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Post by ΜØØSE on Apr 1, 2017 0:48:35 GMT -5
Woah... So Pixonic REALLY encourages tanking. So Pixonic should be banned from this forum? |
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Post by llama4president on Apr 1, 2017 0:53:45 GMT -5
Woah... So Pixonic REALLY encourages tanking. So Pixonic should be banned from this forum? OH NOW we know why they don't come here to talk xD they fear to be banned for encouraging tanking! |
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Post by zer00eyz on Apr 1, 2017 0:57:11 GMT -5
Woah... So Pixonic REALLY encourages tanking. So Pixonic should be banned from this forum? The would have to show up to get a ban, it is a struggle to get them to respond on their own reddit page. If I yell at them there they typically respond, but I'm salty enough with them and accurate enough in my postings that they pretty much have to or they are going to look stupid. However looking stupid has been refined to high art in their case. At this point they need to do something fairly quickly or the game will be un-playable. If any one had said "this is how the system will work" the abuse would have been through the roof already, as of right now the bell of inevitably has run and you can't un ring it only make changes quickly and in a transparent fashion. Something that pix has shown they are fairly incapable of doing. Legitimately there is recourse, but we would need to take action as a community, something that we don't seem to be able to do as of this moment. However I expect that will change soon. I don't mind being a voice, but I'm sick of being the only one over on reddit calling for accountability. |
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Post by ΜØØSE on Apr 1, 2017 1:03:16 GMT -5
So Pixonic should be banned from this forum? The would have to show up to get a ban, it is a struggle to get them to respond on their own reddit page. If I yell at them there they typically respond, but I'm salty enough with them and accurate enough in my postings that they pretty much have to or they are going to look stupid. However looking stupid has been refined to high art in their case. At this point they need to do something fairly quickly or the game will be un-playable. If any one had said "this is how the system will work" the abuse would have been through the roof already, as of right now the bell of inevitably has run and you can't un ring it only make changes quickly and in a transparent fashion. Something that pix has shown they are fairly incapable of doing. Legitimately there is recourse, but we would need to take action as a community, something that we don't seem to be able to do as of this moment. However I expect that will change soon. I don't mind being a voice, but I'm sick of being the only one over on reddit calling for accountability. I've been demanding it there, too. I even got a response. They didn't live up to their word. Shocker, I know. |
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Post by zer00eyz on Apr 1, 2017 1:04:40 GMT -5
The would have to show up to get a ban, it is a struggle to get them to respond on their own reddit page. If I yell at them there they typically respond, but I'm salty enough with them and accurate enough in my postings that they pretty much have to or they are going to look stupid. However looking stupid has been refined to high art in their case. At this point they need to do something fairly quickly or the game will be un-playable. If any one had said "this is how the system will work" the abuse would have been through the roof already, as of right now the bell of inevitably has run and you can't un ring it only make changes quickly and in a transparent fashion. Something that pix has shown they are fairly incapable of doing. Legitimately there is recourse, but we would need to take action as a community, something that we don't seem to be able to do as of this moment. However I expect that will change soon. I don't mind being a voice, but I'm sick of being the only one over on reddit calling for accountability. I've been demanding it there, too. I even got a response. They didn't live up to their word. Shocker, I know. It isn't like games haven't gone through this before, there is a pretty standard template for community action.... History can teach you a lot even if it is recent. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 1:08:52 GMT -5
I don't know where u saw that your rewards get reset, but I think you will find they don't. I just went from diamond 3 to d2 on Android and did not get a bonus, b/c I already was in d2 last month. Can you elaborate on your confirmation that you will get repaid? I don't think this is accurate or confirmed.
