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Post by T-Town Striker on Apr 9, 2021 21:40:06 GMT -5
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Post by Garbage game on Apr 9, 2021 23:50:07 GMT -5
Total Bull from Pix, there is no freakin MM system. Games like this will just chase players away and I donât blame them for leaving ! This Red Squad I face daily and they are all equipped with recent $$$ paid for Pix gimmicks . But to match them with Expert players is the total MM abuse, hereâs the game result, Red player , Blue teammate and my stats. As long as you squad with at least one Master league player, MM will pit you against full meta S rank deathsquads. It's a learning experience that you go thru in clans. Yes it's 「slow」, but managable. You could potentially have a Master 3 player and 5 Bronze Leaguers against a full squad of SIN/CHN/GODZ/yourwhaleclanhere
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Post by Flaminius on Apr 10, 2021 2:37:20 GMT -5
This is 95% of the reason why I don't play any more. I mean, I'll 「female dog」 and whine about the content as much as anybody, but if I can't squad with my boys because of this nonsense, I won't play at all. It's obviously important to teach your kids that they can't win all the time, but being stamped on over and over by some mega clan isn't *that*.
It's absolutely ridiculous that they would have clans to help build a community and then make it impractical to use them.
It might be different with the league change, but this would happen within Champions previously too. I used to be in a non-spending S clan with low - mid champions in it. Squadding in anything other than TDM at prime time was an absolute nightmare. Granted, we would hold off the uber clans in BR/Dom a bit longer, but it's still no fun when you are certain to lose.
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Post by BB on Apr 10, 2021 5:23:27 GMT -5
Pix reminds us everyday that you either pay for the product or you ARE the product
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Post by GuitarGuy on Apr 10, 2021 13:34:30 GMT -5
This the main reason I play FFA when I go solo. Dom and BR I hit full clans solo. I dont have the current stuff to compete and bleed clan and League points like crazy if I do. it sucks really.
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Post by santaclaus on Apr 10, 2021 14:09:46 GMT -5
This the main reason I play FFA when I go solo. Dom and BR I hit full clans solo. I dont have the current stuff to compete and bleed clan and League points like crazy if I do. it sucks really. Yeah but you're trading one set of gambles for another. How do you get around the killsteal? Personally, that's more 「slow」 and infuriating than any clan death squad.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Apr 10, 2021 16:53:07 GMT -5
"All we want is fair and competitive battles and are prepared to wait longer to get them". Said just about every top ranked clan. Teehehee.
"We just try to finish the game as quickly as possible so we can hopefully move onto a better matched battle". Also heard quite often.
The amount of powercells they use even against lower levelled opponents with virtually gaurenteed wins is mind boggling.
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Post by reckless1 on Apr 11, 2021 8:39:03 GMT -5
"All we want is fair and competitive battles and are prepared to wait longer to get them". Said just about every top ranked clan. Teehehee. "We just try to finish the game as quickly as possible so we can hopefully move onto a better matched battle". Also heard quite often. The amount of powercells they use even against lower levelled opponents with virtually gaurenteed wins is mind boggling. They’re liars with self esteem issues. Big men in their fake robots. Period.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Apr 12, 2021 16:38:30 GMT -5
This the main reason I play FFA when I go solo. Dom and BR I hit full clans solo. I dont have the current stuff to compete and bleed clan and League points like crazy if I do. it sucks really. Yeah but you're trading one set of gambles for another. How do you get around the killsteal? Personally, that's more 「slow」 and infuriating than any clan death squad. Easy! Drop Late and be "that guy" who waits in a Scorpion for the two dudes to beat each other almost to death so I can sneak in and snuff em both.... I do get what you are saying though. The toughest part of FFA is the guy with a whole hanger of shells chasing you down...ugh..
