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Post by donetotally on Nov 13, 2022 20:41:01 GMT -5
Ok im happy about it, but knowing the clowns at Pixonic this is only a move to bring in newer and better (or worse) than Seraph our way. Now Seraph people are complaining saying, "you non Seraph people getting what you ask for, now what's going to beat Angler, Nether, Aether or whatever else comes down the pike. Maybe so, but dealing with those three is still better than dealing with those four, imo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 0:57:12 GMT -5
not really an issue since this trend has been happening for years and it was inevitable and likely always will be ....NERF current over powered bot > hype the next over powered bot > place it in an event which is super expensive > gullible morons buy it! rinse repeat.
the ones that cry about such things are usually the ones that CAN'T compete without it due to lack of skill/brain cells to figure out counters..without being TOLD specifically what is what detail by detail with a step by step instruction book with large print and pretty pictures lol.
there are many more that have far more fun playing older bots anyway these days and figuring out what specifically works for them and not jumping on the band wagon....must buy this must buy that or i can't play! i need to be able to push one button and win!
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Post by gus169 on Nov 14, 2022 1:24:00 GMT -5
Well said @iamme Nothing new under the sun
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Post by donetotally on Nov 14, 2022 7:53:34 GMT -5
Yeah I agree totally, guys buying latest and greatest just to stay in the top echelon. Now granted some of these guys are skilled players, they can jack you up with a Destier. But a lot are half decent players with a tank to work with, take away the tank and then let's see what happens.
But the one thing you said which is true, pix keeps coming out with op over and over, nerf the current op and replace with the next one, rinse, repeat
I just don't understand that business model. They created the game it's a huge success, its a fun game for thousands of players. Fine, come out with new stuff make it a desirable item, I get that, but why does it have to be so over the top op.. I mean it's almost the same as a hacked bot. I lost 3 bots at spawn to a sonic angler and the thing was either in a shield or it was invisible nearly all the time. After the third 7 sec and dead bot of mine, this is reminding me of a hacked bot and weapon. I mean who comes up with this, "let's make a 3 lights and a heavy bot that is invisible over 50% of the time, and can kill at all times, plus we'll come out with new op weapon system to match it"
I'm not crying, whining or anything else, I really can care less, I'll fight them like everyone else here does. My point is why can't a successful company with a good game just come out with their new stuff, fine, but at least stay within the framework of some type of fairness?
I believe the reason for this is entirely based on revenue, and practically no other factor, not fairness, not what is right, just money.
I wrote pixonic the other day in their suggestions and feedback, brought up about all the changes in the last 2 months or so, boosters, mk3 change, silver reduction, playstore discount coupon removal, etc etc.. [all monetary related stuff] they wrote back that I wrote in report abuse category, I wrote back, I DID NOT SUBMIT THIS IN REPORT ABUSE, I SUBMITTED IT IN SUGGESTIONS AND FEEDBACK! case is still open still haven't heard back at all from them.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Nov 14, 2022 10:26:13 GMT -5
I'm not crying, whining or anything else, I really can care less, I'll fight them like everyone else here does. My point is why can't a successful company with a good game just come out with their new stuff, fine, but at least stay within the framework of some type of fairness? Great follow-up rant. It's hard to pull-off a sequel with success. Score: 4.2 out of 5. Quality work. You should coach. Rubbin'? Your thoughts? gus169Why? Because, wait for it.... We. Keep. Paying.
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Post by gus169 on Nov 14, 2022 10:55:43 GMT -5
I did read this one, and I totally agree with the sentiment. It's tricky to judge a rant that is ringing all your bells. I want to give it a score of "BRAVO! Encore!", but, well, it's just too damn sensible. You should have to clean your keyboard after typing these out (or maybe buy a new one). I have to give it 4.5/5 for analysis, but I can only give it 2.5/5 for bellyfeel. Averages at 3.5 I guess, but I'll give it an even 4, in a completely arbitrary way. #typeitwithyourforehead #MORECAPSLOCK #AAAARRGH!!?! Oliver Kloesov
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Nov 14, 2022 11:31:39 GMT -5
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Post by donetotally on Nov 14, 2022 16:24:25 GMT -5
Loved the video, not quite sure if it's dead, but I like the fact at least it's taking more damage in the air, now maybe we can fight it with our ground bots.