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Post by ShutUpAndSmokeMyWeed on Apr 1, 2017 1:09:39 GMT -5
EDIT #2 Food for Thought credit to zer00eyz Now that we know your history of league earnings "resets" every month, please consider the following: If a player finishes in Gold 1 and qualifies again at Gold 1, he earns 100 GoldIf a player finishes in Bronze 3 and qualifies again at Bronze 3, he earns 20 GoldThen if a player climbs from Bronze 3 to Gold 1, he earns an additional 520 Gold What in the actual 「fluffernutter」 is this 「dookie」?? Either they are encouraging abuse of their system or they're so 「fluffernutter」ing incompetent as to reset the 「fluffernutter」ing league rewards without even knowing about it? How do I go back to bronze 1? |
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Post by The VVatcher on Apr 1, 2017 1:09:50 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure I was paid for qualifying even though I landed on the same league I was on yesterday.
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Post by zer00eyz on Apr 1, 2017 1:10:02 GMT -5
I don't know where u saw that your rewards get reset, but I think you will find they don't. I just went from diamond 3 to d2 on Android and did not get a bonus, b/c I already was in d2 last month. Can you elaborate on your confirmation that you will get repaid? I don't think this is accurate or confirmed. I was in silver I middle of last month, I finished in silver II and will get a reward if I move back up. |
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Post by llama4president on Apr 1, 2017 1:12:39 GMT -5
I don't know where u saw that your rewards get reset, but I think you will find they don't. I just went from diamond 3 to d2 on Android and did not get a bonus, b/c I already was in d2 last month. Can you elaborate on your confirmation that you will get repaid? I don't think this is accurate or confirmed. rewards for LOWER tiers than you qualified are -lost-. rewards for HIGHER tiers than you qualified are reset. so if you played fair and qualified for a good tier, you get screwed up. if you tanked down by exploiting the league system, you would see all rewards from bronze and up all reseted and ready to be claimed again. |
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Post by Thumpmonkey1 on Apr 1, 2017 1:15:43 GMT -5
Has anyone actually gotten the reward for moving up to a previously attained league? Or are we assuming that because it says the next league is 80 gold or whatever that we'll actually get paid when we move up?
Because I wouldn't put it past Pix to have the posted reward for leagues show up the same for everyone, and then do a payout check when you get there to see if you already got it...
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Post by ✧✦Ŋɫתʃɑ✦✧ on Apr 1, 2017 1:18:26 GMT -5
EDIT #2 Food for Thought credit to zer00eyz Now that we know your history of league earnings "resets" every month, please consider the following: If a player finishes in Gold 1 and qualifies again at Gold 1, he earns 100 GoldIf a player finishes in Bronze 3 and qualifies again at Bronze 3, he earns 20 GoldThen if a player climbs from Bronze 3 to Gold 1, he earns an additional 520 Gold What in the actual ?firetruck? is this ?poo-poo??? Either they are encouraging abuse of their system or they're so ?firetruck?ing incompetent as to reset the ?firetruck?ing league rewards without even knowing about it? How do I go back to bronze 1? Put 5 cossacks wait for 30 secs then kill yourself. |
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Post by Demosthenes on Apr 1, 2017 1:29:09 GMT -5
I haven't started the new 5 game challenge. I play iOS, started last league in Diamond II, finished in Diamond I, when I logged in this morning I received the "league ended" dialogue box and a payment of ~ 140 Au - which I assumed to be based on my finishing league.
