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Post by onasander on Jul 7, 2021 21:47:52 GMT -5
I keep seeing a oil rig in the background of art or on the carrier map on this game, and so expect they will make a map for it eventually.
I started (havenât fully finished) the new Amazon Prime movie âThe Tomorrow Warâ- the tactics and explanations in the movie are abysmal, Iâm rooting for the aliens if this is the response humans offer for planetary defense, the aliens seem closest to the aliens from Pitch Black and Jurassic Park dinos, with a little Will Smith âI Am Legendâ zombie and brain bug from Star Ship Troopers mixed in.
They have a oil rig fortress in the movie, and a fortified sea base around it. Iâm thinking since Dreadnought was ripped off from Star Wars, this might be a good idea to rip off- or be inspired from. I mean, it is this or that 「dookie」ty floating Asian village from Water World the smokers ramped over, so go with the design from this movie instead, looks better.
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 8, 2021 7:44:42 GMT -5
I actually kinda likeed The Tomorrow War. Sure, the premise was dumb, but they were smart enough to push past all the bureaucratic nonsense of a world responding to soldiers from the future dropping in like that.
I liked the action and I especially liked how hard it was to kill even one of the aliens. They say "throat and stomach" but they move so fast that it would be hard to hit those spots. And, they're big. Big enough to knock trucks over. They can swim and even glide. My son said that they were Thanos's third army and if they'd been available in End Game, the Avengers would have lost.
The action was reminiscent of Starship Troopers (granted the movie plot was horrible but the action broke new ground), and unlike the monsters in A Quiet Place, I can see how this type of alien could give the world powers a run their their money.
That oil rig scene was great too, very tense and had that hopeless "they're gonna lose" feel.
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Post by Joopiter on Jul 8, 2021 8:41:18 GMT -5
I think an oil rig would be an awesome map. Anything you can fall off of, is a good dynamic.
Tomorrow War was great IMO. I think there's some suspension of disbelief that's required but I hear the same about black widow. And it's no where near as ridiculous as F9. The premise that the alien's main drive is to feed on humans is recycled but scary none the less. And you gotta love anything time travel releated.
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Post by onasander on Jul 8, 2021 9:44:10 GMT -5
I get the philosophical arguments for paradox and only needing the dead but they say the worldâs population is down to 500,000 people- I think they could risk a bit more of the population getting drafted than they are letting on- and everyone was given zero training and terrible outfitting. And I do not know why they were giving assault rifles and pistols to fight a alien threat than can take entire clips and yawn. Like, everyone needed at the very least a necklace of grenades.
Second they were wasting time on not developing more obvious units that could exploit obvious physics- like using napalm and then in quick succession liquid nitrogen to hit these suckers. You heat them up and then rapidly freeze them, they wonât be moving around if they require anything dietary from humans as that 「fluffernutter」s up every molecular bond in our bodies. Instead they had every light and heavy vehicle and aircraft constantly swarm. They didnât even use auto guns- weâve had them since the 1980s- well known to be really stupid and shoot every bird and rabbit that registers on the thermos, so no military adopted them early on due to their ability to deplete the local fauna, but in the case of crazy as 「fluffernutter」 alien swarms, yeah.
Also, why not just send them the materials to make daisy cutters or nuclear launch weapons- or ask the future where we should hide the 「dookie」 so they have easy access to it. Or at least 「fluffernutter」ing put some mattresses down on the drop point. They were just dropping face first into the concrete. I want four 「fluffernutter」ing layers of high quality mattresses there. No, five.
Body Armor that explodes if you tear it apart at weird thrashing clawing angles, drones to scout or confuse the aliens. Iâd take a RPG. Even 「fluffernutter」ing suicide bombers would of made more sense. Empty out the cancer wards, put some TNT on them and shoot them into the time machine, telling them no more need for chemo, go hug a alien and then boom!
The strategic and tactical outlook of the movie pissed me off, aliens should of won. I still gotta finish it, they are in the crying about global warming stage of the movie up in Russia. Somehow Russia didnât notice a C-130 approaching its airspace to land in a very suspicious location. ð I used to jump out of those things in Alaska, trust me, the Russians would know. Not a stealth craft. 「fluffernutter」- they could of sent C-130s into the future with that pointlessly big hanger and done air artillery strikes to no end.
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 8, 2021 9:50:40 GMT -5
Yeah, suspension of belief is definitely needed for this - more for Quiet Place cause the aliens in that are wimps.
Seriously, if I were fighting crazy aliens like that that could soak up so much damage and can get in to spitting distance that fast, I'd be equipping my soldiers with tactical auto shotguns. The variation of ammo alone on those things would make mincemeat out of any alien invader.
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Post by onasander on Jul 8, 2021 10:01:22 GMT -5
 Even the medieval Byzantines using Greek Fire and chain armor would of been better equipped to fight. We have grenade launchers that act like machine guns, can be mounted on humvees- way better than 50 caliber weapons. |
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 8, 2021 13:41:18 GMT -5
That's why I compared the action scenes to Starship Troopers. While that movie was ground breaking in terms of what movies can show, there were so many things wrong with it that to this day, I still cringe when I think about it. It was kind of a love/hate thing for me.
Like for example, why in the far future, do they send unarmoured infantry with nothing bigger than an assault rifle to fight giant alien bugs that can rip apart a human faster than it takes you to day Oscar Meyer Weiner? Or, in the far future, how can you expect to do battle in space with ships that have no types of shielding against weapons? Or, why are they spending so many lives over a useless piece of rock? Well, that last one I know was done on purpose cause not only did it happen in the book, it was also an ironic look at how some military decisions can seem stupid.
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Post by onasander on Jul 8, 2021 14:13:26 GMT -5
On starship troopers, their portable defensive forts could of easily matched their GI weaponry to oppose the bugs if they just had a 20 foot tall reinforced roof to it with slats in it for infantry to shoot up into. Take a knee, shoot upwards, kill bugs. The bugs didn’t have many counter to this approach, would of worked in human wars till the Korean War- that’s when mortars got good enough to directly target fortified field bunkers. In the guerrilla fighting in the Cold War they increasingly cautioned that while digging such fighting positions had advantages, even if you concrete the top a mortar could still penetrate on a direct hit. Hence why 11C (mortar guys) are always deployed with 11B (basic infantry) in the US Army. The bugs didn’t have much of a response here. So just put sturdy roofs on the drop fortresses and the garrisons are much more likely to hold out- unless they suffocate cause of all the bugs dead or alive sitting on every slat.
I also don’t understand the grand strategy of these forts- they are just fixed point metal garrisons, lack anything resembling support for heavy field vehicles, or any vehicles. You just man it and hope for sure support, while begging the bugs to use human wave tactics on you. It’s all great when they do consistently use human wave tactics, but even forts built in the dark ages out of wood had more defensive value to them that these places.
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