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Post by derps on Feb 2, 2021 0:16:52 GMT -5
Hawks... Pix Dev #1: "You know whats better than the Ao Jun meta, of camping, wait for skill, fly around, then fly away??" Pix Dev #2: "Nop. wut gudder?" Pix Dev #1: "Whats better? I'LL TELL YA!!! It is Au Jun meta... with CANCER!!" Pix Dev #2: "Me no get it. wat dat?" Pix Dev #1: "You know how everyone and their mom complained about this wingless chickens breathing fire, and there were games with NOTHING but those bots?" Pix Dev #2: " Ya shur, what do?" Pix Dev #1: "Well, basically lets give that damn chicken some CANCER! INCREASE weapon loadout, give it a SHIELD... one that REDUCES incoming dmg, AND REFLECTS dmg. oh oh, and give it an AUTO targeting beam weapon that does 10x any other bot skill, or bot weapon, AND make that weapon long range! OH wait, its not good nuff, give it two legendary pilots, one that IGNORES all condition effects like suppression and lockdown, OR lockdown effect to the bots beam weapon... ya? huh? YA??? HUUUHHH??? Pix Dev #2: "yus. best cancer. is scerred. will make much game cancer. please has summor... also ka-ching, suckers pay out nose! ME RICH! hahaha" ======================================== Sorry, just poking a bit of fun. I honestly hate the game for the first time in years, Au Jun meta was annoying but maneagable, but this is utter cancer. So the only way to cope? make funny make believe conversations about it, play MAYBE 1 game a week. and pick my nose until they finally "balance" this dumb bot... I deeply fear it will do poop-all since its their current money maker aside from Scorpion or the sonic shotguns... But still, a boy can hope!!! After that LONG stupid convo you just read, whats YOUR favorite in-game cancer right now, and your best creative/funny way of conveying it... |
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Post by santaclaus on Feb 2, 2021 0:56:43 GMT -5
Only cowards hide behind cover. I don't see why the mech they chose for this makes any difference.
There is only one "cancer" in this game and one only.
It's called "lockdown "
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Post by leech2 on Feb 2, 2021 2:20:24 GMT -5
My worst cancer is scorpion. It as simple as that.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Feb 2, 2021 3:18:48 GMT -5
Just as real cancer can affect different parts of the body, so it seems there are many different varieties of cancer within War Robots. Fortunately, we all seem to be immune to different strains  |
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Feb 2, 2021 5:54:12 GMT -5
I use my level 1.10 Hawk that I won in a chest late in games against Titans and maybe if a stubborn Fenrir or Falcon is annoying me.
After losing so many games in a row I decided to run it first bot out to annoy reds (like all the cool kids do) and I think for the very first time ever I made a player quit soon as the beam went on them. Was not proud of that moment and after being on the receiving end for so long I know what it feels like.
Truly is the "C" word and I can't wait for the nerf hammer to hit these...... just in time for the next big thing to come out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 7:33:34 GMT -5
See you guys in rants!
Also, hope the 50% nerf against my Fen drops V day.....
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Post by foxypotato on Feb 2, 2021 9:30:24 GMT -5
Ao Jun meta was only manageable if you ran something as equally stupid and OP as Ao Jun like Ares, Leech ect and/or used pay to play Quantum Radar to counter. Same with Hawk. Hawks aren't so bad if you run a Scoprion or Shell. Lockdown Ammo can be useful if they aren't immune to it to get them to drop in a convenient location for removal.
In some ways Hawk could have been worse as an Ao Jun 2.0. Ao Jun couldn't even be looked at and effectively tracked even just for your own positioning and awareness unless you burnt PCs. I can at least look at a Hawk and see where it is and what it is doing in the air without having to burn PC. To this day even post Ao Jun nerf it still sucks and feels like a cheap death to get roasted from behind by an Ao Jun while having a great close quarters brawl with a red with positioning, cover and counterplay and then its all ruined as you get insta roasted from behind. At least I get an indicator with Hawk before this happens. Also Ao Jun dragons breath bypasses all shields accept Ageis and Absorber. At least with Hawk you can point a physical shield at it and go on about your business and ignore it for the time being.
Ao Jun is mostly balanced now after the nerf and easier to deal with without the use of PC or adopting bots from the same area that are 「slow」 as it is. When a similar nerf hits Hawk it will be a pretty decent bot too. For now it is just the latest meta cancer. Now that Ao Jun isn't crazy OP anymore I am going to level up my Sinister Glacier Deathwing at some point as an Arthur and Shell counter.
