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Post by T-Town Striker on Oct 11, 2020 15:33:09 GMT -5
This is a post I put on our discord text for some letting off frustrating so thought I’d do same here. Making it through this latest season MM pairing and now seeing the outcome of approximately 40% of our Clan not even playing since then are you guys/ gals experiencing the same ?
Here’s my discord post - Shortly ago myself and randoms took on TB a power stacked clan, next game Cap with me and same Clan. Guys with us were D level Clan Squad. All week end it’s been similar and I’ve come to conclusion player base is so low MM looking in lower ranks.
But at times I think why isn’t MM vs MTA against the Clans near our ranking ?
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Post by T34 on Oct 11, 2020 17:50:02 GMT -5
Similar experience in our clan. Many guys in our clan who pulled 10K and 20K+ weekly clan cups before the changes are practically dormant and dont even break 100 cups. Its tough to put put together a 6 man squad.
The nerfing, new OP releases and MM-ing changes really hurt F2Ps and minnows. Some gave up but from what i've seen many just log in to play a game or two and thats that. I suppose this is across the board and thats why Pix has toned down the -22 re-awards, provides better token offers (supposed mistake in pricing) and constantly tweaking the MM-er. The issue with better offers is that F2Ps wont buy it by definition and its too risky for minnows because you may only get a bunch of PCs. The nerfings were excessive and destroyed F2P and minnow hangers. The MM-er just compounds the problem.
The other issue is that getting a game in FFA is next to impossible for most of the day and Dom times in the 1 min plus are also a problem. I would go as far as saying Pix has an issue with DAU counts and that matrix is looking awful.
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Post by Poopface on Oct 11, 2020 19:05:43 GMT -5
Yep. To the OP, this is why I just started running a FU hanger. I kept getting screwed playing matches where we had no chance, where my Arthur’s shield was annihilated in 3 shots.
I figure it’s not tanking if I’m trying to win with a new hanger type. Eventually my league will bottom out and I’ll climb as I level gear.
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Post by cookieDad on Oct 11, 2020 23:25:51 GMT -5
Similar experience in our clan. Many guys in our clan who pulled 10K and 20K+ weekly clan cups before the changes are practically dormant and dont even break 100 cups. Its tough to put put together a 6 man squad. The nerfing, new OP releases and MM-ing changes really hurt F2Ps and minnows. Some gave up but from what i've seen many just log in to play a game or two and thats that. I suppose this is across the board and thats why Pix has toned down the -22 re-awards, provides better token offers (supposed mistake in pricing) and constantly tweaking the MM-er. The issue with better offers is that F2Ps wont buy it by definition and its too risky for minnows because you may only get a bunch of PCs. The nerfings were excessive and destroyed F2P and minnow hangers. The MM-er just compounds the problem. The other issue is that getting a game in FFA is next to impossible for most of the day and Dom times in the 1 min plus are also a problem. I would go as far as saying Pix has an issue with DAU counts and that matrix is looking awful. Spot on in every sense. Same in our clan, most players are near-dormant. Instead of looking forward to some battles, it now takes effort to start the game, pick-up the tablet or whatever. Do one run of boosters, so get about 3 battles in, and that's it. Sometimes just 2 battles, and fed up. Pix is bringing out new stuff too quickly, because this means nerfing the previously released items. There is no point in MK2-ing stuff, unless you are a major spender. So you stick to what you have, better near Meta gear that is maxed, than investing in new stuff that won't go beyond MK1.10 or so. Farming silver / OXP / Pt etc. has become even harder, the rewards are just not worth my time. Better watch some Ads, clear cache, watch some more Ads; that earns me more Silver. This was the very first Upgrade Overdrive where I could not be bothered. Normally I had an Excel ready, all calculated what to upgrade, at what time, when to speed-up using gold. This time I did not even start an upgrade until yesterday afternoon. No point, stuff will be nerfed by the time it reaches a playable level. Sad, the game was great and Pix killed it. Ps, I told my clan I was happy with the recent nerfs. Normally I spend well over 100USD monthly (way more). This month continued my Premium (dont ask me why) and that's it. Saving a lot of money now. |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Oct 12, 2020 9:01:26 GMT -5
cookieDad: I'm going to take a look at running 6-Pack League. Toe-in-the-water. It would be quite a $ saver.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Oct 12, 2020 9:14:41 GMT -5
T-Town Striker: Qualified or not I run in upper Champions League. I'm in an S clan and face S clans often. FWIW: With the sweeping change to the MM, it's more rare for me to find Masters or below in a squad of randoms. If there is a Master they seem to hold their own, not tank, and get decent stats. And the matches in general are WAY tougher than they used to be. Pix has finally put the pay-hards into the same sandbox. It's about time.
