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Post by mhphakeem on Oct 18, 2020 21:12:49 GMT -5
Hiya, “People have caught onto their shady business practices”
respectfully, lol. Anyone over the age of 12 who doesn’t understand the “business practices” behind any good free to play game...deserves to have their money taken from them. as the saying goes, “A fool and his money are easily parted“. - MHPhakeem I wish Pixonic the best of luck with all the recent changes but keep your resume up-to-date, comrade. With that type of attitude towards its players it might not end well. Hi Hades, If Pix wants to continue extracting a revenue stream from the minnows to the whales, the onus is on them to find a way to satiate their big spenders, whilst finding an avenue to keep the game feeling competitive for their newer players and $maller contributors. It’s a difficult needle to thread, but I think they’ve done all right. Like I said, I usually spend between $15 and $30 on this game monthly. I am unclear where that puts me in the overall hierarchy of spenders, but I can’t imagine that I am at the top of the food chain. At my spending threshold, I remain entertained in the game. - MHPhakeem
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Oct 18, 2020 21:59:17 GMT -5
Oh boy, looks to me like we got a troll. There’s no point to feed it. I understand the temptation to respond but if you can’t help yourself click the name mhphakeem then the menu and block member, and select hide posts.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2020 22:11:07 GMT -5
What are we looking for? A shred of credibility. So far, you have none. Put up or shut up MHPakeem. Hello tin man, you all are so hostile. why is this? I gotta figure that I’ll give you my player ID, and then get ridiculed. okie dokies. my player ID is 221738. Ridicule away my friend! - MHPhakeem That doesn’t even look like a player ID. Come on Pix, you can’t even troll right.
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Post by mhphakeem on Oct 18, 2020 22:29:52 GMT -5
Hello tin man, you all are so hostile. why is this? I gotta figure that I’ll give you my player ID, and then get ridiculed. okie dokies. my player ID is 221738. Ridicule away my friend! - MHPhakeem That doesn’t even look like a player ID. Come on Pix, you can’t even troll right. Hi Tinman, lol. If the clan tag is part of it, it’s; [A238] ID: 221738 if that info doesn’t suffice, I don’t know what to tell you, my friend. - MHPhakeem
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Post by mhphakeem on Oct 18, 2020 22:31:37 GMT -5
Oh boy, looks to me like we got a troll. There’s no point to feed it. I understand the temptation to respond but if you can’t help yourself click the name mhphakeem then the menu and block member, and select hide posts. Hello and nice to meet you! I’m not trolling. I just disagree that this ship needs steadying; I think things are pretty much OK and improving around the edges. - MHPhakeem
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Post by mhphakeem on Oct 18, 2020 22:34:56 GMT -5
Hello tin man, you all are so hostile. why is this? I gotta figure that I’ll give you my player ID, and then get ridiculed. okie dokies. my player ID is 221738. Ridicule away my friend! - MHPhakeem That doesn’t even look like a player ID. Come on Pix, you can’t even troll right. Hi again my friend! OK, it appears I looked in the wrong place. No one has ever asked me for my player ID before, I do apologize for my error. here you go! NG6GOP sincerely, MHPhakeem
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Post by Garbage game on Oct 18, 2020 22:43:39 GMT -5
People are paying that much are getting more than “luxurious niceties.” They’re getting the equivalent of bringing a Ferrari to a bicycle race. And then collecting the gold medal at the end Hello my good friend! I get it; they’ve got better gear & they bought it and it’s upsetting to you. * muses* throughout your life, you’re going to confronted with individuals and various business entities that have an edge over you due to their financial heft. Are you going to give up and moan that life is not fair? NO! You will muster your resources in best way you know how! You’ll show the moxie and guile necessary to overcome your competition and triumph in the end! gird your loins and charge forth!!! * cheers* - MHPhakeem You completely missed my analogy. Let me make it simpler. You said you played Starcraft before. Would you still be happy to play if every now and then your opponent started off with 2000 more minerals and gas than you?
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Post by Garbage game on Oct 18, 2020 22:52:18 GMT -5
Also, to make things easier:
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Oct 18, 2020 22:57:37 GMT -5
Why are y’all still responding? It’s apparent to me they are being disingenuous so it’s like arguing with a brick wall. Just mute them and the thread will look like this...
