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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 21:04:17 GMT -5
Looks like Pix have ‘accidentally’ introduced a bug that sees every second Ao Jun get no stealth at all. I’m sure being full of intellectual giants with high levels of integrity and ninja programming skills they will abide by their word and fix this ‘bug’ almost immediately so as not to cause the game to become imbalanced.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Oct 17, 2020 0:12:53 GMT -5
I am not seeing this. They did remove stealth during take off and landing, but it still has stealth once it hit its flight plateau.
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Post by linearblade on Oct 17, 2020 1:39:00 GMT -5
I am not seeing this. They did remove stealth during take off and landing, but it still has stealth once it hit its flight plateau. Agreed. The vomit comet is still OP as ever, and I see no shortage of them in game, even amongst high league play
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Post by T34 on Oct 17, 2020 1:40:40 GMT -5
Yep, definitely is a real issue. Of course it is accidental. Accidental bc there is a roulette wheel spun every time it takes to the air and if the wrong number comes up no stealth. So it is accidental
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Post by T34 on Oct 17, 2020 1:54:58 GMT -5
I am not seeing this. They did remove stealth during take off and landing, but it still has stealth once it hit its flight plateau. Agreed. The vomit comet is still OP as ever, and I see no shortage of them in game, even amongst high league play It is no longer OP. It is gone. Just a matter of time before people have other better bots to swap em out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 2:08:08 GMT -5
I am not seeing this. They did remove stealth during take off and landing, but it still has stealth once it hit its flight plateau. Agreed. The vomit comet is still OP as ever, and I see no shortage of them in game, even amongst high league play I suspect they’re still on heavy rotation because the logical replacement is only available to those prepared to spend quite a bit on coins. Minnows like me simply can’t or won’t pay to replace them, much as we would like to. Once Pix make Hawk more available, Jun will go.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 2:11:46 GMT -5
I am not seeing this. They did remove stealth during take off and landing, but it still has stealth once it hit its flight plateau. Not always. I’ve seen several today that get to the top of their flight and fly around toasting things but there’s no stealth.
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Post by alexmcph on Oct 17, 2020 5:13:27 GMT -5
Lately I have seen their flight stealth be a bit buggy, flicker on and off mid flight when I wasnt running Quantum Radar. I havent seen one without stealth at all. The endless flame and no flame breath glitches still happen too. Ao guang gets endless dragon fangs that go way past 500m. They were happening in the remastered beta aswell, surprise surprise.
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Post by The VVatcher on Oct 17, 2020 5:44:22 GMT -5
I’ve seen it quite a bit. I had to double take every time and squint my eyes because I didn’t know if it was a Hawk without a visible circle, or a Guang. I didn’t want to shoot it if it was a Hawk.
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Oct 17, 2020 6:11:01 GMT -5
Agreed. The vomit comet is still OP as ever, and I see no shortage of them in game, even amongst high league play I suspect they’re still on heavy rotation because the logical replacement is only available to those prepared to spend quite a bit on coins. Minnows like me simply can’t or won’t pay to replace them, much as we would like to. Once Pix make Hawk more available, Jun will go. Haven’t seen any without stealth once in full flight (not saying it can’t or hasn’t happened), make sure to report it to in game help if this is the case. why is the only replacement the hawk tho? There are several really good bots to run. I do not run a Jun or Hawk and do just fine...
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Post by Poopface on Oct 17, 2020 7:05:12 GMT -5
I am not seeing this. They did remove stealth during take off and landing, but it still has stealth once it hit its flight plateau. Agreed.
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Post by Grrrega on Oct 17, 2020 7:48:57 GMT -5
Mine is in stealth when it goes to the top... But I can only hardly get it to spew fire for a second or two. Don't know why (I am in range, locked to a player and aiming spot on - the redeemer hits but there's no fire at all)
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Post by hi5 on Oct 17, 2020 8:07:23 GMT -5
I suspect they’re still on heavy rotation because the logical replacement is only available to those prepared to spend quite a bit on coins. Minnows like me simply can’t or won’t pay to replace them, much as we would like to. Once Pix make Hawk more available, Jun will go. Haven’t seen any without stealth once in full flight (not saying it can’t or hasn’t happened), make sure to report it to in game help if this is the case. why is the only replacement the hawk tho? There are several really good bots to run. I do not run a Jun or Hawk and do just fine... Because you can slap the two already leveled heavy weapons on a Hawk, throw a couple random lights and serve roughly the same function with a Hawk. A flying, mostly untouchable, heavy hitter is key role in the age of titans and it can be painful for many to not only bench a bot but also the weapons you leveled for it. Reuse, recycle, reduce!
