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Post by spectre729 on Apr 14, 2023 14:29:20 GMT -5
as quoted directly from shredder blitz in the latest community update:
"Anybody remember death-button Spectres? We thought it might be a good idea to bring them back to the Champion league. If you just had a Shocktrain flashback, don’t worry — it will be Orkans. But they will be just as dangerous.
With ultimate editions you will be able to revive the glory of old-day builds. They will play just as their predecessors, but their stats will be adjusted to dominate the Champion league. Ultimates, being the most exclusive content in the game, will have different upgrade progression and feature unique looks with great level of detail. They will upgrade instantly, so that you can deploy them right after they become available in the game.
We’re starting with Spectre but we already have a couple other robots in mind that will look splendid in gold and black. Be sure to test this one out and tell us what you think!"
https://www.reddit.com/r/walkingwarrobots/comments/12lx2rt/community_update_87_live_show_next_week_updated/
really hope i get my hands on one...imagine being killed by orkans in 2023...
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Post by davortrogon on Apr 14, 2023 14:44:46 GMT -5
This depends on what gets counted as an ultimate weapon; Imagine an unnerfed Ao Jun in a few years, and a broken Fafnir.
Eventually everything will be old.
The problem with this is that they will have a powerful old, and they always have powerful new stuff, so most players with the middle equipment will be shut out by older stuff too, even if it's easier to get.
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Post by munkeeee on Apr 14, 2023 16:20:26 GMT -5
Maybe Iâm 「slow」, or just confused. So they are going to RE-release older bots just updated? Or is this like a new upgrade type currency instead of mk3 dorito?
Sounds nice in theory, but we all know Pix will unleash it bugged, impossible to get without $$, Uber OP, and Iâm guessing will be Pixs way of saying âwe listened to you about older bots, here ya goâ yet you gotta upgrade it all over again.
Smh
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Post by 079 on Apr 14, 2023 17:48:53 GMT -5
This looks like bad news from head to toe. Instead of just buffing old equipment to be viable, they are creating an entirely new upgrade path (which means more spending and likely a new currency). I’m sure the spenders and battle rec account owners will have a blast with it, but for those of us who live in reality, it will probably just be another meta headache. The ultra-detailed visuals of these equipment pieces could not be more of a non-factor.
This seems like Pixonic’s version of selling nostalgia to players, akin to Disney with the Star Wars sequel trilogy or live action remakes. This can be done right, but is anyone expecting Pixonic to?
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Post by Poopface on Apr 14, 2023 17:50:38 GMT -5
This looks like bad news from head to toe. Instead of just buffing old equipment to be viable, they are creating an entirely new upgrade path (which means more spending and likely a new currency). I’m sure the spenders and battle rec account owners will have a blast with it, but for those of us who live in reality, it will probably just be another meta headache. The ultra-detailed visuals of these equipment pieces could not be more of a non-factor. This seems like Pixonic’s version of selling nostalgia to players, akin to Disney with the Star Wars sequel trilogy or live action remakes. This can be done right, but is anyone expecting Pixonic to? Here’s the thing: I think the new Star Wars largely sucks. Pix won’t do any better. Like Disney, Pix rushes content because to them quantity >> quality and visuals >> content depth. |
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Post by tabbylion on Apr 15, 2023 2:17:33 GMT -5
This looks like bad news from head to toe. Instead of just buffing old equipment to be viable, they are creating an entirely new upgrade path (which means more spending and likely a new currency). I’m sure the spenders and battle rec account owners will have a blast with it, but for those of us who live in reality, it will probably just be another meta headache. The ultra-detailed visuals of these equipment pieces could not be more of a non-factor. This seems like Pixonic’s version of selling nostalgia to players, akin to Disney with the Star Wars sequel trilogy or live action remakes. This can be done right, but is anyone expecting Pixonic to? Here’s the thing: I think the new Star Wars largely sucks. Pix won’t do any better. Like Disney, Pix rushes content because to them quantity >> quality and visuals >> content depth. That Star Wars comment is a complete understatement 🤮 |
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Post by gus169 on Apr 15, 2023 7:26:14 GMT -5
"imagine being killed by orkans in 2023"? chuckles. form an orderly queue and I'll be with you shortly  |
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Post by munkeeee on Apr 15, 2023 9:57:46 GMT -5
Only thing I’m interested in that would bring the “old” into the modern era with its “modernization” would be the Raijin. One mod slot, sheeeesh, come on pix.
