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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Feb 24, 2021 11:17:57 GMT -5
Well in the past coupla weeks I took a Shell to 2.4 with three maxed Fortifiers. (I figured I was safe with the fortifiers because they can move to a possible Typhon.)
I know everybody's all excited about Shells buuuuuut, man, I've shelved it as a first drop for my Phantom. I am so used Phantom as a first drop beacon runner that it just clicks with me. I'm no pro but between the mobility, drone, pilot, DR and my practice with the Phantom I'm way scarier to the Reds with my little speedster bot.
Admittedly my Shell pilot isn't maxed but who has the gold for that nowadays?
I'll probably revisit the Shell but I still loooove the Phantom. XOXOXO
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Post by Pilot #RG# on Feb 24, 2021 11:28:07 GMT -5
Shells are doing bad with fortifiers since many loading their bots with flames and cryos. Heavy Armor Kit seems to be doing better I guess. Btw, I am more excited about typhon and Demeter xD
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on Feb 24, 2021 11:30:44 GMT -5
Have a shell. Only 1 fortifier, and heavy armor(used what I have). I generally use it 3rd or 4th. Use a decorator and times. It's not op, but seems to hold on until calvary shows.
Yes. We are renaming the heavy sonic "the decorator." Lol. Hate autocorrect.
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Post by no pain 80 on Feb 24, 2021 11:34:55 GMT -5
Well in the past coupla weeks I took a Shell to 2.4 with three maxed Fortifiers. (I figured I was safe with the fortifiers because they can move to a possible Typhon.) I know everybody's all excited about Shells buuuuuut, man, I've shelved it as a first drop for my Phantom. I am so used Phantom as a first drop beacon runner that it just clicks with me. I'm no pro but between the mobility, drone, pilot, DR and my practice with the Phantom I'm way scarier to the Reds with my little speedster bot. Admittedly my Shell pilot isn't maxed but who has the gold for that nowadays? I'll probably revisit the Shell but I still loooove the Phantom. XOXOXO When I see Oliver on his Phantom Menace I go hide. Just kidding. I go face him and just die on the spot (that is the inevitable outcome of several such encounters).
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Feb 24, 2021 11:44:55 GMT -5
Well in the past coupla weeks I took a Shell to 2.4 with three maxed Fortifiers. (I figured I was safe with the fortifiers because they can move to a possible Typhon.) I know everybody's all excited about Shells buuuuuut, man, I've shelved it as a first drop for my Phantom. I am so used Phantom as a first drop beacon runner that it just clicks with me. I'm no pro but between the mobility, drone, pilot, DR and my practice with the Phantom I'm way scarier to the Reds with my little speedster bot. Admittedly my Shell pilot isn't maxed but who has the gold for that nowadays? I'll probably revisit the Shell but I still loooove the Phantom. XOXOXO When I see Oliver on his Phantom Menace I go hide. Just kidding. I go face him and just die on the spot (that is the inevitable outcome of several such encounters). "Phantom Menace" - LOL, thanks for the laugh. There's a guy in our clan, "Fatrat" who often says on discord, "Jeesh Ollie are you STILL alive in that Phantom?"
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Post by santaclaus on Feb 24, 2021 12:51:45 GMT -5
I'm having an insane time with my 1.10 shell. 3 fortifier at lvl3 and 2 rimes lvl11.
I have the pilot plus roadhog and I just run around like an idiot shooting everyone, spinningbanf jumping, oh yeah I have jumpjets on...
It's the only boy that has ever filled my Titan bar on its own.
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Post by Loganspawn on Feb 24, 2021 13:15:36 GMT -5
Like others have said flames hurt shells bad, one reason I run a Last Stand with two fortifiers on mine. I replaced my phantom with my shell for my starter bot and love it. I just don't go charging in like the old HB days though. Timing and situation are everything so I do not go charging in against bots at the wrong time or try to pick fights I cant win. I just turn and move on to another beacon. Oh and I was ready to pull mine until I put the jump module on now its fun. This has made it way more usable as a starter to me.
I run flames on my shell to counter other shells and tanks. I also run a Ravana flamer to fight shells. In champ play some games it seams like the shells never end. Myself I normally stay to one bot of each leveled.
I miss my phantom often but just by switching my win rate has gone up and stayed at least 10 to 15% higher. I found in champ play the phantom just loses out when it has to fight a bunch of shells and magic bots. OF course that it also depends on what other bots you are running/ have on what is best to use.
