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Post by Jeb on Sept 9, 2021 7:45:41 GMT -5
Ruined by a blue team Sharanga phasing your target out right as you commence firing.  Crappy ability. I sold my Sharanga rather than use it. |
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Post by spectre729 on Sept 9, 2021 8:06:21 GMT -5
still waiting for the day where an enemy sharanga phase me while im reloading and by the time the phase is over, i can kill whoever is in front of me
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Post by Loganspawn on Sept 9, 2021 8:26:30 GMT -5
still waiting for the day where an enemy sharanga phase me while im reloading and by the time the phase is over, i can kill whoever is in front of me I will tell you playing in Champ against top clans or players when solo, they target me out of every other red 99% of the time. One more reason I am not playing much. Locked, EMP, Exiled etc etc etc over and over. So fun when they have multiple Titans hitting me with this magical garbage over and over while the rest of my team has already botted or is hiding because they are in Master or below fighting full blown Moby 「wee-wee」 whales. I will never understand how my team of rando's has me as champ and the rest masters and below while the red team is a duo squad or more of S clan whale champs over and over. Sometimes the reds are not in squad but still lopsided. |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Sept 9, 2021 9:07:55 GMT -5
still waiting for the day where an enemy sharanga phase me while im reloading and by the time the phase is over, i can kill whoever is in front of me I will tell you playing in Champ against top clans or players when solo, they target me out of every other red 99% of the time. One more reason I am not playing much. Locked, EMP, Exiled etc etc etc over and over. So fun when they have multiple Titans hitting me with this magical garbage over and over while the rest of my team has already botted or is hiding because they are in Master or below fighting full blown Moby 「wee-wee」 whales. I will never understand how my team of rando's has me as champ and the rest masters and below while the red team is a duo squad or more of S clan whale champs over and over. Sometimes the reds are not in squad but still lopsided. Change your IGN? Might help... |
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Post by Loganspawn on Sept 9, 2021 11:52:11 GMT -5
I will tell you playing in Champ against top clans or players when solo, they target me out of every other red 99% of the time. One more reason I am not playing much. Locked, EMP, Exiled etc etc etc over and over. So fun when they have multiple Titans hitting me with this magical garbage over and over while the rest of my team has already botted or is hiding because they are in Master or below fighting full blown Moby 「wee-wee」 whales. I will never understand how my team of rando's has me as champ and the rest masters and below while the red team is a duo squad or more of S clan whale champs over and over. Sometimes the reds are not in squad but still lopsided. Change your IGN? Might help... Nope they need to fix the dookie game instead and not place a bunch of krill on one team and whales on the other. I like being seen, I have a big name in all caps for a reason. In the old days before skins gave a bonus I bought them just to stand out as well. I dont mind and even like being targeted but only if the teams are not totally lopsided to begin with. ETA also as you know the clan tag will draw fire itself. We have been around near the top for a number of years.... Its like when I see a VOX, NEXT or Godz player, my thinking is I need to deal with that guy! |
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Post by Eradicator1 on Sept 9, 2021 12:11:43 GMT -5
One game last week. Over and over and over again. I wanted to smack that player. One of the reasons I shelved that bot too.
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Post by 079 on Sept 9, 2021 12:59:03 GMT -5
People were discussing using Phase Exile to help kill steal for the destroy bots event task, so it may be that. I actually really like the ability as it is really useful to disable a problematic red (particularly Hawks and Ao Juns during ability) but yeah, it really needs to be used correctly. Sharangas need to read the situation and determine if Phase Exile is appropriate rather than just spam it, which many do not do…
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 9, 2021 15:04:59 GMT -5
People were discussing using Phase Exile to help kill steal for the destroy bots event task, so it may be that. I actually really like the ability as it is really useful to disable a problematic red (particularly Hawks and Ao Juns during ability) but yeah, it really needs to be used correctly. Sharangas need to read the situation and determine if Phase Exile is appropriate rather than just spam it, which many do not do… Unfortunately, many people are either selfish or oblivious when it comes to games like this.