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Post by Somebody’s Mom on Apr 15, 2023 12:19:07 GMT -5
Only thing I’m interested in that would bring the “old” into the modern era with its “modernization” would be the Raijin. One mod slot, sheeeesh, come on pix. Funny, you say that, I haven’t seen that guy around here in a while, that Raijin dude. Lo and behold I was going through my inventory last night and just had to stop on that guy for a minute. I was actually kind of overwhelmed by the “ what if?” You were right, a decent pilot, even halfway leveled, with a decent drone, and another slot (or, ahem, cough, cough) or even two more slots, for its rightful place in the fabled Three Slot Bot Club, and it really could be the fortress that it was sold to be… Shame |
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Post by munkeeee on Apr 15, 2023 12:42:48 GMT -5
Only thing I’m interested in that would bring the “old” into the modern era with its “modernization” would be the Raijin. One mod slot, sheeeesh, come on pix. Funny, you say that, I haven’t seen that guy around here in a while, that Raijin dude. Lo and behold I was going through my inventory last night and just had to stop on that guy for a minute. I was actually kind of overwhelmed by the “ what if?” You were right, a decent pilot, even halfway leveled, with a decent drone, and another slot (or, ahem, cough, cough) or even two more slots, for its rightful place in the fabled Three Slot Bot Club, and it really could be the fortress that it was sold to be… Shame EXACTLY! It was my first mk3 bot ever, used it to kill titans, well the original 3 at least. Back in the day when over half a mil health was still a WOW factor. Slow, bulky love bug of a monster, 30% damage increase in bastion mode, USED TO climb….. ahhh the good ol days. Mine is in hangar 4 with its little brothers jaeger, solid jaeger, Fujin and Rayker. Eagerly anticipating its resurrection. |
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Post by Somebody’s Mom on Apr 15, 2023 12:52:09 GMT -5
Funny, you say that, I haven’t seen that guy around here in a while, that Raijin dude. Lo and behold I was going through my inventory last night and just had to stop on that guy for a minute. I was actually kind of overwhelmed by the “ what if?” You were right, a decent pilot, even halfway leveled, with a decent drone, and another slot (or, ahem, cough, cough) or even two more slots, for its rightful place in the fabled Three Slot Bot Club, and it really could be the fortress that it was sold to be… Shame EXACTLY! It was my first mk3 bot ever, used it to kill titans, well the original 3 at least. Back in the day when over half a mil health was still a WOW factor. Slow, bulky love bug of a monster, 30% damage increase in bastion mode, USED TO climb….. ahhh the good ol days. Mine is in hangar 4 with its little brothers jaeger, solid jaeger, Fujin and Rayker. Eagerly anticipating its resurrection. FR! That auto 30%, plus special edition weaps, 5%, decent drone and some Nuke amp action? Come on man! That could actually injure somebody! |
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Post by Poopface on Apr 15, 2023 15:24:35 GMT -5
Would be entertaining to see a return of Loganspawn |
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Apr 17, 2023 6:03:36 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings about it. As someone who wasn't a fan of the Fujin "buff" I am relieved to know they won't be tweaking older bots anymore. But, it will be another prime example of Pix trying their hardest to get that £££. It will be good having a regular old bot, and an ultimate one. That way lower leagues would stay the same instead of the older bots being buffed into oblivion, which is what would need to happen to resurrect half of them. Honestly, I thought that was a pretty stupid thing to even suggest. These new ultimate editions would be good, because our OG bots would be able to keep the same mechanics.
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Post by titando on Apr 17, 2023 9:29:23 GMT -5
To do this the correct way, there should be an upgrade path from old to new. That upgrade path could be expensive, hard to get, whatever, but it should not be a completely new bot/weapon with all the ridiculous amount of resources it requires to upgrade.
