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Post by Pilot #RG# on Dec 14, 2020 8:32:11 GMT -5
Talking about nucleons, they appear dead cheap in offer section. I mean really the cheapest weapon you can afford right now is nucleon series if you are willing to pay. Now this being offered as reward and possibly used by many, are we expecting a nerf ? With its heavy upgrade price I hope it won’t take a very big hit though.... That’s around 6 USD... the price these days.
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Post by frunobulax on Dec 14, 2020 8:58:29 GMT -5
Talking about nucleons, they appear dead cheap in offer section. I mean really the cheapest weapon you can afford right now is nucleon series if you are willing to pay. Now this being offered as reward and possibly used by many, are we expecting a nerf ? With its heavy upgrade price I hope it won’t take a very big hit though.... That’s around 6 USD... the price these days. Well, it adds up. 5 bucks here, 5 bucks there, 15 for the op pass, 10 for VIP, whatever.
I have set myself a budget, and will pick within that budget what I expect to give me the most fun. Right now I've already strained my budget because I essentially built a new account with 3 bots over the last 2 months or so, picking up several bots that are fun and that I've never played (like that Phantom in the OP). If I get another offer like the 4xShredder Blitz for 5$ I'd bite (if I need the stuff), but I'm done buying weapons. Especially since better weapons would just push me up to leagues where I don't want to go.
A free Nucleon however... Let's see where I'm at with the wretched titan task tomorrow.Back to playing a 1-bot hangar, dropping a titan is everything but automatic.
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Post by Pilot #RG# on Dec 14, 2020 9:06:47 GMT -5
That ardent blitz shredder combo is something serious. I found that bashing everything coming on its way the other day. I do have a blitz from super chest but I am afraid of pilot and shredder price even if I have to build one. So living happy with my phantom for now,
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Post by teraflx on Dec 14, 2020 10:50:23 GMT -5
You'll probably naturally need a few so that's $10 or more and then a huge amount of silver to get them where they need to be just as they get nerfed.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Dec 14, 2020 11:04:25 GMT -5
You'll probably naturally need a few so that's $10 or more and then a huge amount of silver to get them where they need to be just as they get nerfed. I watch the folks with piles of the same leveled War Robots stuff and I think, "You've never seen Pix nerf anything? Dude, 5 Hawks with Nucleon/Quarkers is going to reduce you to tears in maybe a couple months." Not me, my hangar has strictly one of each bot and a variety of weapons. For me, that keeps it fun and "Waaah!"-proof.
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Post by teraflx on Dec 14, 2020 12:25:52 GMT -5
You'll probably naturally need a few so that's $10 or more and then a huge amount of silver to get them where they need to be just as they get nerfed. I watch the folks with piles of the same leveled War Robots stuff and I think, "You've never seen Pix nerf anything? Dude, 5 Hawks with Nucleon/Quarkers is going to reduce you to tears in maybe a couple months." Not me, my hangar has strictly one of each bot and a variety of weapons. For me, that keeps it fun and "Waaah!"-proof. I am the exact same. I only do 1 of each bot and my weapons are the same with only 1 loadout of a certain type of weapon. I've been smacked too hard in the past with nerfs like the Avenger, Storms and Gusts because I was running quite a few of each of those at the time of the nerf.
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Post by Pilot #RG# on Dec 14, 2020 12:32:31 GMT -5
I watch the folks with piles of the same leveled War Robots stuff and I think, "You've never seen Pix nerf anything? Dude, 5 Hawks with Nucleon/Quarkers is going to reduce you to tears in maybe a couple months." Not me, my hangar has strictly one of each bot and a variety of weapons. For me, that keeps it fun and "Waaah!"-proof. I am the exact same. I only do 1 of each bot and my weapons are the same with only 1 loadout of a certain type of weapon. I've been smacked too hard in the past with nerfs like the Avenger, Storms and Gusts because I was running quite a few of each of those at the time of the nerf. I preferred to do one type each bot but I am using nucleon series for two bots ( fingers crossed for the nerf lol ) Ravana and Hawk since unlimited Ammo gave me more freedom. ( also took a gamble as they are among costliest now to upgrade and probably won’t be nerfed worse than other major weapons ). others I am using cryo, flame and fifth is a combination of left overs.
