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Post by 079 on Jan 12, 2023 10:35:45 GMT -5
Pixonic just confirmed that a massive balance update is indeed on the horizon, and like the rumors said, it seems to be giving blanket buffs for weapon tiers and bigger/smaller buffs for certain weapons. Kinda stinks that it will not arrive with the update itself though and we will have to wait a bit more, but at least it is happening! We’ll have to keep our eye out on Discord to see the exact changes.  |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 12, 2023 10:40:13 GMT -5
079 And when Purple Shields go away... A whole new game. So new that Chimeras might be worthwhile for once. 
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Post by davortrogon on Jan 12, 2023 15:39:48 GMT -5
I'll be able to kill people again. No more mercy. No more running, or cowering away, looking for a tactical way out, and wishing it was fair. I used to be able to get 5-10 kills with my Hover, and when the ones thrown into power lose their castle.... The ones who must be sieged will be dealt the crushing blow.... And the ones who were left behind can return, rejuvenated, and bring balance to this world, for once in a long time! The players who truly deserve the right to win battles will be king once more, and the current rulers will be brutally and mercilessly exiled, back to their rightful place in this world: wherever they fall to! This is a message to the end of the world, which was approaching at it's haunting pace: Not Today! Not ever! We will no longer run! Face our wrath! Our fury! Our wickedness! Our WILL! You are no longer accepted among the likes of us! Be GONE!!
Once this era of Madness, this broken, fractured false Utopia, this damned dream, comes to it's untimely demise, the world will be whole again! All used! All Equal! All Fair! We will no longer wish to surrender! There is now a bright, burning light at the end of the tunnel! Burning with freedom! Salvation! Retribution, for how long we were oppressed! For how we were shuttled and sheparded into the kennel into the defined newest and best! Retribution! For all the rounds where the better players could do nothing to the new and renovated slaughter! Retribution! We only have a little more time left to hold out! To hold out for the swift hand of whatever god we believe in, whatever karma we may have, and the will of our neighbors and ourselves, for when the day comes, it will be judgement day! Ragnarok! Judgement for those who could only ever pay to win a game! Those who laughed at the weak players with 10 times more games played than them! Their world is about to END!
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Jan 13, 2023 7:25:12 GMT -5
I anticipate that the top end meta peeps will continue to have whatever weapons are most effective, whatever defenses are most effective, and will keep on crushing just about everyone in their path. Every change that lets you deal more damage, let's them deal it too. It reminds me of when lockdown was first announced. Everybody was posting about how awesome it was going to be to lock all the Reds down. No one was talking about how it was going to feel to be locked down. stolen from Kylie Bru's FB post:  |
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Post by titando on Jan 13, 2023 9:01:51 GMT -5
This could be the most interesting balance yet. If drone shielding really goes away, and all these weapons are doing significant more damage, bots are gonna die quick.
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Post by gus169 on Jan 13, 2023 9:27:12 GMT -5
They're really locking down the 'tier' system. Making them distinct. T1 kills get even sweeter to a twisted eyeball
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Post by munkeeee on Jan 13, 2023 9:45:41 GMT -5
Gonna be a lot of speed matches and quick games.
On the other hand, will be glorious using older weapons on noob whales and meta chasers and be able to put up more of a fight.
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Post by Poopface on Jan 13, 2023 10:34:41 GMT -5
I anticipate that the top end meta peeps will continue to have whatever weapons are most effective, whatever defenses are most effective, and will keep on crushing just about everyone in their path. Every change that lets you deal more damage, let's them deal it too. It reminds me of when lockdown was first announced. Everybody was posting about how awesome it was going to be to lock all the Reds down. No one was talking about how it was going to feel to be locked down. stolen from Kylie Bru's FB post:
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 13, 2023 11:02:55 GMT -5
Some buffs and nerfs
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Post by Poopface on Jan 13, 2023 11:18:52 GMT -5
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 13, 2023 11:25:10 GMT -5
So that means... Prisma gets a 40% buff! In the future without purple shields, lockdown ammo, BrZzzzzzt! He's dead, Jim.
