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Post by Koalabear on Oct 23, 2023 13:00:04 GMT -5
Ok, I'm finally starting to run into red Hemlocks more and more. Most of the AI Hemlocks are not maxed, thank goodness, but come on, EMP just by looking at me??
I had originally thought of replacing KS with Redeemer because I was trying to use mechs that can counter Hemlock but TBH, for one, my Guardian isn't countering much. Sure, I can unlock my team mates but the Hemlock can use its ability from well out of my Guardian's range so it's been hard countering it. Hmm...maybe I'll take out my Guardian when my Redeemer is maxed. It's gonna take like 5k acoins to max it but maybe I'll try to hold off to collect as many blueprints as possible (note - the game is doing the usual BS where blueprints for the Redeemer have stopped dropping). Anyway my point is that I got zapped while in KS and was able to dash into cover and recover while my Guardian was a sitting duck and died without getting a shot off.
Sometimes I wish I went the Orion route but it's too late now I guess...unless someone can give me a compelling reason to abandon Redeemer and start work on Orion?
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Post by S1E1 on Oct 23, 2023 14:26:19 GMT -5
I don't feel like Orion would give you any real advantage against Hemlock that RG16s or EMR16s don't. It just kills stuff quickly, it doesn't prevent you from being hit with the mark or help after you are.
I've been running my maxed Redeemer and my R4 Eclipse and they're both effective. Being able to cover ground and then deal if multiple Hemlocks spawn, etc, is definitely useful. Panther with the fence also seems like a major counter. FYI - while maxed Redeemer nullifies the Hemlock ability, you have to wait until it takes effect. If you hit Backtrack in the 1.5 seconds before you're frozen, the mark stays with you and then goes into effect when you rematerialize. Not sure if that is a bug or permanent feature, but I tested it a couple times and it definitely occurs.
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Post by nocluevok on Oct 23, 2023 17:35:51 GMT -5
Be annoying back and ditch your bot. 😉
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Post by OU812? on Oct 23, 2023 19:58:19 GMT -5
Very annoying and their ability sometimes lasts what seems like an eternity during a match.
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Post by Koalabear on Oct 24, 2023 8:15:14 GMT -5
Yeah, 7 seconds is WAY too long...most reds will kill you in 1 sec!
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Post by S1E1 on Oct 24, 2023 10:17:07 GMT -5
So it seems like you can get double hit with Daze. This went down quickly and only happened to me once but I ran into multiple Hemlocks. And it seemed like the first one tagged me with Daze, I got shot and it turned into Freeze, but then I got hit by another Daze as well. And so right as I unfreeze, the second Daze goes into effect and I freeze up again.
This will be annoying but also a tip for playing Hemlock once it goes on sale. Mechs already frozen by Surges, etc can be then Dazed as well. Nasty.
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Post by Koalabear on Oct 24, 2023 11:37:51 GMT -5
So it seems like you can get double hit with Daze. This went down quickly and only happened to me once but I ran into multiple Hemlocks. And it seemed like the first one tagged me with Daze, I got shot and it turned into Freeze, but then I got hit by another Daze as well. And so right as I unfreeze, the second Daze goes into effect and I freeze up again. This will be annoying but also a tip for playing Hemlock once it goes on sale. Mechs already frozen by Surges, etc can be then Dazed as well. Nasty. Yeah, I got hit like this too! |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Oct 24, 2023 13:21:34 GMT -5
I just love playing games where I can’t do anything. The biggest reason I quit War Robots was because I spent most of the games frozen. I haven’t seen any of these monstrosities in MA yet at my level, but I suppose it’s only a matter of time.
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Post by Koalabear on Oct 25, 2023 8:54:30 GMT -5
Well, I can confirm that in an Eclipse, if you get hit with the Daze, you can hit your Ability and it shrugs off the Daze and you're fine. The Hemlock is an easy target after that if it's in your sights.
Now, I can't wait until I can max my Redeemer! I'm now thinking that I might retire my Guardian since most Daze comes from across the map or way out of my System Crash range so it's not like I can help my team mates. But...we'll see.
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