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Post by Wolfblood7 on May 8, 2023 9:20:40 GMT -5
The Ardent Behemoth with Hwangjes is crazy. I mean, it really feels like the test server when you can just delete an entire robot from 796m range. With the durability extender turret I can easily reach 500,000 hp with it. Its crazy fun to play. I seem to remember Oliver Kloesov saying he was going to get round to levelling it with the Ardent Hwangjes - if you did it, how did you find it? Here are the pilot skills as of now, but there will be improvements in the future once there is a pilot overdrive. Also, why is no-one running this build in Champion League? You can even brawl with it to an extent! I regularly get wrampages in it, and I would recommend levelling one if you can.
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Post by Endobot on May 8, 2023 10:01:17 GMT -5
I`ve just finished maxing and started playing the Stella Prisma Ardent Behemoth in TDMs and find it`s a lot of fun. My first ever real long range/sniper build. If I ever get another 3 Hwangjes and then get all 4 of them levelled I`d try it. At the moment it only does really well as long as the reds are far, far away.
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Post by Eradicator1 on May 8, 2023 12:33:44 GMT -5
You are an evil evil man there Wolfy. I did see one in champs the other day. Yup, it was deleting everything from far away.
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Dr.BoomWR
Destrier
Posts: 20
Karma: 57
Pilot name: Dr.BoomWR
Platform: iOS
Clan: FAST
League: Master
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Skyros
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Post by Dr.BoomWR on May 8, 2023 12:37:33 GMT -5
I think it's a really fun build for TDM, until reapers start showing up. I don't know if I would personally run it in beacon rush though but I can see why others do. I find the more snipers my team has the less players to run beacons and we lose. Then again I seem to lose a lot so it's hard to tell haha.
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Post by munkeeee on May 8, 2023 12:53:16 GMT -5
Run into a few in lower leagues. Long maps are brutal trying to creep on it.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 8, 2023 17:39:10 GMT -5
The Ardent Behemoth with Hwangjes is crazy. I mean, it really feels like the test server when you can just delete an entire robot from 796m range. With the durability extender turret I can easily reach 500,000 hp with it. Its crazy fun to play. I seem to remember Oliver Kloesov saying he was going to get round to levelling it with the Ardent Hwangjes - if you did it, how did you find it? Here are the pilot skills as of now, but there will be improvements in the future once there is a pilot overdrive. Also, why is no-one running this build in Champion League? You can even brawl with it to an extent! I regularly get wrampages in it, and I would recommend levelling one if you can. Let’s just say that I’m a one-man spawn raid from 800m. Good enough? Ooooohhhh-PEEeeee!
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Post by Taboga73 on May 9, 2023 1:58:53 GMT -5
I'm running the Ardent Behemoth with 50% Stella/50% Regular Prismas, Paralysis drone, Quantam Radar, Nuc Amp, and 2x Overdrive units. It's great for stopping/eliminating the beacon rushers on long maps and the Quantam Radar has been handy against Imugis and other stealth bots. It will also pummel the skies against stealth in later game use and freeze Ethers in less than desirable landing sites after their ability use. Of course it is not as effective in close range, but four heavy weapons can finish off a weakened Red that has managed to get near me.
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Post by TerrorStorm on May 9, 2023 3:07:29 GMT -5
I was running some Smuta on Behemouth and it was just not doing if for me. Never could get it to be impactful.
I've won a few of the Hwangje but the thought of leveling 4 of them up sounds time consuming and expensive. 4 of those lasers would be ugly.
I guess I'll wait and see if Hwanje has legs and survives the Nerf/ Buff cycle.
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Post by >^\}VULTURE{/^< on May 9, 2023 3:13:25 GMT -5
I'm running the Ardent Behemoth with 50% Stella/50% Regular Prismas, Paralysis drone, Quantam Radar, Nuc Amp, and 2x Overdrive units. It's great for stopping/eliminating the beacon rushers on long maps and the Quantam Radar has been handy against Imugis and other stealth bots. It will also pummel the skies against stealth in later game use and freeze Ethers in less than desirable landing sites after their ability use. Of course it is not as effective in close range, but four heavy weapons can finish off a weakened Red that has managed to get near me. I run Basil Lapatte with 3 x overdrive usually, it can pwn most if it dies I couldn't care any less, there are better bots to move on the map, I just use that build for suppression. EDIT: I don't use a Nuke Amp because I don't intend to snipe all match. 3 Overdrive ramps up damage faster than building stacks on Nuke Amp & the auto 10% from Basil is already there.
