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Post by nocluevok on May 22, 2023 9:19:44 GMT -5
Can't watch the video since it says it's "private."
So... will I still be able to use all the bots and weapons I currently have, or are they mothballed until I reach their tier?
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Post by salvia on May 22, 2023 9:57:59 GMT -5
Can't watch the video since it says it's "private." So... will I still be able to use all the bots and weapons I currently have, or are they mothballed until I reach their tier? Here's another version : And yes you'll still be able to use the items currently in your hangar. For this reason, just today I finally pulled the trigger and acquired Surge + DL12 on both of my accounts. I didn't want to wait any longer and risk letting them trapped in the new progress path. |
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Post by dukeofadvil on May 26, 2023 16:22:58 GMT -5
Any word on when this is going to drop? I figured it would have been by the middle of May.
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Post by salvia on May 26, 2023 17:09:04 GMT -5
Any word on when this is going to drop? I figured it would have been by the middle of May. There's speculation that it could drop at the end of the current crate events, i.e. in roughly a week from now. At any rate, the deployment must be imminent given that multiple players have created new accounts which features this new progress path. |
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Post by OU812? on Jun 2, 2023 8:59:29 GMT -5
New info on the new progress pass:
Some of the cost seem steep, but players may be getting rank 6 content, albeit for some low EN content. I predict future adjustments based on player base reactions. Scape does point out that what he’s seeing may change with the updated progress pass release.
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Post by BigBear on Jun 2, 2023 10:27:25 GMT -5
I'm kinda looking forward to the new progress patch,I don't mind grinding and paying a little when I have a clear target in sight.Making new stuff buy only was a stupid idea but obvious why they did it.
I'm hoping it will even out MM a bit more and make battles more fun rather than one sided as most of them are these days.
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Post by salvia on Jun 2, 2023 14:11:28 GMT -5
I predict future adjustments based on player base reactions. Scape does point out that what he’s seeing may change with the updated progress pass release. That's pretty much guaranteed. Plarium is incapable of doing proper calibration during the development phase, they systematically rely on live feedback / players' rants. |
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Post by OU812? on Jun 2, 2023 16:10:39 GMT -5
I predict future adjustments based on player base reactions. Scape does point out that what he’s seeing may change with the updated progress pass release. That's pretty much guaranteed. Plarium is incapable of doing proper calibration during the development phase, they systematically rely on live feedback / players' rants. It does seem that way, doesn’t it? And the offers I expect to see, but don’t, make me wonder about their business sense. I’m never gonna shell out $20+ for three implants. But I’d probably hand Plarium $5-$6 for the implants I want and do that two to three times a month for my favorite weapons. Yeah, I know, the logic is silly, but that’s how people behave. That’s why micro transactions are a thing. |
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Post by Koalabear on Jun 2, 2023 22:38:31 GMT -5
What really drives me crazy is the push to get the new stuff by making "events" that can ONLY be completed with getting whatever new gear they're peddling. Take the current Awards Derby...it's all Eclipse tasks plus crates that can only be bought.
Despite my resolve to not support Plarium anymore, I still will shell out for the "sale" on A-coins and slowly build up my cache. I'm hoping that with all the crap in my inventory, by the time the new Progress Path is released, the Eclipse will be available to me for Acoins and hopefully I'll have enough to get it. I'm shelving my plans on maxing Gatecrasher and Bastion and instead, will focus on Eclipse and Redeemer. (I think) Or maybe Bastion and Eclipse...but that would really pump up my SP...hmmmm...
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Post by nocluevok on Jun 6, 2023 18:00:07 GMT -5
Crunched my numbers and overall I'm good. Admittedly I am a grinder who also does spend some, including new weapons and mechs, which because they have been real $$ only for so long, means I now have a lot of gear that I got at 3 Stars to begin with, that f2p won't have. Still, as I was looking through the list I also kind of noticed all the gear I had won from events like SG8 and VRPG14, and even if I didn't ever use them, the stars added on. I am only short by 2 Stars on the final tier and that is about to change as I am taking up my Bastion a couple ranks during this playoff event. I made it 30 stars into Tier 8, but I don't see how many stars it takes to unlock it. I'm assuming it is at least 36+. |
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Post by S1E1 on Jun 6, 2023 20:17:57 GMT -5
Crunched my numbers and overall I'm good. Admittedly I am a grinder who also does spend some, including new weapons and mechs, which because they have been real $$ only for so long, means I now have a lot of gear that I got at 3 Stars to begin with, that f2p won't have. Still, as I was looking through the list I also kind of noticed all the gear I had won from events like SG8 and VRPG14, and even if I didn't ever use them, the stars added on. I am only short by 2 Stars on the final tier and that is about to change as I am taking up my Bastion a couple ranks during this playoff event. I made it 30 stars into Tier 8, but I don't see how many stars it takes to unlock it. I'm assuming it is at least 36+. It takes 36 stars of T7 gear to unlock Tier 8. I imagine if they add a Tier 9, it'll also unlock at 36 stars. |
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Post by nocluevok on Jun 7, 2023 9:14:49 GMT -5
Does a maxed weapon or bot count as 6 or 7 stars?
