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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Apr 3, 2021 10:36:43 GMT -5
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Post by T-Town Striker on Apr 3, 2021 11:04:16 GMT -5
I started a Hades build after watching Steels play, waiting on an discount AG upgrade to continue.
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Post by 乃ㄥ卂乙 on Apr 3, 2021 11:17:42 GMT -5
Scorpion PTSD Nice video, wonderworker defo looks like something i should look into! I play leadhose Hades, my 3rd favorite robot, after shotgun Strider and leadhose Ao Guang.
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Apr 3, 2021 11:44:58 GMT -5
I started a Hades build after watching Steels play, waiting on an discount AG upgrade to continue. I think the bot starts to really shine at 1.11...this should be a quality build, especially with this pilot. Obviously going to be better on certain maps but should be a strong addition
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Apr 3, 2021 11:47:23 GMT -5
Scorpion PTSD Nice video, wonderworker defo looks like something i should look into! I play leadhose Hades, my 3rd favorite robot, after shotgun Strider and leadhose Ao Guang. I’d say wonder worker is top 3 skill (with road hog and armor expert) and one I’ll always focus on acquiring. Especially since it allows you to utilize other active modules ‘easier’
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Apr 3, 2021 13:23:17 GMT -5
I started a Hades build after watching Steels play, waiting on an discount AG upgrade to continue. Same here, he makes a compelling case for the Hades.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Apr 3, 2021 13:34:28 GMT -5
Fun vid ʂɬɛɛƖ. Dontcha hate it when you hit AH when you’re Last Stand is running? Ugh.
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Apr 3, 2021 13:52:24 GMT -5
Fun vid ʂɬɛɛƖ . Dontcha hate it when you hit AH when you’re Last Stand is running? Ugh. I always curse myself when I do something in last stand. But here I healed and used my shield🤦🏼♂️ with the revitalizing defenders, I get mad at myself when I heal and use my shield too (unless I’m just upping my damage).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 20:46:56 GMT -5
Thanks for the vid....Hades has been a mainstay for me since they came out. I really appreciate its agility and corner shooting ability. If you have a minute, maybe evaluate mine, keeping in mind I usually don’t promote pilots past Sgt, due to costs. Thanks for your efforts!
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Apr 3, 2021 22:56:28 GMT -5
Thanks for the vid....Hades has been a mainstay for me since they came out. I really appreciate its agility and corner shooting ability. If you have a minute, maybe evaluate mine, keeping in mind I usually don’t promote pilots past Sgt, due to costs. Thanks for your efforts! I know resources are an issue, but if you can swing it I’d promote and get armor expert. I’d also get both of those skills to T3. I think the investment is well worth it. You can totally stop there. Nothing else is game changing. Other than that, just keep leveling your weapons. What mods are you running?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 23:00:59 GMT -5
After the video and your advise, I pulled the trigger.....the mods are stock, after weapons I’ll work on those. The Quarker is cooking to 1.8 now. Thanks for your time! I also started to WS a second Hades, I have BBQ in storage for it, and love the BBQ Fen action.
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Apr 4, 2021 7:11:48 GMT -5
After the video and your advise, I pulled the trigger.....the mods are stock, after weapons I’ll work on those. The Quarker is cooking to 1.8 now. Thanks for your time! I also started to WS a second Hades, I have BBQ in storage for it, and love the BBQ Fen action. Awesome. Stock mods are fine and cheap to level. I’d advise this too (when possible)
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Post by Jeb on Apr 7, 2021 13:25:23 GMT -5
This pilot has been working really well for me.
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Apr 7, 2021 15:10:06 GMT -5
This pilot has been working really well for me. Yep, you’ve got the big 4, and max level (for non legendary) anything past those 4 are gravy...
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Post by ironstar on Apr 8, 2021 3:30:37 GMT -5
I've run a Hades for ages. For a long time halos and redeemer, then shredders and nucleon. With the double weapon nerf and introduction of demeters and rushing shells that explode through my purple shield unfortunately I have had to shelve it. Maybe a new weapon combo and perhaps a shell nerf could bring it back though.
Was always my favourite bot.