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Post by >^\}VULTURE{/^< on May 9, 2023 3:20:27 GMT -5
I was running some Smuta on Behemouth and it was just not doing if for me. Never could get it to be impactful. I've won a few of the Hwangje but the thought of leveling 4 of them up sounds time consuming and expensive. 4 of those lasers would be ugly. I guess I'll wait and see if Hwanje has legs and survives the Nerf/ Buff cycle. Tried that build & hated it myself... Smuta 500 range just isn't good enough for the Behem after the speed nerf. If they made a speed Legendary Pilot for Behem then I would say it is viable.
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Post by Taboga73 on May 9, 2023 3:37:03 GMT -5
I'm running the Ardent Behemoth with 50% Stella/50% Regular Prismas, Paralysis drone, Quantam Radar, Nuc Amp, and 2x Overdrive units. It's great for stopping/eliminating the beacon rushers on long maps and the Quantam Radar has been handy against Imugis and other stealth bots. It will also pummel the skies against stealth in later game use and freeze Ethers in less than desirable landing sites after their ability use. Of course it is not as effective in close range, but four heavy weapons can finish off a weakened Red that has managed to get near me. I run Basil Lapatte with 3 x overdrive usually, it can pwn most if it dies I couldn't care any less, there are better bots to move on the map, I just use that build for suppression. EDIT: I don't use a Nuke Amp because I don't intend to snipe all match. 3 Overdrive ramps up damage faster than building stacks on Nuke Amp & the auto 10% from Basil is already there. I use the Nuc Amp as it was extra maxed module I had unused. Once I have another Overdrive, it'll replace it. Behemoth is a short use bot and covering your teammates as they make their way to beacons via very quick bots is welcomed. I don't have any bots that can keep up and so the Prisma's reach is my speed.
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Post by TerrorStorm on May 9, 2023 22:49:31 GMT -5
Here is Wolfblood7 Video.
Weapons are extremely strong.
Back to my original point this seems so OP it is bound for a NERF. I'm for sure not pouring any silver into these weapons for a while. See if they stand the test of time.
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Post by >^\}VULTURE{/^< on May 10, 2023 5:34:31 GMT -5
Everyone is using those weapons on everything, bound for a nerf for sure!
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Post by Wolfblood7 on May 10, 2023 6:04:21 GMT -5
TerrorStorm thanks for linking that. More thoughts on the build: - If you run this, you get a lot of hate. I've just had a game where an STF player came after me with half his hangar, but I was deep in spawn so my team kept killing him before he got to me lol - Prisma Behemoths are very good at countering it. If someone drops one, they outrange me by 400m and there is literally nothing I can do. - I need to get better at knowing when to ditch it, because there have been a few games where we have lost because I was camping. However, it is very hard to ditch because this build is so fun to play...
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Post by munkeeee on May 10, 2023 9:07:38 GMT -5
i have found myself targeting these things more and more recently. I give myself that challenge, and set about how to creep over to them and take them out. Boy does that piss them off, because everytime after that they come after me for what I did.
and i dont mind that, BRING IT!!
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Post by slugpug on May 10, 2023 12:45:21 GMT -5
I just finally got a Mars and a Fainter thru the last event, at this rate I’ll have that setup in around 3 years or so!
