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Post by hi5 on Apr 1, 2017 9:22:57 GMT -5
 Was in diamond III, placed in diamond III. No extra gold. Yep, that was my experience with diamond 2 / diamond 2. So now we have seen a screenshot. Will someone late to the conversation who screenshots or video captures their game a lot show us the other version, where they got rewarded for qualifying into a league they had previously placed in? Would be best to know gold before and after too. Or can a tanker confirm they are getting rewarded again as they move up this week? Not that tabkers are to be trusted because the forum doesn't have a way to enforce a no lying policy, so obviously lying is a legitimate use of the forum. -Amid I don't have complete photo evidence. iOS and qualified into D3 thirty days ago, moved up to middle of D2 by end of thirty days (2550-2600, not certain), ended season and got 120 au, started new season and did not receive any au. Photo of league end reward, before qualification was completed.  photo of league placement after qualification, no reward received and I have images of the main hangar before and after so I'm certain (9 au difference due to 5 game qualification earnings)  |
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Post by Thumpmonkey1 on Apr 1, 2017 9:50:58 GMT -5
So we still don't have anyone who has actually qualified for a league that's lower than their previous best, then moved up to a league they were previously in and got the advancement award a second time? Because I'm gonna chuckle if I'm right, you don't get paid for advancing to a league you've been at already, and all this has been a tempest in a teapot  |
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Post by frunobulax on Apr 1, 2017 10:44:31 GMT -5
Wow now I know what to spend all my wsp on. 5 lvl 1 stalkers with lvl 1 mags to alternate with my regular hanger. I'd bet I'll see quite a lot of squads with 5 Cossacks now that league payout is over. |
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Post by zer00eyz on Apr 1, 2017 10:50:47 GMT -5
So we still don't have anyone who has actually qualified for a league that's lower than their previous best, then moved up to a league they were previously in and got the advancement award a second time? Because I'm gonna chuckle if I'm right, you don't get paid for advancing to a league you've been at already, and all this has been a tempest in a teapot I was in sliver 1 about 2 weeks ago... I finished firmly in sliver II --- My screen shows a gold reward for promoting to sliver I will happily respond when I get back up there. As soon as I'm done verifying that there isn't a reward for moving down I will move back up. I would also like to note, that I saw "reward for sliver I" hours before the season ended.... it was like the whole thing got reset early. |
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Post by cakeordeath on Apr 1, 2017 10:56:25 GMT -5
Has anyone actually gotten the reward for moving up to a previously attained league? Or are we assuming that because it says the next league is 80 gold or whatever that we'll actually get paid when we move up? Because I wouldn't put it past Pix to have the posted reward for leagues show up the same for everyone, and then do a payout check when you get there to see if you already got it... I peaked in just into Gold 2 last week. Got the 90 au. I had a rough week and dropped into the upper part of Gold 3. Got 80au at the end of season. Qualified for the new season. Gold 3 again. 80au again. The 90 au bonus for going to Gold 2 has reset. I'm not getting the post-drop message about already having earned that reward. |
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Post by amidf on Apr 1, 2017 11:09:31 GMT -5
Has anyone actually gotten the reward for moving up to a previously attained league? Or are we assuming that because it says the next league is 80 gold or whatever that we'll actually get paid when we move up? Because I wouldn't put it past Pix to have the posted reward for leagues show up the same for everyone, and then do a payout check when you get there to see if you already got it... I peaked in just into Gold 2 last week. Got the 90 au. I had a rough week and dropped into the upper part of Gold 3. Got 80au at the end of season. Qualified for the new season. Gold 3 again. 80au again. The 90 au bonus for going to Gold 2 has reset. I'm not getting the post-drop message about already having earned that reward. Seems quite random. -Amid |
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Post by Replicant on Apr 1, 2017 11:29:46 GMT -5
iOS:
Last season I placed into D3. During the season I'moved up to D1 and then oscillated between D1 and D2. Received cumulative rewards for placing into D3 and the one-time rewards for hitting D2 and D1. At the end of last season I received a payout of 130 gold. Played my five "qualifying matches" and placed into D1 (as expected if qualifying matches are just regular play). On qualifying I received another 130 gold. It is possible that my league score may have dipped below D1/2900 during the qualifiers as I was at 2930ish at the end of the season and I lost three of the qualifiers (getting matched against 12/12's and having a tanker on your side is awesome).
