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Post by Danny Linguini on Feb 18, 2021 11:56:35 GMT -5
I’m just curious here ... I’m seeing more and more maxed out hangars, with multiple maxed Killshots and panthers, carbines, SB‘s, LA’s, railguns, etc, on players with a fraction of my XP. I have over 200k XP, NOTHING is close to maxed, just a few R5’s (Lancer and javs), mostly R4’s, and even a few R3 still. Earlier I had spent a few $$$ here and there on those $5 and $10 offers that used to give a ton of a-coins, probably in the area of $50 total, but have spent nothing recently. At most I could put together a 2200-ish hangar right now if I ran all 5 of my most upgraded gear, but I’m seeing players with under 100k XP and hangars well into the 3000’s. I know some of these players are in here, and I know they had to have spent significantly more than me to have such advanced hangars with so little XP. Ballpark is fine, but I really want to know what I’d have to dump into this pile if I decided I wanted to ‘catch up’ to these ridiculous hangars I keep getting matched up against.
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Feb 18, 2021 12:40:41 GMT -5
Thought you stepped away?
I've spent $0 and dont plan to anytime soon.
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on Feb 18, 2021 12:59:10 GMT -5
Spent a little at the start. But, riding a plateau that you talked about. I advanced and got my wish of better opponents(lol, Ai beatdowns).
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Post by Koalabear on Feb 18, 2021 13:04:37 GMT -5
When they put the Prodigy Crate back, I bought that and I bought the Basic Pack with 1200 A-coins. I really only buy these when I have a solid plan that I'm trying to accomplish, like ranking up my Guardian to do the Thanos build, or ranking up my SB12 to run duals.
Right now, I only have a vague idea of getting CB12 and ranking that up to R6 and running dual CB12 on a Redox, but that plan is very far in the future cause it would take a while, so I'm in no rush. Besides, I'm happy with my hangar for now.
In every game there will always be people who can and will spend a lot. The nice thing about this game is that it's easy to find out who and then send them a friend request. BTW, if you don't see these people on your Recommended List after playing with them, then that means they're AI. (I think)
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Feb 18, 2021 14:13:17 GMT -5
When they put the Prodigy Crate back, I bought that and I bought the Basic Pack with 1200 A-coins. I really only buy these when I have a solid plan that I'm trying to accomplish, like ranking up my Guardian to do the Thanos build, or ranking up my SB12 to run duals. Right now, I only have a vague idea of getting CB12 and ranking that up to R6 and running dual CB12 on a Redox, but that plan is very far in the future cause it would take a while, so I'm in no rush. Besides, I'm happy with my hangar for now. In every game there will always be people who can and will spend a lot. The nice thing about this game is that it's easy to find out who and then send them a friend request. BTW, if you don't see these people on your Recommended List after playing with them, then that means they're AI. (I think) For what this game is, being that I've spent zero dollars I'm actually able to hang with even some of the big spenders. Especially if you can team with other people. When I run with you, Deadeye, old_cat, Atom, and quite a few others even if we run into full teams we can usually make it a match. Are their times I get steamrolled of course, but its still a vastly different beat down path than War Robots became over the years. For what it is the balance in this game is thought through fairly well, the match making seems to be getting better than worse and knowing my match ups and if I engage or go find someone else to pick on usually helps a lot. Look past the fact my KS has a life span on average of 10 seconds because I always seem to put it in the worst spot ever... |
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Post by mechtout on Feb 18, 2021 15:13:02 GMT -5
I initially bought the $3 Jav6, $15 MR8, and $3 Ares, plus a couple of Acoin deals, but stopped spending since then. Been focusing on the Guardian, Panther, and Killshot, while acquiring the highest energy weapons. So far have things around R5, i think blueprints are the main thing holding me back. I dont want to spend the Acoins to speed up blueprints.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Feb 18, 2021 17:57:48 GMT -5
Thought you stepped away? I've spent $0 and dont plan to anytime soon. I did. Then for some reason that still defies logic I reinstalled, but with 3 rules: no spending, no soloing, and no grinding. I am not chasing events or challenges, only playing when I feel like it and there’s somebody online to team with. I’m getting nowhere fast as far as upgrading anything, but at least most of the games are fun, where going solo most of them suck. Like I said in another thread, I’m not paying any more to be a guinea pig for a game that’s still in beta. Finish this sucker up, fix the crap that NEEDS fixing, and then if I like what I see I’ll gladly support it. But as for the topic, none of you guys are the ones I’m talking about - you all have reasonable strength hangars in relation to your XP’s. I’m talking about players with under 100k XP and hangars around 3000 or more, with the high-end weapons doubled up and maxed out, and one or two mechs doubled and maxed. You don’t grind your way to a hangar like that with only 80k XP. I want to know what it took to get there. |
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Post by punishingcossack on Feb 18, 2021 18:34:56 GMT -5
I've spent about $750-900 or so. 3300 hangar, 192k experience, ~4 months regular player.