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Post by spawnreaper on Apr 1, 2017 1:44:15 GMT -5
Wow now I know what to spend all my wsp on. 5 lvl 1 stalkers with lvl 1 mags to alternate with my regular hanger. I hope that was just joking, because what you are saying is "I will spend all my WSP to build an hangar with which I'll piss over my fellow players by ruining their games". I mean, we know there are plenty of people who see no problem with that, but do you want to be one of them? If you wanna play Stalkers, at least upgrade them to max speed, and play the matches properly (with any level 1 light you kinda can't, you'll just die). Can't break what's already broken. And I'll be honest I played my best but to many tankers in Damn game  |
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Post by notyetnotsosoon on Apr 1, 2017 2:10:27 GMT -5
 Was in diamond III, placed in diamond III. No extra gold. |
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Post by hyderier on Apr 1, 2017 2:19:29 GMT -5
I hope that was just joking, because what you are saying is "I will spend all my WSP to build an hangar with which I'll piss over my fellow players by ruining their games". I mean, we know there are plenty of people who see no problem with that, but do you want to be one of them? If you wanna play Stalkers, at least upgrade them to max speed, and play the matches properly (with any level 1 light you kinda can't, you'll just die). Can't break what's already broken. Well, the thing is, it's not broken for everybody, such as me (Android, Silver1/Gold3, solo play). I'd rather you (plural, all who advocate and promote game breaking such as tanking) didn't break it for us too (out of spite?), even if it is broken for you too. I mean, is tanking at all fun for those who do it, unless they're basically sosiopaths? First spending time ditching or otherwise losing games, while ruining game for their team mates... doesn't sound fun. Then bringing out high level gear against low level gear of others, and ruining games for both reds and other blues to get virtual game gold? Ok, I can kinda see the enjoyment of having that Au number increase, but... ruining the game for others to get it? (Note: I'm assuming this behavior indeed ruins the entire game for some, because of all the complaints... I seem to somehow not meet these tankers in battlefield much *knocks on wood*.) |
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Post by spawnreaper on Apr 1, 2017 2:27:58 GMT -5
Can't break what's already broken. Well, the thing is, it's not broken for everybody, such as me (Android, Silver1/Gold3, solo play). I'd rather you (plural, all who advocate and promote game breaking such as tanking) didn't break it for us too (out of spite?), even if it is broken for you too. I mean, is tanking at all fun for those who do it, unless they're basically sosiopaths? First spending time ditching or otherwise losing games, while ruining game for their team mates... doesn't sound fun. Then bringing out high level gear against low level gear of others, and ruining games for both reds and other blues to get virtual game gold? Ok, I can kinda see the enjoyment of having that Au number increase, but... ruining the game for others to get it? (Note: I'm assuming this behavior indeed ruins the entire game for some, because of all the complaints... I seem to somehow not meet these tankers in battlefield much *knocks on wood*.) I'm just adopting pixonics can't please everyone attitude. This is me adapting to the game. If you don't like it sorry. I'm saying sorry cause I'm Canadian. |
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Post by notyetnotsosoon on Apr 1, 2017 2:30:12 GMT -5
Can't break what's already broken. Well, the thing is, it's not broken for everybody, such as me (Android, Silver1/Gold3, solo play). I'd rather you (plural, all who advocate and promote game breaking such as tanking) didn't break it for us too (out of spite?), even if it is broken for you too. I mean, is tanking at all fun for those who do it, unless they're basically sosiopaths? First spending time ditching or otherwise losing games, while ruining game for their team mates... doesn't sound fun. Then bringing out high level gear against low level gear of others, and ruining games for both reds and other blues to get virtual game gold? Ok, I can kinda see the enjoyment of having that Au number increase, but... ruining the game for others to get it? (Note: I'm assuming this behavior indeed ruins the entire game for some, because of all the complaints... I seem to somehow not meet these tankers in battlefield much *knocks on wood*.) Actually this reminds me, we should redo a poll every once in a while to gauge players' sentiments. Maybe those who are happy/unhappy with the game are a mere minority? Can't speak for sociopaths but it sure sounds fun getting Au freely like that. Strange...why would you assume they even need to care for others? |
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Post by hyderier on Apr 1, 2017 2:57:35 GMT -5