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Post by cakeordeath on Apr 1, 2017 11:35:13 GMT -5
I peaked in just into Gold 2 last week. Got the 90 au. I had a rough week and dropped into the upper part of Gold 3. Got 80au at the end of season. Qualified for the new season. Gold 3 again. 80au again. The 90 au bonus for going to Gold 2 has reset. I'm not getting the post-drop message about already having earned that reward. Seems quite random. -Amid Given what people are saying, yeah. That said, I don't think the combined end of season plus qualifying bonus ends up going too bad as a reward. I'm not really about to complain about 160 free gold in a day as a reward for just playing normally. It is a bit silly to fully reset league upgrade rewards because that only rewards tankers. Resetting one or even two below the player's top performance isn't so bad. |
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Post by Golden Sabre on Apr 1, 2017 12:24:50 GMT -5
Gold for dropping a tier   |
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Post by ΜØØSE on Apr 1, 2017 12:50:09 GMT -5
Gold for dropping a tier I just got gold for dropping a tier, too. Last week I was in Silver III. I made it to Silver II Just before the season ended. I got the Silver II reward at the end of season, even though that was my original place when leagues began. I just finished my five qualifying matches, lost most of them and got the gold reward for placing in Silver III. This whole thing is asinine. The reward system definitely benefits those who tank matches the last part of a league season and climb back up for the first part of the next. Meanwhile, Pixonic is "aware of the problem", said they would temporarily isolate tankers weeks ago, didn't actually do it, communicated horribly about it, said this week they would improve communication, told us they would start isolating tankers Thursday, Thursday said they couldn't do it yet, and two days later... No communication, nothing done about tankers. We've handed them cases on a silver platter of obvious tankers that 「fluffernutter」 honest players over daily on the way down and on the way back up. And not only are they committed to dealing with the issue in a way that doesn't work and they are failing to execute, it is insufficient motivation in the first place. I hope they are enjoying the money I spent on this game, because I'm not. |
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Post by zer00eyz on Apr 1, 2017 14:55:54 GMT -5
So I'm trying REALY hard to demote gracefully, giving my team a chance but just loosing.... and it isn't working because the concentration of special needs people seems to be on reds (GET THE BEACONS RED)
So I hand the phone to my 10 year old:
Me: Son I need you to loose about 10 games in a row I can't do it any more
Son: Why do you want to loose
Me: I think they pay you for loosing
Son: Thats ?firetruck?ing stupid (hands me back the phone in a refusal to participate in said stupidity)
My 10 year old thinks its dumb, and I didn't even yell at him for swearing because he's ?firetruck?ing right
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Post by rocklobster on Apr 1, 2017 17:51:04 GMT -5
During March league I made it to Gold 1. I dropped back down to Gold 2 before the league ended.
I qualified in Gold 2 for the April league (received no placement gold) and my game says I have already received my bonus for Gold 1 and will not receive another.
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Post by zer00eyz on Apr 1, 2017 18:07:20 GMT -5
Last month: started in bronze, by mid month was in silver I.
I ended the month in silver II.
Just went down to silver III and received no gold for silver III (so no payout for me going down now, after having qualifiers)
I will try to get up to silver I again and see if I get paid for that. The screen says I will...