I late start every tournament heat, and I've won every GM heat except for 2 in the last 3 months or so. I get 1st place in 86% of my heats, so I've gotten a lot of resources to upgrade things with.
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Post by Koalabear on Feb 19, 2021 8:35:58 GMT -5
When they put the Prodigy Crate back, I bought that and I bought the Basic Pack with 1200 A-coins. I really only buy these when I have a solid plan that I'm trying to accomplish, like ranking up my Guardian to do the Thanos build, or ranking up my SB12 to run duals. Right now, I only have a vague idea of getting CB12 and ranking that up to R6 and running dual CB12 on a Redox, but that plan is very far in the future cause it would take a while, so I'm in no rush. Besides, I'm happy with my hangar for now. In every game there will always be people who can and will spend a lot. The nice thing about this game is that it's easy to find out who and then send them a friend request. BTW, if you don't see these people on your Recommended List after playing with them, then that means they're AI. (I think) For what this game is, being that I've spent zero dollars I'm actually able to hang with even some of the big spenders. Especially if you can team with other people. When I run with you, Deadeye, old_cat, Atom, and quite a few others even if we run into full teams we can usually make it a match. Are their times I get steamrolled of course, but its still a vastly different beat down path than War Robots became over the years. For what it is the balance in this game is thought through fairly well, the match making seems to be getting better than worse and knowing my match ups and if I engage or go find someone else to pick on usually helps a lot. Look past the fact my KS has a life span on average of 10 seconds because I always seem to put it in the worst spot ever... Agreed. Everything is achievable in this game with patience. I spend cause I don't have patience. As for the KS, yeah, mine dies really fast too. Against human players, an overly aggressive glass cannon is still a glass cannon. I do find that I stay alive longer in CPC games with PC8 set up thought cause I'm forced to keep my distance longer and whittle down my target's HP. I think I will eventually replace my KS, even though it's the best damn CP capturing mech in the game - well at least for those initial CPs I can usually beat my team mates out of the gate and get two sometimes three. Four is not unheard of in some maps too. The more I look at the Redox, the more I like it. Something about it just appeals to me I guess, so I'm saving up my A-coins again and doing some spending on the packs. My deal to myself is to get the CB12 first and just as I'm about to rank it to R6, I'll get the Redox so that I can run it out of the gate with dual CB12s. It should take me a few months I think but it's something to look forward to. The only crimp in the plan is if/when they release the disc launcher weapon. I can't wait to see how it performs! And if there's a 12EN variant, I may save for that instead. |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Feb 19, 2021 9:06:04 GMT -5
When they put the Prodigy Crate back, I bought that and I bought the Basic Pack with 1200 A-coins. I really only buy these when I have a solid plan that I'm trying to accomplish, like ranking up my Guardian to do the Thanos build, or ranking up my SB12 to run duals. Right now, I only have a vague idea of getting CB12 and ranking that up to R6 and running dual CB12 on a Redox, but that plan is very far in the future cause it would take a while, so I'm in no rush. Besides, I'm happy with my hangar for now. In every game there will always be people who can and will spend a lot. The nice thing about this game is that it's easy to find out who and then send them a friend request. BTW, if you don't see these people on your Recommended List after playing with them, then that means they're AI. (I think) For what this game is, being that I've spent zero dollars I'm actually able to hang with even some of the big spenders. Especially if you can team with other people. When I run with you, Deadeye, old_cat, Atom, and quite a few others even if we run into full teams we can usually make it a match. Are their times I get steamrolled of course, but its still a vastly different beat down path than War Robots became over the years. For what it is the balance in this game is thought through fairly well, the match making seems to be getting better than worse and knowing my match ups and if I engage or go find someone else to pick on usually helps a lot. Look past the fact my KS has a life span on average of 10 seconds