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Post by Somebody’s Mom on May 11, 2023 1:37:52 GMT -5
Tell us your “that guy” without,,, ok, I get it. But I already know that I don’t like you. Vaporizing me on Springfield, thanks… I was almost across, timed your previous shots, waited until right before you emptied your magazine, Took a small hit from across the pond that I wasn’t expecting, (well, it’s always expected) then you saw me . You gave me the old Zapperiny Blast, turns out I didn’t make the last 50m. Jerky Pants
Just kidding obviously but the sniping game has changed. I haven’t truly sniped (although I am notoriously mid) since yeah, Yamantau and Trebuchets. But back, then there was no DMark, MK2, Pilot Abilities, Healing, it was more Chess oriented. Because of the long reload times, and you couldn’t just smoke anybody in one shot. Took good use of cover, corner shooting, and patience instead of the more Ka-Blammo style that we see today…
But you’re right, that build is filthy,! Great job!
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Post by Wolfblood7 on May 12, 2023 5:49:53 GMT -5
Tell us your “that guy” without,,, ok, I get it. But I already know that I don’t like you. Vaporizing me on Springfield, thanks… I was almost across, timed your previous shots, waited until right before you emptied your magazine, Took a small hit from across the pond that I wasn’t expecting, (well, it’s always expected) then you saw me . You gave me the old Zapperiny Blast, turns out I didn’t make the last 50m. Jerky Pants Just kidding obviously but the sniping game has changed. I haven’t truly sniped (although I am notoriously mid) since yeah, Yamantau and Trebuchets. But back, then there was no DMark, MK2, Pilot Abilities, Healing, it was more Chess oriented. Because of the long reload times, and you couldn’t just smoke anybody in one shot. Took good use of cover, corner shooting, and patience instead of the more Ka-Blammo style that we see today… But you’re right, that build is filthy,! Great job! The only sniper builds I have run before this, are the Jaeger with Gauss, which was underwhelming, and the Typhon with Wasp which was insane, but the long reload time made it a problem later on. This Behemoth might be the most powerful sniper the game has seen set. Enter Crisis...
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Post by NexusBlade on May 12, 2023 20:30:28 GMT -5
I agree, here is mine lol As for modules I have 2x NA 1 RA and Advanced Repair Unit, Pilot skills are Master Gunsmith T4, Roadhog T4, Mechanic T4, Armor Expert T4, Dodger T4, Modules Expert T4, and Foolhardy Quartermaster. It's slow... but so brutal, especially once the NA's charge up this thing deletes anything that makes the deadly mistake of being in my line of sight, I've held entire teams at bay with it and got crazy damage on ranged maps. I had a funny moment when a Revenant teleported to me because I was on top of the dreadnought ship slaughtering their team and they wanted to stop me... My NA's and RA were fully charged and they blasted into me with mk3 flames... did some damage I guess... As I shredded their bot to pieces in a matter of seconds mwahahaha. Don't get me wrong... I know why people hate facing these, I know I do... I basically went: Ok 「fluffernutter」 it you all want to run it? Guess what now I am too how does it feel? lol. It is fun to watch hp bars just vanish, these weapons will get gutted eventually but for now it's an interesting build.
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Post by munkeeee on May 12, 2023 20:35:00 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong... I know why people hate facing these, I know I do... I basically went: Ok 「fluffernutter」 it you all want to run it? Guess what now I am too how does it feel? lol. It is fun to watch hp bars just vanish, these weapons will get gutted eventually but for now it's an interesting build. This was your saving grace with me sir, haha. Jk. Its always interesting for me to face other spiders. I dont mind it really, but most times I am getting hit by more than one bot as well. Like you said, fight fire with fire sir.