Unless they are in a Clan that promotes good behavior or are tactically minded, what they can do that helps them... they will. And either be damned the other blues or they think of you as an NPC.
"It's just a game" is a common excuse whenever these things come up. And the counter "yes, but it's a TEAM game that comes alive when all are working together..." doesn't sway a 20 year old with stats on their mind and a light wallet because they just spent their last paycheck on the latest doodad.
Infuriatingly simple ideas like, "be aware of the beacon bar" and "cover your teammate" are ignored in favor of sitting in a Treb Butch and hammering away from behind Home Beacon the entire match. "Look at my damage! I'm swell!"
It's like that in most games like this, though, from CoD Mobile to Battle Bay to War Robots, people that actively put the team, and therefore the W, in front of their stats are rare.
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Post by 079 on Sept 9, 2021 17:41:23 GMT -5
People were discussing using Phase Exile to help kill steal for the destroy bots event task, so it may be that. I actually really like the ability as it is really useful to disable a problematic red (particularly Hawks and Ao Juns during ability) but yeah, it really needs to be used correctly. Sharangas need to read the situation and determine if Phase Exile is appropriate rather than just spam it, which many do not do… Unfortunately, many people are either selfish or oblivious when it comes to games like this.
Unless they are in a Clan that promotes good behavior or are tactically minded, what they can do that helps them... they will. And either be damned the other blues or they think of you as an NPC.
"It's just a game" is a common excuse whenever these things come up. And the counter "yes, but it's a TEAM game that comes alive when all are working together..." doesn't sway a 20 year old with stats on their mind and a light wallet because they just spent their last paycheck on the latest doodad.
Infuriatingly simple ideas like, "be aware of the beacon bar" and "cover your teammate" are ignored in favor of sitting in a Treb Butch and hammering away from behind Home Beacon the entire match. "Look at my damage! I'm swell!"
It's like that in most games like this, though, from CoD Mobile to Battle Bay to War Robots, people that actively put the team, and therefore the W, in front of their stats are rare.
You’re absolutely right in that players will use this ability for self-gain rather than for the team, but I feel that throwing Sharanga under the bus is a little unfair. It’s a good ability on paper that unfortunately has bad implications, and Sharanga is not the only bot with this issue. Jumping/flying bots or Scorpion can swoop in to kill steal, and sniper builds can do the same. And on a different note, Hellburner was a preferred bot for league tanking when it’s ability did self-damage. Sharanga is far from alone, and even if it is the most prolific offender, it’s not necessarily its fault, so I’m defending it! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 19:56:05 GMT -5
Unfortunately, many people are either selfish or oblivious when it comes to games like this.
Unless they are in a Clan that promotes good behavior or are tactically minded, what they can do that helps them... they will. And either be damned the other blues or they think of you as an NPC.
"It's just a game" is a common excuse whenever these things come up. And the counter "yes, but it's a TEAM game that comes alive when all are working together..." doesn't sway a 20 year old with stats on their mind and a light wallet because they just spent their last paycheck on the latest doodad.
Infuriatingly simple ideas like, "be aware of the beacon bar" and "cover your teammate" are ignored in favor of sitting in a Treb Butch and hammering away from behind Home Beacon the entire match. "Look at my damage! I'm swell!"
It's like that in most games like this, though, from CoD Mobile to Battle Bay to War Robots, people that actively put the team, and therefore the W, in front of their stats are rare.
