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Post by Adazahi on Apr 14, 2023 19:19:44 GMT -5
I have some 3 star carbines, dont really play MA too much but I heard there was this big rework to grades. My legendary DL's and EMR's feel way stronger, will my carbines also be good? I've had them shelved for a while.
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Post by S1E1 on Apr 14, 2023 23:12:24 GMT -5
Ummm, I think they are slight better but overall it is not much of a change.
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Post by Koalabear on Apr 15, 2023 7:36:24 GMT -5
I think they may still be good on some mechs and in some circumstances. The AI certainly uses them very well. Due to lag, I rarely know I'm being hit with them until I'm dead. I've got CB12 decently leveled and I'm planning on slapping them on my Bastion when I finally max it. But, ultimately, I'm thinking of doing Nade12 on the Bastion as I feel that at the ranges where I would engage with the Bastion, the Nade12 will kill faster than the CB12.
After the update, they do a lot of damage, especially with implant and pilot boosts, but their DPS is still way lower than say ATs at the 60m range which is max for AT and optimum for CB.
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Post by OU812? on Apr 15, 2023 9:04:55 GMT -5
I use max CB12 Panther with the max legendary assault pilot paired with legendary reload implant, epic mag and damage implants. All implants are three quarters upgraded. It’s been one of my best mechs in FFA recently.
I like them personally. KB is correct that they’re outclassed by arc torrents and definitely are by miniguns. That said, they make short work of anything lighter than heavily upgraded tanks. Anything that turns its back to you is in trouble. Using strategies like ambushing and corner shooting can be really helpful.
My guess is that you’ll want to decide if you plan to acquire mini-guns, Gravbeams, EMRs, Vrpgs and how competitive do you want your hanger. In the current meta those may be better investments if your resources are tight. I’ve failed to acquire or make use of those weapons in my hanger. I’m ‘fine’ at my ~ 8000ish SP and not willing to get on the hamster wheel that chasing a meta can feel like. I’m finding my fun where I can.
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Post by S1E1 on Apr 16, 2023 18:06:56 GMT -5
I think they may still be good on some mechs and in some circumstances. The AI certainly uses them very well. Due to lag, I rarely know I'm being hit with them until I'm dead. I've got CB12 decently leveled and I'm planning on slapping them on my Bastion when I finally max it. But, ultimately, I'm thinking of doing Nade12 on the Bastion as I feel that at the ranges where I would engage with the Bastion, the Nade12 will kill faster than the CB12. After the update, they do a lot of damage, especially with implant and pilot boosts, but their DPS is still way lower than say ATs at the 60m range which is max for AT and optimum for CB. I've been coming across Bastions sporting Carbines in FFA although not all have been CB12s. Been surprised that folks are using this combo because from what I've seen Bastion is just too slow to get kills fast enough with it. EMR12s seem to be where it is at for FFA. And GangstaJabs has said that the best combo is DL12s although I am not sure if that is for every game mode or one in particular. The close-in weapons do seem to do better for CPC and 2v2. |
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Apr 16, 2023 19:16:03 GMT -5
The things about carbs is the magazine size. With em weapons you can make a quick kill, but while reloading pending the target you can take out 2-3 bots with leveled carbs, pilot, and implants. They still seem to be very affective if used correctly on say a panther where you can make cover.
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Post by Koalabear on Apr 17, 2023 11:13:45 GMT -5
I think they may still be good on some mechs and in some circumstances. The AI certainly uses them very well. Due to lag, I rarely know I'm being hit with them until I'm dead. I've got CB12 decently leveled and I'm planning on slapping them on my Bastion when I finally max it. But, ultimately, I'm thinking of doing Nade12 on the Bastion as I feel that at the ranges where I would engage with the Bastion, the Nade12 will kill faster than the CB12. After the update, they do a lot of damage, especially with implant and pilot boosts, but their DPS is still way lower than say ATs at the 60m range which is max for AT and optimum for CB. I've been coming across Bastions sporting Carbines in FFA although not all have been CB12s. Been surprised that folks are using this combo because from what I've seen Bastion is just too slow to get kills fast enough with it. EMR12s seem to be where it is at for FFA. And GangstaJabs has said that the best combo is DL12s although I am not sure if that is for every game mode or one in particular. The close-in weapons do seem to do better for CPC and 2v2. That was my thinking about Bastion with CB12. The EMP of the Bastion is I believe the shortest of all the EMP mechs out there. I could be wrong but I think it's only like 3s or something. CBs just don't damage fast enough. CBs are more of a stand off weapon that you use to take pot shots with and then dip back into cover. Speaking of Bastion, I was thinking of maybe doing MR12 on my Bastion in the future. But then, I just watched a quick vid of Bastion with Nade12 and holy moly I think Nade12 would be better. The advantages are quick reload and single fire ability. The only problem is there is no legendary pilot yet - which is not that big a deal yet cause I'm not ready to start leveling my Bastion quite yet. |
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