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Post by Jeb on Feb 2, 2021 10:16:52 GMT -5
Damage redirect/reflect abilities are THE cancer. Used to be you either had to dodge, avoid, or shield/armor up against enemy fire. None of this "nanny-nanny-boo-boo why are you hitting yourself why are you hitting yourself" baby-faced nonsense.
At least the Pantheon bots require you to aim your built-in weapon at someone.
I honestly judge poorly anyone who plays Leech, Hawk, or Minos. Don't care if "you have to" to be competitive. You're making a choice.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Feb 2, 2021 10:42:18 GMT -5
I honestly judge poorly anyone who plays Leech, Hawk, or Minos. Don't care if "you have to" to be competitive. You're making a choice. Oops you just called me out for half my current hangar. My bad. In my defense I have ONE of each. I've learned the hard way for a myriad of reasons: 3 Phantoms, 2 Nightingales, 3 Leeches, 2 Fenrirs.... Its very likely I'm not doing multi-anything any more. I want to "convert" my one Hawk to a PapaMoblie version but it's too expensive. So I'll stick where I am. Now, the OP: There's been lots of cancers; the Ares train probably being my most hated, but, in upper Champions League this ridiculous proliferation of Hawks is mind-blowing. You know you're up against a real money clan when they send a full or nearly full wave of Shells your way and then back them up with wave after wave of Hawks. I won a Shell and I'm not building it for a while. I'll either wait for the limited edition to come out, or wait for it to get nerfed/buffed/whatevered and then see if I want to build it. |
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Post by hi5 on Feb 2, 2021 12:11:50 GMT -5
IMO the shift to Shell as the next cancer is already happening. I think they announced a nerf already to Hawk with the laser less effective on. Non titans. I bet flight speed, duration, and shield on during take off and flight is next on the menu.
Shell is a GD beast and seeing all max hangars replacing Hawk already.
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Post by santaclaus on Feb 2, 2021 12:30:41 GMT -5
Damage redirect/reflect abilities are THE cancer. Used to be you either had to dodge, avoid, or shield/armor up against enemy fire. None of this "nanny-nanny-boo-boo why are you hitting yourself why are you hitting yourself" baby-faced nonsense. At least the Pantheon bots require you to aim your built-in weapon at someone. I honestly judge poorly anyone who plays Leech, Hawk, or Minos. Don't care if "you have to" to be competitive. You're making a choice. I totally disagree. You still have options with redirect. Lockdown gives you no options. |
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Post by Garbage game on Feb 2, 2021 15:49:47 GMT -5
Damage redirect/reflect abilities are THE cancer. Used to be you either had to dodge, avoid, or shield/armor up against enemy fire. None of this "nanny-nanny-boo-boo why are you hitting yourself why are you hitting yourself" baby-faced nonsense. At least the Pantheon bots require you to aim your built-in weapon at someone. I honestly judge poorly anyone who plays Leech, Hawk, or Minos. Don't care if "you have to" to be competitive. You're making a choice. Pantheon bots were the beginning of the cancer. Detriments for anyone shooting at them. And extra because your 「smart person」 blue teammates can charge up their shields even more. Then they just took it to another level |
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Post by babypoppy on Feb 2, 2021 16:07:03 GMT -5
I think the Spectrain era was the worst. When maxed Shocktrains would instakill most bots and it would bounce through walls. There were no effective counters to stealth either. The Spectre was one of the fastest bots by far so chasing it was hard.