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Oct 17, 2020 8:42:33 GMT -5
Haven’t seen any without stealth once in full flight (not saying it can’t or hasn’t happened), make sure to report it to in game help if this is the case. why is the only replacement the hawk tho? There are several really good bots to run. I do not run a Jun or Hawk and do just fine... Because you can slap the two already leveled heavy weapons on a Hawk, throw a couple random lights and serve roughly the same function with a Hawk. A flying, mostly untouchable, heavy hitter is key role in the age of titans and it can be painful for many to not only bench a bot but also the weapons you leveled for it. Reuse, recycle, reduce! I misread the only, putting it in front of everything rather than just only prepared to spend. I understand the logistics. But throw the heavy on a fenrir, bulwark, lance or Cerberus... my only point is hawk isn’t necessary for success
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Post by foxypotato on Oct 17, 2020 11:53:13 GMT -5
Because you can slap the two already leveled heavy weapons on a Hawk, throw a couple random lights and serve roughly the same function with a Hawk. A flying, mostly untouchable, heavy hitter is key role in the age of titans and it can be painful for many to not only bench a bot but also the weapons you leveled for it. Reuse, recycle, reduce! I misread the only, putting it in front of everything rather than just only prepared to spend. I understand the logistics. But throw the heavy on a fenrir, bulwark, lance or Cerberus... my only point is hawk isnât necessary for success This is great advice. Ao Jun users would benefit from putting their weapons on Bulwarks, Natashas, Carnage, Inquisitors, Leos, Lancelots, Fenrir and regular Falcons. They will find out real quick how "weak" the red Ao Jun are. They won't. The Ao Jun will always be much more powwrful than those bots even after pix is finished nerfing it. The next bit they will migrate to will be the Hawk and they'll 「female dog」 when that gets nerfed too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 15:52:30 GMT -5
Oh it’s not just meta bots Foxy - had a match today against a Mercury with no stealth (they’re usually stealthed when jumping, right?) jumping up and down, no stealth, blown to bits mid-jump by my (ironically) unstealthed non-Quantum Radar Ao Jun.
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Post by BadAsh on Oct 18, 2020 11:17:39 GMT -5
Annoyingly, my opponent Aos still seem to have a few seconds of stealth. I think they should be nerfed again to get rid of all the stealth.
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Post by alphaomega001 on Oct 18, 2020 12:39:49 GMT -5
I shelved Jun right now .The flight time is awful...By the time it gets off the ground its already coming back down. They ruined Jun. .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2020 15:10:15 GMT -5
I shelved Jun right now .The flight time is awful...By the time it gets off the ground its already coming back down. They ruined Jun. . Absolutely agree - the latest nerf is absolutely unnecessary and doesn’t achieve anything other than annoy a large proportion of players. Sure, the haters (who are really a small but noisy minority) think it’s great, but who cares what they think other than themselves? Most players used the Jun because it was accessible and relatively cheap (only two weapons to level), allowed them to compete with the big spenders on a more level playing field (ironically another thing the Ao Jun haters often love to whinge about), and was versatile. I don’t by the argument that it was a skill-less bot; anyone who’s actually used one for any length of time knows there’s far more to it than just leaping up and frying everything in range; poor players got smashed just as fast or faster using an Ao Jun as anything else) and that’s why it was so popular and persists despite several heavy nerfs (far more than the three official ones). Most of all, it was FUN to use. So now we have the Hawk. It generally isn’t available unless you buy lots of tokens. Four weapons to level (of course it’s optimised for the newer 500 meter weapons, not what most players might salvage from their Ao Jun), and unlike the Ao Jun it’s upset the balance of the dame in a fundamental way; it rewards doing damage, not getting beacons. I’ve lost count of the number of beacon games where the #1 or #2 on both the winning and losing team has ZERO beacons. That never happened with the Ao Jun, in fact a good proportion of players used them to get beacons. So really the Hawk isn’t a ready substitute for the Ao Jun; it has a different focus and is only available to those willing to spend plenty. So why nerf the Ao Jun? It doesn’t help Hawk sales. All it does is increase the disparity between spenders and F2P, and worst of all comes across as just vindictive at a time when Pix have already set new standards in how to offend a huge swathes of players and drive them away from the game. It’s a PR disaster.