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Post by BB on Jan 13, 2023 11:30:31 GMT -5
My emoji review (YES, I have too much time on my hands today)  |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 13, 2023 11:46:31 GMT -5
BB yer right 40% to Incinerator-class and Glacier class! Could be bigness brewing! 40% to Viper! 40% to Nucleon-class! You get a buff and YOU get a buff. Look under your chair because you got a buff too!
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 13, 2023 11:49:46 GMT -5
Big big big rebalance!
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Post by Poopface on Jan 13, 2023 13:34:49 GMT -5
The Rumors were True: Balance Update! For those that know where this comes from (besides memegenerator.net), I defy you to see this meme and not hear it.
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Post by munkeeee on Jan 13, 2023 14:01:34 GMT -5
TARGETED NERFS
Buffing alone won’t be enough to even out the meta. The recent update exposed several outliers which we need to trim down:
- Khepri: increased ability cooldown (7 → 8); decreased ability Defense Points (50 → 40); decreased ability damage bonus (15% → 10%)
- Spear: increased shot interval (0.6 → 1.1)
- Seraph: reduced Forcefield threshold (phase 1: 35,000 → 30,000; phase 2: 55,000 → 45,000)
- Puncher: increased aimcone (0.03 → 0.045)
- Angler: decreased ability damage (45%); decreased shield durability (10%)
- Jaw, Claw, Talon: increased full reload time (5 → 6)
- Scatter, Havoc, Devastator: decreased ammo (9 → 8); increased reload interval (1.5 → 2)
- Behemoth: decreased speed (45 → 40); reduced durability (10%)
- Avalanche: decreased AoE (19 → 12)
- Mars: reduced turret damage (30%); increased ability cooldown (15 → 17); reduced Aegis durability (20%); reduced Aegis regeneration rate (20%)
- Fainter: increased reload interval (1 → 2)
While most of the items on this list are obvious targets since we decided to level the field, Behemoth and Avalanche are kinda sitting on the fence. We want to leave the new pilot skills as they are, but Explosives Expert makes the Avalanche build too strong and allows it to completely ignore shields. Hence the nerf.
Additionally, we’re nerfing the smart machine guns and equalizing Northlight with Mantis:
- Smuta, Razdor, Kramola: decreased reload capacity (14 → 10, full reload time increases to 18 sec); reduced aim assist capacity (details TBD)
- Northlight: decreased repair / Aegis durability (20%); decreased Defense Points (100 → 50); Thor, Shieldbreaker can negate the effect of Northlight
TARGETED BUFFS
Some of the older weapons could use additional help on top of their tier buff. We don’t plan on bringing them back to the Champion league, but then who knows… combined with pilots, modules, and drones maybe they can give life to some meme builds.
- Shocktrain: increased damage (20%)
- Ballista: increased damage (20%)
- Hussar, Marquess, Dragoon: increased damage (20%)
- Quarker, Atomizer, Nucleon: increased time to overheat (10 → 11)
- Glory: decreased shot interval (1 → 0.5); decreased reload interval (2 → 1.8)
- Vortex: decreased reload time (10 → 9)
This balance update is mainly about weapons. However, we couldn’t miss the opportunity to use the data accumulated since the previous one and issue buffs to this bunch:
- Jaeger: increased speed while out of sniper stance (details TBD)
- Hellburner: increased explosion damage both from ability use and when getting destroyed (10%)
- Blitz: reduced ability cooldown (17 → 15)
- Cerberus: increased ability damage (50%); increased Corrosion damage (22%); increased Aegis durability (10%)
- Rayker: increased ability damage (50%); increased durability (10%)
- Falcon: increased Defense Points (150 → 200)
- Mercury, Inquisitor: increased Stealth duration (5 → 6)
- Spectre: increased Stealth duration (2 → 4)
- Raijin: increased ability damage bonus (10%)
- Ares: will no longer slow down on ability use
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Post by Jeb on Jan 13, 2023 15:33:20 GMT -5
The targeted buffs stack on top of the blanket buffs. Hussars getting 45%!
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jan 13, 2023 16:57:16 GMT -5
The Rumors were True: Balance Update! For those that know where this comes from (besides memegenerator.net), I defy you to see this meme and not hear it.
The Sheriff is Blanket Buffs are <BONG> what? I think he said, The Blanket Buffs are near. |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 13, 2023 18:20:09 GMT -5
To me, Angler and Spear getting nerfed means Loki getting buffed!