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Post by llama4president on Apr 1, 2017 18:19:21 GMT -5
Last month: started in bronze, by mid month was in silver I. I ended the month in silver II. Just went down to silver III and received no gold for silver III (so no payout for me going down now, after having qualifiers) I will try to get up to silver I again and see if I get paid for that. The screen says I will... thanks for the test, but as was said before, the league rewards that got reset are only the ones that are above the league you qualified at the end of the month. downward league don't have a reward (i saw it myself). i hope they fix this soon. |
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Post by zer00eyz on Apr 1, 2017 18:21:47 GMT -5
Aye, just double checking both ends of the system. (god that sounds dirty)
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Post by [ita]SirKenzoY2J on Apr 1, 2017 19:04:29 GMT -5
maybe tanking is not so shameful... maybe pixonic want to this... maybe i'm a fool maybe i make more over 5000 AU in this month, from Expert League III to Private League.... maybe
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Post by [ita]SirKenzoY2J on Apr 1, 2017 19:09:11 GMT -5
So play up till the middle of the month, then "fall down"... When you qualify in bronze at the end of the next league you can battle your way back up to where ever you were, collecting gold all the way for winning + the league rewards till almost the end.... Between the heavy AU payouts for damage, beacons and now a reward system that gives you ZERO incentive to stay put (cumulative gold vs just the league your in) ---- At this point it is safe to assume that "tanking" is by design... Very unnerving, but yeah, honestly, this is the only reasonable course of action with this system. How idiotic someone realize that a month ago.... i have a final mix hangar, all lev 11 and 12 as you know... i feel rich but stupid to kill cossacks... but i need AU, pixonic don't encourage myself to climb, so the ONLY WAY WE GIVE US os try to tank, and also this, isn't easy as you think... you need another type of consistent hangar |
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Post by amidf on Apr 1, 2017 19:09:33 GMT -5
maybe tanking is not so shameful... maybe pixonic want to this... maybe i'm a fool maybe i make more over 5000 AU in this month, from Expert League III to Private League.... maybe Definitely one of those, but not two. -Amid |
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Post by zer00eyz on Apr 1, 2017 19:13:37 GMT -5
Very unnerving, but yeah, honestly, this is the only reasonable course of action with this system. How idiotic someone realize that a month ago.... i have a final mix hangar, all lev 11 and 12 as you know... i feel rich but stupid to kill cossacks... but i need AU, pixonic don't encourage myself to climb, so the ONLY WAY WE GIVE US os try to tank, and also this, isn't easy as you think... you need another type of consistent hangar I take it your not a native english speaker but if you don't mind I would love to know where your from and how In game gold is priced in your local currency. Even for us in the US some of the prices are "excessive", I wonder if it is even more so in other parts of the world. |
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Post by amidf on Apr 1, 2017 19:17:56 GMT -5
someone realize that a month ago.... i have a final mix hangar, all lev 11 and 12 as you know... i feel rich but stupid to kill cossacks... but i need AU, pixonic don't encourage myself to climb, so the ONLY WAY WE GIVE US os try to tank, and also this, isn't easy as you think... you need another type of consistent hangar There's another way. It's called playing against other max and near max hangars, completing daily tasks, and capping the most beacons or placing in top three for damage on winning team. You can also win squad battles with your clanmates, friends, or people from your battle history. If you wish, you can also spend more RM. Got to eat to live; got to steal to eat? Hardly, in this case. -Amid |
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Post by zer00eyz on Apr 1, 2017 19:32:23 GMT -5
...If you wish, you can also spend more RM. Got to eat to live; got to steal to eat? Hardly, in this case. This forum seems to love false equivalence. For me I am fortunate enough that I could have a minimum wage job makes grinding look silly. That isn't every one who plays this game. Telling someone "throw money at it" is not only misinformed it is massively insensitive. If I told any one in this forum that a particular slot machine on a particular day would give out a particular prize, assuming it was down the block from you, would you go put money in and pull the lever? And thats the perspective we have here folks All of you are upset that tankers are wrecking others games, and trying to make some moral or ethical statement about it. How many people who tank and club don't see it that way at all (it IS a game) and more or less see it as sticking it to the house/pix. The house/pix is the one who makes the money. The house/pix sets the odds, the house/pix built the system that invites and condones the issues at hand. Stop pointing the finger at the tanker and point the finger at the house/pix. |
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Post by notyetnotsosoon on Apr 1, 2017 20:14:18 GMT -5
^ Shhhh...that's their only pillar of logic.