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Post by Pilot #RG# on Apr 12, 2021 22:20:20 GMT -5
"All we want is fair and competitive battles and are prepared to wait longer to get them". Said just about every top ranked clan. Teehehee. "We just try to finish the game as quickly as possible so we can hopefully move onto a better matched battle". Also heard quite often. The amount of powercells they use even against lower levelled opponents with virtually gaurenteed wins is mind boggling. True, then also noticed a few top clans play only four players if they find the opponents too weak. Zen clan did it a few times for me where they would just park a tank on beacon and do nothing. Well, those four are enough to butcher us, that’s a different story lol
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Post by Garbage game on Apr 12, 2021 23:49:35 GMT -5
"All we want is fair and competitive battles and are prepared to wait longer to get them". Said just about every top ranked clan. Teehehee. "We just try to finish the game as quickly as possible so we can hopefully move onto a better matched battle". Also heard quite often. The amount of powercells they use even against lower levelled opponents with virtually gaurenteed wins is mind boggling. They’re liars with self esteem issues. Big men in their fake robots. Period. Yep, I'll admit that some random slaughtering is a nice change of pace after meeting big Whale squads a few games in a row. We'd even switch servers or game modes if we had too many beat downs. This was especially true during our run to S rank. My ego isn't fragile and I'm not afraid to admit to Crimes Against Randoms. The clans who say "oh we want a fair match and don't prefer easy wins" are pretty funny. Some of them gathered the biggest spenders from other clans then suddenly wonder why there's no "worthy" competition. Big egos to hide behind a wallet and a screen.
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Post by cookieDad on Apr 15, 2021 12:46:04 GMT -5
I am so fed up with facing squad after squad. I play solo 99.999% of the time. Its bull that squads take it easy when facing randoms. They still storm raid. What i do is just Report every single squad player. Pix wont do anything with it, but hey screw them.
Pix encourages randoms being slaughtered by clans, they promote it. Why else would boosters give extra bonus to clanmates? Pix even rewards clans vs randoms!! It should be the other way around. For every teammember in a squad, you get 2% less. This would even things out a bit.
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Post by Endobot on Apr 16, 2021 4:30:48 GMT -5
I `m getting more and more games against S clan squads (which end very quickly) but last night, to my surprise, the blue team actually won against one. Wasn`t such a surprise though after when I saw all 5 of my team mates were also from an S clan squad. What was surprising though was when I saw that all 5 of them were in Experts league.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Apr 16, 2021 23:57:55 GMT -5
I am so fed up with facing squad after squad. I play solo 99.999% of the time. Its bull that squads take it easy when facing randoms. They still storm raid. What i do is just Report every single squad player. Pix wont do anything with it, but hey screw them. Pix encourages randoms being slaughtered by clans, they promote it. Why else would boosters give extra bonus to clanmates? Pix even rewards clans vs randoms!! It should be the other way around. For every teammember in a squad, you get 2% less. This would even things out a bit. Of course Pix won’t do anything about it. So many of them are the exact whales Pix markets to.
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Post by games on May 16, 2021 16:45:04 GMT -5
Couple options fluxonic has here.
-Remove clans/squads from random and create clan wars. -Identify those unbalanced matches and increase rewards to the losing team. lots more silver for your contribution of being food to this garbage MM system.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on May 17, 2021 1:54:18 GMT -5
Couple options fluxonic has here. -Remove clans/squads from random and create clan wars. -Identify those unbalanced matches and increase rewards to the losing team. lots more silver for your contribution of being food to this garbage MM system. Or do as they have been doing for years now. Pretend there is no problem as those clans are the moneymakers to their game. The fact that you get rewarded for being in a clan and get booster multipliers for ganging up on others speaks volumes about what they think of the MM system.
