and ability nerf first. The weapons will be neutered like the hwanje and rust missiles etc as well |
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Post by xxlarrythebarryx on Nov 3, 2023 17:46:37 GMT -5
At least it has a soft counter (Shieldbreaker). Whales will simply phase shift or use unstable conduit to negate shield break anyway I guess. Harpy and Siren with bendies are already enjoying a mini resurgence. I'm guessing there will be a few more and many bots running shield breaker from now. Problem is, the whales will no doubt pair it up with the new 600m weapons and delete most of the competition before it gets close enough.  What do u guys think? 🤔 |
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Nov 3, 2023 18:53:04 GMT -5
Harpy and Siren with bendies are already enjoying a mini resurgence. What do u guys think? 🤔 I always love to bash pixonic morality and they love to pretend the game is balanced. They will sell "us" whatever they think we will buy. That looks like a half decent deal as an Ophion/Dagon hunter for someone who doesn't already have one. |
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Post by T34 on Nov 4, 2023 1:20:46 GMT -5
I am not sure harpy is a counter. As usual there isn’t a real counter.
Having said that, nether with magnetars, paralysis and 3v3 does well against ophion. It may do reasonably against Dagon as well. Issue is that the nether got nerfed so bad that it is squishy. Makes sense why it got nerfed hard as the original version would have been a true counter.
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Post by linearblade on Nov 4, 2023 1:59:49 GMT -5
At least it has a soft counter (Shieldbreaker). Whales will simply phase shift or use unstable conduit to negate shield break anyway I guess. Harpy and Siren with bendies are already enjoying a mini resurgence. I'm guessing there will be a few more and many bots running shield breaker from now. Problem is, the whales will no doubt pair it up with the new 600m weapons and delete most of the competition before it gets close enough. What do u guys think? 🤔 A jaeger with shield breaker ends it almost instantaneously . Pretty much anything can kill it, which is why is nigh invisible in legends league. Cobra , goat and nooblets all have extreme resistance in almost every circumstance due to built in muppet features. So either this update intended to produce a useless bot, or the nerf shall be hard indeed |
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Post by linearblade on Nov 4, 2023 2:02:49 GMT -5
I am not sure harpy is a counter. As usual there isn’t a real counter. Having said that, nether with magnetars, paralysis and 3v3 does well against ophion. It may do reasonably against Dagon as well. Issue is that the nether got nerfed so bad that it is squishy. Makes sense why it got nerfed hard as the original version would have been a true counter. I don’t have a lot of experience fighting thrm as they are incredibly rare, but in the few cases I did, they were almost insta killed. Lots of shield isn’t the same as unlimited shield. Both bots fry up noobs, but one fails miserably against experienced players |
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Post by T34 on Nov 4, 2023 5:52:55 GMT -5
I am not sure harpy is a counter. As usual there isn’t a real counter. Having said that, nether with magnetars, paralysis and 3v3 does well against ophion. It may do reasonably against Dagon as well. Issue is that the nether got nerfed so bad that it is squishy. Makes sense why it got nerfed hard as the original version would have been a true counter. I don’t have a lot of experience fighting thrm as they are incredibly rare, but in the few cases I did, they were almost insta killed. Lots of shield isn’t the same as unlimited shield. Both bots fry up noobs, but one fails miserably against experienced players They sure aren’t plentiful in legend league hangers. Either very pricey or ocho and ophion are better. Some were running 5 ochos a day or two after release. Don’t know. Let’s see what happens. |
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Post by linearblade on Nov 5, 2023 7:22:36 GMT -5
I don’t have a lot of experience fighting thrm as they are incredibly rare, but in the few cases I did, they were almost insta killed. Lots of shield isn’t the same as unlimited shield. Both bots fry up noobs, but one fails miserably against experienced players They sure aren’t plentiful in legend league hangers. Either very pricey or ocho and ophion are better. Some were running 5 ochos a day or two after release. Don’t know. Let’s see what happens. There is a simple reason they aren’t plentiful. 6 light is functionally equivalent to 3 heavy and probably around 4 medium. Simply put, they don't possess anymore firepower than a goat / spectre etc. and they don’t have a god mode |
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Post by krebby on Nov 5, 2023 10:06:18 GMT -5
Cobra , goat and nooblets all have extreme resistance in almost every circumstance due to built in muppet features. So either this update intended to produce a useless bot, or the nerf shall be hard indeedBoth could be true. |
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Nov 5, 2023 16:08:15 GMT -5
Dagon is nowhere near as strong as Ochokochi. I still drop Ocho first every game. My LE one has 734,000 health when it spawns. There is no need for Dagon lol
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Post by shadethefluffmech on Nov 6, 2023 2:36:31 GMT -5
I’ve seen a grand total of 2 In champion league. Both of which I deleted instantly with a jaeger and shield breaker. While this floating trash can could be fun normally, however I fail to see the point of a robot that is not invincible or has auto kill. A fellow of the hunt i see Glad im not the last to use him |
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Post by 079 on Nov 6, 2023 15:49:07 GMT -5
I am not sure harpy is a counter. As usual there isn’t a real counter. Having said that, nether with magnetars, paralysis and 3v3 does well against ophion. It may do reasonably against Dagon as well. Issue is that the nether got nerfed so bad that it is squishy. Makes sense why it got nerfed hard as the original version would have been a true counter. Whenever I am playing the Time Drops and squad with Champion League players (taking me to Champion League), my Harpy with Scorcher/Incinerator, Yang Lee, and Lock-Down Ammo kills full health Ophion. Maybe I am just lucky with my matchups, but I find Harpy and the Blast effect in general to be devastating to Ophions. It is probably because Blast bypasses resistance. |
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Post by krebby on Nov 7, 2023 11:15:46 GMT -5
I am not sure harpy is a counter. As usual there isn’t a real counter. Having said that, nether with magnetars, paralysis and 3v3 does well against ophion. It may do reasonably against Dagon as well. Issue is that the nether got nerfed so bad that it is squishy. Makes sense why it got nerfed hard as the original version would have been a true counter. Whenever I am playing the Time Drops and squad with Champion League players (taking me to Champion League), my Harpy with Scorcher/Incinerator, Yang Lee, and Lock-Down Ammo kills full health Ophion. Maybe I am just lucky with my matchups, but I find Harpy and the Blast effect in general to be devastating to Ophions. It is probably because Blast bypasses resistance. I think it is fair to describe mid-range focused bots with lots of firepower and mobility (like the Harpy) as generally effective counters to Ophions. The main problem for bots like the Harpy is that you really can't push beacons alone, and can easily be bullied away from them. Bots like that work best when your team is ahead on Beacons, but not well when you're behind. And it can be frustrating watching a teammate sit in their Harpy for most of the game when you team is falling behind on the beacon bar. |
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