You’re absolutely right in that players will use this ability for self-gain rather than for the team, but I feel that throwing Sharanga under the bus is a little unfair. It’s a good ability on paper that unfortunately has bad implications, and Sharanga is not the only bot with this issue. Jumping/flying bots or Scorpion can swoop in to kill steal, and sniper builds can do the same. And on a different note, Hellburner was a preferred bot for league tanking when it’s ability did self-damage. Sharanga is far from alone, and even if it is the most prolific offender, it’s not necessarily its fault, so I’m defending it! I like Sharanga and Nodens, but both require thinking and sit awareness……As far as attitude with using ability for personal gain? Grow up, ALL abilities are for personal gain, and besides….if your not in a big squad, do you really believe your on a “team”? Seriously! |
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Post by 079 on Sept 9, 2021 20:31:03 GMT -5
You’re absolutely right in that players will use this ability for self-gain rather than for the team, but I feel that throwing Sharanga under the bus is a little unfair. It’s a good ability on paper that unfortunately has bad implications, and Sharanga is not the only bot with this issue. Jumping/flying bots or Scorpion can swoop in to kill steal, and sniper builds can do the same. And on a different note, Hellburner was a preferred bot for league tanking when it’s ability did self-damage. Sharanga is far from alone, and even if it is the most prolific offender, it’s not necessarily its fault, so I’m defending it! I like Sharanga and Nodens, but both require thinking and sit awareness……As far as attitude with using ability for personal gain? Grow up, ALL abilities are for personal gain, and besides….if your not in a big squad, do you really believe your on a “team”? Seriously! You could say that, but there definitely are ways to use bot abilities in ways that may help you but overall hurt your team’s efficiency, such as Phase Exiling a red that teammates were about to kill so you can kill steal. Sure all abilities are to help the user, but one should coordinate with his/her team to maximize the odds for victory. And yes, I do believe randoms are a team, as they are all working collectively towards the same goal and each have their role to play. If people on that team realize this, the team will perform better. Not believing in the team will kill the team! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 20:38:39 GMT -5
I like Sharanga and Nodens, but both require thinking and sit awareness……As far as attitude with using ability for personal gain? Grow up, ALL abilities are for personal gain, and besides….if your not in a big squad, do you really believe your on a “team”? Seriously! You could say that, but there definitely are ways to use bot abilities in ways that may help you but overall hurt your team’s efficiency, such as Phase Exiling a red that teammates were about to kill so you can kill steal. Sure all abilities are to help the user, but one should coordinate with his/her team to maximize the odds for victory. And yes, I do believe randoms are a team, as they are all working collectively towards the same goal and each have their role to play. If people on that team realize this, the team will perform better. Not believing in the team will kill the team! I disagree about the team/rando thing. MM decides well in advance how things go, and teammates tanking or leaving are not teammates to begin worth. A full clan squad is a team, period. As for abilities, explain howI am to know you are ready to take down a red when I consider or pull the trigger on Exile? A full clan squad on coms is a team, and can coordinate efforts. Randos cannot, therefore do not meet the definition of team. Rando play is dog eat dog, so as I said, grow up and deal. It is what it is. Sometimes there is “team” play during rando battles, but not much. Randos have no clue what each player might do, don’t practice nor communicate together….yet, I still sport a 50% win rate. Go figure? |
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Post by 079 on Sept 9, 2021 23:07:58 GMT -5
From what I have experienced running my Sharanga, it does require some assumptions on your part and therefore everyone messes up from time to time, but it is not rocket science in my opinion. Obviously if some robot has its god mode activated (Hawk/Ao Jun/Fafnir flying, Pantheon/Demeter with shield up, Scorpion pouncing a blue, etc) and the blues do not appear to be able to effectively retaliate, than Exile the red. I find most times I use Exile for something like that, but of course more complex situations arise. Usually I observe the engagement to determine if the blue needs assistance or not, with cues to Exile the red being the blue running out of its ability or weapon ammo, or the blue is trying to retreat. Like I said, I bet I inadvertently cause headaches for blues sometimes, but I feel I use my Exile right a lot too. Well, perhaps coordination is the wrong word for what I am describing. Yes, randoms will not be able to achieve the team play of a squad on comms, but that definitely does not mean randoms cannot team play at all. Just like with Phase Exile, players have to make assumptions based on information from battlefield observation, but it still is doable. Stuff like if a blue is heading towards a beacon means they will capture it so you should go do something else, pushing an undefended red flank, or reinforcing a blue struggling to defend a beacon I find randoms to understand a surprising amount of the time. And if nobody is doing these, then I try to do it myself and be a good teammate. Sure, maybe I just am exceptionally patient or have a lot of immature hope and need to “grow up”, but I personally do not think I am consistently matched with incompetent randoms, and defeat comes from my team being outgunned or the reds making a really good play. |