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Post by Pilot #RG# on May 17, 2021 2:11:25 GMT -5
Couple options fluxonic has here. -Remove clans/squads from random and create clan wars. -Identify those unbalanced matches and increase rewards to the losing team. lots more silver for your contribution of being food to this garbage MM system. Or do as they have been doing for years now. Pretend there is no problem as those clans are the moneymakers to their game. The fact that you get rewarded for being in a clan and get booster multipliers for ganging up on others speaks volumes about what they think of the MM system. The idea of boosting damage, durability, speed and ability cooldown is plain stupid. Especially when they already lock the recent releases for the ones who can pay.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2021 6:07:54 GMT -5
Or do as they have been doing for years now. Pretend there is no problem as those clans are the moneymakers to their game. The fact that you get rewarded for being in a clan and get booster multipliers for ganging up on others speaks volumes about what they think of the MM system. The idea of boosting damage, durability, speed and ability cooldown is plain stupid. Especially when they already lock the recent releases for the ones who can pay. and the ultimate douche bag move ... Honor Boosters. The very best example of Pix as a whole.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2021 6:21:03 GMT -5
Couple options fluxonic has here. -Remove clans/squads from random and create clan wars. -Identify those unbalanced matches and increase rewards to the losing team. lots more silver for your contribution of being food to this garbage MM system. The fact that you get rewarded for being in a clan and get booster multipliers for ganging up on others speaks volumes about what they think of the MM system. The #2 reason why I will never, ever stay for squads. It should only take effect if the drop is against another squad, but if the other squad is lower level and is not boosting, then it makes no sense. Boosters themselves is a terrible idea. I have thousands, never use them as I swear it triggers negative effects in game ... could be my anxiety and distrust of the Russian Crime Syndicate. Also, when you think about it ... when you hit Battle, it is a loot chest in itself on what your going to get ... should not be. Bouncy Shells, Maxed Last Stands, Same clan ID .... I got a Griffin shooting Molots, a camper, 1 guy who seems to care, a sniper and it is 4-1 beacons 5 seconds in? I could care less I could get 5M damage and first place, Pix wants that .... I am out. There is no honor in racing Usain Bolt and saying hippy, I lost but I was first loser! Lolz, 「fluffernutter」 that garbage. That is not fun. -22 me and roll to a good game.
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Post by games on May 17, 2021 8:22:35 GMT -5
The idea of boosting damage, durability, speed and ability cooldown is plain stupid. Especially when they already lock the recent releases for the ones who can pay. and the ultimate douche bag move ... Honor Boosters. The very best example of Pix as a whole. Right, so to clarify, I think it would be interesting if you get more silver if you do damage against a higher level bot/weapons. So, there would be some value to staying and fighting, because you are farming them for silver. IE: a lvl 1 bot shoors a level 12 bot, you get 4x the silver (for the damage you do). Hardcoded into the game. The game would have to keep track where your damage goes and it might be a longer calulation at the end, but.. Naturally, in a sqaud stomp ALL the enemies you shoot will be ultra high lvl so all your meager damage will be extra silver. All of a sudden i think you'd get more interesting matches. at least, I'D stay for that.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2021 19:34:04 GMT -5
and the ultimate douche bag move ... Honor Boosters. The very best example of Pix as a whole. Right, so to clarify, I think it would be interesting if you get more silver if you do damage against a higher level bot/weapons. So, there would be some value to staying and fighting, because you are farming them for silver. IE: a lvl 1 bot shoors a level 12 bot, you get 4x the silver (for the damage you do). Hardcoded into the game. The game would have to keep track where your damage goes and it might be a longer calulation at the end, but.. Naturally, in a sqaud stomp ALL the enemies you shoot will be ultra high lvl so all your meager damage will be extra silver. All of a sudden i think you'd get more interesting matches. at least, I'D stay for that. Very interesting take on it, I actually like this a lot. You pay me? I stay.
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Post by perky on May 23, 2021 15:55:32 GMT -5
Man...its not even the full clans anymore for me...im sick of the s clan duos getting an s clan random put on their team while i get 1 s clan guy on mine. It makes no sense at all. I swear the number of shells i go against as opposed to having on my team is at least 5 to 1....its absurd
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2021 16:31:51 GMT -5
Right, so to clarify, I think it would be interesting if you get more silver if you do damage against a higher level bot/weapons. So, there would be some value to staying and fighting, because you are farming them for silver. IE: a lvl 1 bot shoors a level 12 bot, you get 4x the silver (for the damage you do). Hardcoded into the game. The game would have to keep track where your damage goes and it might be a longer calulation at the end, but.. Naturally, in a sqaud stomp ALL the enemies you shoot will be ultra high lvl so all your meager damage will be extra silver. All of a sudden i think you'd get more interesting matches. at least, I'D stay for that. Very interesting take on it, I actually like this a lot. You pay me? I stay. This is not going to work. Last time I was stomped by a death squad, I couldn’t shoot for more than a few seconds before 6 clanmates melted me, and never was able to charge my Arthur while the spawn raid had 4-6 already sitting around, wanting for a snack.......can’t get reward if you die every 3 seconds......
