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Scorpions
Jan 2, 2021 16:37:11 GMT -5
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jan 2, 2021 16:37:11 GMT -5
I find this thread extremely fascinating... scorpion is a counter to hawk and every other hide and pounce bot out there. And more than that, the scorpion should be teaching players about battlefield awareness. I have a ton of fun in mine and find it to be a valuable tool in the arsenal I've lost count of how many "battlefield aware" scorpions I've killed that are just standing there with their face glued to a wall looking at the next red triangle to jump to. You have to be smart and tactical to play against them but they don't (most of the time). I guess I'm salty about them because I friggin want one so I can dish out my own "battlefield awareness" but I'm still sitting on 8000 comps and it still is not in the workshop
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Jan 2, 2021 18:23:55 GMT -5
I find this thread extremely fascinating... scorpion is a counter to hawk and every other hide and pounce bot out there. And more than that, the scorpion should be teaching players about battlefield awareness. I have a ton of fun in mine and find it to be a valuable tool in the arsenal I've lost count of how many "battlefield aware" scorpions I've killed that are just standing there with their face glued to a wall looking at the next red triangle to jump to. You have to be smart and tactical to play against them but they don't (most of the time). I guess I'm salty about them because I friggin want one so I can dish out my own "battlefield awareness" but I'm still sitting on 8000 comps and it still is not in the workshop If you’re killing them because they’re not aware then they’re not an issue overall, at least in my book.
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Post by santaclaus on Jan 3, 2021 1:06:19 GMT -5
All of the things i listed can100% help deal with scorpion and are a reason I’m in legend league. There is no tips or tricks or skill to deal with (or utilize) hawks. When scorpion was released, it wasn’t hugely adopted as the OP bots always are. People said it needed a buff. The ash pilot makes it worse, but it’s not necessary for the bot to be good. Sonic weapons have changed everything, very much so on scorpion. But at the end of it all, it is still no hawk that evaporates at 500m. It’s no leech that leaves you no options. It’s no Ares insta locking and wiping you out (in that meta). Vaporized at 500m, vaporized at 350/zero m... What the fudge exactly is the difference for you here? And you totally ignore my point about HOW it's a problem, for WHOM, and at WHAT level of play. In anything below champ, scorpions are the problem. Not hawks. So why are you making (your) problem, a *game* problem across the board. You're Tom Bloody Brady complaining about the NFL draft committee signing in better players from state. You're still making millions. Us people playing pick up games in the high school field with drunk neighbors don't care. We have to go to work tomorrow.
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Jan 3, 2021 7:35:50 GMT -5
All of the things i listed can100% help deal with scorpion and are a reason I’m in legend league. There is no tips or tricks or skill to deal with (or utilize) hawks. When scorpion was released, it wasn’t hugely adopted as the OP bots always are. People said it needed a buff. The ash pilot makes it worse, but it’s not necessary for the bot to be good. Sonic weapons have changed everything, very much so on scorpion. But at the end of it all, it is still no hawk that evaporates at 500m. It’s no leech that leaves you no options. It’s no Ares insta locking and wiping you out (in that meta). Vaporized at 500m, vaporized at 350/zero m... What the fudge exactly is the difference for you here? And you totally ignore my point about HOW it's a problem, for WHOM, and at WHAT level of play. In anything below champ, scorpions are the problem. Not hawks. So why are you making (your) problem, a *game* problem across the board. You're Tom Bloody Brady complaining about the NFL draft committee signing in better players from state. You're still making millions. Us people playing pick up games in the high school field with drunk neighbors don't care. We have to go to work tomorrow. What league are we talking about here, and how is a scorpion vaporizing someone like a hawk? Are there no hawks in lower leagues? And furthermore, in lower leagues players can’t focus on bots, use Quantum Radar or anything else I listed to help? And lastly, I’m not complaining about either. I’ve simply built my hangar and my skills to help me deal with both. It’s all anyone can do at any level. And this is based on flawed mm so if we’re discussing disparities in bots/weapons then that doesn’t apply either since that would be the case in any event So I’ll ask, how can something that can be countered be worse than something that can’t?