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Post by T34 on Oct 18, 2020 23:33:16 GMT -5
Hello my good friend! I get it; they’ve got better gear & they bought it and it’s upsetting to you. * muses* throughout your life, you’re going to confronted with individuals and various business entities that have an edge over you due to their financial heft. Are you going to give up and moan that life is not fair? NO! You will muster your resources in best way you know how! You’ll show the moxie and guile necessary to overcome your competition and triumph in the end! gird your loins and charge forth!!! * cheers* - MHPhakeem You completely missed my analogy. Let me make it simpler. You said you played Starcraft before. Would you still be happy to play if every now and then your opponent started off with 2000 more minerals and gas than you? He didnt misunderstand.
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Post by mhphakeem on Oct 18, 2020 23:40:21 GMT -5
Hello my good friend! I get it; they’ve got better gear & they bought it and it’s upsetting to you. * muses* throughout your life, you’re going to confronted with individuals and various business entities that have an edge over you due to their financial heft. Are you going to give up and moan that life is not fair? NO! You will muster your resources in best way you know how! You’ll show the moxie and guile necessary to overcome your competition and triumph in the end! gird your loins and charge forth!!! * cheers* - MHPhakeem You completely missed my analogy. Let me make it simpler. You said you played Starcraft before. Would you still be happy to play if every now and then your opponent started off with 2000 more minerals and gas than you? Hello my friend, No, I don’t think I would like that. The thing is, in StarCraft you know with 100% certainty what your opponent is starting the match with - because they have the same thing every match; a CC/nexus/hatchery and workers. War robots, by its very nature, has matches where people have better gear or inferior gear. That’s the way this game is set up. If you’ve been playing longer, or you have been spending more, or if you are a superior pilot (and therefore, getting better rewards from matches)… There’s a good chance that when the game starts you have a better hanger than the other guy. That kind of thing doesn’t happen in StarCraft. No one starts the game with upgraded units...Terran doesn’t start the game with Thors, ever. in War Robots, imbalance is built into the DNA of the game, and it’s something you either overcome, or at times benefit from if your team is stacked. That’s life in this game. - MHPhakeem
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Post by mhphakeem on Oct 18, 2020 23:54:41 GMT -5
Why are y’all still responding? It’s apparent to me they are being disingenuous so it’s like arguing with a brick wall. Just mute them and the thread will look like this... Hiya Pulse, I think it’s very strange that folks find it so hard to believe that someone would enjoy this game in October 2020. Like, it is so unbelievable that someone would really like this game that they must be trolling. You are a very cynical fellow, my friend. - MHPhakeem
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Oct 19, 2020 0:07:34 GMT -5
Every now and again, a champion arises.
None know from where, or why, they choose this hill.
But they do and defend it they must.
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Post by mhphakeem on Oct 19, 2020 0:10:22 GMT -5
Every now and again, a champion arises. None know from where, or why, they choose this hill. But they do and defend it they must. Aye. Well said. - MHPhakeem
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Post by NexusBlade on Oct 19, 2020 0:12:38 GMT -5
Your feeling is wrong. heya NexusBlade, I’ve liked the changes, so I think my feeling is correct. Over the last several months, There have been numerous improvements on the Weyland. If you couple those improvements with the buff they’ve given to the ember, I feel personally fulfilled. - MHPhakeem This Isn't a matter of opinion, sorry. this is objectively the worst off the game has ever been, Whether or not you enjoy a particular piece of content isn't relevant, I personally like how my Corona Leech looks, but that doesn't matter If the game is dying, and it's dying quickly, the screenshot I posted is irrefutable evidence of the current game state being anything but steady, Pixonic has been digging their own grave for years now, and now they're getting buried, no amount of rose rinted glasses/dishonestly will change that.