Well, the thing is, it's not broken for everybody, such as me (Android, Silver1/Gold3, solo play). I'd rather you (plural, all who advocate and promote game breaking such as tanking) didn't break it for us too (out of spite?), even if it is broken for you too. I mean, is tanking at all fun for those who do it, unless they're basically sosiopaths? First spending time ditching or otherwise losing games, while ruining game for their team mates... doesn't sound fun. Then bringing out high level gear against low level gear of others, and ruining games for both reds and other blues to get virtual game gold? Ok, I can kinda see the enjoyment of having that Au number increase, but... ruining the game for others to get it? (Note: I'm assuming this behavior indeed ruins the entire game for some, because of all the complaints... I seem to somehow not meet these tankers in battlefield much *knocks on wood*.) I'm just adopting pixonics can't please everyone attitude. This is me adapting to the game. If you don't like it sorry. I'm saying sorry cause I'm Canadian. I wouldn't consider Pix a role model, really... At least many here think they basically suck, and should improve in many ways. |
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Post by zer00eyz on Apr 1, 2017 3:00:01 GMT -5
Actually this reminds me, we should redo a poll every once in a while to gauge players' sentiments. Maybe those who are happy/unhappy with the game are a mere minority? The only group of people that can do a poll that is meaningful is pionic themselves. |
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Post by spawnreaper on Apr 1, 2017 3:02:33 GMT -5
Well, the thing is, it's not broken for everybody, such as me (Android, Silver1/Gold3, solo play). I'd rather you (plural, all who advocate and promote game breaking such as tanking) didn't break it for us too (out of spite?), even if it is broken for you too. I mean, is tanking at all fun for those who do it, unless they're basically sosiopaths? First spending time ditching or otherwise losing games, while ruining game for their team mates... doesn't sound fun. Then bringing out high level gear against low level gear of others, and ruining games for both reds and other blues to get virtual game gold? Ok, I can kinda see the enjoyment of having that Au number increase, but... ruining the game for others to get it? (Note: I'm assuming this behavior indeed ruins the entire game for some, because of all the complaints... I seem to somehow not meet these tankers in battlefield much *knocks on wood*.) Actually this reminds me, we should redo a poll every once in a while to gauge players' sentiments. Maybe those who are happy/unhappy with the game are a mere minority? Can't speak for sociopaths but it sure sounds fun getting Au freely like that. Strange...why would you assume they even need to care for others? Because everyone needs a hug somtimes? |
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Post by hyderier on Apr 1, 2017 3:03:29 GMT -5
Well, the thing is, it's not broken for everybody, such as me (Android, Silver1/Gold3, solo play). I'd rather you (plural, all who advocate and promote game breaking such as tanking) didn't break it for us too (out of spite?), even if it is broken for you too. I mean, is tanking at all fun for those who do it, unless they're basically sosiopaths? First spending time ditching or otherwise losing games, while ruining game for their team mates... doesn't sound fun. Then bringing out high level gear against low level gear of others, and ruining games for both reds and other blues to get virtual game gold? Ok, I can kinda see the enjoyment of having that Au number increase, but... ruining the game for others to get it? (Note: I'm assuming this behavior indeed ruins the entire game for some, because of all the complaints... I seem to somehow not meet these tankers in battlefield much *knocks on wood*.) Actually this reminds me, we should redo a poll every once in a while to gauge players' sentiments. Maybe those who are happy/unhappy with the game are a mere minority? Can't speak for sociopaths but it sure sounds fun getting Au freely like that. Strange...why would you assume they even need to care for others? Getting Au like that seems a bit like a school yard bully missing their own classes to extort money from lower graders. You say it sounds fun, and no need to care? I don't think we need to continue this discussion (even if this just a mobile game and IRL bullying is on a totally different level, it's the same attitude). |
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Post by notyetnotsosoon on Apr 1, 2017 3:17:12 GMT -5
zer00eyz - After all that effort spent on pushing new players to rate the game, wouldn't trust them to do anything. spawnreaper - Not me I don't. Probably more for hyderier. hyderier - Let's use another analogy shall we? I've likened this game to that of the olympics (the russian devs irony) before. If rules and umpires aren't put in place, competitors would use all means at their disposal to win. Don't blame the players for the lack of sportsmanship. You have an issue, take it up with the devs for the lack of failsafes.