because I always seem to put it in the worst spot ever... And that’s why I’ve decided no more solo games. We had some great matches last night (thanks for the invites!), with mostly similarly-powered hangars, all in the 1800-2000 range, and those games were huge fun. For some reason, matchmaker just doesn’t like me very much when I’m alone, but things settle down to good competition when I’m with a team. As for upgrades, I’ve given up on having any kind of strategy or long term plan. I have 4 mechs now that are fun and really strong in their own ways, and at the moment I have no idea which of them I’m going to upgrade next. Or if I’ll put upgrades on hold and collect a crap-ton of resources to acquire the next level of weapons. I just don’t know - it will probably come down to whatever mood I’m in when I do finally get enough resources to do anything. Right now everything needs a LOT to get to the next level or rank, and I’m nowhere close to having enough for any of them. |
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Post by Munki on Feb 23, 2021 16:20:50 GMT -5
I’m just curious here ... I’m seeing more and more maxed out hangars, with multiple maxed Killshots and panthers, carbines, SB‘s, LA’s, railguns, etc, on players with a fraction of my XP. I have over 200k XP, NOTHING is close to maxed, just a few R5’s (Lancer and javs), mostly R4’s, and even a few R3 still. Earlier I had spent a few $$$ here and there on those $5 and $10 offers that used to give a ton of a-coins, probably in the area of $50 total, but have spent nothing recently. At most I could put together a 2200-ish hangar right now if I ran all 5 of my most upgraded gear, but I’m seeing players with under 100k XP and hangars well into the 3000’s. I know some of these players are in here, and I know they had to have spent significantly more than me to have such advanced hangars with so little XP. Ballpark is fine, but I really want to know what I’d have to dump into this pile if I decided I wanted to ‘catch up’ to these ridiculous hangars I keep getting matched up against. Danny, the awful truth about this game's rank ups is that the most expensive mechs to rank up are the light ones like Lancer, M.D., Shadow, and Cheetah. The Lancer is THE MOST EXPENSIVE mech to rank up to 6 overall. I would have loved to rank that up but man, it would have taken away from ranking up the Panther and Killshot. Get those two to rank 6 and there are 4 bots in your hanger right there. Or some could go really cheap and rank up only Panther and Guardian as they are much less expensive to rank up. I think a fair amount of the players you see did purchase at least one of their Carb setups. Those along with Railgun would take quite a while to get the needed A-Coins or Credits by just playing. However, there are now other game modes to play like 2 v 2 and the non-tournament TDM modes that should still offer some gameplay. |
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Post by Munki on Feb 23, 2021 16:31:25 GMT -5
Thought you stepped away? I've spent $0 and dont plan to anytime soon. I did. Then for some reason that still defies logic I reinstalled, but with 3 rules: no spending, no soloing, and no grinding. I am not chasing events or challenges, only playing when I feel like it and there’s somebody online to team with. I’m getting nowhere fast as far as upgrading anything, but at least most of the games are fun, where going solo most of them suck. Like I said in another thread, I’m not paying any more to be a guinea pig for a game that’s still in beta. Finish this sucker up, fix the crap that NEEDS fixing, and then if I like what I see I’ll gladly support it. But as for the topic, none of you guys are the ones I’m talking about - you all have reasonable strength hangars in relation to your XP’s. I’m talking about players with under 100k XP and hangars around 3000 or more, with the high-end weapons doubled up and maxed out, and one or two mechs doubled and maxed. You don’t grind your way to a hangar like that with only 80k XP. I want to know what it took to get there. I could be wrong as I just have not paid attention but I think that XP comes from challenge completions and playing CPC. My understanding is that tournaments did not give XP but instead gave winnings in the form of Chests, credits, and A-Coins. Someone could just play the tournaments and avoid CPC almost entirely. If so, they could have a low XP but high credits and A-Coins. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Feb 23, 2021 16:44:35 GMT -5