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Post by Garbage game on Feb 24, 2021 14:36:47 GMT -5
Well in the past coupla weeks I took a Shell to 2.4 with three maxed Fortifiers. (I figured I was safe with the fortifiers because they can move to a possible Typhon.) I know everybody's all excited about Shells buuuuuut, man, I've shelved it as a first drop for my Phantom. I am so used Phantom as a first drop beacon runner that it just clicks with me. I'm no pro but between the mobility, drone, pilot, DR and my practice with the Phantom I'm way scarier to the Reds with my little speedster bot. Admittedly my Shell pilot isn't maxed but who has the gold for that nowadays? I'll probably revisit the Shell but I still loooove the Phantom. XOXOXO I see Max Shells running into our spawn unimpeded and killing Blues all the time. My Phantom pretty much does nothing to them when we meet on center beacon
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Covid-19 Cure
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Posts: 111
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Pilot name: Covid-19 Cure
Platform: iOS
Clan: Swarm
League: Master
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Blitz
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Post by Covid-19 Cure on Feb 24, 2021 14:49:57 GMT -5
At least you guys are kinda doing damage. I spawn in and get OBLITERATED the second I drop. I love the turtles and hate them.
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Post by hi5 on Feb 24, 2021 15:30:21 GMT -5
I’m still a little shocked at how few run AC on their shells (full disclosure, I don’t have a shell myself). Been using LD mod on more bots lately (fire and ice to pierce the shield) because locking up a shell has been a good way to keep them at arms length, especially if they run sonic (200m) or flames (tuff to hit a moving target). But once they get into a beacon scrum that blast can be strong and hard to hold a beacon against.
But I’m already feeling like I’m heavy on splash and flame in my hangar to counter shells, so a little concerned about a flame nerf. Fully expect that to happen when napalm rockets release so I need to start strategizing where to go next now. The hellburner meta was furious, but faded out quickly. Thinking shell might do the same.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Feb 24, 2021 15:59:43 GMT -5
Well in the past coupla weeks I took a Shell to 2.4 with three maxed Fortifiers. (I figured I was safe with the fortifiers because they can move to a possible Typhon.) I know everybody's all excited about Shells buuuuuut, man, I've shelved it as a first drop for my Phantom. I am so used Phantom as a first drop beacon runner that it just clicks with me. I'm no pro but between the mobility, drone, pilot, DR and my practice with the Phantom I'm way scarier to the Reds with my little speedster bot. Admittedly my Shell pilot isn't maxed but who has the gold for that nowadays? I'll probably revisit the Shell but I still loooove the Phantom. XOXOXO I see Max Shells running into our spawn unimpeded and killing Blues all the time. My Phantom pretty much does nothing to them when we meet on center beacon Impossible to disagree with you. We've all seen it. In their nightmares as well. FWIW, wave after wave of shells come from those same old clans with very deep pockets. They had 3 Hawks each and now 3 Shells each. (*eyeroll*) These clans are propping up Pix so I guess I have to say thanks. I can't/won't keep up with them so I'm going to ride out this meta. Just this morning I dropped my Phantom and ran smack into a Shell on the concrete at Springfield, I don't remember getting a lot of help so it was mostly manno a manno. Because of the clan he was in the Shell was probably maxed. I managed to take him out because I spent PCs on health and suppressed the crap outta him every time he used his ability. That's how tasers help, they hit that sweet spot if he chooses to show it to you when he's using his ability. No, this doesn't happen all the time, but it was nice affirmation that I won't necessarily get obliterated in a 1 v 1 situation with a Shell.
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Post by slugpug on Feb 24, 2021 23:43:10 GMT -5
I just got run over by a full VoX “meh” shell squad complete with the beloved Adriiiiiiiiiiiiian. Gave em one and then took the dogs out to go poo...
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Post by leech2 on Feb 25, 2021 0:37:46 GMT -5
I just got run over by a full VoX “meh” shell squad complete with the beloved Adriiiiiiiiiiiiian. Gave em one and then took the dogs out to go poo... Im just curios. What setup were you running? Because adrian says he will be nice to non meta setups in the enemy team and not butcher them like he does to other setups.