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jan 13, 2023 21:29:09 GMT -5
So that means... Prisma gets a 40% buff! In the future without purple shields, lockdown ammo, BrZzzzzzt! He's dead, Jim. That is scary. The flame rockets might actually have a use now with the pilot that ignores 50% of resistance and those Redeemers.... OMG. This is going to give the video makers weeks of new content LoL. |
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Post by Poopface on Jan 13, 2023 23:25:50 GMT -5
BB yer right 40% to Incinerator-class and Glacier class! Could be bigness brewing! 40% to Viper! 40% to Nucleon-class! You get a buff and YOU get a buff. Look under your chair because you got a buff too! I’m ready!    Looking forward to seeing how it does after the boost!  |
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Post by gus169 on Jan 14, 2023 2:14:09 GMT -5
PoopfaceThat Lance looks like an absolute blast. I love it  With those 2 fortifiers, I wonder how an Ancile would fare in the 'new shield paradigm'
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Jan 14, 2023 2:34:42 GMT -5
So the Avalanche is sitting on the edge of OP when used on a single bot with a specific pilot skill.
The solution? Nerf the Avalanche!
Classic Pix logic!
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Post by Jeb on Jan 14, 2023 10:49:10 GMT -5
So that means... Prisma gets a 40% buff! In the future without purple shields, lockdown ammo, BrZzzzzzt! He's dead, Jim. That is scary. The flame rockets might actually have a use now with the pilot that ignores 50% of resistance and those Redeemers.... OMG. This is going to give the video makers weeks of new content LoL. I'm already running Incinerator/Scald on a Leo with Peregrine (including Explosives Expert) and a maxed Balance Unit, and they do slap a bit. |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jan 14, 2023 11:54:36 GMT -5
TARGETED NERFS Buffing alone won’t be enough to even out the meta. The recent update exposed several outliers which we need to trim down: - Khepri: increased ability cooldown (7 → 8); decreased ability Defense Points (50 → 40); decreased ability damage bonus (15% → 10%) - Spear: increased shot interval (0.6 → 1.1) - Seraph: reduced Forcefield threshold (phase 1: 35,000 → 30,000; phase 2: 55,000 → 45,000) - Puncher: increased aimcone (0.03 → 0.045) - Angler: decreased ability damage (45%); decreased shield durability (10%) - Jaw, Claw, Talon: increased full reload time (5 → 6) - Scatter, Havoc, Devastator: decreased ammo (9 → 8); increased reload interval (1.5 → 2) - Behemoth: decreased speed (45 → 40); reduced durability (10%) - Avalanche: decreased AoE (19 → 12) - Mars: reduced turret damage (30%); increased ability cooldown (15 → 17); reduced Aegis durability (20%); reduced Aegis regeneration rate (20%) - Fainter: increased reload interval (1 → 2) While most of the items on this list are obvious targets since we decided to level the field, Behemoth and Avalanche are kinda sitting on the fence. We want to leave the new pilot skills as they are, but Explosives Expert makes the Avalanche build too strong and allows it to completely ignore shields. Hence the nerf. Additionally, we’re nerfing the smart machine guns and equalizing Northlight with Mantis: - Smuta, Razdor, Kramola: decreased reload capacity (14 → 10, full reload time increases to 18 sec); reduced aim assist capacity (details TBD) - Northlight: decreased repair / Aegis durability (20%); decreased Defense Points (100 → 50); Thor, Shieldbreaker can negate the effect of Northlight TARGETED BUFFS Some of the older weapons could use additional help on top of their tier buff. We don’t plan on bringing them back to the Champion league, but then who knows… combined with pilots, modules, and drones maybe they can give life to some meme builds. - Shocktrain: increased damage (20%) - Ballista: increased damage (20%) - Hussar, Marquess, Dragoon: increased damage (20%) - Quarker, Atomizer, Nucleon: increased time to overheat (10 → 11) - Glory: decreased shot interval (1 → 0.5); decreased reload interval (2 → 1.8) - Vortex: decreased reload time (10 → 9) This balance update is mainly about weapons. However, we couldn’t miss the opportunity to use the data accumulated since the previous one and issue buffs to this bunch: - Jaeger: increased speed while out of sniper stance (details TBD) - Hellburner: increased explosion damage both from ability use and when getting destroyed (10%) - Blitz: reduced ability cooldown (17 → 15) - Cerberus: increased ability damage (50%); increased Corrosion damage (22%); increased Aegis durability (10%) - Rayker: increased ability damage (50%); increased durability (10%) - Falcon: increased Defense Points (150 → 200) - Mercury, Inquisitor: increased Stealth duration (5 → 6) - Spectre: increased Stealth duration (2 → 4) - Raijin: increased ability damage bonus (10%) - Ares: will no longer slow down on ability use My experience just now reading was similar to when you are in a restaurant and its all noise when suddenly just part of someones conversation becomes crystal clear to you. All I read of your post was bla bla bla blasndjdjejehdnnfjrjejdjdndndnnd  |
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Post by munkeeee on Jan 14, 2023 12:53:48 GMT -5
TARGETED NERFS Buffing alone won’t be enough to even out the meta. The recent update exposed several outliers which we need to trim down: - Khepri: increased ability cooldown (7 → 8); decreased ability Defense Points (50 → 40); decreased ability damage bonus (15% → 10%) - Spear: increased shot interval (0.6 → 1.1) - Seraph: reduced Forcefield threshold (phase 1: 35,000 → 30,000; phase 2: 55,000 → 45,000) - Puncher: increased aimcone (0.03 → 0.045) - Angler: decreased ability damage (45%); decreased shield durability (10%) - Jaw, Claw, Talon: increased full reload time (5 → 6) - Scatter, Havoc, Devastator: decreased ammo (9 → 8); increased reload interval (1.5 → 2) - Behemoth: decreased speed (45 → 40); reduced durability (10%) - Avalanche: decreased AoE (19 → 12) - Mars: reduced turret damage (30%); increased ability cooldown (15 → 17); reduced Aegis durability (20%); reduced Aegis regeneration rate (20%) - Fainter: increased reload interval (1 → 2) While most of the items on this list are obvious targets since we decided to level the field, Behemoth and Avalanche are kinda sitting on the fence. We want to leave the new pilot skills as they are, but Explosives Expert makes the Avalanche build too strong and allows it to completely ignore shields. Hence the nerf. Additionally, we’re nerfing the smart machine guns and equalizing Northlight with Mantis: - Smuta, Razdor, Kramola: decreased reload capacity (14 → 10, full reload time increases to 18 sec); reduced aim assist capacity (details TBD) - Northlight: decreased repair / Aegis durability (20%); decreased Defense Points (100 → 50); Thor, Shieldbreaker can negate the effect of Northlight TARGETED BUFFS Some of the older weapons could use additional help on top of their tier buff. We don’t plan on bringing them back to the Champion league, but then who knows… combined with pilots, modules, and drones maybe they can give life to some meme builds. - Shocktrain: increased damage (20%) - Ballista: increased damage (20%) - Hussar, Marquess, Dragoon: increased damage (20%) - Quarker, Atomizer, Nucleon: increased time to overheat (10 → 11) - Glory: decreased shot interval (1 → 0.5); decreased reload interval (2 → 1.8) - Vortex: decreased reload time (10 → 9) This balance update is mainly about weapons. However, we couldn’t miss the opportunity to use the data accumulated since the previous one and issue buffs to this bunch: - Jaeger: increased speed while out of sniper stance (details TBD) - Hellburner: increased explosion damage both from ability use and when getting destroyed (10%) - Blitz: reduced ability cooldown (17 → 15) - Cerberus: increased ability damage (50%); increased Corrosion damage (22%); increased Aegis durability (10%) - Rayker: increased ability damage (50%); increased durability (10%) - Falcon: increased Defense Points (150 → 200) - Mercury, Inquisitor: increased Stealth duration (5 → 6) - Spectre: increased Stealth duration (2 → 4) - Raijin: increased ability damage bonus (10%) - Ares: will no longer slow down on ability use Hellburner, haha |
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Post by Poopface on Jan 14, 2023 13:44:42 GMT -5
I’m really curious about this one.  Yeah Cerberus is squishy, but since I like tinkering I’m intrigued with trying out a Cerberus build either using the Medea pilot and geared with Hornet/Wasp or really gamble with Bane/Venom. |
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Post by Endobot on Jan 14, 2023 14:28:31 GMT -5
So looking at the proposed changes, the ridiculousness of Spears delivering 400% damage and Angler never being out of it’s ability long enough to do it much damage don’t seem to be an issue then!