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Post by TerrorStorm on Apr 18, 2023 0:14:33 GMT -5
This depends on what gets counted as an ultimate weapon; Imagine an unnerfed Ao Jun in a few years, and a broken Fafnir. Eventually everything will be old. The problem with this is that they will have a powerful old, and they always have powerful new stuff, so most players with the middle equipment will be shut out by older stuff too, even if it's easier to get. ... Actually an "unbroken" Fafnir with "unbroken" Freeze Lasers would be a perfect counter to the new Meta... Angler, Nether etc. Fafnir back in the day had Speed, Firepower, Durability etc. Will never happen. Back to the point... I wonder how these rare bots will be handed out? "Win" them at HUGE expense so only top whales get them? Deliver to top Legend League players? Creators? If I had to guess it will be $$$. Maybe even $$$$$. |
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Post by Endobot on Apr 18, 2023 6:18:01 GMT -5
I would love an Ultimate Fafnir with Skadis which performed like before they ruined it/them. Probably my one and only bot/weapon set up which I got levelled up and then got to enjoy for a short time before any nerfing. And no matter what I try with it now, Nitro unit, Immune Amp, speed boosters, all the pilot speed skills known to man, nothing seems to speed it up much in the air so that it`s not just still a big sitting duck
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Apr 18, 2023 6:42:12 GMT -5
Another thing we need to take into account is Ultimate VS Special Edition robots. Would there be any point levelling an Ultimate bot if you already have a special edition maxed out? I know some older bots don't have special editions, but why don't they just make special editions for those bots?
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Post by titando on Apr 18, 2023 8:43:38 GMT -5
Another thing we need to take into account is Ultimate VS Special Edition robots. Would there be any point levelling an Ultimate bot if you already have a special edition maxed out? I know some older bots don't have special editions, but why don't they just make special editions for those bots? Yeah... It makes you wonder if Ultimate Edition is just a fancy name for "Special old bot Edition", i.e. will the stats be the same? AFAIK, they haven't released any specific info about HP/damage percentages. |
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Post by munkeeee on Apr 18, 2023 8:54:27 GMT -5
Its selling point will one up the LE bots of its kind, ie, it will have 10% instead 5% damage boost, or comes with extra time for its ability. The hook for this fish has to appeal to us, not just be ANOTHER LE bot in an endless cycle.
Oh wait, we already ARE trapped in this matrix. This time next yr it will have its buff/nerf cycle just like the rest.
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Post by davortrogon on Apr 18, 2023 13:27:49 GMT -5
Between when they will nerf this and now, how many more robots do they plan to make? Will we see a Leo with 400k hp? A Strider with 250k hp and further dashes, and other dash bots with more dashes? I think that the next robot they will buff will either be from the same branch, (Specter, inquisitor, Mercury), the dash bots (Heichi, Bulgasari, Kuhimo, Strider, Bolt?), possible an older set (Griffin, Cossack (Would be pretty weird), Boa, Golem, Vityaz), maybe even the suppression group (Blitz, Invader, Rayker (Which would be really scary to see a Gust Blitz murdering an Angler or an Invader that takes 2 titans to make themselves known, but the Rayker would be fine), or they might single out certain robots like the Hover (maybe just an Hp, Speed, and cooldown buff (there's not much else to do (Unless they modify it (evil laughter (But they wont because that would go against the ultimate idea they had))))), and so on.
If I had to pick one robot and weapon build that I think they will realistically buff, it's Hover-Scourge-Spark. It's a robot most people don't pay attention to, and they can upgrade a lot of things about it, like removing lock on as aiming, making the Hover jump more forward, more speed hp and less cooldown, and much more damage, maybe it would be the beginning of a bad sign if they gave the new Scourge and Spark damage mitigation or something but probably not.
If they want to be more nostalgic about what they bring back, then something like Butch and Trebuchet will get a meta buff. 8 second reload on Trebuchets that deal 20,000 damage, and only a 1 second dry fire. The robot would have more hp, speed, and a 5 second switch time between weapons; not zero seconds because then it can have the falcon reload effect on a 5 second timer. This robot would be Extremely dangerous because it can reload any weapon in 5 seconds.
If it's Lancelot, Galahad of Gareth, then the shields would no longer break and become resistance based. They would block 95% incoming damage, much better than having the shield break. Or just give it more hp. If they buff Tarans next, they could just cut out the reload part.
If they single out Rhino, it will become a lot faster when running, and it's light weapons will have an effect while running, like either 1/2 reload, 20-40% more damage, or 20% fire rate increase. (1 second = .8 seconds)
Since they started with Specter and it's part of a set, the next robot will determine how they choose which to upgrade. If they upgrade another robot from the same set, expect groups. if they choose one from another set or a single robot, expect the most forgotten robot or most nostalgic one.
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Post by Adazahi on Apr 18, 2023 14:11:17 GMT -5
This is a spit in the face. Selling buffs through Legendary Pilots wasn’t enough for them, so now they want to have us buying the whole bot again.
Prediction: These “ultimate editions” will be subject to the same nerf cycle as regular new OP bots. Ultimate edition specter will be a regular Orkan specter with a special paint job in about a year.