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Post by Garbage game on Feb 25, 2021 0:47:36 GMT -5
I see Max Shells running into our spawn unimpeded and killing Blues all the time. My Phantom pretty much does nothing to them when we meet on center beacon Impossible to disagree with you. We've all seen it. In their nightmares as well. FWIW, wave after wave of shells come from those same old clans with very deep pockets. They had 3 Hawks each and now 3 Shells each. (*eyeroll*) These clans are propping up Pix so I guess I have to say thanks. I can't/won't keep up with them so I'm going to ride out this meta. Just this morning I dropped my Phantom and ran smack into a Shell on the concrete at Springfield, I don't remember getting a lot of help so it was mostly manno a manno. Because of the clan he was in the Shell was probably maxed. I managed to take him out because I spent PCs on health and suppressed the crap outta him every time he used his ability. That's how tasers help, they hit that sweet spot if he chooses to show it to you when he's using his ability. No, this doesn't happen all the time, but it was nice affirmation that I won't necessarily get obliterated in a 1 v 1 situation with a Shell. It's not even full squads most the time. If I see a Whale on the other side they're usually sowing chaos in spawn with 4 random Blues trying fruitlessly to kill them while we get 4capped. Yeah I occasionally get to shoot the gap a bit, you take off 25% of their health and ability ends. Then they kill you with Sonics lol. I run a Taser Phantom as well. Adv healing might have to go because of the prevalence of Sonics on Shells. If Pix wanted to be propped up financially they would allow unllimited ads and collect ad revenue for ages. Everyone would probably watch that stack of 5g for 1 ad/10g for 2 ad thing they have piled up in the task menu. They are just being greedy and want to squeeze their whales.
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Post by slugpug on Feb 25, 2021 3:00:36 GMT -5
I just got run over by a full VoX “meh” shell squad complete with the beloved Adriiiiiiiiiiiiian. Gave em one and then took the dogs out to go poo... Im just curios. What setup were you running? Because adrian says he will be nice to non meta setups in the enemy team and not butcher them like he does to other setups. You really thinks he takes it “easy” on trash bots when he’s running with his buds? I can see it on coms now....”hey guys...take it easy on those non meta bots, let’s get this match to at least last two minutes and seventeen seconds” Yah...I don’t think so Whenever a full whale clan drops I respond with the full on troll Cerb
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Feb 25, 2021 7:24:02 GMT -5
I just got run over by a full VoX “meh” shell squad complete with the beloved Adriiiiiiiiiiiiian. Gave em one and then took the dogs out to go poo... Im just curios. What setup were you running? Because adrian says he will be nice to non meta setups in the enemy team and not butcher them like he does to other setups. yeah, Adrian says a lot of things
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Post by Jeb on Feb 25, 2021 9:27:59 GMT -5
Im just curios. What setup were you running? Because adrian says he will be nice to non meta setups in the enemy team and not butcher them like he does to other setups. You really thinks he takes it “easy” on trash bots when he’s running with his buds? I can see it on coms now....”hey guys...take it easy on those non meta bots, let’s get this match to at least last two minutes and seventeen seconds” Yah...I don’t think so It wasn't VOX but I did see a squad do that a day or two ago...stringing the match out by not quite taking beacons, running around in circles, and that was with one of their own on the Blues too. Then they got past a certain time point and flattened the Blues.
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Post by Jeb on Feb 25, 2021 9:29:43 GMT -5
I swapped out the L10 Atomizer on my Cerb for a 2.12 Punisher-T (matching the one on there previously). Still got the Nucleon on top. I hope it helps crack the Shells faster. I haven't had many chances to try it out yet but it should do a decent job.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Feb 25, 2021 9:34:40 GMT -5
This morning ran into the Thai #1 clan and they rolled my Blue-buddies and I pretty hard. Single Shells don't freak me out but wave after wave of them do. Mark my words, Shell will get nerfed. This too shall pass and the deep-pocket boys will buy a lot of the next OP thing.
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Post by santaclaus on Feb 25, 2021 17:48:49 GMT -5
This morning ran into the Thai #1 clan and they rolled my Blue-buddies and I pretty hard. Single Shells don't freak me out but wave after wave of them do. Mark my words, Shell will get nerfed. This too shall pass and the deep-pocket boys will buy a lot of the next OP thing. Lol thatbsicls for me because I am almost at mk2shell on no money. This is the closest one ever been to utilizing meta in its time. Oh sure I won the leech the day it dropped, but I didn't have resources to level it past 7 at the time. By the time I got to level 9mk1 it was obsolete already.