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Post by mhphakeem on Oct 19, 2020 0:17:10 GMT -5
heya NexusBlade, I’ve liked the changes, so I think my feeling is correct. Over the last several months, There have been numerous improvements on the Weyland. If you couple those improvements with the buff they’ve given to the ember, I feel personally fulfilled. - MHPhakeem This Isn't a matter of opinion, sorry. this is objectively the worst off the game has ever been, Whether or not you enjoy a particular piece of content isn't relevant, I personally like how my Corona Leech looks, but that doesn't matter If the game is dying, and it's dying quickly, the screenshot I posted is irrefutable evidence of the current game state being anything but steady, Pixonic has been digging their own grave for years now, and now they're getting buried, no amount of rose rinted glasses/dishonestly will change that. Hi there again, I disagree. the darkest, most tiresome phase of this game was when specter/shocktrain was the meta. The matches were pretty boring. The current version is much better. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree, my friend. - MHPhakeem
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Post by moses on Oct 19, 2020 0:33:00 GMT -5
This Isn't a matter of opinion, sorry. this is objectively the worst off the game has ever been, Whether or not you enjoy a particular piece of content isn't relevant, I personally like how my Corona Leech looks, but that doesn't matter If the game is dying, and it's dying quickly, the screenshot I posted is irrefutable evidence of the current game state being anything but steady, Pixonic has been digging their own grave for years now, and now they're getting buried, no amount of rose rinted glasses/dishonestly will change that. Hi there again, I disagree. the darkest, most tiresome phase of this game was when specter/shocktrain was the meta. The matches were pretty boring. The current version is much better. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree, my friend. - MHPhakeem I might be in the minority, but I think the spectre shocktrain era has nothing on the imbalance we have today. now there is a little more diversity in the massive $ hangar, but I am still seeing players with 5+ hawks in multiple hangars (I guess they bought huge amounts of event tokens and got more hawks than planned - who needs 6-7 of the things?).
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Post by NexusBlade on Oct 19, 2020 0:36:23 GMT -5
This Isn't a matter of opinion, sorry. this is objectively the worst off the game has ever been, Whether or not you enjoy a particular piece of content isn't relevant, I personally like how my Corona Leech looks, but that doesn't matter If the game is dying, and it's dying quickly, the screenshot I posted is irrefutable evidence of the current game state being anything but steady, Pixonic has been digging their own grave for years now, and now they're getting buried, no amount of rose rinted glasses/dishonestly will change that. Hi there again, I disagree. the darkest, most tiresome phase of this game was when specter/shocktrain was the meta. The matches were pretty boring. The current version is much better. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree, my friend. - MHPhakeem I should be more clear I'm not arguing that the balance is the worst it's ever been, although this is the case I'm not making that argument here, The player base is vanishing, having a one hour wait time without being in the LPQ does not happen unless the player base is disintegrating, and even top clans are falling apart, This Isn't agree to disagree, you're just wrong.
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Post by Garbage game on Oct 19, 2020 0:41:16 GMT -5
You completely missed my analogy. Let me make it simpler. You said you played Starcraft before. Would you still be happy to play if every now and then your opponent started off with 2000 more minerals and gas than you? Hello my friend, No, I don’t think I would like that. The thing is, in StarCraft you know with 100% certainty what your opponent is starting the match with - because they have the same thing every match; a CC/nexus/hatchery and workers. War robots, by its very nature, has matches where people have better gear or inferior gear. That’s the way this game is set up. If you’ve been playing longer, or you have been spending more, or if you are a superior pilot (and therefore, getting better rewards from matches)… There’s a good chance that when the game starts you have a better hanger than the other guy. That kind of thing doesn’t happen in StarCraft. No one starts the game with upgraded units...Terran doesn’t start the game with Thors, ever. in War Robots, imbalance is built into the DNA of the game, and it’s something you either overcome, or at times benefit from if your team is stacked. That’s life in this game. - MHPhakeem Hangar-based Matchmaking was a thing in the past. But I guess Whales don't like fighting Whales because they lose? They gotta have weaker players to feed on. And even if you do know what starting race the opponent has in Starcraft, there are still so many outplays and build paths to be made. In War Robots it's mostly how they spent more $$$ than you, and you are at an almost insurmountable disadvantage.
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Post by moses on Oct 19, 2020 0:45:25 GMT -5
Hi Hades, If Pix wants to continue extracting a revenue stream from the minnows to the whales, the onus is on them to find a way to satiate their big spenders, whilst finding an avenue to keep the game feeling competitive for their newer players and $maller contributors. It’s a difficult needle to thread, but I think they’ve done all right. […] I agree that this is entirely what Pix's goal should be, but I think they are failing at the moment and pushing much too hard on the monetisation and the player experience is suffering, including that of the big spenders. I would love to see some more general statistics, but from my recent experience I can say that a lot of formally highly active, Top league players have quit the game as they cannot keep up. Those kind of players were spending much above the levels that you mentioned and they were the kind of players that keep the games interesting for the true whales. this is a major change as that group that I mention have carried on through all previous changes, bought into the new shiny gear and played hours and hours per day competing for top slots (we were one of the first 10 clans into the S league on iOS). again, just my own experience, but I do feel like it fits with the wider feedback I hear on this forum and on other community resources.