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Post by santaclaus on Jan 3, 2021 10:31:24 GMT -5
Vaporized at 500m, vaporized at 350/zero m... What the fudge exactly is the difference for you here? And you totally ignore my point about HOW it's a problem, for WHOM, and at WHAT level of play. In anything below champ, scorpions are the problem. Not hawks. So why are you making (your) problem, a *game* problem across the board. You're Tom Bloody Brady complaining about the NFL draft committee signing in better players from state. You're still making millions. Us people playing pick up games in the high school field with drunk neighbors don't care. We have to go to work tomorrow. What league are we talking about here, and how is a scorpion vaporizing someone like a hawk? Are there no hawks in lower leagues? And furthermore, in lower leagues players canât focus on bots, use Quantum Radar or anything else I listed to help? And lastly, Iâm not complaining about either. Iâve simply built my hangar and my skills to help me deal with both. Itâs all anyone can do at any level. And this is based on flawed mm so if weâre discussing disparities in bots/weapons then that doesnât apply either since that would be the case in any event So Iâll ask, how can something that can be countered be worse than something that canât? I was pretty explicit what leagues, go back and read. Under champs, but specifically gold to expert. To answer your last question...No counters to Hawk? Really? It lands. Counter. High durability. Counter. Lance level 9 MARK ONE . Counter. Gauss Rifle. Counter. Fortified bulwark. It lands. Phase shift. Cloak It lands. There's a whack ton of Hawk and Scorpion pilots in lower leagues, scorpions are infinitely worse. Seeing a hawk in flight is awesome, I get to visually track it. A fun visual to scorpion was seeing the DR pop up and wait a second to see if it disappears... But in a sea of bots with DR? Multiple scorpion? Have fun. And you want NORMAL PEOPLE to mentally track cooldowns of a mech in the middle of 「slow」 remastered particle effect circus, lag, and the 20 other things going on? Tell me more about how easy it is to be a pro NFLer. And like I keep saying every few weeks, ANYTHING at Max mk2 Max pilot, Max drone, Max everything... Will vaporize you at any range I don't even know why you use the disparity of 150 meters as an argument.
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Post by Pilot #RG# on Jan 3, 2021 11:17:09 GMT -5
Earlier I used to be oblivion about scorps whereabout. But as time passed, I am able to assess which kinds of bots around and suspect a scorp when a bot trying to push for that 350m range. Sometimes I spawn Fenrir when I see a high level scorp is around since it can handle with its durability. Apart from that,I am having a level 9 scorp which mostly die after taking two kills. I use it as my suicide squad to hunt down important enemy bots which play peekaboo. But yeah, sometimes those mk2 level scorp does demoralise opposition in lower leagues which is a flaw in matchmaking. But it applies to almost all bots, I have seen little phantom running a wreckage in lower leagues when those tankers with mk2 bots start to push again. I am more against that invisibility for a few secs... and spawning behind us lol. Why not spawn the thing to our front 😅. Then that’s how pix increase business. Why would someone pay and use a normal bot ? They even announced in their video that all bots of 2021 are going to be OP......and special ( like underground bots 👀😋, that’s what they speculated in video lol ). So we are about to see much more surprises. Sorry if my comment sound noobish lol. Just wanted to distract this heated discussion with an unrelated comment 😜🙌👍.