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Post by hyderier on Apr 1, 2017 3:57:24 GMT -5
spawnreaper - Not me I don't. Probably more for hyderier. hyderier - Let's use another analogy shall we? I've likened this game to that of the olympics (the russian devs irony) before. If rules and umpires aren't put in place, competitors would use all means at their disposal to win. Don't blame the players for the lack of sportsmanship. You have an issue, take it up with the devs for the lack of failsafes. The problem with War Robots and comparing to Olympics is, everybody doesn't consider the same thing "winning". This is of course Pix's fault for having almost no incentive to go for their intended measure of winning (league points). Many ways to fix, none have been tried. Still, I do blame the players for the lack of sportsmanship. Sportsmanship isn't something you have because you are forced to (ie. otherwise you will for example get kicked out of the team/game, or banned from competing for a time, etc). As I see it for myself, the options are to play "with sportsmanship" (as long as it is fun, which it has been for me so far), or stop playing. I don't see the option of starting to break the game for others if things were bad for me. Of course I see how this can be hard if someone has used a lot of RM, but I still don't accept that as an excuse to join in spoiling the game even more. Also, to clarify, for example switching to a proper, decently leveled light hangar (say, minimum L6 light bots, very cheap and quick to upgrade, for 12/12 heavy hangar player, using the same L12 weps) and playing to win by beacons and harassing reds is 100% fine by me. It won't really screw the game for others (not even when again switching to heavy hangar, because you can't drop too low with these lights), and it brings in beacon Au while going down in leagues. There are fair alternatives to hard tanking... it's personal choise to either take them or not. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 3:59:15 GMT -5
zer00eyz - After all that effort spent on pushing new players to rate the game, wouldn't trust them to do anything. spawnreaper - Not me I don't. Probably more for hyderier. hyderier - Let's use another analogy shall we? I've likened this game to that of the olympics (the russian devs irony) before. If rules and umpires aren't put in place, competitors would use all means at their disposal to win. Don't blame the players for the lack of sportsmanship. You have an issue, take it up with the devs for the lack of failsafes. Exactly. Like when a natural disaster strikes, you'd be a fool not to loot. I mean, those tvs are just there. Radio shack or whatever should protect them better. If I don't steal TVs, my neighbors might get more tvs than me. So that makes it right! |
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Post by notyetnotsosoon on Apr 1, 2017 4:06:42 GMT -5
@heavypanda - Suuuurrrreeee, if one isn't afraid of the repercussions. I mean laws forbid that kind of thing right and the 2nd amendment? None of those in War Robots tho? hyderier - Listen, I get you're frustrated. Hell even I do since I don't tank. But I'm defending their right because Pix simply allowed it. I've adapted to the situation however by squadding up more often as suggested by some of Pix's SJWs. Suggest you do the same. |
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Apr 1, 2017 6:11:00 GMT -5
So play up till the middle of the month, then "fall down"... When you qualify in bronze at the end of the next league you can battle your way back up to where ever you were, collecting gold all the way for winning + the league rewards till almost the end.... Between the heavy AU payouts for damage, beacons and now a reward system that gives you ZERO incentive to stay put (cumulative gold vs just the league your in) ---- At this point it is safe to assume that "tanking" is by design... Very unnerving, but yeah, honestly, this is the only reasonable course of action with this system. How idiotic |
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Post by amidf on Apr 1, 2017 7:50:21 GMT -5
Was in diamond III, placed in diamond III. No extra gold. Yep, that was my experience with diamond 2 / diamond 2. So now we have seen a screenshot. Will someone late to the conversation who screenshots or video captures their game a lot show us the other version, where they got rewarded for qualifying into a league they had previously placed in? Would be best to know gold before and after too. Or can a tanker confirm they are getting rewarded again as they move up this week? Not that tabkers are to be trusted because the forum doesn't have a way to enforce a no lying policy, so obviously lying is a legitimate use of the forum. -Amid |
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Post by radmobile on Apr 1, 2017 8:18:46 GMT -5
Ended in Diamond 3 and got the 110 reward. Started in diamond 3 with no new gold
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