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Post by reconnecting on Sept 12, 2021 12:55:34 GMT -5
How does a player with 4 bots including Arachnos and 1150 sp get over 14000 points halfway through today's tournament? His bots/weapons are 3 star! What is going on here? This does not sound even close to being fair to most players. He stayed awake for 12 hours playing and guzzling caffeineated drinks? And he's still going at it. At this rate he will have 25000 points. What the heck? Oh, and he's in Grandmaster! 1150 sp? Really?    |
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Post by punishingcossack on Sept 12, 2021 15:04:53 GMT -5
How does a player with 4 bots including Arachnos and 1150 sp get over 14000 points halfway through today's tournament? His bots/weapons are 3 star! What is going on here? This does not sound even close to being fair to most players. He stayed awake for 12 hours playing and guzzling caffeineated drinks? And he's still going at it. At this rate he will have 25000 points. What the heck? Oh, and he's in Grandmaster! 1150 sp? Really? take a look at his tourney history, maybe there's something suspicious there |
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Sept 13, 2021 11:52:47 GMT -5
until they fix the brackets I really dont even try anymore.. I had better luck flipping to starting early to as close to the end as I can with all the new players.. but .... I also decided I value sleep more so honestly the past 3 tournaments I've played maybe ~12 battles through the whole thing.
I'd be curious how many tournaments they have been in they have kept their XP relatively low.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 13, 2021 12:21:05 GMT -5
He has pretty low XP... which means his opponents will be pushovers, for the most part, especially the AI. It is fairly easy to get 300 - 400 pts per match if you are familiar with the game, have even 1 decent build, against AI at that XP level. SP doesn't matter... only XP.
The problem with the way the Tourney is set up is that low XP players that can get great scores against AI that have low leveled Juggs and Paragons with PC 8 Killshot being the worst to contend with, will be placed in the same bracket as folk who have 200k XP and struggle to get 200 - 250 pts per match, against AI that can shoot you through a crack in the wall and use higher tier mechs and weapons, like Zep with Carbs, at 5 - 6 star rank. You can see how that will net an advantage for the Low XP player. The high XP player would have to play, nearly, twice as many games, on average, to keep up.
My guess is that, yes, constant caffeinated play for hours. Who knows why though, could be a try-hard, could be bed ridden and have nothing else to do...
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Post by Deadeye on Sept 13, 2021 13:14:22 GMT -5
He has pretty low XP... which means his opponents will be pushovers, for the most part, especially the AI. It is fairly easy to get 300 - 400 pts per match if you are familiar with the game, have even 1 decent build, against AI at that XP level. SP doesn't matter... only XP. The problem with the way the Tourney is set up is that low XP players that can get great scores against AI that have low leveled Juggs and Paragons with PC 8 Killshot being the worst to contend with, will be placed in the same bracket as folk who have 200k XP and struggle to get 200 - 250 pts per match, against AI that can shoot you through a crack in the wall and use higher tier mechs and weapons, like Zep with Carbs, at 5 - 6 star rank. You can see how that will net an advantage for the Low XP player. The high XP player would have to play, nearly, twice as many games, on average, to keep up. My guess is that, yes, constant caffeinated play for hours. Who knows why though, could be a try-hard, could be bed ridden and have nothing else to do... Don't do that to reconnecting ! He's trying to revel in his righteous indignation. You are NOT helping. Do NOT have sympothy for the person not on here to defend themselves. Joking aside, it is annoying. I haven't run into this yet, but I'm sure I will at some point. I think my tournament strategy is helping me avoid these people for now. You mentioned a "try-hard". Well classify me as a "care-less"...? Whatever name sticks, I haven't been in a Grandmaster heat in ages (if ever). It's only a matter of time, though, that all these new players start figuring out the hacks and tricks to working the system. If we're being honest though, the guys at the top have some leverage that those in the middle and bottom don't have. Many are in squads that can ensure an average return of points for their ticket investment. Also, dual RGs and dual RM12s don't hurt either (especially on yesterday's map). I had some wicked good games yesterday that were pretty easy to gain points from. The newbs definitely have an advantage...but how many of them know it? |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 13, 2021 16:03:14 GMT -5
He has pretty low XP... which means his opponents will be pushovers, for the most part, especially the AI. It is fairly easy to get 300 - 400 pts per match if you are familiar with the game, have even 1 decent build, against AI at that XP level. SP doesn't matter... only XP. The problem with the way the Tourney is set up is that low XP players that can get great scores against AI that have low leveled Juggs and Paragons with PC 8 Killshot being the worst to contend with, will be placed in the same bracket as folk who have 200k XP and struggle to get 200 - 250 pts per match, against AI that can shoot you through a crack in the wall and use higher tier mechs and weapons, like Zep with Carbs, at 5 - 6 star rank. You can see how that will net an advantage for the Low XP player. The high XP player would have to play, nearly, twice as many games, on average, to keep up. My guess is that, yes, constant caffeinated play for hours. Who knows why though, could be a try-hard, could be bed ridden and have nothing else to do... Don't do that to reconnecting ! He's trying to revel in his righteous indignation. You are NOT helping. Do NOT have sympothy for the person not on here to defend themselves. Joking aside, it is annoying. I haven't run into this yet, but I'm sure I will at some point. I think my tournament strategy is helping me avoid these people for now. You mentioned a "try-hard". Well classify me as a "care-less"...? Whatever name sticks, I haven't been in a Grandmaster heat in ages (if ever). It's only a matter of time, though, that all these new players start figuring out the hacks and tricks to working the system. If we're being honest though, the guys at the top have some leverage that those in the middle and bottom don't have. Many are in squads that can ensure an average return of points for their ticket investment. Also, dual RGs and dual RM12s don't hurt either (especially on yesterday's map). I had some wicked good games yesterday that were pretty easy to gain points from. The newbs definitely have an advantage... but how many of them know it?EDIT: My bad for ruining the carefree fun! We all need a little indignation in our lives and I should not have ruined his... I am ashamed... 