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Post by Alphabet Soup on Sept 9, 2021 23:59:49 GMT -5
still waiting for the day where an enemy sharanga phase me while im reloading and by the time the phase is over, i can kill whoever is in front of me I will tell you playing in Champ against top clans or players when solo, they target me out of every other red 99% of the time. One more reason I am not playing much. Locked, EMP, Exiled etc etc etc over and over. So fun when they have multiple Titans hitting me with this magical garbage over and over while the rest of my team has already botted or is hiding because they are in Master or below fighting full blown Moby 「wee-wee」 whales. I will never understand how my team of rando's has me as champ and the rest masters and below while the red team is a duo squad or more of S clan whale champs over and over. Sometimes the reds are not in squad but still lopsided. Dont forget the latest Drone crap... Shoot them, Shield, Shoot them, Shield, Shoot them...and shield... |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 10, 2021 13:11:11 GMT -5
You’re absolutely right in that players will use this ability for self-gain rather than for the team, but I feel that throwing Sharanga under the bus is a little unfair. It’s a good ability on paper that unfortunately has bad implications, and Sharanga is not the only bot with this issue. Jumping/flying bots or Scorpion can swoop in to kill steal, and sniper builds can do the same. And on a different note, Hellburner was a preferred bot for league tanking when it’s ability did self-damage. Sharanga is far from alone, and even if it is the most prolific offender, it’s not necessarily its fault, so I’m defending it! I like Sharanga and Nodens, but both require thinking and sit awareness……As far as attitude with using ability for personal gain? Grow up, ALL abilities are for personal gain, and besides….if your not in a big squad, do you really believe your on a “team”? Seriously! See... this is what I am saying. "grow up" is your response to enjoying team play in a team game, even with randoms. Point made.
Thing is, the point I brought up about folk saying "it's just a game" is also valid... you are not in the wrong for playing your way with your stats and bot's livelihood the only concern. What I get out of it is not what someone else gets out of it, and neither are wrong.
I play these games with the idea of it being a team game. One of the reasons I gravitate towards support roles when they are very rarely rewarded is to further that concept.
IDGAF about stats. IDGAF about being top.
I like the experience of folk working together to beat the other team. Period. And yes, it does happen occasionally with Randoms. In War Robots it was common the first couple of years I played, but as the player population shifted to what it is now, that declined.
In MA, if you get live players on your team, it's still a crapshoot. Player population is still growing, though, so maybe it will go the right direction. I know I will protect my side, whether AI or human, whenever I can. Including using my ability no matter the cooldown, to do so, even if I am moving to another position and won't benefit, personally, from doing so.
I was big into simulation games as a kid, served in the military as a young adult, and all that emphasis on real life tactics and teamwork stuck with me. In most cases (unless p2w factors are off the charts) a team of 5 that is actively working together, even without comms, will beat a team of 5 where they are all soloing. Granted, there are people who just have more skill than anyone else they fight... I know of a couple in my clan in MA that probably get reported for cheating they are so damn good, and they regularly beat actual squads... but they are the exception. There is just way more fun, for me, when a win comes based on team tactics that require working for each other, rather than each person soloing.
It's not about growing up.
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Post by 079 on Sept 10, 2021 16:12:39 GMT -5
ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 gee, nice post! I completely agree that the game is a lot better when it is treated as a team game than a organized chaos. The team aspect of the game is why I always run a healer in my hangar. Sure, healers are good because they earn lots of honor and can quickly fill the titan bar, but it is just so satisfying to me to help blues with some heals! Some of my best War Robots memories are when I’m in my Weyland in TDM and literally all 5 blues crowd around me for the heals, even directly defending me when a red tries to take me out. The sense of unity is unreal and makes for a great battle, even if my team looses.