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Post by AcuityAxiom on Apr 18, 2023 15:25:59 GMT -5
So are we gonna have to win a new Ultimate Spectre from a prize pool or will my LV. 10 Spectre in my garage finally see the light of day once again for a tune up?
I very much doubt the latter but I can dream.
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Post by TerrorStorm on Apr 19, 2023 5:12:17 GMT -5
I would love an Ultimate Fafnir with Skadis which performed like before they ruined it/them. Probably my one and only bot/weapon set up which I got levelled up and then got to enjoy for a short time before any nerfing. And no matter what I try with it now, Nitro unit, Immune Amp, speed boosters, all the pilot speed skills known to man, nothing seems to speed it up much in the air so that it`s not just still a big sitting duck Don't lose hope my "fellow mourner of the once Mighty Fafnir" although I do completely feel your pain. I tried for a long time to resurect it, trying many of the points your did. I finally landed on this fellow which is a mainstay in my hanger which to be fair has ZERO meta so it fits right in. - Pulsars got a huge buff and pack a massive hit on top of the Lock Down. 600M range you can play a long or short game.
- Svyatogor Belov as Pilot still punches through shields.
- For Skills: Engine Expert +10% Speed in flight, Destroyer and Road Hog are Key.
- Maxed Repair Amp, Immune Amp and Nuke Amp
It is clearly not the monster it once was but is still highly effective. Once you get the Amps charged up with some long range firing it is Fast due to the Immune Amp +5%. Most important it is FUN and looks GREAT.
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Apr 19, 2023 5:51:05 GMT -5
The corrupted fafnir was my best bot, and by far my favourite. Oh, I miss the days of zipping about the skies in it, good times...
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Post by xxlarrythebarryx on Apr 19, 2023 7:26:18 GMT -5
The corrupted fafnir was my best bot, and by far my favourite. Oh, I miss the days of zipping about the skies in it, good times... Fr tho Fafnirs breath got nerfed against titans and has low durabilaty. I dont't really run mine now. |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Apr 19, 2023 8:23:49 GMT -5
And this one is where Pix has missed the mark, again:
What good does an Ultimate Edition do in the face of subtle hackers?
Nope, hard flippin’ pass.
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Post by Somebody’s Mom on Apr 20, 2023 22:59:03 GMT -5
And this one is where Pix has missed the mark, again: What good does an Ultimate Edition do in the face of subtle hackers? Nope, hard flippin’ pass. Agree…. Simple solution: give Boa, Golem, and Schutze more than one slot…. Oh wait, they don’t have ANY slots. I mean, Natasha even has a slot, and for that matter, Leo as well. A friggin Leo. Triple slot them, and they become almost viable. viable until masters. And give them some bonus HP, give them some skins. that is all. |
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Post by Eradicator1 on Apr 21, 2023 12:32:50 GMT -5
This is a spit in the face. Selling buffs through Legendary Pilots wasn’t enough for them, so now they want to have us buying the whole bot again. Prediction: These “ultimate editions” will be subject to the same nerf cycle as regular new OP bots. Ultimate edition specter will be a regular Orkan specter with a special paint job in about a year. I was ready to part cash for that bot. But crap, I hadn’t thought about those getting nerfed too. Like has been said many a time here. Buyer beware. |
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Apr 25, 2023 7:52:47 GMT -5
And this one is where Pix has missed the mark, again: What good does an Ultimate Edition do in the face of subtle hackers? Nope, hard flippin’ pass. Agree…. Simple solution: give Boa, Golem, and Schutze more than one slot…. Oh wait, they don’t have ANY slots. I mean, Natasha even has a slot, and for that matter, Leo as well. A friggin Leo. Triple slot them, and they become almost viable. viable until masters. And give them some bonus HP, give them some skins. that is all. Noooooo, sure give them some slots, give them ten slots but don't touch their stats! Six Pack is still absorbing the T2 weapons 10% buff. Whenever Pix messes with old bots, the 6P balance shifts around. So far so good, we've rolled with every punch so far but you never know when something becomes a wee bit too much. |
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Post by xxlarrythebarryx on May 12, 2023 13:20:04 GMT -5
The corrupted fafnir was my best bot, and by far my favourite. Oh, I miss the days of zipping about the skies in it, good times... Fr tho Fafnirs breath got nerfed against titans and has low durabilaty. I dont't really run mine now. I may quit the game. |
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