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Post by Jeb on Feb 2, 2021 16:58:29 GMT -5
Damage redirect/reflect abilities are THE cancer. Used to be you either had to dodge, avoid, or shield/armor up against enemy fire. None of this "nanny-nanny-boo-boo why are you hitting yourself why are you hitting yourself" baby-faced nonsense. At least the Pantheon bots require you to aim your built-in weapon at someone. I honestly judge poorly anyone who plays Leech, Hawk, or Minos. Don't care if "you have to" to be competitive. You're making a choice. Pantheon bots were the beginning of the cancer. Detriments for anyone shooting at them. And extra because your ãsmart personã blue teammates can charge up their shields even more. Then they just took it to another level Still, at least the Pantheon bots had to actively aim at you. Reflector shields/Leech redirect require NO EFFORT. I can literally kill myself by shooting at another bot facing away from me. That's absurd. The biggest bull「dookie」 move I ever saw in FFA was when a Leech and a Falcon were teaming up to try to get me. They couldn't manage an actual shooting fight, so they both hid in cover, the Leech hit me with its ability, and the Falcon started shooting the Leech to PASS THE DAMAGE THROUGH TO ME FROM BEHIND COVER. I still killed them both, and there was a part of me that applauded the ingenuity, but that was some nonsense there. |
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Post by Garbage game on Feb 2, 2021 17:20:06 GMT -5
Pantheon bots were the beginning of the cancer. Detriments for anyone shooting at them. And extra because your ãsmart personã blue teammates can charge up their shields even more. Then they just took it to another level Still, at least the Pantheon bots had to actively aim at you. Reflector shields/Leech redirect require NO EFFORT. I can literally kill myself by shooting at another bot facing away from me. That's absurd. The biggest bull「dookie」 move I ever saw in FFA was when a Leech and a Falcon were teaming up to try to get me. They couldn't manage an actual shooting fight, so they both hid in cover, the Leech hit me with its ability, and the Falcon started shooting the Leech to PASS THE DAMAGE THROUGH TO ME FROM BEHIND COVER. I still killed them both, and there was a part of me that applauded the ingenuity, but that was some nonsense there. Have we forgot about losing to Ares trains with damage totals of 300k because we couldn't actually shoot anyone while still dying? |
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Post by vonpaulus on Feb 2, 2021 18:38:22 GMT -5
Having lived through both eras I think the Ao Jun era was worse.
- The Ao Jun straight up deleted certain mechs from competitive play. Anything that used a physical shield for example.
- Yang Lee is more overpowered than either Hawk Legendary Pilot. The ubiquitous presence of so many Yang Lee AJs made any stealth dependent bot such as a Loki, Pursuer or Nightingale into a quick and easy kill.
- Ao Juns were flat out untargetable whilst flying, where you can shoot at Hawks provided you are willing to pay the price.
- Mid and low level Ao Juns were flat out terrifying because of the strength of the built in weapon. Only high level Hawks are really terrifying because with lower levelled main weapons the death ray isn’t so terrifying.
- There are more valid counters to Hawks. Suppression bots can nerf them while flying. Scorpions exist. Drone healing exists, which is very useful for high HP pool tanks.
- In beacon games the range and speed of Hawks often sees red Hawks getting pulled away from beacons to chase down blues, which gives blues a better chance to steal a beacon. AJs were/are much more concentrated near beacons, making beacon stealing more difficult.
In the Ao Jun era I only felt competitive if I ran my own Ao Jun. Now I’m happily rolling in the Hawk era without a Hawk and without feeling a need to run my own to be competitive. It sucks if I run into a death squad with 4+ maxed 2.12 hawks deleting my bots in one pass. However it sinply doesn’t matter what meta you are in, death squads running maxed 2.12 gear will delete your team quickly so it doesn’t really matter if they are running Hawks, ao Juns, Leeches, Specters, Ares, Haechis or whatever happens to be the current go to bot du jour is.
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Post by leech2 on Feb 2, 2021 19:27:06 GMT -5
Pantheon bots were the beginning of the cancer. Detriments for anyone shooting at them. And extra because your ãsmart personã blue teammates can charge up their shields even more. Then they just took it to another level Still, at least the Pantheon bots had to actively aim at you. Reflector shields/Leech redirect require NO EFFORT. I can literally kill myself by shooting at another bot facing away from me. That's absurd. The biggest bull「dookie」 move I ever saw in FFA was when a Leech and a Falcon were teaming up to try to get me. They couldn't manage an actual shooting fight, so they both hid in cover, the Leech hit me with its ability, and the Falcon started shooting the Leech to PASS THE DAMAGE THROUGH TO ME FROM BEHIND COVER. I still killed them both, and there was a part of me that applauded the ingenuity, but that was some nonsense there. U forget that leech has very less health? it NEEDS the ability to survive. Even at level 7, my leech barely has Just over 100k health. Compare that to my leo (that doesnt have any ability) that has 200k health at level 8. |
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Post by foxypotato on Feb 2, 2021 20:02:42 GMT -5
Still, at least the Pantheon bots had to actively aim at you. Reflector shields/Leech redirect require NO EFFORT. I can literally kill myself by shooting at another bot facing away from me. That's absurd. The biggest bull「dookie」 move I ever saw in FFA was when a Leech and a Falcon were teaming up to try to get me. They couldn't manage an actual shooting fight, so they both hid in cover, the Leech hit me with its ability, and the Falcon started shooting the Leech to PASS THE DAMAGE THROUGH TO ME FROM BEHIND COVER. I still killed them both, and there was a part of me that applauded the ingenuity, but that was some nonsense there. U forget that leech has very less health? it NEEDS the ability to survive. Even at level 7, my leech barely has Just over 100k health. Compare that to my leo (that doesnt have any ability) that has 200k health at level 8. Then the Leech shouldn't exist in the game. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 7:01:22 GMT -5
worst cancer is mentality.