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Post by mhphakeem on Oct 19, 2020 1:10:13 GMT -5
Hello my friend, No, I don’t think I would like that. The thing is, in StarCraft you know with 100% certainty what your opponent is starting the match with - because they have the same thing every match; a CC/nexus/hatchery and workers. War robots, by its very nature, has matches where people have better gear or inferior gear. That’s the way this game is set up. If you’ve been playing longer, or you have been spending more, or if you are a superior pilot (and therefore, getting better rewards from matches)… There’s a good chance that when the game starts you have a better hanger than the other guy. That kind of thing doesn’t happen in StarCraft. No one starts the game with upgraded units...Terran doesn’t start the game with Thors, ever. in War Robots, imbalance is built into the DNA of the game, and it’s something you either overcome, or at times benefit from if your team is stacked. That’s life in this game. - MHPhakeem Hangar-based Matchmaking was a thing in the past. But I guess Whales don't like fighting Whales because they lose? They gotta have weaker players to feed on. And even if you do know what starting race the opponent has in Starcraft, there are still so many outplays and build paths to be made. In War Robots it's mostly how they spent more $$$ than you, and you are at an almost insurmountable disadvantage. Hiya again GG, I don’t know how whales feel about fighting one another. I assume that they are good pilots also… I figure when they fight one another, that’s probably one of the few scenarios where it’s purely a skill match. I would guess they are pretty amped when they face one another. As far as feeding on weaker players? lol. We ALL do that. and my point in referencing StarCraft is that in the beginning of the game, everyone has the same thing. Everyone has six workers, and everyone has a base. That is not war robots. In the beginning of the game, some players are very powerful, and some not so much. Like I said, imbalance is built into the DNA of war robots. - MHPhakeem
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Post by mhphakeem on Oct 19, 2020 1:16:30 GMT -5
Hi Hades, If Pix wants to continue extracting a revenue stream from the minnows to the whales, the onus is on them to find a way to satiate their big spenders, whilst finding an avenue to keep the game feeling competitive for their newer players and $maller contributors. It’s a difficult needle to thread, but I think they’ve done all right. […] I agree that this is entirely what Pix's goal should be, but I think they are failing at the moment and pushing much too hard on the monetisation and the player experience is suffering, including that of the big spenders. I would love to see some more general statistics, but from my recent experience I can say that a lot of formally highly active, Top league players have quit the game as they cannot keep up. Those kind of players were spending much above the levels that you mentioned and they were the kind of players that keep the games interesting for the true whales. this is a major change as that group that I mention have carried on through all previous changes, bought into the new shiny gear and played hours and hours per day competing for top slots (we were one of the first 10 clans into the S league on iOS). again, just my own experience, but I do feel like it fits with the wider feedback I hear on this forum and on other community resources. Heya! You could be right. I really don’t know the mindset of the top tier players. I’m certainly not one of them, so I don’t know what they think about plunking down the money every season or so, and grinding to get rating. I figure if they are still spending, then they have fully outfitted Hawks to go with their all-star hanger and they’re still dominating. So, what’s really changed for them? I’m asking because I’m honestly curious. I mean, I’ve played against some of these clans with their Hawks and indestructible titans; They still seem pretty powerful to me. - MHPhakeem
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Post by mhphakeem on Oct 19, 2020 1:24:29 GMT -5
Hi there again, I disagree. the darkest, most tiresome phase of this game was when specter/shocktrain was the meta. The matches were pretty boring. The current version is much better. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree, my friend. - MHPhakeem I should be more clear I'm not arguing that the balance is the worst it's ever been, although this is the case I'm not making that argument here, The player base is vanishing, having a one hour wait time without being in the LPQ does not happen unless the player base is disintegrating, and even top clans are falling apart, This Isn't agree to disagree, you're just wrong. Hi Nexus Blade, I play mostly beacon rush and wait times are very short. from my own point of view, I get no sense the game is collapsing. I actually quit my last clan, in part, because the clan leader would just complain endlessly for about two or three years about how the game was just being destroyed and the player base fleeing. I guess I just got tired of it. Once I didn’t have to listen to him carping about it, the game seemed robust and active to me. Q times were very short, and I didn’t have much of a problem with anything. So I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. Things seem okie dokie to me. - MHPhakeem
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Post by mhphakeem on Oct 19, 2020 1:29:19 GMT -5