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Post by heavypiece on Jan 29, 2021 13:59:20 GMT -5
I have one. It’s one of those Techno Scorps, MK1-9. It has a pair of MK2-4 Tarans and a MK2-7 Magnum. It’s been in my hanger since I pulled it out of a crate, or a box...maybe a chest. It was one of those prizes that appear out of thin air. In your statement you use the word “Scorpions” and the phrase “all the time”. So going by your phraseology, ones hanger would have to be full of Scorpions and no playing the Titan. I only have one, so I don’t play it all of the time. It’s a fun bot to play, but I don’t think that it is such a good time that I would fill up a hanger with them. So glad to know that I am not “scum of the earth”. This is a pic of my Scorpion. It’s good for one, maybe two kills. If I am lucky a triple. Look what I just won: Fresh out of the box. I picked her up during the event. I was able to do a quick weapons buff as I had these in storage. l already have one in my IPad hanger. This one is now in my IPhone hanger. I was not trying to get one, but since I have it I going to use it.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jan 31, 2021 0:26:52 GMT -5
I have one. It’s one of those Techno Scorps, MK1-9. It has a pair of MK2-4 Tarans and a MK2-7 Magnum. It’s been in my hanger since I pulled it out of a crate, or a box...maybe a chest. It was one of those prizes that appear out of thin air. In your statement you use the word “Scorpions” and the phrase “all the time”. So going by your phraseology, ones hanger would have to be full of Scorpions and no playing the Titan. I only have one, so I don’t play it all of the time. It’s a fun bot to play, but I don’t think that it is such a good time that I would fill up a hanger with them. So glad to know that I am not “scum of the earth”. This is a pic of my Scorpion. It’s good for one, maybe two kills. If I am lucky a triple. Look what I just won: Fresh out of the box. I picked her up during the event. Slightly envious. I'm still sitting on 8000 comps for a normal one..... with what looks like no chance of it coming in to the workshop before the nerf hammer hits it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 10:54:59 GMT -5
This rant is a bit off target, IMO....The rant should be about Pix being Pix, not specific content.
Since I just started playing again, and am 9 months break “behind” I see Hawk as Ao Jun v2.0, same playstyle but stronger ability.....the hatred of Ao Jun back a year ago is legendary....same with Scorpion, aka Phantom V2.0, except instead of being stupid fast, they go to wherever instantly.....same playstyle.
If Pix has imagination, new content would be totally different, and very difficult to counter with older content.
Remember, shortly after it hit the live server, a little bot known as Ares? Then death clan Ares Huddles? That hatred expressed was epic, lol.
My point with Ares is the bot was so different, no one could really counter it for a long time, and when the buying dried up.....Nerf, Nerf, Nerf.
Gamers that use available content, as intended, are not cowards or a-holes....they are people playing a game with what is available, regardless of if they spend or not.
Trust me.....this new content will be nerfed, and the next new thing will be ranted about.
As for myself, Scorpions keep me on my toes, increasing my battlefield awareness significantly, so for that....Thanks, Pix!
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Post by santaclaus on Jan 31, 2021 20:10:54 GMT -5
This rant is a bit off target, IMO....The rant should be about Pix being Pix, not specific content. Since I just started playing again, and am 9 months break “behind” I see Hawk as Ao Jun v2.0, same playstyle but stronger ability.....the hatred of Ao Jun back a year ago is legendary....same with Scorpion, aka Phantom V2.0, except instead of being stupid fast, they go to wherever instantly.....same playstyle. If Pix has imagination, new content would be totally different, and very difficult to counter with older content. Remember, shortly after it hit the live server, a little bot known as Ares? Then death clan Ares Huddles? That hatred expressed was epic, lol. My point with Ares is the bot was so different, no one could really counter it for a long time, and when the buying dried up.....Nerf, Nerf, Nerf. Gamers that use available content, as intended, are not cowards or a-holes....they are people playing a game with what is available, regardless of if they spend or not. Trust me.....this new content will be nerfed, and the next new thing will be ranted about. As for myself, Scorpions keep me on my toes, increasing my battlefield awareness significantly, so for that....Thanks, Pix! Not true. Won a scorpion and 3 hawks. All sold. All trash. This isn't a "look how high and righteous I am" comment as the reason I don't use those mechs ISN'T that I morally disagree with their use. It's that scorpion is specifically tailored to every coward trait. It is designed this way. Full Stop. So yes, scorpion pilots are cowards, when using a scorpion. You say "what is available " that's disingenuous. Scorpions are for available. You have to actively be pursuing Te chance of one in chests events workshop etc... Leo is available. You can get it instantly. With zero effort. That's what available means. Not "attaonable" I agree with the rest of your post though.