players thinking them managing abilities is call skill.
like them driving bot have high resist to damage and can run in like idiot where enemy shooting to kill something and magic to safe place.
and them feel this make them so good player lol
this is cancer. but only in them brain lol
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Post by BB on Feb 3, 2021 8:01:06 GMT -5
Look at Shell....I mean really LOOK at it! It is such an incredibly stupid idea that pix just pushes on lazy and uninspired players, who of course lap it up like puppies.
Sure, rockets do reasonably well against it NOW, but that will change soon enough...guaranteed.
IMO the real cancer is Pixos uninspiring ideas that just further degrade the gameplay quality. With every new indestructible freakbot they introduce, the potential for creative and skillful maneuvering takes another step backwards. The game is not evolving, it is DEvolving, and the lemmings just keep lapping up whatever ridiculous poop they push on us...because they’ve been convinced that they HAVE TO STAY COMPETITIVE!! ya being played suckas! 😬
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Post by Jeb on Feb 3, 2021 8:25:49 GMT -5
Look at Shell....I mean really LOOK at it! It is such an incredibly stupid idea that pix just pushes on lazy and uninspired players, who of course lap it up like puppies. Sure, rockets do reasonably well against it NOW, but that will change soon enough...guaranteed. IMO the real cancer is Pixos uninspiring ideas that just further degrade the gameplay quality. With every new indestructible freakbot they introduce, the potential for creative and skillful maneuvering takes another step backwards. The game is not evolving, it is DEvolving, and the lemmings just keep lapping up whatever ridiculous poop they push on us...because they’ve been convinced that they HAVE TO STAY COMPETITIVE!! ya being played suckas! 😬 Well, this is the actual right answer, isn't it?  |
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Post by foxypotato on Feb 3, 2021 8:28:01 GMT -5
Look at Shell....I mean really LOOK at it! It is such an incredibly stupid idea that pix just pushes on lazy and uninspired players, who of course lap it up like puppies. Sure, rockets do reasonably well against it NOW, but that will change soon enough...guaranteed. IMO the real cancer is Pixos uninspiring ideas that just further degrade the gameplay quality. With every new indestructible freakbot they introduce, the potential for creative and skillful maneuvering takes another step backwards. The game is not evolving, it is DEvolving, and the lemmings just keep lapping up whatever ridiculous poop they push on us...because they’ve been convinced that they HAVE TO STAY COMPETITIVE!! ya being played suckas! 😬 Quoting you inform that I like this a 2nd and 3rd time. |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Feb 3, 2021 10:02:07 GMT -5
BB : It's quite the hamster wheel that Pix has set-up. Some folks are running like hell to keep that thing spinning and others like you are trotting along at whatever pace they choose. The YTers flog the latest toys and modules and I'm just not chasing those and still having gobs of fun. I have a Scorpion with sonics and somehow I just can't bring myself to use it. I hate the sonics. They are so demoralizing to be on the receiving end of.