I did. Then for some reason that still defies logic I reinstalled, but with 3 rules: no spending, no soloing, and no grinding. I am not chasing events or challenges, only playing when I feel like it and there’s somebody online to team with. I’m getting nowhere fast as far as upgrading anything, but at least most of the games are fun, where going solo most of them suck. Like I said in another thread, I’m not paying any more to be a guinea pig for a game that’s still in beta. Finish this sucker up, fix the crap that NEEDS fixing, and then if I like what I see I’ll gladly support it. But as for the topic, none of you guys are the ones I’m talking about - you all have reasonable strength hangars in relation to your XP’s. I’m talking about players with under 100k XP and hangars around 3000 or more, with the high-end weapons doubled up and maxed out, and one or two mechs doubled and maxed. You don’t grind your way to a hangar like that with only 80k XP. I want to know what it took to get there. I could be wrong as I just have not paid attention but I think that XP comes from challenge completions and playing CPC. My understanding is that tournaments did not give XP but instead gave winnings in the form of Chests, credits, and A-Coins. Someone could just play the tournaments and avoid CPC almost entirely. If so, they could have a low XP but high credits and A-Coins. Yes, but you will still get XP for completed tasks. The downside to this is you don't raise divisions and end up looking like a tanker (like I did... I ended up playing more CPC once I had a hangar I liked well enough to start coasting, and now only like Tourney when squadding lol). I prefer Solo on CPC because even if I am against a better AI team, I can still, sometimes, win on beacons. 2 Killies and a Shadow are usually enough to keep the CP lead... usually... and that makes it way more fun for me without teammates. EDIT... but I advanced pretty far down the XP path just playing Tourney... tasks can move that bar pretty far on the regular. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Feb 23, 2021 16:48:41 GMT -5
For what this game is, being that I've spent zero dollars I'm actually able to hang with even some of the big spenders. Especially if you can team with other people. When I run with you, Deadeye, old_cat, Atom, and quite a few others even if we run into full teams we can usually make it a match. Are their times I get steamrolled of course, but its still a vastly different beat down path than War Robots became over the years. For what it is the balance in this game is thought through fairly well, the match making seems to be getting better than worse and knowing my match ups and if I engage or go find someone else to pick on usually helps a lot. Look past the fact my KS has a life span on average of 10 seconds because I always seem to put it in the worst spot ever... And that’s why I’ve decided no more solo games. We had some great matches last night (thanks for the invites!), with mostly similarly-powered hangars, all in the 1800-2000 range, and those games were huge fun. For some reason, matchmaker just doesn’t like me very much when I’m alone, but things settle down to good competition when I’m with a team. As for upgrades, I’ve given up on having any kind of strategy or long term plan. I have 4 mechs now that are fun and really strong in their own ways, and at the moment I have no idea which of them I’m going to upgrade next. Or if I’ll put upgrades on hold and collect a crap-ton of resources to acquire the next level of weapons. I just don’t know - it will probably come down to whatever mood I’m in when I do finally get enough resources to do anything. Right now everything needs a LOT to get to the next level or rank, and I’m nowhere close to having enough for any of them. What's weird is that for me, my solo CP games are usually pretty tame... at least for the first 3 - 5... which is about all the time I have at any one stretch. It's only when I get some grind time and run with teammates that I get AI that are real trouble. Especially in Tourney. Exact opposite situation. |
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Post by reconnecting on Feb 25, 2021 14:42:06 GMT -5
I try to budget my MA spending to $20 or so a month. $10 at the start of the month, $10 around mid month. I only play about 5 or 6 matches a day now, unless I want to get some achievement for the resources. I often dont get the daily chest these days. Sometimes if I upgrade I will get the upgrade pack that appears after. Oh, and last month was my birthday and spent more. 😁
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Post by dukeofadvil on Feb 25, 2021 15:09:13 GMT -5
I get some credits from surveys...about 3-5 bucks every week or 2 that goes here...no out of pocket there, but i do spend about 10 bucks a month cash.
