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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 2:30:53 GMT -5
My tip. Try this chip. Lockdown Shell before he kill u.
I use glacier to slow but they reached me. I use on repair defense to protect blast. Not enough.
my Shell killer. Bulwark emberglacier. With NA.
first Shell is hardest to kill.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Sept 19, 2021 3:43:46 GMT -5
I use tier 3 lockdown chip on my bulwark as well although I'm running hel weapons.
That's to slow down and annoy fafnirs and orochis. If a shell comes my way, well I gotta run and use jump module for retreat purposes.
Gave up running glaciers a while ago. Too hard to hit anything these days and runs out of puff too quickly.
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Post by Jeb on Sept 19, 2021 9:00:07 GMT -5
T3 lockdowner on my froodles Raven works damn near as fast as the lockdown module. Like, see, shoot, stop. It's brutal.
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Post by 079 on Sept 19, 2021 10:08:37 GMT -5
T3 lockdowner on my froodles Raven works damn near as fast as the lockdown module. Like, see, shoot, stop. It's brutal. This is why I’m hoping the froodles nerf will be more focused on effect accumulation rather than damage. The fact these builds can freeze bots and apply drone effects by just looking in the general direction of a target is too much. I can deal with high damage (we all can), but not when I’m frozen, suppressed, and locked down!
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Sept 19, 2021 13:58:16 GMT -5
I get the reasoning, but think Lockdowner is better suited to longer range builds. In close quarters a gold Suppressor will nerf the enemy weapons 75%. Pixonic clarified to me that the ability boom of Shell and Hellburner are considered weapons themselves, so when they are suppressed, it isn’t just the equipped weapons that get suppressed, but the blast as well. Suppression is much more important in cqc imo
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 16:35:24 GMT -5
T3 lockdowner on my froodles Raven works damn near as fast as the lockdown module. Like, see, shoot, stop. It's brutal. This is why I’m hoping the froodles nerf will be more focused on effect accumulation rather than damage. The fact these builds can freeze bots and apply drone effects by just looking in the general direction of a target is too much. I can deal with high damage (we all can), but not when I’m frozen, suppressed, and locked down! Stock damage of the quick freeze guns is bareable. But I see weapon stacked with Overdrive and NA modules. the chip damage adds up. These bots can wreak havoc if left alone. That and their ability to swarm and pinpoint your team’s weak point.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 16:53:46 GMT -5
I get the reasoning, but think Lockdowner is better suited to longer range builds. In close quarters a gold Suppressor will nerf the enemy weapons 75%. Pixonic clarified to me that the ability boom of Shell and Hellburner are considered weapons themselves, so when they are suppressed, it isn’t just the equipped weapons that get suppressed, but the blast as well. Suppression is much more important in cqc imo Yes, I am trying to find a build that works. I am 100 free so I am stuck with sub par champion max gear. Mk3 bots and tier3 chips mostly. Still die easily to meta and Shell. if the Shell is standing on middle of Shenzhen, I can step in and slowly kill them while they are busy fighting. but if a Shell charges me, I die every time now. My bulwark and weapons are Mk2 4. I am to slow in my bulwark to keep up with group and reposition, so I always get attacked. On Repair Defense is not helping and cool down is to long so 2nd shell blast will finish me. My hope is to not get hit and stay 100m away. I have NA on him. But not going to do any good if I cannot last through 1 Shell. lag is absolutely terrible. Cannot aim and have 3 good bots die in 2 minutes.otherwise I think my bulwark + lockdown should work.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 17:00:55 GMT -5
I use tier 3 lockdown chip on my bulwark as well although I'm running hel weapons. That's to slow down and annoy fafnirs and orochis. If a shell comes my way, well I gotta run and use jump module for retreat purposes. Gave up running glaciers a while ago. Too hard to hit anything these days and runs out of puff too quickly. Yes. My bulwark is built to counter shells but it does a terrible job. 10% damage and me dead. So I am not going to run away. it is mainly the Shell blast because it hurts me big time. If my aegis is down, the blast can straight up kill me with 25 to 33% of my health giving no chance to auto repair and use heal. this may be lost cause. I keep dying over and over. I just won NA so hoping to make bulwark work.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Sept 19, 2021 17:14:05 GMT -5
I use tier 3 lockdown chip on my bulwark as well although I'm running hel weapons. That's to slow down and annoy fafnirs and orochis. If a shell comes my way, well I gotta run and use jump module for retreat purposes. Gave up running glaciers a while ago. Too hard to hit anything these days and runs out of puff too quickly. Yes. My bulwark is built to counter shells but it does a terrible job. 10% damage and me dead. So I am not going to run away. it is mainly the Shell blast because it hurts me big time. If my aegis is down, the blast can straight up kill me with 25 to 33% of my health giving no chance to auto repair and use heal. this may be lost cause. I keep dying over and over. I just won NA so hoping to make bulwark work. Try the jump unit to evade the Shells. Jump backwards while continuing to shoot them
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Sept 19, 2021 17:30:05 GMT -5
I use tier 3 lockdown chip on my bulwark as well although I'm running hel weapons. That's to slow down and annoy fafnirs and orochis. If a shell comes my way, well I gotta run and use jump module for retreat purposes. Gave up running glaciers a while ago. Too hard to hit anything these days and runs out of puff too quickly. Yes. My bulwark is built to counter shells but it does a terrible job. 10% damage and me dead. So I am not going to run away. it is mainly the Shell blast because it hurts me big time. If my aegis is down, the blast can straight up kill me with 25 to 33% of my health giving no chance to auto repair and use heal. this may be lost cause. I keep dying over and over. I just won NA so hoping to make bulwark work. I run 2 fortifiers since I also won a nuclear amplifier. I think the bulwark shines in a mid range roll these days. I'd love to try incinerators on it but have too many other things to level up first. Avalanches would be a good choice for shell nut cracking as well. These weapons would suit the NA nicely as you can afford to keep some distance while slowly building extra damage.