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Post by frunobulax on Dec 14, 2020 17:57:46 GMT -5
You'll probably naturally need a few so that's $10 or more and then a huge amount of silver to get them where they need to be just as they get nerfed. I watch the folks with piles of the same leveled War Robots stuff and I think, "You've never seen Pix nerf anything? Dude, 5 Hawks with Nucleon/Quarkers is going to reduce you to tears in maybe a couple months." Well, these guys get their rocks off by beating random Master players. I guess they'll either have moved on to a different game in 2 months, or they don't care.
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Post by Poopface on Dec 14, 2020 19:15:50 GMT -5
I watch the folks with piles of the same leveled War Robots stuff and I think, "You've never seen Pix nerf anything? Dude, 5 Hawks with Nucleon/Quarkers is going to reduce you to tears in maybe a couple months." Well, these guys get their rocks off by beating random Master players. I guess they'll either have moved on to a different game in 2 months, or they don't care. I’ll give another perspective. I was in another clan a few years ago where there was a guy who supposedly worked in Las Vegas doing something that earned him quite an enviable income. He worked hard but didn’t have a whole lot of free time due to frequently being on call. He said once that it’s a lot easier for him to just spend cash to level things up and play at max level. He didn’t want to just grind his way up just to suffer and not enjoy the game time he had available. It’s not the fault of those types of folks if Pix keeps matching them against Masters and less. Assuming there’s no malice in their heart and aren’t tanking to club seals, they aren’t doing anything wrong.
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Dec 14, 2020 19:50:16 GMT -5
Until they announce an alternative to these weapons, I don’t see any change happening. In fact, I’d argue this is perhaps a test as they left these 2 weapons out of the workshop for an extended period, so now that low price could perhaps be enough to entice folks that don’t spend to pony up. Plus if you are a spender and need something then there you go. Then on top of it, a pilot is introduced that makes these weapons more powerful and offers nerf protection... probably just me descending into madness, but I guess time will tell
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Post by Jeb on Dec 14, 2020 20:06:31 GMT -5
Honestly, if I hadn't splashed out some $1, $2, & $3 gold and key purchases this month, I probably would have gotten a Nuc/Quacker set for my Hades today. That's a sweet deal.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2020 7:24:15 GMT -5
Well, these guys get their rocks off by beating random Master players. I guess they'll either have moved on to a different game in 2 months, or they don't care. I’ll give another perspective. I was in another clan a few years ago where there was a guy who supposedly worked in Las Vegas doing something that earned him quite an enviable income. He worked hard but didn’t have a whole lot of free time due to frequently being on call. He said once that it’s a lot easier for him to just spend cash to level things up and play at max level. He didn’t want to just grind his way up just to suffer and not enjoy the game time he had available. It’s not the fault of those types of folks if Pix keeps matching them against Masters and less. Assuming there’s no malice in their heart and aren’t tanking to club seals, they aren’t doing anything wrong. Agreed, but your example is more the exception than the rule. It doesnt make it feel better when you start a match and have reds just ignoring everything and mauling you and your team before you are even able to leave the spawn area. All the nice things that are said in favor of big spenders never seems to address that.
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Post by Daniela1 on Dec 16, 2020 10:48:03 GMT -5
Planning to build a Hades to put my Biomechanoid Nucleon on it sometime in the future, let's see if it gets nerfed.
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Post by Poopface on Dec 16, 2020 11:33:38 GMT -5
I’ll give another perspective. I was in another clan a few years ago where there was a guy who supposedly worked in Las Vegas doing something that earned him quite an enviable income. He worked hard but didn’t have a whole lot of free time due to frequently being on call. He said once that it’s a lot easier for him to just spend cash to level things up and play at max level. He didn’t want to just grind his way up just to suffer and not enjoy the game time he had available. It’s not the fault of those types of folks if Pix keeps matching them against Masters and less. Assuming there’s no malice in their heart and aren’t tanking to club seals, they aren’t doing anything wrong. Agreed, but your example is more the exception than the rule. It doesnt make it feel better when you start a match and have reds just ignoring everything and mauling you and your team before you are even able to leave the spawn area. All the nice things that are said in favor of big spenders never seems to address that. I think we're talking about separate things. The ability to blamelessly spend considerable sums of money for entertainment is different than seal clubbing or spawn raiding. If the MM weren't the way it is, spawn raiding with a max hanger would be harder to do because the games would be more evenly matched.
