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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Sept 14, 2021 9:38:43 GMT -5
I just found out that flippin' Pix charges the USA more for the event tokens than other parts of the world. Why? Charge what the market will bear.
Why don't they just make the game 100% free for their russian brothers?
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Post by 079 on Sept 14, 2021 11:47:39 GMT -5
Price is influenced by demand. Pixonic price-hikes the US because it is sadly willing to pay more in both terms of money per purchase and amount of purchases. Capitalism likes to make consumers think that the good things in life are expensive…
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Sept 15, 2021 3:34:59 GMT -5
I've been getting $4 (Aussie dollar) offers for 400 bronze, 600 silver, 600 gold tokens the last couple of events.
That's not bad and pretty tempting but there's nothing in them that I really want. I have enough new weapons to level but not enough silver to go with them.
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Post by ironstar on Sept 15, 2021 4:34:53 GMT -5
I live in Denmark and I'm being consistently screwed over by whatever dodgy exchange rate Pixonic is utilizing. 1$ is 6.29 DKK in the real world. In Pixonic world it is anywhere between 7 and 8 DKK depending on the phase of the moon.
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Post by easystrider on Sept 26, 2021 13:48:35 GMT -5
I just found out that flippin' Pix charges the USA more for the event tokens than other parts of the world. Why? Charge what the market will bear. Why don't they just make the game 100% free for their russian brothers? I cannot find the thread, but one of the mods posted recently a link to Pixonic addressing that very issue. Pixonic's answer was that they don't set the local prices, they set it globally and Google/Apple translates them to local currency. I'm personally very skeptical that is the case, but that's what they were claiming.
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Post by 079 on Sept 26, 2021 14:27:24 GMT -5
I just found out that flippin' Pix charges the USA more for the event tokens than other parts of the world. Why? Charge what the market will bear. Why don't they just make the game 100% free for their russian brothers? I cannot find the thread, but one of the mods posted recently a link to Pixonic addressing that very issue. Pixonic's answer was that they don't set the local prices, they set it globally and Google/Apple translates them to local currency. I'm personally very skeptical that is the case, but that's what they were claiming. That plus the app store takes 30% of revenue from purchases, so companies need to charge more to make up for it. I think Pixonic’s post was on Reddit, but yeah, I cannot remember exactly.
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Post by Adazahi on Sept 26, 2021 21:19:01 GMT -5
Look guys, this has been a hotly discussed topic and I'd like to clear things up. This is not in defense of pix - they're still 「multiple dookie delivery chute」, but not in the way you think.
The reason lots of US players have been seeing more expensive prices than other countries is because US players spend more than most others, and Pix has a system specifically designed to squeeze as much money out of both high and low paying players as possible.
When the system sees you buying up a lot of offers, you start to get worse and worse offers, to the point that your offers are so incredibly bad you can be paying up to 5x more for 1/2 of the currency a f2p would be able to pay. When the system sees that you're willing to pay double price for half currency, it will only offer you double price for half currency. When it sees you're almost never willing to pay, it gives you incredibly good offers.
Incase you're wondering how I know this, not only did Pixonic's lead moneyman admit this on video to a group of investors (showing how good it was at squeezing us dry), but it can also be seen by comparing my baby account to my account to a whale's account.
A reddit user (who I assume to be a whale) showed his "evidence" of US players being hiked by showing that it costed him $25 for 4200 brown tokens of last event, wheras his friend in Finland was only charged $10. The funny thing was seeing how I, a US player, also had the $10 offer as opposed to the $25 offer, and for further proof, my f2p baby account got that same offer for $5!
So there you go. Want good offers? Put away those plane tickets to Finland and give Pix's expensive offers the finger! Put your wallet away until you're given an offer you're happy with. It will eventually go down so long as youre more stubborn than the system.
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Post by 079 on Sept 26, 2021 22:06:05 GMT -5
I took the time to dumpster dive for the Reddit thread that had Pixonic’s official response to this matter, and managed to find it: https://www.reddit.com/r/walkingwarrobots/comments/ppy716/community_update_13_74_is_coming_next_week_lags/ Here is the relevant excerpt: So there, the official (though possibly not truthful) explanation from Pixonic. All it unfortunately means to US players is that there is basically nothing that can be done to fix this and we will have to put up with it…
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Post by easystrider on Sept 26, 2021 22:18:52 GMT -5
... A reddit user (who I assume to be a whale) showed his "evidence" of US players being hiked by showing that it costed him $25 for 4200 brown tokens of last event, wheras his friend in Finland was only charged $10. The funny thing was seeing how I, a US player, also had the $10 offer as opposed to the $25 offer, and for further proof, my f2p baby account got that same offer for $5! ... As a side note, this should be very much illegal. Imagine going grocery shopping and being charged prices based on what you have spent in that store before.
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Post by easystrider on Sept 26, 2021 22:51:52 GMT -5
I took the time to dumpster dive for the Reddit thread that had Pixonic’s official response to this matter, and managed to find it: https://www.reddit.com/r/walkingwarrobots/comments/ppy716/community_update_13_74_is_coming_next_week_lags/ Here is the relevant excerpt: So there, the official (though possibly not truthful) explanation from Pixonic. All it unfortunately means to US players is that there is basically nothing that can be done to fix this and we will have to put up with it… Yea, it just simply doesn't pass the smell test. In one youtube video made for industry insiders they were pretty much bragging how they offer more expensive offers to big spenders and not offer cheaper offers. So they basically have an ability to set pricing not even based on a country, but pretty much down to individual player. And here they say "it's Apple's/Google's fault"? Ok, whatever. But this also would make proving it much more difficult because you'd need to find two players from different countries with identical spending patterns to prove country bias.
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Sept 26, 2021 23:27:14 GMT -5
You can’t base it off the offers section as those are individually tailored for each players spending habits, and the % off doesn’t add up correctly anyways. But the flat rate offers for coins or VIP could be compared. And when comparing you have to consider currency conversion and taxes.
The only game I’ve spent money on is Sky and they’re based in California as am I. When I buy the adventure pass I only pay the $9.99 it’s listed as but people in other countries pay more for the currency conversion and tax, I think even some other US states pay tax too. I think all international games have to deal with this and it’s left to the purchasing platforms to work out the final cost.
The question is, do these platforms even allow setting different prices for different places? Just checked and they can. So you just have to figure out the conversion rates to see how close the price in Russia compares to the US or Finland.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Sept 27, 2021 9:04:20 GMT -5
So there you go. Want good offers? Put away those plane tickets to Finland and give Pix's expensive offers the finger! Put your wallet away until you're given an offer you're happy with. It will eventually go down so long as youre more stubborn than the system. great post, tyvm. Retro Revenant? Yeah I want one but only at the cheapest token prices I guess I'll have to wait until the final days. I'm not paying these current ridiculous prices at the "chance' of getting one. The heck with that!
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