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Post by donetotally on Nov 14, 2022 16:52:26 GMT -5
I read the comments in the video, some folks want a Khephi and Mars nerf next. I kind of feel this way about our current meta, not talking about the newest stuff, but I think Khepri and Mars are pretty much balanced bots. Yes, Mars can be a handful but if you use it, it's a breath of fresh air, it's fast and maneuverable, it's actually fun but mostly, it can fight Khepris and other tanky bots. Mars reminds me of Galahad in a way with its maneuverability and speed (well in its day, Galahad had some speed with pilot skills) Galahad was a prince with Taran and magnums, it packed a punch too. Khepris are still something to deal with, but without it, i think the game suffers overall. Biggest problem now is Angler, someone said Ravana is a counter to it, I dont know. Probably Mars might be its best counter for Angler.
Bottom line: thank goodness Seraph is getting a nerf. Maybe Pixonic actually sees that Seraph is toxic for War Robots (in a number of ways), just hope the nerf is strong enough.
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Post by 0megaman on Nov 14, 2022 19:57:16 GMT -5
What the game needs is BALANCE.
Pigsonic is only interested in CASH. And OP sells quickly to the skill-less and inept.
0M
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Nov 14, 2022 20:05:51 GMT -5
Loved the video, not quite sure if it's dead, but I like the fact at least it's taking more damage in the air, now maybe we can fight it with our ground bots. And maybe seraph pilots will have to rethink shooting bots with reflectors like Minos, leech, siren and harpy now instead of just shooting straight into them and receiving no damage in return.
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Post by donetotally on Nov 14, 2022 21:09:53 GMT -5
Good point!
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Post by munkeeee on Nov 14, 2022 21:22:01 GMT -5
Seraph nerf,,,,,,,,,
Yes please. Thank you.
/rant
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Nov 15, 2022 5:18:23 GMT -5
why can't a successful company with a good game just come out with their new stuff, fine, but at least stay within the framework of some type of fairness? OH MY GOD I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS! Spot on! If they gave the players what they wanted, they would be way more successful. Imagine, balanced bots, weapons, titans, module slots on older bots, fixed matchmaking and targeting, hacker control - there's 7 things they could do to improve the game that the player base would really appreciate, without ANY new content.
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Nov 15, 2022 5:20:19 GMT -5
Thank 「fluffernutter」 it's getting nerfed. To be quite honest, I hope it gets nerfed so far to the ground it chokes on the dirt. No more electric spaz birds dominating everything everywhere every time. No shield on takeoff, meh. Built in weapon damage nerf, yeah that's ok.
Needs a harder nerf IMO. How about... It can't move?
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Post by donetotally on Nov 15, 2022 6:47:41 GMT -5
I agree with both comments absolutely... get rid of seraph it opens up the game to all our light and medium duty bots again, typhoon, invader, erebus, leech, blitz, ravana, hawk, etc.
But Wolf is right, so much more that needs and can be fixed with no loss to their bottom line.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Nov 15, 2022 11:22:53 GMT -5
The folks running 3+ Unknown Seraphs are finally getting their comeuppance. I'm not crying. Here come the stupid Anglers. Yay.
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Post by TerrorStorm on Nov 22, 2022 3:15:47 GMT -5
Not sure about this NERF. Still see these things flying around like crazy (super fast) and virtually un-killable. Still hangers running 2 or 3 of the cursed things. This is certainly not at the level of the NERF they gave ol'Fafnir and its Freeze Lasers.
