Pinatas VS Aphids after new Pinata mechanic

The beauty of Aphids has always been the ability to lob them from cover to soften up your opponent. That won't change with the upgrade to the pinata mechanic.

Pinatas, Tulumbas and Pins are going to reload just like Orkans, and also their designs changed as well in the most recent test server version.

don't like the new design as they are too similar. you won't be able to tell the new designs apart from 500m out on a phone screen. (I'm already finding it hard to tell tulumbus at 500m away my bad eyes...

Yes, Pinatas probably will win.

From my experience, Aphids no longer reliably go over any obstacle, and seem to often do no damage when they hit.

Aphids are becoming frustrating and I'll be switching to the reloading pinatas.

Thats exactly what I was afraid of.
I never used Aphids before, they seem to miss so much that the higher theoric DPM seems to not be practicable.

I have one Griffin Aphids and one Griffin Pinata, cannot decide?

I bought 2 aphids because everyone said they were great.... Played with them a week ..Sold them ..Lol the damage they were doing was not that great in my opinion .. only missiles that seem worth it to me are Pinatas at knife fighting range.. but that's just my play style I guess. ?

 EDIT: this buff when and if it comes will change my Leo setup again ... Used to run Thunder / 3x Pinatas .. but with the new Punisher buff I have been running 3x Punishers with great effect.. might try 2x punisher 1 Pinata.. 

DB Griffin finally can continuesly shoot 4 missiles after the DB button, has higher chance to bring down the almost dead red.

I have a DB Griffin and a plasma Griff. I'll be keeping the ork/pinata setup on one but have been planning for a while to switch the mags off of the other and put a couple of retired aphids on (once I have a chance to upgrade them a bit) as I think they give a decisive advantage on Dead City and Power Plant. The proposed change to pinatas hasn't changed my thinking on that front as the two weapons have quite different mechanics and I like a mixed hangar - jack of all trades, master of none!

I run both at reasonable levels and this is my opinion they are a bit too different once you get proficient at both. Aphids let you shoot a little more often, from plasma standoff distance. They are great for the Yama map where you toss them up and over the ramp and in the short maps where you can lob hate down onto someone every time you jump and sometimes when you are standing around if you know where to do it from.

Pinatas are harder to use and much more unforgiving, but if you get them right (e.g. lead the opponent, and time the firing and jump) they deal A LOT more damage in a very short amount of time and tend to actually criple the opponent (probaby break their legs). Also, well timed pinata shreds Gary, while aphids just miss. Ironically while the aphid build requires more patience and tactics but less gunning skills I see it being more useful as I go up levels (more bigger slower bots, and longer range, indirect fire to protect me more) where as, a well piloted regular DB owns Gold and down (IMO) maybe higher than gold but I'm not there yet.

I absolutely love the Stuka. That is the only Griff build that has held a position in my hangar for a week straight without being rotated out.

The Aphids will stay in my hangar. Oh sure I will try the Pinatas again, with or without the buff. The Pinata damage potential is undeniable. However, the way I play leans more to the Aphids. And that whole "not going over obstacles" thing gets negated if in a jump. Plus, I don't really see an issue with it. Right as you are firing, walk back a step, if you are up against a wall, and they go over it fine if it isn't too high. Also, you can fling them a bit around corners... great when getting the side beacon in DC, for example. And the damage is damn good, if not on Pinata level.

If you find yourself about to be in a Pinata situation (like the Red is about to come around a corner about 50m away) in a Stuka, save the Aphids for when you get face to face, they will hit almost like a Pinata burst and up close you don't have as many, if any, leakers that don't hit or go astray. They tend to fly straight at the target that close. Let the Aphids fly, then jump back while finishing the Ork unload, and by the time you land it will almost be time to fire the aphids off again... which is a huge plus if you jumped over a low wall and have separation from your target, but still have lock. Again, they fit the way I play and provide more opportunity for hitting the Reds before they can hit you back - which is always preferred in my book!

No, they can miss if you don't do a little leading, depending on the angle that you were traveling in relation to the bot using them.

What was your Leo level?  Did you see the level of the Aphids chucked at you?

Leo is level 7.

I was walking straight at the guy, closing distance. He was stationary, firing Aphids and Tarans from a Griffin. I don't know what level they were. I guess it's possible they were low level.

I didn't think he could miss with Aphids in a straight line. :-)

The only situation where I find myself wanting pinatas on my Griff instead of Aphids is on Canyon, and only when me and my opponent are both in the basin but on opposite sides of the bridge. Aphids hit the bridge, while orkans fly clean under.

I know I've aggravated many aphid spammers with my Gareth. If I am moving sideways or backwards the Aphids will always miss. Galahad can also dodge with speed alone. You gotta wait for the right time to fire aphids off.

To best use Aphids you need Patience.  
I wish i could fit a light-hardpoint with a boombox and blast this song to my random squadmates at the start of matches.