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Feb 26, 2021 8:21:37 GMT -5
Well, a couple thing here: 1) VØX doesn’t have a shell squad. There’s a couple guys that have 2, most have 1 and there are some that don’t have 1 at all... the known fact that VØX isn’t a crazy meta clan is what first drew me in and is something I’m now proud to be a part of. 2) I can’t say it happens 100% of the time with all our squads, but I can say it for ones with Adrian in it- when he’s driving (and if he’s in, he’s driving) the match search is stopped at 20 seconds and restarted so we only catch squads. We’ve been doing this for a few months now. The only problem is that squads start at 3 and it doesn’t matter the strength of who’s together if someone high enough can drag everyone to champs. It not a perfect system, but we’ve done our part to try and avoid clubbing. Contrary to the opinion held by many, it’s not enjoyable and not what we’re looking for. Everyone who’s played this game has been clubbed. I’m not saying there aren’t those that have no issues with it, but I can say the people I squad with on a daily basis really want no part. We want good fights 3) if we wind up in a match and we come to the realization that the enemy is very weak, Adrian will basically stop shooting. There’s many matches where the only damage he gets is from healing. If we have people ditch and only a couple guys fight, we’ll give those guys damage (even tho people stop shooting). We try to be good for the game...
I can’t say we don’t spawn raid people, we do. We can’t help matchmaking. But as someone with no hawk, 1 shell and first hand knowledge, I’d try set the record straight...
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Post by Loganspawn on Feb 26, 2021 9:41:20 GMT -5
Well, a couple thing here: 1) VÃX doesnât have a shell squad. Thereâs a couple guys that have 2, most have 1 and there are some that donât have 1 at all... the known fact that VÃX isnât a crazy meta clan is what first drew me in and is something Iâm now proud to be a part of. 2) I canât say it happens 100% of the time with all our squads, but I can say it for ones with Adrian in it- when heâs driving (and if heâs in, heâs driving) the match search is stopped at 20 seconds and restarted so we only catch squads. Weâve been doing this for a few months now. The only problem is that squads start at 3 and it doesnât matter the strength of whoâs together if someone high enough can drag everyone to champs. It not a perfect system, but weâve done our part to try and avoid clubbing. Contrary to the opinion held by many, itâs not enjoyable and not what weâre looking for. Everyone whoâs played this game has been clubbed. Iâm not saying there arenât those that have no issues with it, but I can say the people I squad with on a daily basis really want no part. We want good fights 3) if we wind up in a match and we come to the realization that the enemy is very weak, Adrian will basically stop shooting. Thereâs many matches where the only damage he gets is from healing. If we have people ditch and only a couple guys fight, weâll give those guys damage (even tho people stop shooting). We try to be good for the game... I canât say we donât spawn raid people, we do. We canât help matchmaking. But as someone with no hawk, 1 shell and first hand knowledge, Iâd try set the record straight... Hear hear! Much respect to Vox keep it rocking. Not all S clans are 「bum-bum chapeau」s.
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Post by Loganspawn on Feb 26, 2021 9:43:52 GMT -5
You really thinks he takes it “easy” on trash bots when he’s running with his buds? I can see it on coms now....”hey guys...take it easy on those non meta bots, let’s get this match to at least last two minutes and seventeen seconds” Yah...I don’t think so It wasn't VOX but I did see a squad do that a day or two ago...stringing the match out by not quite taking beacons, running around in circles, and that was with one of their own on the Blues too. Then they got past a certain time point and flattened the Blues. Yes you wont get keys and much in the way of any rewards if you end the game too soon. Also if in squad and we find most reds not fighting or running away we will often let the red who is playing and trying to play kill us get some silver out of respect for him.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Feb 26, 2021 9:49:33 GMT -5
2) I can’t say it happens 100% of the time with all our squads, but I can say it for ones with Adrian in it- when he’s driving (and if he’s in, he’s driving) the match search is stopped at 20 seconds and restarted so we only catch squads. We’ve been doing this for a few months now. I heard Adrian mention the above in one of his vids. And I thought, "Cool, that makes sense, well done." Thanks for raising that point. TBH, four or more red V0X guys is going to make for a grind of a match. But I have noticed a variety in V0X bots whenever I play a V0X person. Shoot, the other day I noticed you had two Hades in your Hangar which kinda nobody does. Respect. Find your niche and have fun.