I guess my expectations were too high and I was hoping to see these things NERFed right out of the game.
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Post by >^\}VULTURE{/^< on Nov 22, 2022 4:46:30 GMT -5
The actual nerf WAS balanced, problem is these sneaksy lil bastages didn't block skills like Engine expert ect. from use on the already powerful speed & ability extender Legendary Pilot...which they should have because with those skills on that pilot, it's actually a buff for that game patch.
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Post by TerrorStorm on Nov 22, 2022 4:59:45 GMT -5
They just don't drop out of the sky like I thought. At least the Weather Chickens are easy to kill with a Scorpion once they land. Seraphs are just VERY, VERY tough... still.
On a side note if the Seraph NERF was balanced (not disagreeing) why was the Fafnir NERF so brutal? Rhetorical as I'm just still so BITTER on that one (thieving 「illegitimate child」s) and it is largely responsible for me taking a big step back from this game in general. I'm holding a grudge.
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Post by TerrorStorm on Nov 22, 2022 5:01:55 GMT -5
I'm also bitter my curse just go bleeped.
Thieving Rat Finks! (PIX... not you VULTURE.)
(Better?)
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Post by donetotally on Nov 22, 2022 7:46:41 GMT -5
But the nerf isn't in yet, it will be out with update 8.6 hopefully will be out by the end of the month. However, if you see it on live server (promotion of the nerf) and still unbeatable, that's a big problem.. That extra second or 2 to kill it just as it flies off, will be a help too.. I cant tell you how many times, got him on the brink of destruction only to see him fly off at the last second with full shield, and killing me and/or teamates.
I'm also hoping, as there is talk about it, Yama map coming back out with 8.6
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Post by donetotally on Nov 22, 2022 7:53:25 GMT -5
I agree, extra pilot skills, immunity modules and extender durability via mothership is definitely a problem. Interestingly, Seraph got the engine skill and durability skill set, which the thing is already broken and is a problem, but khepri didn't get the engine, or durability option skill set.
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Post by gus169 on Nov 22, 2022 8:17:44 GMT -5
I'm also hoping, as there is talk about it, Yama map coming back out with 8.6 I'm looking forward to that. even if they've messed it up
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Post by >^\}VULTURE{/^< on Nov 22, 2022 11:44:28 GMT -5
But the nerf isn't in yet, it will be out with update 8.6 hopefully will be out by the end of the month. However, if you see it on live server (promotion of the nerf) and still unbeatable, that's a big problem.. That extra second or 2 to kill it just as it flies off, will be a help too.. I cant tell you how many times, got him on the brink of destruction only to see him fly off at the last second with full shield, and killing me and/or teamates. I'm also hoping, as there is talk about it, Yama map coming back out with 8.6 The nerf is already live, it came in with the skills update. That's what has me so pissed about it.
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Post by donetotally on Nov 22, 2022 22:08:52 GMT -5
Oh, well that sucks :/
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Post by gus169 on Nov 22, 2022 22:16:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I was thinking it must be live. Just because I've been able to kill more of them. The takeoff and landing phases especially, but even taking damage in flight.
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Post by donetotally on Nov 23, 2022 8:06:23 GMT -5
Yes I think you are right, they do seem a little bit easier, and maybe not quite as deadly.. hopefully people using them will feel they are weak and Starr phasing it out... oh thats right Pixonic is here to rescue us with new bots and weapons.. horrah!, horrah! (😑)
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Nov 23, 2022 9:14:55 GMT -5
The Fafnir got killed basically over night.
Pix is going to have nerf the Seraph again if they want to sell more dookie.
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Post by donetotally on Nov 23, 2022 22:50:09 GMT -5
Pffff champ Seraph seems like the thing wasn't even touched. All they did was nerf the lower level Seraphs that don't have max pilots and ever other A+ improvement there is. It's a joke, it needs a lot more nerf than this. Just goes to show, even with the so called "nerf" it's still totally op BS.
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