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Post by santaclaus on Feb 3, 2021 11:03:35 GMT -5
BB: It's quite the hamster wheel that Pix has set-up. Some folks are running lie help to keep that thing spinning and others like you are trotting along at whatever pace they choose. The YTers flog the latest toys and modules and I'm just not chasing those and still having gobs of fun. I have a Scorpion with sonics and somehow I just can't bring myself to use it. I hate the sonics. They are so demoralizing to be on the receiving end of. I'm going to keep repeating myself like a homeless doomsday shouter. Lockdown is the ONLY cancer. Not a single person yet has been able to refute my post on it. Literally every other ability and module, mech, Titan, drone, pilot gives you the freedom of choice. Lockdown is the only mechanic in this whole game that takes that away. Full. Stop. Prove me wrong. Also, sonic weapons are for absolute HEROES. what's wrong with you? Who else would charge within 100m of an enemy? (scorpions don't count, "charge" being the operative word) |
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Post by SuperHero on Feb 3, 2021 11:06:54 GMT -5
Moved to rants
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 15:13:30 GMT -5
Look at Shell....I mean really LOOK at it! It is such an incredibly stupid idea that pix just pushes on lazy and uninspired players, who of course lap it up like puppies. Sure, rockets do reasonably well against it NOW, but that will change soon enough...guaranteed. IMO the real cancer is Pixos uninspiring ideas that just further degrade the gameplay quality. With every new indestructible freakbot they introduce, the potential for creative and skillful maneuvering takes another step backwards. The game is not evolving, it is DEvolving, and the lemmings just keep lapping up whatever ridiculous poop they push on us...because they’ve been convinced that they HAVE TO STAY COMPETITIVE!! ya being played suckas! 😬 Quoting you inform that I like this a 2nd and 3rd time. writing this to say four and five |
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Post by Jeb on Feb 3, 2021 15:16:41 GMT -5
BB : It's quite the hamster wheel that Pix has set-up. Some folks are running lie help to keep that thing spinning and others like you are trotting along at whatever pace they choose. The YTers flog the latest toys and modules and I'm just not chasing those and still having gobs of fun. I have a Scorpion with sonics and somehow I just can't bring myself to use it. I hate the sonics. They are so demoralizing to be on the receiving end of. I'm going to keep repeating myself like a homeless doomsday shouter. Lockdown is the ONLY cancer. Not a single person yet has been able to refute my post on it. Literally every other ability and module, mech, Titan, drone, pilot gives you the freedom of choice. Lockdown is the only mechanic in this whole game that takes that away. Full. Stop. Prove me wrong. Also, sonic weapons are for absolute HEROES. what's wrong with you? Who else would charge within 100m of an enemy? (scorpions don't count, "charge" being the operative word) Nope, you're wrong on this. Anticontrol module, control resistance drone chips, and phase shift all work against lockdown. I'm not saying LD is cool but when you're locked, you can still shoot back and inflict damage against other bots, including the one who locked you down. Reflector shields are worse because you're getting punished for having the temerity to shoot at the Hawk, Minos, or Leech (if it's Leeched onto you). |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 15:21:56 GMT -5
BB : It's quite the hamster wheel that Pix has set-up. Some folks are running lie help to keep that thing spinning and others like you are trotting along at whatever pace they choose. The YTers flog the latest toys and modules and I'm just not chasing those and still having gobs of fun. I have a Scorpion with sonics and somehow I just can't bring myself to use it. I hate the sonics. They are so demoralizing to be on the receiving end of. I'm going to keep repeating myself like a homeless doomsday shouter. Lockdown is the ONLY cancer. Not a single person yet has been able to refute my post on it. Literally every other ability and module, mech, Titan, drone, pilot gives you the freedom of choice. Lockdown is the only mechanic in this whole game that takes that away. Full. Stop. Prove me wrong. Also, sonic weapons are for absolute HEROES. what's wrong with you? Who else would charge within 100m of an enemy? (scorpions don't count, "charge" being the operative word) Agree only if charge mean no flashy immune to damage charge. Agree only of charge mean no have super resist to damage knowing you got magic to safety button ready. No magic for charge in to fight. No magic for get back to safe How many people read that and taste the bitter lol is no me decide the flavor of true  |
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Feb 3, 2021 15:41:13 GMT -5
The game is not evolving, it is DEvolving, and the lemmings just keep lapping up whatever ridiculous poop they push on us...because theyâve been convinced that they HAVE TO STAY COMPETITIVE!!  ya being played suckas! ð¬ I agree with the sentiment but I would love a shell. Not to be competitive, just to survive longer in battle (could be the same thing?) It's tiresome on my thumbs having to walk my 「bum-bum」 to battle from home spawn every few seconds and this bot let's you fight for longer without having to spend pcs. |
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Post by santaclaus on Feb 3, 2021 19:50:05 GMT -5
I'm going to keep repeating myself like a homeless doomsday shouter. Lockdown is the ONLY cancer. Not a single person yet has been able to refute my post on it. Literally every other ability and module, mech, Titan, drone, pilot gives you the freedom of choice. Lockdown is the only mechanic in this whole game that takes that away. Full. Stop. Prove me wrong. Also, sonic weapons are for absolute HEROES. what's wrong with you? Who else would charge within 100m of an enemy? (scorpions don't count, "charge" being the operative word) Nope, you're wrong on this. Anticontrol module, control resistance drone chips, and phase shift all work against lockdown. I'm not saying LD is cool but when you're locked, you can still shoot back and inflict damage against other bots, including the one who locked you down. Reflector shields are worse because you're getting punished for having the temerity to shoot at the Hawk, Minos, or Leech (if it's Leeched onto you). I meant actually locked down. Anticontrol isn't locked down. I'm talking about when you are experiencing lockdown. If you have AC, you are not locked down. |
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