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Post by wrmechanoid01 on Sept 10, 2021 16:48:50 GMT -5
I’m in bronze 1 now and I had my match ruined by a squad of expert 2 players with revenant and acid weapons as well as mk2 bots
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 17:55:11 GMT -5
I like Sharanga and Nodens, but both require thinking and sit awareness……As far as attitude with using ability for personal gain? Grow up, ALL abilities are for personal gain, and besides….if your not in a big squad, do you really believe your on a “team”? Seriously! See... this is what I am saying. "grow up" is your response to enjoying team play in a team game, even with randoms. Point made.
Thing is, the point I brought up about folk saying "it's just a game" is also valid... you are not in the wrong for playing your way with your stats and bot's livelihood the only concern. What I get out of it is not what someone else gets out of it, and neither are wrong.
I play these games with the idea of it being a team game. One of the reasons I gravitate towards support roles when they are very rarely rewarded is to further that concept.
IDGAF about stats. IDGAF about being top.
I like the experience of folk working together to beat the other team. Period. And yes, it does happen occasionally with Randoms. In War Robots it was common the first couple of years I played, but as the player population shifted to what it is now, that declined.
In MA, if you get live players on your team, it's still a crapshoot. Player population is still growing, though, so maybe it will go the right direction. I know I will protect my side, whether AI or human, whenever I can. Including using my ability no matter the cooldown, to do so, even if I am moving to another position and won't benefit, personally, from doing so.
I was big into simulation games as a kid, served in the military as a young adult, and all that emphasis on real life tactics and teamwork stuck with me. In most cases (unless p2w factors are off the charts) a team of 5 that is actively working together, even without comms, will beat a team of 5 where they are all soloing. Granted, there are people who just have more skill than anyone else they fight... I know of a couple in my clan in MA that probably get reported for cheating they are so damn good, and they regularly beat actual squads... but they are the exception. There is just way more fun, for me, when a win comes based on team tactics that require working for each other, rather than each person soloing.
It's not about growing up.
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Post by Poopface on Sept 11, 2021 8:47:54 GMT -5
I will tell you playing in Champ against top clans or players when solo, they target me out of every other red 99% of the time. One more reason I am not playing much. Locked, EMP, Exiled etc etc etc over and over. So fun when they have multiple Titans hitting me with this magical garbage over and over while the rest of my team has already botted or is hiding because they are in Master or below fighting full blown Moby 「wee-wee」 whales. I will never understand how my team of rando's has me as champ and the rest masters and below while the red team is a duo squad or more of S clan whale champs over and over. Sometimes the reds are not in squad but still lopsided. These are but a few of the reasons I haven't updated to the latest patch. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2021 10:00:52 GMT -5
I will tell you playing in Champ against top clans or players when solo, they target me out of every other red 99% of the time. One more reason I am not playing much. Locked, EMP, Exiled etc etc etc over and over. So fun when they have multiple Titans hitting me with this magical garbage over and over while the rest of my team has already botted or is hiding because they are in Master or below fighting full blown Moby 「wee-wee」 whales. I will never understand how my team of rando's has me as champ and the rest masters and below while the red team is a duo squad or more of S clan whale champs over and over. Sometimes the reds are not in squad but still lopsided. These are but a few of the reasons I haven't updated to the latest patch. Strange….when Pix drops a patch on iOS, for me, at least, I can’t log in until I update…. |
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Post by Poopface on Sept 12, 2021 19:19:55 GMT -5
These are but a few of the reasons I haven't updated to the latest patch. Strange….when Pix drops a patch on iOS, for me, at least, I can’t log in until I update…. Who said I logged in? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 19:22:30 GMT -5
Strange….when Pix drops a patch on iOS, for me, at least, I can’t log in until I update…. Who said I logged in? True, that…. |
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Post by Loganspawn on Sept 13, 2021 8:28:05 GMT -5