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Post by alphaomega001 on Oct 18, 2020 16:37:29 GMT -5
I shelved Jun right now .The flight time is awful...By the time it gets off the ground its already coming back down. They ruined Jun. . Absolutely agree - the latest nerf is absolutely unnecessary and doesn’t achieve anything other than annoy a large proportion of players. Sure, the haters (who are really a small but noisy minority) think it’s great, but who cares what they think other than themselves? Most players used the Jun because it was accessible and relatively cheap (only two weapons to level), allowed them to compete with the big spenders on a more level playing field (ironically another thing the Ao Jun haters often love to whinge about), and was versatile. I don’t by the argument that it was a skill-less bot; anyone who’s actually used one for any length of time knows there’s far more to it than just leaping up and frying everything in range; poor players got smashed just as fast or faster using an Ao Jun as anything else) and that’s why it was so popular and persists despite several heavy nerfs (far more than the three official ones). Most of all, it was FUN to use. So now we have the Hawk. It generally isn’t available unless you buy lots of tokens. Four weapons to level (of course it’s optimised for the newer 500 meter weapons, not what most players might salvage from their Ao Jun), and unlike the Ao Jun it’s upset the balance of the dame in a fundamental way; it rewards doing damage, not getting beacons. I’ve lost count of the number of beacon games where the #1 or #2 on both the winning and losing team has ZERO beacons. That never happened with the Ao Jun, in fact a good proportion of players used them to get beacons. So really the Hawk isn’t a ready substitute for the Ao Jun; it has a different focus and is only available to those willing to spend plenty. So why nerf the Ao Jun? It doesn’t help Hawk sales. All it does is increase the disparity between spenders and F2P, and worst of all comes across as just vindictive at a time when Pix have already set new standards in how to offend a huge swathes of players and drive them away from the game. It’s a PR disaster. I had ran 2 juns just for purpose of going after titians ...So yea they had to nerf the hell out of it to try and get people to use money to get their new precious Hawk that will be nerf in a month or 2 .So many guys are just fed up w pix alot from cdxx hanging up their accts .And a very large boycott im seeing going all around on discord facebook and other social outlets.This game is a complete dumpster fire 🔥 right now.
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Post by mhphakeem on Oct 18, 2020 18:59:24 GMT -5
Yep, definitely is a real issue. Of course it is accidental. Accidental bc there is a roulette wheel spun every time it takes to the air and if the wrong number comes up no stealth. So it is accidental Hi T34, given the endless complaints regarding Ao Jun, And how ridiculously overpowered it has been over the past year or so, The developers may have gone overboard delivering what the player base has been begging for; a suitable nerf for the Ao Jun. - MHPhakeem
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Post by T34 on Oct 18, 2020 20:03:54 GMT -5
Yep, definitely is a real issue. Of course it is accidental. Accidental bc there is a roulette wheel spun every time it takes to the air and if the wrong number comes up no stealth. So it is accidental Hi T34, given the endless complaints regarding Ao Jun, And how ridiculously overpowered it has been over the past year or so, The developers may have gone overboard delivering what the player base has been begging for; a suitable nerf for the Ao Jun. - MHPhakeem So it took them over a year to deliver balancing for a "ridiculously" OP mech? Will it take a year to realise something is unbalanced with the hawk now? Just like with the haechi, Bulga, ST, Spectre, Ares, Leech..... before it? In reality, people are not complaining about he mechs. They are complaining about how poorly the developer has balanced them. But in any case, this thread is not about balancing. This is about either secret nerfs or screw ups by the developer. It was never announced that the Jun as of now will have intermittent stealth and intermittent dragon breath. Just like the loki not running any faster with road hog and adamant. That sort of stuff. Edit: Forgot to ask, have you responded to what gear you have in your hanger in a meaningful way? Hanger dump please. Also, what is your user id so we can have a sense of what sort of player you are. Thanks
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Post by The VVatcher on Oct 18, 2020 20:28:09 GMT -5
I shelved Jun right now .The flight time is awful...By the time it gets off the ground its already coming back down. They ruined Jun. . You don’t even need quantum radar against them anymore. They become lockable in the middle of it.
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Post by alphaomega001 on Oct 19, 2020 6:57:26 GMT -5
Hi T34, given the endless complaints regarding Ao Jun, And how ridiculously overpowered it has been over the past year or so, The developers may have gone overboard delivering what the player base has been begging for; a suitable nerf for the Ao Jun. - MHPhakeem So it took them over a year to deliver balancing for a "ridiculously" OP mech? Will it take a year to realise something is unbalanced with the hawk now? Just like with the haechi, Bulga, ST, Spectre, Ares, Leech..... before it? In reality, people are not complaining about he mechs. They are complaining about how poorly the developer has balanced them. But in any case, this thread is not about balancing. This is about either secret nerfs or screw ups by the developer. It was never announced that the Jun as of now will have intermittent stealth and intermittent dragon breath. Just like the loki not running any faster with road hog and adamant. That sort of stuff. Edit: Forgot to ask, have you responded to what gear you have in your hanger in a meaningful way? Hanger dump please. Also, what is your user id so we can have a sense of what sort of player you are. Thanks Lol doesn’t even take a min for them to do a revision if its loosing them money....They think we were born yesterday.
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