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2021 17:33:59 GMT -5
Very interesting take on it, I actually like this a lot. You pay me? I stay. This is not going to work. Last time I was stomped by a death squad, I couldn’t shoot for more than a few seconds before 6 clanmates melted me, and never was able to charge my Arthur while the spawn raid had 4-6 already sitting around, wanting for a snack.......can’t get reward if you die every 3 seconds...... Maybe not for you, for me it would. Even if you unload everything you got, managed a million damage and got pro-rated a decent amount of silver more people would stay. I might actually drop my Maxed Cannibal noodles if they gave me a million silver. Right now the aggravation and for sheer spite I will not even entertain their spending and getting a chub, chub clubbing Masters folks. I don't even know why they go up down in league. Prolly wait times 'cause most people aren't dumb enough to dump any time into this game.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2021 18:26:12 GMT -5
This is not going to work. Last time I was stomped by a death squad, I couldn’t shoot for more than a few seconds before 6 clanmates melted me, and never was able to charge my Arthur while the spawn raid had 4-6 already sitting around, wanting for a snack.......can’t get reward if you die every 3 seconds...... Maybe not for you, for me it would. Even if you unload everything you got, managed a million damage and got pro-rated a decent amount of silver more people would stay. I might actually drop my Maxed Cannibal noodles if they gave me a million silver. Right now the aggravation and for sheer spite I will not even entertain their spending and getting a chub, chub clubbing Masters folks. I don't even know why they go up down in league. Prolly wait times 'cause most people aren't dumb enough to dump any time into this game. I get your thinking, but when each bot you drop is dead in seconds, your not going to get 1M damage.....maybe not 100,000...... If you have weapons capable of 1M damage in 10-15 seconds that the bots have to shoot, I hope I don’t run into you as a red in battle!
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2021 19:01:31 GMT -5
Maybe not for you, for me it would. Even if you unload everything you got, managed a million damage and got pro-rated a decent amount of silver more people would stay. I might actually drop my Maxed Cannibal noodles if they gave me a million silver. Right now the aggravation and for sheer spite I will not even entertain their spending and getting a chub, chub clubbing Masters folks. I don't even know why they go up down in league. Prolly wait times 'cause most people aren't dumb enough to dump any time into this game. I get your thinking, but when each bot you drop is dead in seconds, your not going to get 1M damage.....maybe not 100,000...... If you have weapons capable of 1M damage in 10-15 seconds that the bots have to shoot, I hope I don’t run into you as a red in battle! I get ya man .... whelp until they make it worth while, yall enjoy lol
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Post by games on May 27, 2021 9:16:02 GMT -5
I whole heartedly agree with the thrust of this post. And im glad ppl still take the time to vent this. warning new players to not invest.
And..As i have said before:
You don't even have to be in a squad to get MM stomped. I was up against PERU 5 or 6 times per day every day. Although i do have to say the MM has changed dramatically since i left Shameroom platform. now on my.games, i see a heavy hitting enemy like once per day, instead of the majority of my games. So thats a plus.
still problematic though, and pushes people away as the OP says.
EASY FIX FOR PIX: Clan war season, exclusive prizes that attract whales. 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off.
That means for 2 weeks, clans/squads will be removed from random play. it would accomplish several things, but most importantly:
1) allow testing to take place without interrupting current $ flow by totally removing squads from random. 2) a new game dynamic where clans get rating points based on winning, but gaining almost nothing for a win against a lowbie clan. It means new , fresh competition for all levels.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 27, 2021 9:32:31 GMT -5
I whole heartedly agree with the thrust of this post. And im glad ppl still take the time to vent this. warning new players to not invest. And..As i have said before: You don't even have to be in a squad to get MM stomped. I was up against PERU 5 or 6 times per day every day. Although i do have to say the MM has changed dramatically since i left Shameroom platform. now on my.games, i see a heavy hitting enemy like once per day, instead of the majority of my games. So thats a plus. still problematic though, and pushes people away as the OP says. EASY FIX FOR PIX: Clan war season, exclusive prizes that attract whales. 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. That means for 2 weeks, clans/squads will be removed from random play. it would accomplish several things, but most importantly: 1) allow testing to take place without interrupting current $ flow by totally removing squads from random. 2) a new game dynamic where clans get rating points based on winning, but gaining almost nothing for a win against a lowbie clan. It means new , fresh competition for all levels. All of which would require Pix looking at something other than current system of immediate profit based upon short term supply and demand that is easily manipulated and has been working for several years now.