The issues with the game are myriad and nuanced.
Planning to build a Hades to put my Biomechanoid Nucleon on it sometime in the future, let's see if it gets nerfed. Oh, it absolutely will be. The questions are: a) when, b) how badly, c) how diversified are your hanger options to minimize the impact when it happens.
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Post by shivaswrath on Dec 16, 2020 12:36:34 GMT -5
I never upgraded Nucleons....I did two Atomizers and 4 Quarkers.
Then blitz was nerfed 😂.
I'll wait to upgrade my 4 Nucleons after the nerf....if it's simply a cool down nerf I may get Sam to offset it. I have better heavies (2 Vipers, Embers, Glaciers, Devastators) that I can enjoy in the mean time.
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Post by santaclaus on Dec 16, 2020 13:13:22 GMT -5
I got 2 nucleons on that 599 sale just to jump on the bandwagon before nerftime.
...I gotta say I'm completely underwhelmed. I got them both to level 6 and theoretically should be doing almost triple the damage as my 2 level 6 vipers... But they're not
What's the math from the nerdy Commanders?
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Post by Jeb on Dec 16, 2020 13:23:32 GMT -5
Go to L9/L10, then see. Nothing is overwhelming at L6.
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Post by Poopface on Dec 16, 2020 15:44:54 GMT -5
Go to L9/L10, then see. Nothing is overwhelming at L6. I will second that statement. I have one that is at 1/11 and by itself I can see it making a noticeable dent in robots that are leveled up.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 16, 2020 15:54:45 GMT -5
Nerf Schmerf, this is my new project...
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 16, 2020 16:54:46 GMT -5
I never upgraded Nucleons....I did two Atomizers and 4 Quarkers. Then blitz was nerfed 😂. I'll wait to upgrade my 4 Nucleons after the nerf....if it's simply a cool down nerf I may get Sam to offset it. I have better heavies (2 Vipers, Embers, Glaciers, Devastators) that I can enjoy in the mean time. Blitz Clive or no Clive, is still pretty potent, esp w at least 2 Shredders and a decent lil buddy Drone. A YTer did a comp of Viper v Nuc. Nucs won at all distances. I do love my Viper Falcon, but building a Nuc Falcon as my current project. But good job on diversity. Keeps the game fun and mitigates nerf risk.
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Post by Jeb on Dec 16, 2020 17:27:00 GMT -5
Quick question - because I don't understand War Robots damage computation any more...
Which outputs more damage, a L9 Atomizer or a 2.12 Punisher-T?
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Post by lepetomane on Dec 16, 2020 18:05:01 GMT -5
Quick question - because I don't understand War Robots damage computation any more... Which outputs more damage, a L9 Atomizer or a 2.12 Punisher-T? I ran Fenrir l9 lasers and Fenrir 2.12 punishers in my main: the latter does more dmg at close range, the lasers do more dmg at long range as they are more accurate then. also lasers have no reload at close range so have continuous dmg output, which is nice as well of course. I took out the pun Fenrir for weyland recently as the other is more versatile.
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Post by alster on Dec 16, 2020 20:21:50 GMT -5
I’ll give another perspective. I was in another clan a few years ago where there was a guy who supposedly worked in Las Vegas doing something that earned him quite an enviable income. He worked hard but didn’t have a whole lot of free time due to frequently being on call. He said once that it’s a lot easier for him to just spend cash to level things up and play at max level. He didn’t want to just grind his way up just to suffer and not enjoy the game time he had available. It’s not the fault of those types of folks if Pix keeps matching them against Masters and less. Assuming there’s no malice in their heart and aren’t tanking to club seals, they aren’t doing anything wrong. Agreed, but your example is more the exception than the rule. It doesnt make it feel better when you start a match and have reds just ignoring everything and mauling you and your team before you are even able to leave the spawn area. All the nice things that are said in favor of big spenders never seems to address that. Everything in the game is for a $$$ reason. There could be spawn protection, but big spenders or clans need to end the game quickly. Be thankful they continue to support the game much more than we are willing to.