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Post by S1E1 on Jun 7, 2023 15:45:05 GMT -5
Does a maxed weapon or bot count as 6 or 7 stars? Six. You don't get any credit for maxing gear. |
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Post by S1E1 on Jun 8, 2023 13:50:34 GMT -5
So it turns out, anytime you buy a mech in the new Gear Hub system (new official name apparently) you automatically get a free weapon equipped with it. Scape did a great video on Tier 1 that really lays it all out (also sounds like new players automatically get a Lancer for free just for doing the tutorial). It looks like he's going to be doing a whole series laying it all out tier by tier. But while it isn't as apparent in the Tier 1 video, some further comments he wrote show the limits of the system. "The new system of giving weapons for free follows a general formula: - Give a mech weapons equal to one star below their natural rank
- Choose from the lowest possible grade/energy set possible to fill this slot
So like for the case of Redeemer who starts at 16 energy, they pick a weapon set worth 12 energy from tier 1. Some mechs get weapons from tier 2 like arachnos gets plasma cannon 4s. But it doesn't really go beyond these. So this new system is really only helpful in tier 1 and 2 ultimately." So what I took from this is: 1) The system only really gives you extra stars in Tier 1. Starting at T2, the weapons you get will be from a lower tier, so those stars won't count towards unlocking the next tier. 2) Except for T1 & T2, you basically don't have to bother planning ahead on what weapons not to buy, because it will all be beginning tier junk. 3) Regarding free weapons, if say a Plasma 2 comes as 2 star when you buy them outright, then you'd only get it at 1 star when it's bundled free with a mech.
4) This means you'll definitely be collecting a lot blueprints you don't want, for gear you won't use. However those items will come in handy for cheaply completing some of the Level Up/Rank Up tasks for various events. And let's face it, trying to efficient on blueprint collection is basically hopeless at this point anyway. On the plus side, you won't get stupid popup ads in perpetuity for garbage 2EN weapons you never collected, lol.
5) Like always, this system is designed to seem generous to new players to get them into the game, but in actuality doesn't give them much. It's not actually bad in any way, it's just way more appearance over substance.
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Post by salvia on Jun 8, 2023 14:43:57 GMT -5
Thanks for the recap S1E1. That's indeed nice for the newbies, even though in the grand scheme of things they're still stuffed since these free weapons won't possibly compensate for the loss of access to Panther and Killshot. Still, I'm eager to see with which free weapons, mechs in the highest tiers will come. It could be pretty comical 🤡 |
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Jul 14, 2023 17:56:13 GMT -5
Did this thing die on the vine.. I havent played much lately but see it's still not deployed?
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Post by S1E1 on Jul 14, 2023 19:32:25 GMT -5
Did this thing die on the vine.. I havent played much lately but see it's still not deployed? No, they're still testing it with new accounts. They are definitely still rolling it out, but it seems to be taking longer than most people assumed it would. |
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 16, 2023 19:49:22 GMT -5
New players shouldn't rank up anything with this system. The "gear heirarchy" update made each rarity of mech definitively worse than the next level up in terms of stats.
Ranking up anything below 8en is a sink.
The 3* mechs are basically made of paper compared to the 4/5* counterparts.
T5 is going to be the wall to cough up cash or high the bricks. They're probably waiting for new accounts to hit the wall to see how much whaling occurs at that wall.
EM8, Minigun8, Dl8 etc, with Redeemer being the only mech not made of paper.
They're also bombarding new accounts with purple/gold teir gear at R2, the non-initiated having no clue how much upgrades cost.
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Aug 31, 2023 12:56:20 GMT -5
Well I landed in Tier 4... funny thing is I need less stars to unlock 6 than 5 and only 10 stars for all of tier 8..
Tier 7 is a black hole for me
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Post by Redfiend on Aug 31, 2023 15:31:43 GMT -5
Well I landed in Tier 4... funny thing is I need less stars to unlock 6 than 5 and only 10 stars for all of tier 8.. Tier 7 is a black hole for me Yea. It's a mess for older accounts. It really hasn't improved anything either. Is your MM acting like you're in T4, or does your SP just make it not matter? |
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Post by salvia on Aug 31, 2023 16:25:37 GMT -5
Tier 4 too, for both mechs and weapons.
EM 6 costs 7500 A-coins, what a gigantic joke 🤡🤡🤡
The only good news for me is that I *finally* have access to Stalker.
I might start playing again just to start upgrading it.
