Lazerhose nerfed into the ground on TS

OP... Not trying to start anything or sound like an 「bum-bum」 here... truly, but others have stated, here on this forum, that it was coming for weeks now, and it fits with their release - buff - nerf cycle, to a tee. Are you at all surprised by this or just decided that this was the line that you choose to stand on for quitting?

I wouldn't have brought it up except you state that you would be "done" if it goes through... so was just curious as to what made this your moment of "F U PIX!"

I dont think the laserhose nerf is as bad as the shredder nerf. The reload time now being five seconds with a damage and accumulation nerf makes it absolutely useless. They should at least keep the reload time the same so it doesnt become fully dead.

Why would you be done? Did you hurry up and spend building a whole bunch of them?

Never level more than one bots worth of weapons unless you have money to burn especially if its new and OP.

Stay diversified my friend nothing last long here.

I agree with OP and may move on as well if they nerf them as such.

I don’t agree with the arguments that it was coming, you should have seen it and so on. The thing is that the nucleon family was released in April (or thereabouts), buffed in June bc they weren’t selling. The buff was the bait and the nerf will be the switch. All this after 6 months of them being useful is unprecedented. Further, it gets nerfed a month or two after WS release. Weapons used to have a much longer life cycle. Also, because of nerfing them after WS release, there isnt much prospect of having any competitive gear without spending RM and all one is left with is ineffective nerfed to the ground items. Not slightly nerfed but trashed. This is a new business model now and it will get more and more savage as the player base decreases. Whales will have to pay more frequently. Tricks like faster and cheaper upgrades won’t work to compensate because it is of little benefit to upgrade trashed gear. If this goes ahead, watch another exodus.

I think what they are doing is not releasing the new OP gear into the worskhop to about the time of its first nerf. This effectively means that the majority of players would need to pay RM for leasing the OP gear. They also seem to be eliminating any semmi good gear thats in the workshop by nerfing them to death without mercy (eg, shredders). The road map also shows increased development/release of new gear. The net effect is 
- new content will only be attainable by using RM (with exception of luck in the SD)
- Whales will have to pay more frequently for new gear which also means they will have to pay more for gold and silver to have them updated (faster releases). 
- F2P and minnows will cop it bad. they will be playing with and updating outdated gear as thats the only thing they will have reliable access to.
- game balance will be considerably reduced further. Pic will not readjust the MM-er as the only way to prove the value of investment for spenders is by matching them with players who mostly have outdated gear.

They havent wisened up IMO. This is a calculated action out of necessity to maintain old revenue levels with a smaller user base. With a larger user base they could afford to "lose" potential income by releasing new OP gear earlier to all the players and thereby keeping F2Ps and minnows happier.  Maintaining revenue levels is more important atm than maintaining a larger user base.

I reckon a lot of F2Ps and minnows will not be happy with the situation as it will be clearly visible that they are significantly disadvantaged.  It will be pointless to grind. grinding for current gear is not the same as grinding for outdated gear. This in turn will cause some to leave the game and some to reduce their levels of activity (thats what i will be doing after the shredder quaker nerf for sure if not taking a break). The whale band in Champions League will grow more and more defined over time.  Shaky fundamentals which Pix wont have the will power to fix. A downward trajectory.

I get it, I just expect it from Pix. That is why I don't jump on the bandwagon spending a bunch of money and run what I like. If I get some new OP item when its new I will use it if I get it late I may skip leveling. 

I have always looked for the bots and weapons that are more middle of the road to invest in so the odds of a nerf are less. 

Again I do get your frustration they have ruined a great game and it is pay to win or be on top as 1st loser if not in a squad.

Myself I play until its not fun which somedays is one or two games. Somedays I just don't play at all.

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Just to throw a counter point out... there is currently zero weapon diversity out there currently. There are EMGs and Sonic weapons. There is a scattering of other things, but this is the vast majority of what is run. I am somewhat surprised by this nerf in only that there isn’t a true replacement for these weapons, but in that vein everyone is left in the same situation they are currently in, no? And as it’s been pointed out, it’s difficult to get new weapons (like Sonics) so while whales (I truly hate this term) are in an even more advantageous position this doesn’t change the dynamics one bit.

One reason I don’t have a sonic outfit for my Nightingale is that by the time I get i the weapons close to maxed they’ll probably be nerfed.. Buffs/nerfs don’t bother me when they are reasonable, but gutting a bot or weapon into a shadow of its former self smells a little baity-switchy.

I run a taser Phantom and ONE laser hose Hawk. Chasing the meta plays into the ways of a Pix. Play what makes you happy, let the meta evolve around you. When the Hawk gets nerfed i’ll find, slowly, something to replace it with.

Great question. I guess we wait until the changes hit the live server.

Cant find the vid from a youtuber (watched it on the TV previously) who actually tested the effectiveness of the weapons on the test server and the live server. The differences were staggering. To give you an example, he had one bot equipped with 3 atomisers (test server) and another (on a live server) with two and the bot with 2 atomisers killed the the red faster than the one with three. Quakers and nucleons were enormously different in terms of performance as well. The effect of the nerf when considering time to kill the red was more than 33%. Probably in the order 40-45%. Probably overheating needs to be taken into consideration and that the firing rate percentage increase is not not directly proportional to damage caused.  Huge nerfs. So big that i dont think Pix will do this. I would not be surprised if they tone it back to something like1.2 firing rate increase.  1.5 is OTT. He also mentioned why the nerfs, sighting incomming new weapons - if i remember correctly (cant remember properly if he was referring to the shredder nerf when talking about new weapons).

Shredders looked to be trashed as well but nothing like the energy guns. Shredders couldn't get a lockdown after one mag unload from the distance. 

The nerfs to the scorpion and Hawk didnt seem to be anywhere near as massive as for the energy guns (in comparison). I'd say this is the first round of nerfing for the bots and the next rounds will come later.

Edit: they can also sneak in a silent nerf by decreasing targeting accuracy of the energy weapons. Sort of much less reliable targeting like when the energy guns were released.

I haven't played a single game since they announced the nerf. Completely killed any interest I had in playing.