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Post by milty72 on Dec 17, 2020 4:42:27 GMT -5
Nerf Schmerf, this is my new project... I would be more inclined to have the nuke in the middle and avalanches on the fangs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 6:13:01 GMT -5
Quick question - because I don't understand War Robots damage computation any more... Which outputs more damage, a L9 Atomizer or a 2.12 Punisher-T? The 1.9 atomizer does more damage. I still use a pair of 2.12 puns from the days when they were paired with avengers on my Natasha. Replaced the avengers for nucleons. At 1.9 the nukes hit much harder and kill 5 times faster than 2.8 avengers- (even w Sharp and speedshooter skill) The energy machine guns have no bullet spread until it overheats. So @ 500m, you are getting 100% damage and landing 100% of your shots on target. They arent too bad with physical shields either, since they have high DPS. Thats the main difference. How much of the damage you put out that actually connects to the target. But up close, the overheating is irrelevant. You can fire away all you like at point blank range and that is also another advantage for the e-machine guns. Atomizers are Med weaps while puns are lights, but if you are going with one or the other- Id pick the e-machine guns.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 17, 2020 8:23:14 GMT -5
Nerf Schmerf, this is my new project... —-I would be more inclined to have the nuke in the middle and avalanches on the fangs. I have a couple of Avalanches that I might get around to leveling up one day for my LR trolling hanger. I really enjoyed TT Falcon before the Trident Nerf. But I want to play this TN version before the Great Nucleon Nerf of 2021.
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Post by Jeb on Dec 17, 2020 9:16:27 GMT -5
Quick question - because I don't understand War Robots damage computation any more... Which outputs more damage, a L9 Atomizer or a 2.12 Punisher-T? The 1.9 atomizer does more damage. I still use a pair of 2.12 puns from the days when they were paired with avengers on my Natasha. Replaced the avengers for nucleons. Atomizers are Med weaps while puns are lights, but if you are going with one or the other- Id pick the e-machine guns. Yeah, but I am talking about the medium Punisher-Ts. Not the light single Punishers. Still good points.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 15:23:13 GMT -5
The 1.9 atomizer does more damage. I still use a pair of 2.12 puns from the days when they were paired with avengers on my Natasha. Replaced the avengers for nucleons. Atomizers are Med weaps while puns are lights, but if you are going with one or the other- Id pick the e-machine guns. Yeah, but I am talking about the medium Punisher-Ts. Not the light single Punishers. Still good points. Ahh. then in that case, Im not sure- comparing how much power gets on target 'per minute', which is better between those two.. but it would be interesting to know which is better in battle
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Post by Jeb on Dec 17, 2020 16:28:14 GMT -5
Yeah, but I am talking about the medium Punisher-Ts. Not the light single Punishers. Still good points. Ahh. then in that case, Im not sure- comparing how much power gets on target 'per minute', which is better between those two.. but it would be interesting to know which is better in battle Yeah...well, I'm working on leveling up an Atomizer to take the place of one of my two maxed Pun-Ts on my Cerberus. Don't know if it'll be immediately obvious but I can do some apples-to-apples testing with my account and my son's account in custom battles (good control of variables).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 14:48:32 GMT -5
Ahh. then in that case, Im not sure- comparing how much power gets on target 'per minute', which is better between those two.. but it would be interesting to know which is better in battle Yeah...well, I'm working on leveling up an Atomizer to take the place of one of my two maxed Pun-Ts on my Cerberus. Don't know if it'll be immediately obvious but I can do some apples-to-apples testing with my account and my son's account in custom battles (good control of variables). I would be VERRRY interested in what your take is when you're done tinkering. Hope you post about it?
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