Edit: Oh and the fact that the inbuilt gun is bugged and often fires blanks, and that this has been an issue since the release of Remastered and STILL not fixed bothers me immensely
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Apr 8, 2021 7:04:06 GMT -5
I've run a Hades for ages. For a long time halos and redeemer, then shredders and nucleon. With the double weapon nerf and introduction of demeters and rushing shells that explode through my purple shield unfortunately I have had to shelve it. Maybe a new weapon combo and perhaps a shell nerf could bring it back though. Was always my favorite bot Edit: Oh and the fact that the inbuilt gun is bugged and often fires blanks, and that this has been an issue since the release of Remastered and STILL not fixed bothers me immensely Shells, Demeters, anything...
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Post by Poopface on Apr 8, 2021 7:34:37 GMT -5
I used to run a Hades for a while. I'm sure there are any number of reasons for it, but I never enjoyed it. I found the gun always triggered too slowly after activating the shield allowing my target to get into cover. It also never did enough damage to justify the extreme cost to level up. I'm sure there are any number of reasons for my lack of success.
Now? I suppose I could cobble something together in the FU variety, but for now I don't have anything sufficiently leveled to justify it. 52M for 1/11 for a mech I've never found success with?
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Apr 8, 2021 8:11:24 GMT -5
I used to run a Hades for a while. I'm sure there are any number of reasons for it, but I never enjoyed it. I found the gun always triggered too slowly after activating the shield allowing my target to get into cover. It also never did enough damage to justify the extreme cost to level up. I'm sure there are any number of reasons for my lack of success.
Now? I suppose I could cobble something together in the FU variety, but for now I don't have anything sufficiently leveled to justify it. 52M for 1/11 for a mech I've never found success with?
You’ve got everything you need in those photos... but if you don’t enjoy it, well can’t help you there
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Post by Poopface on Apr 8, 2021 8:13:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I figure I must be doing something wrong. Everyone else seems to be enjoying it. I'm baffled.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 9:35:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I figure I must be doing something wrong. Everyone else seems to be enjoying it. I'm baffled. Best way for me to put it is it is the workin’ mans’ brawler....must constantly be moving, watching, able to corner shoot, etc.....I really need to be on my toes to do well with Hades, since it is not full of bad magic(small sized panties and pew pew) nor some powerful instakill bot. I love the way it moves, and how this bot challenges me to play the game well. Otherwise, it dies fast, and is not much fun......all of this may lead as to why I even enjoy, and have some success, with Orkan Spectre. Always positioning, ever watchful, then pounce! For me, these bots suit me.
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Post by ismsean on Apr 12, 2021 10:01:47 GMT -5
I love this bot. Thanks for the vids@Steel that you post on the Tube. This is my first drop and does well vs everything minus Demeters.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 12:04:59 GMT -5
I used to run a Hades for a while. I'm sure there are any number of reasons for it, but I never enjoyed it. I found the gun always triggered too slowly after activating the shield allowing my target to get into cover. It also never did enough damage to justify the extreme cost to level up. I'm sure there are any number of reasons for my lack of success.
Something I, myself, seem to always forget, and rarely mentioned in Hades discussions, is the pop gun can fire immediately if the ability button is tapped soon after the first activation of those colorful panties. I just double checked this in custom, and it seems it auto fire after around 3-3.5 seconds....but stop mashing BRB and tap ability again, and it pops right away......maybe someday I can add this skill to my toolbox. BRB is just sooooo big! Add: My BBQ build also used LD ammo, so that takes care of my forgetfulness.........EMG has Quantum Radar, because I enjoy downing in flight Dragons and Healers.......
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Post by Jeb on Apr 12, 2021 12:09:24 GMT -5
I used to run a Hades for a while. I'm sure there are any number of reasons for it, but I never enjoyed it. I found the gun always triggered too slowly after activating the shield allowing my target to get into cover. It also never did enough damage to justify the extreme cost to level up. I'm sure there are any number of reasons for my lack of success.
Something I, myself, seem to always forget, and rarely mentioned in Hades discussions, is the pop gun can fire immediately if the ability button is tapped soon after the first activation of those colorful panties. I just double checked this in custom, and it seems it auto fire after around 3-3.5 seconds....but stop mashing BRB and tap ability again, and it pops right away......maybe someday I can add this skill to my toolbox. I have definitely gotten kills out close to max range with the built-in gun by manually triggering it as soon as I could. It's a nice back-pocket tool when your build is oriented around 300m ice rockets.