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Post by heavypiece on Sept 19, 2021 19:41:41 GMT -5
I remember back in the day when it seemed as though lots of folks were hating on lock down weapons.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Sept 19, 2021 21:47:09 GMT -5
I remember back in the day when it seemed as though lots of folks were hating on lock down weapons. It is what it is. I would rather they (and countless other magic) be removed from the game but it's not going anywhere so I reckon there's no benefit to taking the moral high ground and not running these "features". Anything I can do to protect and prolong my bots life in battle, I will take it, especially in Champions League where you tend to get wiped out in 5 seconds or less.
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Post by locutis on Sept 20, 2021 0:39:48 GMT -5
This is great, but IMHO would really only work well with t4 or two t3 chips. I normally use my lockdown chips to complement pulsars, magnetars, coronas, etc. I am close to getting my first t4 lockdowner and might just try it on my jumping fireball ghost lance.
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Post by Jeb on Sept 20, 2021 8:12:14 GMT -5
I remember back in the day when it seemed as though lots of folks were hating on lock down weapons. I remember back in the day, bots didn't have 2-3 abilities and special effects out of the box. I like my Ravens but to keep them viable, I pretty much have to run shielding drones and add firepower effects to whatever meta weapons I can put on them. I also get a DR boost when I get locked down, so thanks to drones & chips for that tweak.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Sept 20, 2021 9:04:02 GMT -5
As a recipient, lockdown is annoying as heck and can be dangerous. But it just usually delays me from getting to one of "my" beacons and then I start laying down suppression when they try to take it from me. My vote is for suppression.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Sept 20, 2021 16:52:40 GMT -5
As a recipient, lockdown is annoying as heck and can be dangerous. But it just usually delays me from getting to one of "my" beacons and then I start laying down suppression when they try to take it from me. My vote is for suppression. Different horses for different courses. I think brawlers and beacon runners should run suppression, Lockdown on bulwark is to contain enemy beacon runners and stop them from getting to me in a hurry.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 17:41:53 GMT -5
As a recipient, lockdown is annoying as heck and can be dangerous. But it just usually delays me from getting to one of "my" beacons and then I start laying down suppression when they try to take it from me. My vote is for suppression. Different horses for different courses. I think brawlers and beacon runners should run suppression, Lockdown on bulwark is to contain enemy beacon runners and stop them from getting to me in a hurry. Good discussion. lockdown is for brawlers to keep Shell away. Max Shell will kill my brawlers and they are Mk3 but old. Fast bots can keep the distance so no need lockdown. tanks do not need lockdown like Fenrir and falcon. I just want to find a way for bulwark to survive longer against Shell. Most my stuff is mk2 or Mk3 or tier 3 chips. It is pretty high level so should do much better much more then 10% damage for being a counter to Shell. I choose lockdown chip because it can trigger more often. Lockdown module and jump module have long cooldown.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Sept 21, 2021 17:56:19 GMT -5
The legendary bulwark pilot Tobias Mwangi (or whatever his name is) brings the module cool down to a more reasonable time.
I don't have him though as I'm a staunch believer of only using power cells when it will really make a difference to the game outcome.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2021 4:26:15 GMT -5
The legendary bulwark pilot Tobias Mwangi (or whatever his name is) brings the module cool down to a more reasonable time. I don't have him though as I'm a staunch believer of only using power cells when it will really make a difference to the game outcome. After this thread, i see Tobias mocking me whenever I roll the silver chests. Open 50 this month. Good ol Toby is next to 100000 silver. ‘’I put in requisition to upgrade Toby’s ranking from D to B. But there is no belief. In the pilot ranking thread. I made intervention this month. I become addicted to PC. Down 25000 in couple weeks. Press heal to activate defense. Loads of shield breaker using on 3 my bots. Also press lots to boost damage chip so I can get more damage and score higher place. Imagine if I had Tobias and using him every 11s to get +80 defense. Whales get +160 defense more then Fenrir. Only 1s gap with +0 defense. good stuff.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Sept 30, 2021 17:34:35 GMT -5
The legendary bulwark pilot Tobias Mwangi (or whatever his name is) brings the module cool down to a more reasonable time. I don't have him though as I'm a staunch believer of only using power cells when it will really make a difference to the game outcome. After this thread, i see Tobias mocking me whenever I roll the silver chests. Open 50 this month. Good ol Toby is next to 100000 silver. ‘’I put in requisition to upgrade Toby’s ranking from D to B. But there is no belief. In the pilot ranking thread. I made intervention this month. I become addicted to PC. Down 25000 in couple weeks. Press heal to activate defense. Loads of shield breaker using on 3 my bots. Also press lots to boost damage chip so I can get more damage and score higher place. Imagine if I had Tobias and using him every 11s to get +80 defense. Whales get +160 defense more then Fenrir. Only 1s gap with +0 defense. good stuff. This month I've been trying for the bulwark paintjob for the health boost in the silver chest. What a let down.... It's near the 100000 silver as well and guess what you get 80% of the time? I decided to MK3 my bully instead. My first and only mk3 item so far. An extra 12k health and 10k to shields is worth it. All those overconfident Orochis with hel weapons get sent to scrap yard quick smart and fafnirs have a hard time cracking him even if rocking the stupid shieldbreaker pilot.
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