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Post by Old-Cat on Feb 26, 2021 9:55:46 GMT -5
Chest deal here and there but not another dime until they fix the A-coin payout,
I really wanted to have enough saved by the time I unlocked the rail gun, that ain’t happening under the current structure. I suspect I’ll cap all my mechs at 4.7 too ( except my Jug , moved that already) so I don’t get matched any tougher when running solo.
I have no issue supporting them provided they have a reasonable payout structure to advance mechs and weapons, at present forget it,
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 1, 2021 8:52:21 GMT -5
Well, I'm on the long lonely road to saving/earning/buying 10k A-coins in order to R5 my Zep and get the CB12. I'm at around 1300 right now, so lets see how long it takes me. I don't mind buying things in smaller lumps, but spending $70 at once is way too much for me.
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Post by Deadeye on Mar 3, 2021 10:56:25 GMT -5
Oh boy, collecting a-coins these days is a freaking chore. It's one thing to slow down the flow from the tournament, but almost all of the event a-coins have dried up too. I'm not playing the tournament these days as much as I have in the past, so the chances for big coins on the last day of the tourney are non-existent. That leaves events and those have been completely empty the last couple weeks. I'm fortunate to have my hanger singing along really well with everything I want, but others are far from that. At this point, I'm playing the tournament mostly for keys. A-coins are happening more often for me in the 10 key chests, which is kinda sad. Hopefully they turn the faucet back on a little more.
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Post by BigBear on Mar 3, 2021 11:54:33 GMT -5
Just like the A coins my gameplay has dried up,my bot and weapon targets are a long way off in terms of A coin cost,unless i buy several bundle deals.
My hanger situation is just as grim,90% of my first choice hanger is waiting for the next level upgrade,again a huge A coin outlay for each item,and again a long way off unless i buy several bundle deals,you can see the pattern forming here.
Im spending my time on other games at the moment,i will keep a keen eye on this game to see what the next stage is,they said they are monitoring the situation and could change things at any time,but they also said the A coins nerfed in the tournament payouts would be distributed elsewhere but that didnt happen so im not holding my breath.
I get the feeling that once this game was "discovered" by War Robots & MB refugees and word spread they saw a huge financial upsurge as the usual credit card warriors bought everything to be seen,the game owners made the decision why give currency away when obviously players are happy to buy it.
Most of us know how that story will end.
I remain hopeful as this game is still in beta (although it has been in beta for years and that excuse is beginning to wear thin),and will watch with optimism,great potential but being managed poorly so far.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Mar 3, 2021 14:23:57 GMT -5
Yeah, the a-coin situation has gotten pretty sad. It’s about to the point where the ONLY way to advance your gear is to spend $$$, especially once you get everything to R4 and higher. Farming sufficient a-coins now is basically an impossible task. I don’t know about anybody else, but that’s that’s about the worst way to encourage me to spend $$$ on whatever you’re peddling. This game had a lot of promise in that regard early on, but lately they’ve gone almost completely Pixo. And the damn thing is still in beta. So if anybody is listening, this evolving monetization strategy has accomplished making me play a lot less and spend nothing. Congratulations.
Oh yeah, and tournament games for the last two months absolutely SUCK. Tack on the garbage payouts, and there’s #4 on my list: No tournament games.
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Post by reconnecting on Mar 3, 2021 15:14:11 GMT -5
MA has become a minor amusement rather than an obsession for me. I play a few games early, lately to get in on *something* from the tournament especially keys. 3 keys and a bit of other resources is fine for me. This all helps me get credits. I just upgraded MR8 one level to 5. That will help get more stuff in the long run.
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 3, 2021 15:30:18 GMT -5
Well, I just put a note on their Discord in both their game discussion and suggestion channels. Lets see if anything comes of it.
Once I reach my goal of getting the CB12, I really don't have anything else to get in the game that I really want. Hell, in this current Dev Derby, I even upgraded my Lancer cause I didn't have anything else I wanted to upgrade. All my current mechs are either at R5 or R4.7. Once I get the CB12, I'll likely go and rank up the rest of my weapons to R5, and then that would be it for me until they release new content.
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