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Scorpions
Jan 31, 2021 20:12:34 GMT -5
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Post by santaclaus on Jan 31, 2021 20:12:34 GMT -5
For clarity, I consider anyone who fears retaliation to be a coward. People who only show their teeth only when they think they have the advantage are baloney.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Jan 31, 2021 21:14:57 GMT -5
Look what I just won: Fresh out of the box. I picked her up during the event. Slightly envious. I'm still sitting on 8000 comps for a normal one..... with what looks like no chance of it coming in to the workshop before the nerf hammer hits it. I have 8000 comps of regular Scorp too, after I picked up 500 comps in the last event I have a parking space right next to my Techno Scorp
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jan 31, 2021 21:27:21 GMT -5
As for myself, Scorpions keep me on my toes, increasing my battlefield awareness significantly, so for that....Thanks, Pix! Doesn't matter how battlefield aware you are. It's the times when you are occupied and having great battles with the enemy, enjoying the engagement and hopefully come out victorious. Then.....Randy Orton style, chump appears behind you with stealth and suppression chips and KO's you without putting in any effort whatsoever. Yeah it is what it is and I still want one, just so I don't have to work so hard to cap a beacon only to have it taken away by effortless playstyle.
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Post by leech2 on Feb 1, 2021 2:58:05 GMT -5
Gold league, i see a scorpion in my team, I know we are gonna win
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Post by Pilot #RG# on Feb 1, 2021 5:08:29 GMT -5
Gold league, i see a scorpion in my team, I know we are gonna win There are many solid hangars down there in Gold and Diamond. Had seen several tankers who could destruct even master league players lol. 😅
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Post by Fainty Dragon on Feb 14, 2021 6:47:07 GMT -5
I hate the scorpions so much. Now that the ability got crippled a bit, people combine it with the invisibility more and the bot is even more annoying.
The damn robot is just a walking meme. *Teleports behind you* Nothing personal kid...
The limited edition shouldn't be named Techno scorpion, instead it should have worn a fedora hat and sport painting of a katana on its hull.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 10:15:02 GMT -5
Can a Scorpion teleport inside and behind a Dementer?
Wouldn’t surprise me......I’ve come to welcome the Leech suck off as long as Scorpions arent around..........
There must have been better options for Pix to counter the speed for capping beacons. This thing really blows, and I’ve had battles where 3 of um booty blast me......ridiculous.......
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Scorpions
Feb 17, 2021 15:32:41 GMT -5
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Feb 17, 2021 15:32:41 GMT -5
...... And still not in the workshop.
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Post by Covid-19 Cure on Feb 17, 2021 15:36:09 GMT -5
...... And still not in the workshop. Scorp is in the components as of Monday
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Post by Pilot #RG# on Feb 17, 2021 15:38:23 GMT -5
...... And still not in the workshop. Scorp is in the components as of Monday I checked now and it is in WS of iOS.
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Scorpions
Feb 17, 2021 16:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by Flaminius on Feb 17, 2021 16:37:14 GMT -5
Scorpion is a right PITA if you are in the wrong bot, I have zero problems dealing with them in something tanky. Especially when they oblige you by just standing there in pew pew mode with freeze rockets, or teleport behind someone who is stood right in front of you.
There can be a lot going on in BR, but we should all be able to identify the icons by now. Extra marks for commanders who can remember where the little 「illegitimate child」 is teleporting back to.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 18:45:52 GMT -5
This rant is a bit off target, IMO....The rant should be about Pix being Pix, not specific content. Since I just started playing again, and am 9 months break “behind” I see Hawk as Ao Jun v2.0, same playstyle but stronger ability.....the hatred of Ao Jun back a year ago is legendary....same with Scorpion, aka Phantom V2.0, except instead of being stupid fast, they go to wherever instantly.....same playstyle. If Pix has imagination, new content would be totally different, and very difficult to counter with older content. Remember, shortly after it hit the live server, a little bot known as Ares? Then death clan Ares Huddles? That hatred expressed was epic, lol. My point with Ares is the bot was so different, no one could really counter it for a long time, and when the buying dried up.....Nerf, Nerf, Nerf. Gamers that use available content, as intended, are not cowards or a-holes....they are people playing a game with what is available, regardless of if they spend or not. Trust me.....this new content will be nerfed, and the next new thing will be ranted about. As for myself, Scorpions keep me on my toes, increasing my battlefield awareness significantly, so for that....Thanks, Pix! Not true. Won a scorpion and 3 hawks. All sold. All trash. This isn't a "look how high and righteous I am" comment as the reason I don't use those mechs ISN'T that I morally disagree with their use. It's that scorpion is specifically tailored to every coward trait. It is designed this way. Full Stop. So yes, scorpion pilots are cowards, when using a scorpion. You say "what is available " that's disingenuous. Scorpions are for available. You have to actively be pursuing Te chance of one in chests events workshop etc... Leo is available. You can get it instantly. With zero effort. That's what available means. Not "attaonable" I agree with the rest of your post though. Now that some time has passed, I will say I agree with you. I have no interest in Scorpion...I never had Ares, Phantom, Leech, etc. because I see that playstyle as a wast of time in battle, and I just do not play like that, ever. Although I won an Ao Jun, it is my FU hangar now, just don’t care for shoot/hide type bots. Im sure Champs is full of high leveled click then flee and hide bots, which are perfect for unimaginative, weak minded folks who want rewards with no effort or thinking. But, War Robots sure ain’t Chess!