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Post by Poopface on Oct 12, 2020 12:36:53 GMT -5
Interesting. Your experience is counter to mine.
I implemented my FU hanger philosophy the other day because I was tired of getting annihilated in matches by players geared far better than I.
Now that I'm down to Master 2 (and still falling), I'm finding a lot more tankers and faders. The last time I got similarly frustrated (Summer 2017) the lower quality gameplay was in low Expert and Diamond. I think the reports of a massively dwindling player base must be true if this lack of quality gameplay is seen in Masters league.
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Post by no pain 80 on Oct 12, 2020 13:11:32 GMT -5
I, kind of, responded this in elsewhere. I will summarize.
Our big brother clan has merged with another S-clan after the rebalance update. Most moved out, some remained and merged with us who moved in. Currently, we could fill only 2/3 of our ranks, and a majority of our active members have either not joined or gone dormant. We use to have multiple 10k clan points by the mid season, including myself. Now, we have only 2 members above 1k. I barely find a mate to run a duo, and most days I end up going solo. And the solo games, you know, suck big time.
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Post by T34 on Oct 12, 2020 17:00:39 GMT -5
Similar experience in our clan. Many guys in our clan who pulled 10K and 20K+ weekly clan cups before the changes are practically dormant and dont even break 100 cups. Its tough to put put together a 6 man squad. The nerfing, new OP releases and MM-ing changes really hurt F2Ps and minnows. Some gave up but from what i've seen many just log in to play a game or two and thats that. I suppose this is across the board and thats why Pix has toned down the -22 re-awards, provides better token offers (supposed mistake in pricing) and constantly tweaking the MM-er. The issue with better offers is that F2Ps wont buy it by definition and its too risky for minnows because you may only get a bunch of PCs. The nerfings were excessive and destroyed F2P and minnow hangers. The MM-er just compounds the problem. The other issue is that getting a game in FFA is next to impossible for most of the day and Dom times in the 1 min plus are also a problem. I would go as far as saying Pix has an issue with DAU counts and that matrix is looking awful. Spot on in every sense. Same in our clan, most players are near-dormant. Instead of looking forward to some battles, it now takes effort to start the game, pick-up the tablet or whatever. Do one run of boosters, so get about 3 battles in, and that's it. Sometimes just 2 battles, and fed up. Pix is bringing out new stuff too quickly, because this means nerfing the previously released items. There is no point in MK2-ing stuff, unless you are a major spender. So you stick to what you have, better near Meta gear that is maxed, than investing in new stuff that won't go beyond MK1.10 or so. Farming silver / OXP / Pt etc. has become even harder, the rewards are just not worth my time. Better watch some Ads, clear cache, watch some more Ads; that earns me more Silver. This was the very first Upgrade Overdrive where I could not be bothered. Normally I had an Excel ready, all calculated what to upgrade, at what time, when to speed-up using gold. This time I did not even start an upgrade until yesterday afternoon. No point, stuff will be nerfed by the time it reaches a playable level. Sad, the game was great and Pix killed it. Ps, I told my clan I was happy with the recent nerfs. Normally I spend well over 100USD monthly (way more). This month continued my Premium (dont ask me why) and that's it. Saving a lot of money now. I think the bottom line is that rapid OP content release, excessive nerfings, game imbalance and the match maker has made the game highly frustrating and not much fun for a significant number of players. Pix needs to fix this quick imo. Better graphics wont make any difference if the fundamentals are rotten. |
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Post by Poopface on Oct 13, 2020 6:39:34 GMT -5
most days I end up going solo. And the solo games, you know, suck big time. Agreed. My gameplay is almost exclusively solo. It really does suck for fun. My hunch is because Pix is foolishly squeezing ever harder to get blood from a rock. |
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Oct 13, 2020 6:44:19 GMT -5
I see zero change in mm running solo as the majority of games are me & masters v mostly champs...