RE: the bold text: Guess I should  to keep it that way a bit longer lol.
You mention squadding... IMO, squadding tournament is usually only good for the top 1 or 2 people on the squad, in terms of points. Especially if anyone on the team is all about "getting all the killsssss". I basically stop worrying about score when I squad and just try and have fun. I may end up first, but I may end up last, and IDC either way. I def don't get a good average in points when I squad, though. Partly my propensity to lean towards support in that scenario is to blame, too.
Solo is my try-to-get-high-scores method for Tourney... depending on the time of day. If it's outside of prime time, I can get 275 - 310 pretty regularly (but def not every game!) with 15 kills or so, against AI or a solo Human that isn't up to par. Prime time I won't even try, if solo. Squadding during this time is great though, b/c you are more likely to face another squad. Sucks when it is a maxed squad, of course, but when the hangars are equal(ish), it's mad fun.
I probably have a lazy way of doing it... I try to get one or two games in early in the day to enter a bracket that is most likely full of people playing in their prime time, then maybe a game or two at lunch, then reassess the scores when I play later that night. Usually the entire bracket is asleep by then. Since I would most likely be squadding at night, I just play and then take wherever I land in the standings. I haven't tried to win very often, but when I have, the leaders are usually in the 1 - 2k range, so not hard to catch up.
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Post by Munki on Sept 13, 2021 16:07:18 GMT -5
Had Grandmaster on Saturday and Sunday. Saturday was won with almost 13000 points. Sunday was just over 6000. Most players are 1000 games or less in the brackets I had. Start times may be a factor but I started Sunday earlier than Saturday.
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Post by reconnecting on Sept 13, 2021 16:54:37 GMT -5
He has pretty low XP... which means his opponents will be pushovers, for the most part, especially the AI. It is fairly easy to get 300 - 400 pts per match if you are familiar with the game, have even 1 decent build, against AI at that XP level. SP doesn't matter... only XP. The problem with the way the Tourney is set up is that low XP players that can get great scores against AI that have low leveled Juggs and Paragons with PC 8 Killshot being the worst to contend with, will be placed in the same bracket as folk who have 200k XP and struggle to get 200 - 250 pts per match, against AI that can shoot you through a crack in the wall and use higher tier mechs and weapons, like Zep with Carbs, at 5 - 6 star rank. You can see how that will net an advantage for the Low XP player. The high XP player would have to play, nearly, twice as many games, on average, to keep up. My guess is that, yes, constant caffeinated play for hours. Who knows why though, could be a try-hard, could be bed ridden and have nothing else to do... Yeah we really don't know his situation, but this has happened regularly since the global release. Tricky48 describes the issue pretty well here. |
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Post by frunobulax on Sept 17, 2021 8:10:50 GMT -5
He has pretty low XP... which means his opponents will be pushovers, for the most part, especially the AI. It is fairly easy to get 300 - 400 pts per match if you are familiar with the game, have even 1 decent build, against AI at that XP level. SP doesn't matter... only XP. The problem with the way the Tourney is set up is that low XP players that can get great scores against AI that have low leveled Juggs and Paragons with PC 8 Killshot being the worst to contend with, will be placed in the same bracket as folk who have 200k XP and struggle to get 200 - 250 pts per match, against AI that can shoot you through a crack in the wall and use higher tier mechs and weapons, like Zep with Carbs, at 5 - 6 star rank. You can see how that will net an advantage for the Low XP player. The high XP player would have to play, nearly, twice as many games, on average, to keep up. My guess is that, yes, constant caffeinated play for hours. Who knows why though, could be a try-hard, could be bed ridden and have nothing else to do... IDK. My new account has similar XP levels and while I get 250-300 points a match if I win early on, that production shrinks once I start to accumulate points. I once played in the final minutes of the tournament because I woke up very early and was ~300 points from a better reward, and got crushed by 6-star mechs.
(Mind you, the highest tourney score ever had was something like 2000 -- being in the wrong timezone means I will always be relegated down to 4th place or lower while I sleep, so it's totally pointless to grind like a crazed hamster.)
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Post by reconnecting on Sept 17, 2021 14:41:29 GMT -5
I've had enough. So I sent a message to Support, for whatever good it does. At least I got it out there.  |
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Post by reconnecting on Sept 17, 2021 15:03:09 GMT -5
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Post by reconnecting on Oct 4, 2021 12:37:43 GMT -5
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Post by reconnecting on Oct 4, 2021 12:43:14 GMT -5
Oh, and he ended the tournament with over 5100 points.  |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 4, 2021 15:06:35 GMT -5
Yeah... it really sucks the way that they have "tournament" structured.
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to keep it that way a bit longer lol.