Hi there again, I disagree. the darkest, most tiresome phase of this game was when specter/shocktrain was the meta. The matches were pretty boring. The current version is much better. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree, my friend. - MHPhakeem I might be in the minority, but I think the spectre shocktrain era has nothing on the imbalance we have today. now there is a little more diversity in the massive $ hangar, but I am still seeing players with 5+ hawks in multiple hangars (I guess they bought huge amounts of event tokens and got more hawks than planned - who needs 6-7 of the things?). Hi again! idk. I really didn’t like that period of the game. There was no movement...just folks hiding. to be honest, I don’t see the attraction in buying a meta hanger. If a game is really really easy… How is that fun? I just don’t understand it. - MHPhakeem
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Post by NexusBlade on Oct 19, 2020 2:16:14 GMT -5
I should be more clear I'm not arguing that the balance is the worst it's ever been, although this is the case I'm not making that argument here, The player base is vanishing, having a one hour wait time without being in the LPQ does not happen unless the player base is disintegrating, and even top clans are falling apart, This Isn't agree to disagree, you're just wrong. Hi Nexus Blade, I play mostly beacon rush and wait times are very short. from my own point of view, I get no sense the game is collapsing. I actually quit my last clan, in part, because the clan leader would just complain endlessly for about two or three years about how the game was just being destroyed and the player base fleeing. I guess I just got tired of it. Once I didnât have to listen to him carping about it, the game seemed robust and active to me. Q times were very short, and I didnât have much of a problem with anything. So I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. Things seem okie dokie to me. - MHPhakeem I don't seek to be overly abrasive, but holy 「dookie」 man this is next level dishonesty, I would call it naivety but with 8k+ battles you don't get that excuse, Most people here are aware of the actual facts, some have some rose tinted glasses but even they are seeing the problems now, I think this sums up your arguments so far:
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Post by Flaminius on Oct 19, 2020 2:20:54 GMT -5
I have pretty much filled my troll bingo card now.
Case for the prosecution that War Robots is a bit 「dookie」: Clear evidence of a dwindling playerbase, half baked releases, 100% of its previously biggest fans hating it, all of War Robots social media.
Case for the defence: This dude still likes it. Or possibly really needs some attention.
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Post by Garbage game on Oct 19, 2020 2:45:13 GMT -5
I should be more clear I'm not arguing that the balance is the worst it's ever been, although this is the case I'm not making that argument here, The player base is vanishing, having a one hour wait time without being in the LPQ does not happen unless the player base is disintegrating, and even top clans are falling apart, This Isn't agree to disagree, you're just wrong. Hi Nexus Blade, I play mostly beacon rush and wait times are very short. from my own point of view, I get no sense the game is collapsing. I actually quit my last clan, in part, because the clan leader would just complain endlessly for about two or three years about how the game was just being destroyed and the player base fleeing. I guess I just got tired of it. Once I didn’t have to listen to him carping about it, the game seemed robust and active to me. Q times were very short, and I didn’t have much of a problem with anything. So I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. Things seem okie dokie to me. - MHPhakeem In a 30 min of BR duos tonight we went against some of the same people 3 or 4 times. After a 30+ second queue time. Real indicative of a healthy Champion playerbase eh?
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Post by Spicy Jones on Oct 19, 2020 2:47:41 GMT -5
Obvious shill is obvious.
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Post by NexusBlade on Oct 19, 2020 2:50:10 GMT -5
Hi Nexus Blade, I play mostly beacon rush and wait times are very short. from my own point of view, I get no sense the game is collapsing. I actually quit my last clan, in part, because the clan leader would just complain endlessly for about two or three years about how the game was just being destroyed and the player base fleeing. I guess I just got tired of it. Once I didn’t have to listen to him carping about it, the game seemed robust and active to me. Q times were very short, and I didn’t have much of a problem with anything. So I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. Things seem okie dokie to me. - MHPhakeem In a 30 min of BR duos tonight we went against some of the same people 3 or 4 times. After a 30+ second queue time. Real indicative of a healthy Champion playerbase eh? And thats in BR, the most populated game mode, and all others are barren wastelands, but no of course I'm sure the playerbase is all okie dokie my friend.
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Post by Spicy Jones on Oct 19, 2020 2:52:44 GMT -5
In a 30 min of BR duos tonight we went against some of the same people 3 or 4 times. After a 30+ second queue time. Real indicative of a healthy Champion playerbase eh? And thats in BR, the most populated game mode, and all others are barren wastelands, but no of course I'm sure the playerbase is all okie dokie my friend. Had a 4 minute wait time for FFA today. Yeah, real active playerbase.
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