Strange….when Pix drops a patch on iOS, for me, at least, I can’t log in until I update…. Who said I logged in? LOL that was the first thing I thought, that you haven't played since the update. You are not missing much and the few games I play now are meh. The new space ships are already being used to good effect by whales I play against having the ship with shields to shield their new ubber titans when the stealth comes off. Dookie show to me. I refuse to do anything with space ships. |
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Post by Poopface on Sept 14, 2021 17:13:25 GMT -5
LOL that was the first thing I thought, that you haven't played since the update. You are not missing much and the few games I play now are meh. The new space ships are already being used to good effect by whales I play against having the ship with shields to shield their new ubber titans when the stealth comes off. Dookie show to me. I refuse to do anything with space ships. Youâve said nothing to change my opinion. The game had taken a few steps to decent further into 「dookie」 show territory before the update. This space ship crap......no thanks. |
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Post by Jeb on Sept 15, 2021 21:50:34 GMT -5
LOL that was the first thing I thought, that you haven't played since the update. You are not missing much and the few games I play now are meh. The new space ships are already being used to good effect by whales I play against having the ship with shields to shield their new ubber titans when the stealth comes off. Dookie show to me. I refuse to do anything with space ships. Youâve said nothing to change my opinion. The game had taken a few steps to decent further into 「dookie」 show territory before the update. This space ship crap......no thanks. It's not really that bad. If you have good tactical sense and situational awareness, you can make some things happen with the basic mothership, but on the other hand, I don't think I've been taken out by one yet. |
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Post by Taboga73 on Sept 16, 2021 4:10:46 GMT -5
I will tell you playing in Champ against top clans or players when solo, they target me out of every other red 99% of the time. One more reason I am not playing much. Locked, EMP, Exiled etc etc etc over and over. So fun when they have multiple Titans hitting me with this magical garbage over and over while the rest of my team has already botted or is hiding because they are in Master or below fighting full blown Moby 「wee-wee」 whales. I will never understand how my team of rando's has me as champ and the rest masters and below while the red team is a duo squad or more of S clan whale champs over and over. Sometimes the reds are not in squad but still lopsided. Change your IGN? Might help... I’ve foolishly tried that option to no avail. Top Clans/Players will observe the field & select the Red(s) that will interfere with their efficiency. It’s the curse of standing out. I’ve had situations in which 50+% of the team is engaged with me & I have hopes that my fellow Blues are taking advantage of this opportunity. In reality, a good deal are sipping on margaritas or washing their bots. WTH - more than enough time to grab a beacon or two and/or eliminate the leftover Reds. |
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Post by Poopface on Sept 16, 2021 14:30:40 GMT -5
Youâve said nothing to change my opinion. The game had taken a few steps to decent further into 「dookie」 show territory before the update. This space ship crap......no thanks. It's not really that bad. If you have good tactical sense and situational awareness, you can make some things happen with the basic mothership, but on the other hand, I don't think I've been taken out by one yet. I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to imply the spaceship stuff is my sole gripe. I was already annoyed by the current state of the game before 7.3 came out, particularly with the gross overabundance of the PPBs. The patch with the spaceship stuff was the last straw for me right now. |
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Post by perky on Sept 18, 2021 12:07:14 GMT -5
Logan...you described my War Robots experience to a T since remastered. No clue why im top dog vs S clan duos CONSTANTLY!!! GODZ...KOMM..IRON STARS...OMEGA...the list goes on n on. And to add insult to injury mm throws anothe S clan whale on their team. Since remastered ive walled in 30%-40% win rate for the vast majority of the time...only to come for air at 56% for a day or two. Its odd bcuz i dont think all players get the same treatment.
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Post by CarlosDanger on Sept 19, 2021 15:26:16 GMT -5
Sharanga is invaluable for killing reds tasks. I think you will find selling it was a mistake.
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Post by Jeb on Sept 19, 2021 18:52:07 GMT -5
Sharanga is invaluable for killing reds tasks. I think you will find selling it was a mistake. I've got a Level 135 Kid, so...  |
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