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Post by Poopface on Apr 14, 2021 14:18:52 GMT -5
I've been running my Hades during this infernal Icarus event. How do you cope with Scorpions?
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Apr 14, 2021 14:31:18 GMT -5
I've been running my Hades during this infernal Icarus event. How do you cope with Scorpions?
Single biggest key in dealing with scorpions is recognition. Obviously, they catch you unaware, then it’s a tough road to hoe. But if you know where they are and know they’re coming for you, move towards them as their ability activates. This will cause them to blink further back and typically outside of your shield. Additionally, Lockdown Ammo helps on my flame build, and I have revitalizing defender on my EMG build. Lastly is backpedaling or if you’re so inclined jump module. scorpions are issues for all bots, so this issue and advice is universal 🙃
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 18:14:12 GMT -5
If possible, when I counter Scorpion, and the coward blinks away, I go do me a bug hunt.....find it, squash it.
Love getting rid of those bugs....
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Post by Endobot on Apr 15, 2021 4:34:05 GMT -5
I've been running my Hades during this infernal Icarus event. How do you cope with Scorpions?
My Hades is one of my favorites and high levelled and does reasonably well against Scorpions. I try to save the ability until they attack then try keep them outside the shield and also PS. If they`re still there duke it out with the Sonics and usually survive until they`re gone and until the next attack. Much less survivable is encountering a Shell where you`re Sonics do no damage but his take you out in seconds. Regarding earlier posts; The delay in the gun firing can be a pain when you`re target disappears behind cover and I used to run LD before changing to PS but the power of the gun builds up as the shield takes fire and then it`s good to sometimes take them out with the 3 shots if they have just stood there firing at you.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Apr 20, 2021 6:47:52 GMT -5
Well I finally did it, I got my Hades and pilot and EMGs up to a level worth taking for a spin. Wow, that PPB (purple princess bubble) is addictive. I got in the face of a Nodens for quite a while and helped kill it. 8 second cool down is definitely doable. I replaced my Nightingale with the Hades which is unsettling for me. I have to evaluate and make sure that’s the correct long term plan. Except for Nodens I have no healer in the line-up. ʂɬɛɛƖ
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Apr 20, 2021 7:01:22 GMT -5
Well I finally did it, I got my Hades and pilot and EMGs up to a level worth taking for a spin. Wow, that PPB (purple princess bubble) is addictive. I got in the face of a Nodens for quite a while and helped kill it. 8 second cool down is definitely doable. I replaced my Nightingale with the Hades which is unsettling for me. I have to evaluate and make sure that’s the correct long term plan. Except for Nodens I have no healer in the line-up. ʂɬɛɛƖ Well, with the nodens you’re guaranteed healing honor. And if you don’t get into it, we’ll then I’d say you probably don’t need it. I also assume you’re hoping for a Demeter at some point, so the gale was on the outs in any event. other than that, welcome to the dark side🙃 when you have 2 is when you know the transformation is complete... then you’ll be working on your Arthur
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Apr 20, 2021 8:45:05 GMT -5
Well I finally did it, I got my Hades and pilot and EMGs up to a level worth taking for a spin. Wow, that PPB (purple princess bubble) is addictive. I got in the face of a Nodens for quite a while and helped kill it. 8 second cool down is definitely doable. I replaced my Nightingale with the Hades which is unsettling for me. I have to evaluate and make sure that’s the correct long term plan. Except for Nodens I have no healer in the line-up. ʂɬɛɛƖ Well, with the nodens you’re guaranteed healing honor. And if you don’t get into it, we’ll then I’d say you probably don’t need it. I also assume you’re hoping for a Demeter at some point, so the gale was on the outs in any event. other than that, welcome to the dark side🙃 when you have 2 is when you know the transformation is complete... then you’ll be working on your Arthur I have a Demeter at 1.9... waiting in the wings. No rush. I had the Hades at 2.4 without a pilot and I figured I'd play around with the Hades first. If Demeter is still a worthwhile thing a month or two from now I might put some more Ag into it. Still holding my breath for the new drones and their chips as well...
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