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Post by amidf on Apr 1, 2017 20:17:41 GMT -5
"If it's not illegal, it must be OK."
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Post by Thunderkiss on Apr 2, 2017 10:33:23 GMT -5
Nah, but that doesnt change the fact that they are somehow lazy with updates. And terrible at communication. And unable to design a system that doesn't encourage manipulation. There have been over 10 million downloads. If we go super conservative and say only 10% play, that's pixos team of 20-30 people vs 1 million. And you think that's fair odds to figure out EVERY possible exploit and dirty trick in the book? I think your expectations are a little high. |
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Post by notyetnotsosoon on Apr 2, 2017 10:39:16 GMT -5
^ Because tanking in games is an entirely new notion that's specific to war robots. lol
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Post by amidf on Apr 2, 2017 10:51:38 GMT -5
During March league I made it to Gold 1. I dropped back down to Gold 2 before the league ended. I qualified in Gold 2 for the April league (received no placement gold) and my game says I have already received my bonus for Gold 1 and will not receive another. ¯\_(?)_/¯ Bumping for notyetnotsosoon. There are reports going both ways. It definitely seems buggy, but I wouldn't yet draw conclusions about how many leagues one can oscillate and still re-earn previous league payouts. I was clearly ripped off because I would love to have been paid twice for D2, but I didn't get it. I won't begrudge others who benefitted though. -Amid |
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Post by notyetnotsosoon on Apr 2, 2017 10:55:31 GMT -5
Was in diamond III, placed in diamond III. No extra gold. Yep, that was my experience with diamond 2 / diamond 2. So now we have seen a screenshot. Will someone late to the conversation who screenshots or video captures their game a lot show us the other version, where they got rewarded for qualifying into a league they had previously placed in? Would be best to know gold before and after too. Or can a tanker confirm they are getting rewarded again as they move up this week? Not that tabkers are to be trusted because the forum doesn't have a way to enforce a no lying policy, so obviously lying is a legitimate use of the forum. -Amid Noted for the bump. I didn't receive any extra Au too |
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Post by lordevilbajskorv on Apr 2, 2017 10:59:09 GMT -5
"Qualified" for Master League III and have spent the month going up and down in the same league. "Qualified" again yesterday with +16, +18, +18, -15, -12 and ended up in place 34 in the same league. 200 gold at end of season, no gold for re-qualifying.
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Post by zer00eyz on Apr 2, 2017 11:09:43 GMT -5
And terrible at communication. And unable to design a system that doesn't encourage manipulation. There have been over 10 million downloads. If we go super conservative and say only 10% play, that's pixos team of 20-30 people vs 1 million. And you think that's fair odds to figure out EVERY possible exploit and dirty trick in the book? I think your expectations are a little high. Pix's own PR says 30 million: pixonic.com/en/posts/301Team of 20-30 people? Did you just pull that number out of the air? And where did you get vs 1 million? Were also not talking about a boxing match or a mugging. Were talking about people who built an automated system and their customers. The sorts of odds you describe are fairly standard in the industry, lets not try to paint a picture that pix needs sympathy on these accounts. That their own success has gotten ahead of them. It isn't like tanking is some deep esoteric bug, some narrow loophole. Rather it is a perfect example of poor design and (to borrow some words from pix) "human psychology" interacting with it. They might as well have put a bill board up in shenzhen explaining how to do it. Even further, there were plenty of people who figured this out shortly after the new MM deployed but before Leagues rolled out, were well over 30 days into having this issue and pix has deceived us on multiple occasions. For a company that is MAKING MONEY it is a pretty bad idea to ignore your customers, and that is exactly what they have done. |
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Post by blastronaut on Apr 2, 2017 11:13:22 GMT -5
So we still don't have anyone who has actually qualified for a league that's lower than their previous best, then moved up to a league they were previously in and got the advancement award a second time? Because I'm gonna chuckle if I'm right, you don't get paid for advancing to a league you've been at already, and all this has been a tempest in a teapot I just did. Started Gold 2, Qualified Gold 3, moved back up to Gold 2. Won Gold every time. Total gold won = 260.  |
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