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Post by Koalabear on Apr 27, 2023 14:30:37 GMT -5
Ok, can we get some numbers and observations about squad power vs MM?
I was doing the Gatecrasher Specialization Spree this week. With my Gatecrasher equipped with JR12, my SP was about 9.8k or so. I noticed that the AI I was playing with, on both sides, were equipped with Panthers, Killshots and Guardians. Now that I've finished the spree and put my maxed KS back in and my SP went back up to 10.1k or so, I'm facing Onyx, Bastion, Surges and Brickhouses again.
Is it just me or does 10k SP seem to be the magic number? This might make me go back to my Scout mech hangar idea, but then if I run maxed Scout mechs, wouldn't my SP go back above 10k?
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Post by Danny Linguini on Apr 27, 2023 14:59:40 GMT -5
Just anecdotal observations, but I’ve seen as much as 1k in either direction from my own SP (usually higher than mine - I’m currently 2220, but only 4 slots open), though not in the same game. Seems to be the range from lowest to highest generally isn’t more than 1k. Since I’m starting over, my SP had grown rather quickly in the first week, but it’s seriously leveled off now; but during that time, especially once I got close to 2k (peanuts to you guys, I know), it seemed to stay in that range. I should mess with the hangar a bit and see if/how it fluctuates. But it’s got me wondering if the range they try to keep you within is a factor or percentage of your SP. Like, do they try to keep the highest SP no more than x% of the lowest in the matchup? And then it’s just the luck of the draw where you fall in between? Only your hairdresser knows for sure.
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Post by S1E1 on Apr 27, 2023 15:18:28 GMT -5
On endgame AI ~10K is the magic number. You can be slightly over it and still get the lower AI still but that's the general threshold.
When matched versus a human players I generally feel like the AI will be at the lower human SP's level, but I am not 100% sure of that. It could be I have only noticed the matches where the AI has changed.
Generally it does seem that MM aims to match humans with around 1K SP difference. But I have gotten some weird matches where I am at 11k and my opponent is at like 7k. Rare but recurring. Some might be that my opponent is trying to tank but some look like that is their natural hangar so idk.
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Post by Danny Linguini on May 5, 2023 15:33:40 GMT -5
New theory - your wins and losses somehow factor in to the strength of your opponents. The more I win, the higher the red humans’ SP’s go; when I start losing, which I confess I’ve done intentionally to test out the theory, reds’ SP’s go back down - sometimes WAY down. My SP right now is around 2535. If I win too many in a row, I’ve seen red SP’s as high as 3700. Go on an epic losing streak, I’ve had reds with SP’s under 1000. The trend is too constant to be a coincidence.
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Post by S1E1 on May 5, 2023 17:06:14 GMT -5
New theory - your wins and losses somehow factor in to the strength of your opponents. The more I win, the higher the red humans’ SP’s go; when I start losing, which I confess I’ve done intentionally to test out the theory, reds’ SP’s go back down - sometimes WAY down. My SP right now is around 2535. If I win too many in a row, I’ve seen red SP’s as high as 3700. Go on an epic losing streak, I’ve had reds with SP’s under 1000. The trend is too constant to be a coincidence. Yeah that's right. It can apply to opponents' SP or AI intelligence. After I grind Grandmaster I'll take a beating for a bunch of games as my AI gets totally lobotomized. It's really frustrating. If they are going to do that kind of adjustment I wish it would just be hangar strength and not AI smarts. I can handle losing to a stronger opponent. They have a better hangar and it kinda gives me a peak at where I'm headed as I upgrade my hangar. Plus it is so awesome when you beat them. But losing due AI smarts is the wrong kind of frustration. You don't realize what's going on until it's usually too late to compensate and it makes the whole game feel so dumb. Cheapens my wins too. |
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Post by reconnecting on May 6, 2023 13:23:24 GMT -5
Oh for the good old days when ai just stood together in a corner and got blasted! 😂
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