Power gap is too large between F2P/Minnows and Dolphins, not to mention Whales. There is just no way to turn this game into a fair or competitive system without there being a huge change in the way they do a LOT of things. Real weapon/bot/ability/drone balancing and a real strength + performance based MM are key ingredients to bringing that back, IMO, and neither will happen without a change of leadership at Pixo HQ.
This game has become more of a farming, bot builder game, than a competitive shooter. Unfortunately.
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Post by games on May 30, 2021 11:47:55 GMT -5
I whole heartedly agree with the thrust of this post. And im glad ppl still take the time to vent this. warning new players to not invest. And..As i have said before: You don't even have to be in a squad to get MM stomped. I was up against PERU 5 or 6 times per day every day. Although i do have to say the MM has changed dramatically since i left Shameroom platform. now on my.games, i see a heavy hitting enemy like once per day, instead of the majority of my games. So thats a plus. still problematic though, and pushes people away as the OP says. EASY FIX FOR PIX: Clan war season, exclusive prizes that attract whales. 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. That means for 2 weeks, clans/squads will be removed from random play. it would accomplish several things, but most importantly: 1) allow testing to take place without interrupting current $ flow by totally removing squads from random. 2) a new game dynamic where clans get rating points based on winning, but gaining almost nothing for a win against a lowbie clan. It means new , fresh competition for all levels. All of which would require Pix looking at something other than current system of immediate profit based upon short term supply and demand that is easily manipulated and has been working for several years now.
Power gap is too large between F2P/Minnows and Dolphins, not to mention Whales. There is just no way to turn this game into a fair or competitive system without there being a huge change in the way they do a LOT of things. Real weapon/bot/ability/drone balancing and a real strength + performance based MM are key ingredients to bringing that back, IMO, and neither will happen without a change of leadership at Pixo HQ.
This game has become more of a farming, bot builder game, than a competitive shooter. Unfortunately.
I think they could add/pilot some new features and keep what they have going now without somehow reinventing their business. remember, bad MM does cause people to tire out and rage quit. there is a market there for pix, its just a matter of initiating it properly without upsetting the current system too badly.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 12:30:37 GMT -5
All of which would require Pix looking at something other than current system of immediate profit based upon short term supply and demand that is easily manipulated and has been working for several years now.
Power gap is too large between F2P/Minnows and Dolphins, not to mention Whales. There is just no way to turn this game into a fair or competitive system without there being a huge change in the way they do a LOT of things. Real weapon/bot/ability/drone balancing and a real strength + performance based MM are key ingredients to bringing that back, IMO, and neither will happen without a change of leadership at Pixo HQ.
This game has become more of a farming, bot builder game, than a competitive shooter. Unfortunately.
I think they could add/pilot some new features and keep what they have going now without somehow reinventing their business. remember, bad MM does cause people to tire out and rage quit. there is a market there for pix, its just a matter of initiating it properly without upsetting the current system too badly. This is good, and well presented. I play other games with Clans, and EVERY one of them have 1.) Limited squad-either 2 or 3 players, and EVERY match has a matching numbered squad on red.....might be stronger or weaker, but only in War Robots have I seen any squad play go against randos.....2.) Clan Wars/Tournament play.....one example is 4 man teams, same clan, and the clan can enter as many 4 man teams as are available during the Tourny......each team gets 3 battles, all points added up for total Clan points.....another was 7v7 game, so Clan can make up multiple 7 man teams, drops for a best 3 of 5 battles. Hella fun, a great reason to be in a Clan, and Clan status is based on how many in clan participates, as well as how well they do winning matches or gaining points per round. Not War Robots, though......nope......
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