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jan 14, 2023 15:55:14 GMT -5
TARGETED NERFS Buffing alone won’t be enough to even out the meta. The recent update exposed several outliers which we need to trim down: - Khepri: increased ability cooldown (7 → 8); decreased ability Defense Points (50 → 40); decreased ability damage bonus (15% → 10%) - Spear: increased shot interval (0.6 → 1.1) - Seraph: reduced Forcefield threshold (phase 1: 35,000 → 30,000; phase 2: 55,000 → 45,000) - Puncher: increased aimcone (0.03 → 0.045) - Angler: decreased ability damage (45%); decreased shield durability (10%) - Jaw, Claw, Talon: increased full reload time (5 → 6) - Scatter, Havoc, Devastator: decreased ammo (9 → 8); increased reload interval (1.5 → 2) - Behemoth: decreased speed (45 → 40); reduced durability (10%) - Avalanche: decreased AoE (19 → 12) - Mars: reduced turret damage (30%); increased ability cooldown (15 → 17); reduced Aegis durability (20%); reduced Aegis regeneration rate (20%) - Fainter: increased reload interval (1 → 2) While most of the items on this list are obvious targets since we decided to level the field, Behemoth and Avalanche are kinda sitting on the fence. We want to leave the new pilot skills as they are, but Explosives Expert makes the Avalanche build too strong and allows it to completely ignore shields. Hence the nerf. Additionally, we’re nerfing the smart machine guns and equalizing Northlight with Mantis: - Smuta, Razdor, Kramola: decreased reload capacity (14 → 10, full reload time increases to 18 sec); reduced aim assist capacity (details TBD) - Northlight: decreased repair / Aegis durability (20%); decreased Defense Points (100 → 50); Thor, Shieldbreaker can negate the effect of Northlight TARGETED BUFFS Some of the older weapons could use additional help on top of their tier buff. We don’t plan on bringing them back to the Champion league, but then who knows… combined with pilots, modules, and drones maybe they can give life to some meme builds. - Shocktrain: increased damage (20%) - Ballista: increased damage (20%) - Hussar, Marquess, Dragoon: increased damage (20%) - Quarker, Atomizer, Nucleon: increased time to overheat (10 → 11) - Glory: decreased shot interval (1 → 0.5); decreased reload interval (2 → 1.8) - Vortex: decreased reload time (10 → 9) This balance update is mainly about weapons. However, we couldn’t miss the opportunity to use the data accumulated since the previous one and issue buffs to this bunch: - Jaeger: increased speed while out of sniper stance (details TBD) - Hellburner: increased explosion damage both from ability use and when getting destroyed (10%) - Blitz: reduced ability cooldown (17 → 15) - Cerberus: increased ability damage (50%); increased Corrosion damage (22%); increased Aegis durability (10%) - Rayker: increased ability damage (50%); increased durability (10%) - Falcon: increased Defense Points (150 → 200) - Mercury, Inquisitor: increased Stealth duration (5 → 6) - Spectre: increased Stealth duration (2 → 4) - Raijin: increased ability damage bonus (10%) - Ares: will no longer slow down on ability use Hellburner, haha I am building a full Hellburner hangar. Its a lot of fun and can be incredibly nasty when done right |
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jan 14, 2023 16:29:53 GMT -5
So looking at the proposed changes, the ridiculousness of Spears delivering 400% damage and Angler never being out of it’s ability long enough to do it much damage don’t seem to be an issue then! The last test server they talked about a 10% damage nerf and less damage on the third hit alongside the 1.1 second shot interval. Don't know what happened since but maybe players with 12+ of them in their hangars complained enough for them to rethink? 10% nerf to angler shield is a joke but at least they won't do as much damage as a Minos with cinders during the ability anymore. Would have liked to see a nerf to cooldown as well but oh well it's better than nothing |
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