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Feb 26, 2021 10:01:50 GMT -5
2) I can’t say it happens 100% of the time with all our squads, but I can say it for ones with Adrian in it- when he’s driving (and if he’s in, he’s driving) the match search is stopped at 20 seconds and restarted so we only catch squads. We’ve been doing this for a few months now. I heard Adrian mention the above in one of his vids. And I thought, "Cool, that makes sense, well done." Thanks for raising that point. TBH, four or more red V0X guys is going to make for a grind of a match. But I have noticed a variety in V0X bots whenever I play a V0X person. Shoot, the other day I noticed you had two Hades in your Hangar which kinda nobody does. Respect. Find your niche and have fun. Like I say, the majority of us enjoy diversity in our hangar. It’s more fun and it helps when the eventual nerf hammer comes. I really love the hades, I think it’s my favorite bot now (overtaking my beloved blitz). I started running 2 to try and survive hawks (as I don’t have one), and it’s just kinda stuck. Eventually I’d like to get back to just one, but then again maybe not...lol
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Feb 26, 2021 10:07:14 GMT -5
As for the shell, I’d definitely go with mods other than fortifiers. As was noted, many are running weapons to counter, so the value of stronger shield is lost. The only way I’d run that mod is if I was running ancile as well. Also, no reason to force it as opener. I never drop mine first. And if phantom is your favorite and it is effective, don’t take it out. Run what you like, not what the meta says you ‘should’
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Post by santaclaus on Feb 26, 2021 12:18:21 GMT -5
As for the shell, I’d definitely go with mods other than fortifiers. As was noted, many are running weapons to counter, so the value of stronger shield is lost. The only way I’d run that mod is if I was running ancile as well. Also, no reason to force it as opener. I never drop mine first. And if phantom is your favorite and it is effective, don’t take it out. Run what you like, not what the meta says you ‘should’ I so use ancile, should I keep it as is? I'm scared to experiment right now because I'm worried I will slip back to diamond.
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Feb 26, 2021 12:28:18 GMT -5
As for the shell, I’d definitely go with mods other than fortifiers. As was noted, many are running weapons to counter, so the value of stronger shield is lost. The only way I’d run that mod is if I was running ancile as well. Also, no reason to force it as opener. I never drop mine first. And if phantom is your favorite and it is effective, don’t take it out. Run what you like, not what the meta says you ‘should’ I so use ancile, should I keep it as is? I'm scared to experiment right now because I'm worried I will slip back to diamond. I’d 100% be using fortifiers with ancile. You’re strengthening both the physical and ancile with them. Ancile blocks everything but flames as fas as direct counters. It’s a solid build. if you’re concerned about your ranking, the top 2 things to do is 1) make sure you are getting as many beacons as you possible can and 2)make sure you have a healing bot and have it in your drop order where it’ll get played (and make sure you heal someone)...
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Post by Loganspawn on Feb 26, 2021 12:56:28 GMT -5
As for the shell, I’d definitely go with mods other than fortifiers. As was noted, many are running weapons to counter, so the value of stronger shield is lost. The only way I’d run that mod is if I was running ancile as well. Also, no reason to force it as opener. I never drop mine first. And if phantom is your favorite and it is effective, don’t take it out. Run what you like, not what the meta says you ‘should’ I so use ancile, should I keep it as is? I'm scared to experiment right now because I'm worried I will slip back to diamond. Have fun, experiment dont worry about it. If just experimenting a little will push you back it might be good. Just play where the game places you. That is allot more fun than having to stay in champ playing the Pix gotcha game.
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Post by slugpug on Feb 26, 2021 20:00:41 GMT -5
I heard Adrian mention the above in one of his vids. And I thought, "Cool, that makes sense, well done." Thanks for raising that point. TBH, four or more red V0X guys is going to make for a grind of a match. But I have noticed a variety in V0X bots whenever I play a V0X person. Shoot, the other day I noticed you had two Hades in your Hangar which kinda nobody does. Respect. Find your niche and have fun. Like I say, the majority of us enjoy diversity in our hangar. It’s more fun and it helps when the eventual nerf hammer comes. I really love the hades, I think it’s my favorite bot now (overtaking my beloved blitz). I started running 2 to try and survive hawks (as I don’t have one), and it’s just kinda stuck. Eventually I’d like to get back to just one, but then again maybe not...lol No shells eh? Just ran into you a few minutes ago...gg!
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