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Post by Redfiend on Aug 31, 2023 17:22:57 GMT -5
Tier 4 too, for both mechs and weapons. EM 6 costs 7500 A-coins, what a gigantic joke 🤡🤡🤡 The only good news for me is that I *finally* have access to Stalker. I might start playing again just to start upgrading it. Aside disk launcher 8, grav beam 10, and Brickhouse, all legendaries are 7250-9375 coins. I'm in T7, scorpius is RM $99.99. Can't see what Onyx and Gatecrasher are at. Coin prices were bad when most of us could get 3-5k coins a month by grinding. Current rates have stratified to War Robots levels. The way it's set up, the AI punishes early game players for not upgrading lower teir gear, so buying anything less than legendary grade just intensifies the meat grinder feeling. They still need to do something about the AI pilot distribution. There's little in way of reasonable goals without a a $50/monthly gaming budget, just for this 🙄 |
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Post by Redfiend on Aug 31, 2023 19:02:21 GMT -5
Update: Incomplete chapter missions for long time players ARE NOT A BUG.
If you do not own everything in a teir, Plarium intends for you to purchase the remaining items to complete the missions, spawn the required items in battle, and rank up the listed teir items.
The task is ONLY BUGGED if you have zero way to complete it.
If the task says purchase X teir item, and the only ones left are Real Money, or 6 en legendaries, they expect you to purchase them.
"Rank up 4 TIII mechs/weapons" means unless you have every T3 item at 6.7, the mission expects you to rank up 4 MORE times. Same thing for every other quantative mission, including paragon achievements for a single silver crate in ch.1
For. Four. Digit. Amounts.of.Credits.
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Post by OU812? on Aug 31, 2023 21:02:05 GMT -5
Holy disappointment, Batman. Sheesh. I had lowered my expectations but this beyond words.
And
Holy dilution, Robin. I’m getting tons of BPs for added content I have no interest in and haven’t acquired. Good grief, how am I to get the coveted BPs I want now?
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Post by Redfiend on Aug 31, 2023 21:45:45 GMT -5
Holy disappointment, Batman. Sheesh. I had lowered my expectations but this beyond words. And Holy dilution, Robin. I’m getting tons of BPs for added content I have no interest in and haven’t acquired. Good grief, how am I to get the coveted BPs I want now? Why, the same way you'd try a new weapon using new pilot mods, spending money 😃 |
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Sept 1, 2023 0:19:39 GMT -5
Well I landed in Tier 4... funny thing is I need less stars to unlock 6 than 5 and only 10 stars for all of tier 8.. Tier 7 is a black hole for me Yea. It's a mess for older accounts. It really hasn't improved anything either. Is your MM acting like you're in T4, or does your SP just make it not matter? Hard to tell I ran a few matches with kola and then some other higher sp players, so my solo matches after that have been AI that shoots themselves on my team. I guess the perks of sitting on 12m credits was getting to T6 only cost me like 1.2m credits and getting to T7 may cost me another 1.3m credits and anywhere from 1k-2500 acoins I'm also sitting on 600+ gold crates and 4000+ silver crates. |
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Post by Redfiend on Sept 1, 2023 9:57:34 GMT -5
Yea. It's a mess for older accounts. It really hasn't improved anything either. Is your MM acting like you're in T4, or does your SP just make it not matter? Hard to tell I ran a few matches with kola and then some other higher sp players, so my solo matches after that have been AI that shoots themselves on my team. I guess the perks of sitting on 12m credits was getting to T6 only cost me like 1.2m credits and getting to T7 may cost me another 1.3m credits and anywhere from 1k-2500 acoins I'm also sitting on 600+ gold crates and 4000+ silver crates. You'd be able to tell, if the MM hard locks to teir, the AI wouldn't be using mechs a teir above. If you're seeing Bricks, Surge, etc then it's disregarding teir. |
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Sept 1, 2023 12:57:35 GMT -5
Hard to tell I ran a few matches with kola and then some other higher sp players, so my solo matches after that have been AI that shoots themselves on my team. I guess the perks of sitting on 12m credits was getting to T6 only cost me like 1.2m credits and getting to T7 may cost me another 1.3m credits and anywhere from 1k-2500 acoins I'm also sitting on 600+ gold crates and 4000+ silver crates. You'd be able to tell, if the MM hard locks to teir, the AI wouldn't be using mechs a teir above. If you're seeing Bricks, Surge, etc then it's disregarding teir. Yea I'm getting AI that's in T7 and T8.. so.... certainly not locked into my T and below |
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Post by S1E1 on Sept 2, 2023 21:07:37 GMT -5
Update: Incomplete chapter missions for long time players ARE NOT A BUG. If you do not own everything in a teir, Plarium intends for you to purchase the remaining items to complete the missions, spawn the required items in battle, and rank up the listed teir items. The task is ONLY BUGGED if you have zero way to complete it. If the task says purchase X teir item, and the only ones left are Real Money, or 6 en legendaries, they expect you to purchase them. "Rank up 4 TIII mechs/weapons" means unless you have every T3 item at 6.7, the mission expects you to rank up 4 MORE times. Same thing for every other quantative mission, including paragon achievements for a single silver crate in ch.1 For. Four. Digit. Amounts.of.Credits. Went back and forth with support. They're saying it is a bug and the devs plan to fix it, so folks should be getting credit for completed tasks.  |
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