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Post by NexusBlade on May 12, 2023 20:51:38 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong... I know why people hate facing these, I know I do... I basically went: Ok 「fluffernutter」 it you all want to run it? Guess what now I am too how does it feel? lol. It is fun to watch hp bars just vanish, these weapons will get gutted eventually but for now it's an interesting build. This was your saving grace with me sir, haha. Jk. Its always interesting for me to face other spiders. I dont mind it really, but most times I am getting hit by more than one bot as well. Like you said, fight fire with fire sir. It's amusing when I run into other Behemoths running the same build, generally they're not running dual NA's like me so my DPS increases faster, also Foolhardy plus Advanced Repair Unit means I can usually win that fight and I have my damage stacked up for the rest of their team lol. Prisma Behemoths are trickier as they outrange me, I can win if I get within 800m but if they catch me beyond that it's usually a wrap for me... I can't blame the players who rush to take me out as I do pose a large threat if left on the battlefield, but I give them a hell of a fight Also not a sir but no worries lol
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Post by munkeeee on May 12, 2023 20:58:05 GMT -5
This was your saving grace with me sir, haha. Jk. Its always interesting for me to face other spiders. I dont mind it really, but most times I am getting hit by more than one bot as well. Like you said, fight fire with fire sir. It's amusing when I run into other Behemoths running the same build, generally they're not running dual NA's like me so my DPS increases faster, also Foolhardy plus Advanced Repair Unit means I can usually win that fight and I have my damage stacked up for the rest of their team lol. Prisma Behemoths are trickier as they outrange me, I can win if I get within 800m but if they catch me beyond that it's usually a wrap for me... I can't blame the players who rush to take me out as I do pose a large threat if left on the battlefield, but I give them a hell of a fight Also not a sir but no worries lol would maybe a maxed BU with those 2 NAs give you a bit more of an edge as well as boost with the health you think?
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Post by NexusBlade on May 12, 2023 21:07:25 GMT -5
It's amusing when I run into other Behemoths running the same build, generally they're not running dual NA's like me so my DPS increases faster, also Foolhardy plus Advanced Repair Unit means I can usually win that fight and I have my damage stacked up for the rest of their team lol. Prisma Behemoths are trickier as they outrange me, I can win if I get within 800m but if they catch me beyond that it's usually a wrap for me... I can't blame the players who rush to take me out as I do pose a large threat if left on the battlefield, but I give them a hell of a fight Also not a sir but no worries lol would maybe a maxed BU with those 2 NAs give you a bit more of an edge as well as boost with the health you think? I can test it of course but my initial instinct would be it's unlikely, The RA gives a lot of value on tankier bots when charged up and has been integral to helping the bot last longer. The other thing about this build is it builds up mothership charges fast, and this is my mothership: The Aegis is incredibly useful on it's own, combined with grey damage healing and durability extender I get a lot of extra survivability, also anti jamming support is handy against Blinders and Anglers among other things.
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Post by 079 on May 12, 2023 21:14:58 GMT -5
Prisma haters when these lasers came out and showed how much worse it gets when the damage isn’t limited by range:
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Post by NexusBlade on May 12, 2023 21:26:33 GMT -5
Prisma haters when these lasers came out and showed how much worse it gets when the damage isn’t limited by range: True lol, the fact you have such crazy dps all the way out to 800m makes these very versatile weapons, also the fact they auto track enemies means a charging Nether has no escape lol. Just for my 2 cents I think when these are nerfed it could go in a few directions, a flat damage nerf of like 20-30%, a more interesting idea would be to keep the damage the same, as they self nerf themselves the longer you fire they could make them overheat way faster, like full overheat in 6-7 seconds versus 10 seconds, or perhaps they'll make them cooldown slower... I guess we shall see.
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Post by munkeeee on May 12, 2023 21:45:41 GMT -5
prismas it is!!!
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Post by xxlarrythebarryx on May 13, 2023 13:23:42 GMT -5
I may quit the game.
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Post by Poopface on May 13, 2023 16:27:17 GMT -5
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Post by >^\}VULTURE{/^< on May 13, 2023 16:47:11 GMT -5
I actually thought these would bring more diversity to the game as they would be anti-prisma. Instead of loosing damage the closer, they would gain damage but also lose damage the more they would fire. Instead they just lose damage on extended fire. But let's be honest here... anything caught out in the open is melted before it decreases damage significantly AND THEN... Pixonic adds a cooldown Legendary Pilot before the numbers are even out.
Back to my point about SE items & Legendary Pilot before the thing even has a chance to register. Said items haven't even been out long enough for one faction or another to mod them, nor have they been out long enough for there to be a "legendary" anything.
Pix-Dix with the quick wallet clips, as soon as everyone has it, hit it with the big nix!
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Post by xxlarrythebarryx on May 13, 2023 19:38:02 GMT -5
I must stay strong💪 ty poopface ily
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