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Oct 13, 2020 8:51:26 GMT -5
T-Town Striker : Qualified or not I run in upper Champions League. I'm in an S clan and face S clans often. FWIW: With the sweeping change to the MM, it's more rare for me to find Masters or below in a squad of randoms. If there is a Master they seem to hold their own, not tank, and get decent stats. And the matches in general are WAY tougher than they used to be. Pix has finally put the pay-hards into the same sandbox. It's about time. So, I umm, took a closer look at my matches this morning (6 am.) A many of the matches were 11 Masters/low champs and me. The ^^above^^ still seems to be true at 8 pm, but in the morning it can be easier on my ol' bones. Often it does "seem" like the quality of play is up. Like the knowledgeable players are Masters and the whale-like players are champs (knowledgeable or not.) ʂɬɛɛƖ |
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Oct 13, 2020 9:21:50 GMT -5
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Post by altascot on Oct 13, 2020 14:40:49 GMT -5
This latest matchmaking rebalance is a total joke. Before it went into effect, I was ranked over 5,100; but after the rebalance, my rank was 3,200. What happened to "we're taking everyone down 1,200 pts"?!?! I'm not a math genius, but I can see that 5,100 minus 3,200 is a 1,900 pt difference. So they basically robbed me of an additional 700 pts because...... On top of that, I was immediately being pitted against players ranked 4,500+. So what did the rebalance really accomplish other than my daily crate Ag rewards being taken down from 500K to 325K?  I'm glad you asked! Like others have noted on this thread, about 95% of my clan doesn't play anymore. Literally. ZERO playing. And my previously top clanmates are only getting something like 50 cups a day or are even negative (and not due to diving/tanking). TBH, I can understand why they don't play or play minimally: The game crashes with 1 minute left and my team winning (reported it to Pix several days ago and still haven't gotten a reply), thus robbing me of the daily 20 special delivery coins and often taking my ranking down even more (as if I intentionally left the game). I save and save and save to get a meta bot (like Ravana) or level up a weapon (like storm) only to have them nerfed a week later (which is exactly what happened when I finally got my Ravana and leveled up my storms; now I don't play either). I can't keep up with Pix's cycle for releasing new bots and weapons which means I'm always behind the curve and continue dying within seconds. I only get garbage when opening the special delivery chests (tell me again how some players have 2 or even 3 Hawks already but I only get the lowest-value items nearly 100% of the time?!?!?). Yeah, Pix scr***ed the pooch on this and I suspect a lot of players like myself and perhaps some on this forum will no longer be spending money on the game, no longer investing in higher-level upgrades, and simply not playing as much or even at all. At this point, I'm only playing bots I consider to be fun (and that, of course, tend to die right away) and am mostly sticking with FFA so I can just get my daily rewards. I don't care about rank anymore and I suspect at some point in the near future, I won't care about the game either. |
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Post by T-Town Striker on Oct 15, 2020 15:33:20 GMT -5
Player activity dwindles now since remastered faster than a week ago, I read chat now guys done but may come back in a week or 2 to see if improved but I figure once your out gaming cycle it’s easy not to pick back up. Info today on furthering Bot changes isn’t helping enthusiasm either. I simply post to them now -“ no problem I understand “.
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I'm glad you asked! Like others have noted on this thread, about 95% of my clan doesn't play anymore. Literally. ZERO playing. And my previously top clanmates are only getting something like 50 cups a day or are even negative (and not due to diving/tanking).