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Feb 17, 2021 19:13:44 GMT -5
Im sure Champs is full of high leveled click then flee and hide bots, which are perfect for unimaginative, weak minded folks who want rewards with no effort or thinking. But, War Robots sure ain’t Chess! Hey, I'm about to resemble that remark now that the bot is in the workshop, I'm going to finish off the 2k more comps I need to get on the Scorp train. Time to dish out some cold revenge.
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Scorpions
Feb 17, 2021 21:18:09 GMT -5
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Post by santaclaus on Feb 17, 2021 21:18:09 GMT -5
Not true. Won a scorpion and 3 hawks. All sold. All trash. This isn't a "look how high and righteous I am" comment as the reason I don't use those mechs ISN'T that I morally disagree with their use. It's that scorpion is specifically tailored to every coward trait. It is designed this way. Full Stop. So yes, scorpion pilots are cowards, when using a scorpion. You say "what is available " that's disingenuous. Scorpions are for available. You have to actively be pursuing Te chance of one in chests events workshop etc... Leo is available. You can get it instantly. With zero effort. That's what available means. Not "attaonable" I agree with the rest of your post though. Now that some time has passed, I will say I agree with you. I have no interest in Scorpion...I never had Ares, Phantom, Leech, etc. because I see that playstyle as a wast of time in battle, and I just do not play like that, ever. Although I won an Ao Jun, it is my FU hangar now, just don’t care for shoot/hide type bots. Im sure Champs is full of high leveled click then flee and hide bots, which are perfect for unimaginative, weak minded folks who want rewards with no effort or thinking. But, War Robots sure ain’t Chess! I love that last line, truly a quote to hang on to.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Feb 20, 2021 2:08:02 GMT -5
I built the last comps of my Scorpion and I'm running it in mid Champions League and getting kills at level 5. Yep, it really is a skill less bot but I don't have any high moral ground to run to so I'm going to still run it I can only imagine how much easier it was pre-nerf.
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Post by heavypiece on Feb 20, 2021 8:06:29 GMT -5
I built the last comps of my Scorpion and I'm running it in mid Champions League and getting kills at level 5. Yep, it really is a skill less bot but I don't have any high moral ground to run to so I'm going to still run it I can only imagine how much easier it was pre-nerf. Welcome to the “Battlefield Awareness” club. I am going to go stare at a wall.
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Post by Pilot #RG# on Feb 20, 2021 8:47:12 GMT -5
Tbf hawks and scorps are played more aggressively in champs and upper leagues of masters... at least in beacon rush which I play often. Rarely I see people waiting behind the wall. Maybe in FFA and Team death, but certainly not in BR. When you find players staring at wall, you can forget the match 😅 soon you will be four capped and spawn raided.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Mar 7, 2021 10:42:45 GMT -5
/walks away whistling
Nothing to respond to here, juuuuuust keep on walking.....
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Post by Fainty Dragon on Mar 14, 2021 9:46:03 GMT -5
So i had a revelation today!
I've tested it only like twice - confirmation from others is appreciated.
The scorpion doesn't teleport behind you. It teleports behind your LEGS. Meaning: if you make sure that you stand with them oriented to walk directly into behind. The little 「illegitimate child」 will teleport just right to get intimate with your weapon muzzles.
To those of you who were aware all along, I hate you for not sharing.
Edit: It's rubbish, just some lucky conditions of surrounding terrain.
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Post by heavypiece on Mar 14, 2021 9:53:57 GMT -5
Wait... What?
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