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Post by Desc440 on Sept 22, 2020 16:56:26 GMT -5
What guns are people finding to be good platforms for Effect (A?) chips?
So far, for me: -Coronas are suprisingly good at this, because each shot is actually 20 "rounds" and you're firing 2 shots per second. So at close range, you can suppress/freeze/lockdown super quick. -Tasers are pretty good too because they unload a lot of "particles" each second and they don't miss, plus their long range means you can effect targets almost across the map even though your damage is marginal. -Flamethrowers also throw down a lot of "particles" per second so they can be great but at longer range it's harder to hit.
Surprisingly (and sadly) I'm finding that lazer and leadhose are not as good as I'd hoped at being Effects platforms. My lazerhose Fenrir takes FOREVER to lockdown a target, by which time they're dead or just about to be dead - and that's with THREE T2 Lockdowners!
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Post by punishingcossack on Sept 22, 2020 18:51:21 GMT -5
flamers are by far the best from what I've seen. I can freeze ppl in under a 1s with 2 T2 chips on blitz blaze. This build is fantastic at defending beacons btw
I agree that the energy machine guns don't freeze as fast as expected. however, a fire breathing Nucleon Ao Jun does freeze very fast, also under a second.
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Post by Desc440 on Sept 22, 2020 19:04:11 GMT -5
flamers are by far the best from what I've seen. I can freeze ppl in under a 1s with 2 T2 chips on blitz blaze. This build is fantastic at defending beacons btw I agree that the energy machine guns don't freeze as fast as expected. however, a fire breathing Nucleon Ao Jun does freeze very fast, also under a second. I think the 1 second mark is my litmus test for wether or not it's even worth running the chips. What's the point of locking a target down if it dies half a second later?
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Post by Grrrega on Sept 22, 2020 23:48:45 GMT -5
What about freeze weapons for freeze and lockdow weapons for lockdowner? I know you don't bring some new effect but it should be quite quicker?
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Post by bahogilok on Sept 23, 2020 0:06:16 GMT -5
What about freeze weapons for freeze and lockdow weapons for lockdowner? I know you don't bring some new effect but it should be quite quicker? It makes them extremely fast. 2x L9 pulsars needs 3-4 seconds to lockdown, but with a single T2 Lockdowner a single pulsar locks down in 2-3 seconds. I run Lockdowner on my pulsar platform and freezer on my rime/glacier striders
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Post by ironstar on Sept 23, 2020 0:53:02 GMT -5
Four shredders on a blitz trigger freeze effect almost instantly (on top of innate lockdown from the weapons themselves)
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Post by Garbage game on Sept 23, 2020 0:55:37 GMT -5
What guns are people finding to be good platforms for Effect (A?) chips?
So far, for me: -Coronas are suprisingly good at this, because each shot is actually 20 "rounds" and you're firing 2 shots per second. So at close range, you can suppress/freeze/lockdown super quick. -Tasers are pretty good too because they unload a lot of "particles" each second and they don't miss, plus their long range means you can effect targets almost across the map even though your damage is marginal. -Flamethrowers also throw down a lot of "particles" per second so they can be great but at longer range it's harder to hit.
Surprisingly (and sadly) I'm finding that lazer and leadhose are not as good as I'd hoped at being Effects platforms. My lazerhose Fenrir takes FOREVER to lockdown a target, by which time they're dead or just about to be dead - and that's with THREE T2 Lockdowners!
Look at Happy Fun Ball ‘s analysis war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/42352/comparison-tier-2-3-chips
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Post by Happy Fun Ball on Sept 23, 2020 2:22:43 GMT -5
What guns are people finding to be good platforms for Effect (A?) chips?
So far, for me: -Coronas are suprisingly good at this, because each shot is actually 20 "rounds" and you're firing 2 shots per second. So at close range, you can suppress/freeze/lockdown super quick. -Tasers are pretty good too because they unload a lot of "particles" each second and they don't miss, plus their long range means you can effect targets almost across the map even though your damage is marginal. -Flamethrowers also throw down a lot of "particles" per second so they can be great but at longer range it's harder to hit.
Surprisingly (and sadly) I'm finding that lazer and leadhose are not as good as I'd hoped at being Effects platforms. My lazerhose Fenrir takes FOREVER to lockdown a target, by which time they're dead or just about to be dead - and that's with THREE T2 Lockdowners!
Look at Happy Fun Ball ‘s analysis war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/42352/comparison-tier-2-3-chipsI need to add some stuff to the list over the next several days. Some specialized weapons such as Pulsars can generate enough particles to trigger drone effects when run in multiples. Pulsar Leech with suppression is crazy against almost all bots including Ao Ming.
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Post by punishingcossack on Sept 23, 2020 3:25:14 GMT -5
Four shredders on a blitz trigger freeze effect almost instantly (on top of innate lockdown from the weapons themselves) just to make sure I have this right, you're talking about four shredders with 2 T2 freezer?
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Post by ironstar on Sept 23, 2020 5:15:06 GMT -5
Four shredders on a blitz trigger freeze effect almost instantly (on top of innate lockdown from the weapons themselves) just to make sure I have this right, you're talking about four shredders with 2 T2 freezer? Indeed. It takes around half a clip or thereabouts to trigger the effect
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Post by spectre729 on Sept 23, 2020 7:08:18 GMT -5
for punishers and avengers, try to shoot at within 200m or closer. i think that it might help with the effect chips
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Post by erik1 on Sept 28, 2020 11:57:59 GMT -5
Surprisingly (and sadly) I'm finding that lazer and leadhose are not as good as I'd hoped at being Effects platforms. My lazerhose Fenrir takes FOREVER to lockdown a target, by which time they're dead or just about to be dead - and that's with THREE T2 Lockdowners!
Even with the pilot skills that allow leadhose guns to enter acceleration mode faster, I find this to sadly be true. However, since my leadhose Tyr has adapted to be a Titan healer and a Titan killer, the enemy Titans can usually live long enough for my effects chips to work. For now, I'm still debating and experimenting on whether to stick with two T2 supressors or one T2 freeze and one T2 supressor. I did indeed manage to both freeze and suppress an Arthur, but I need to do more testing to see if the combination is still worth it.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Sept 28, 2020 13:46:40 GMT -5
What guns are people finding to be good platforms for Effect (A?) chips?
So far, for me: -Coronas are suprisingly good at this, because each shot is actually 20 "rounds" and you're firing 2 shots per second. So at close range, you can suppress/freeze/lockdown super quick. -Tasers are pretty good too because they unload a lot of "particles" each second and they don't miss, plus their long range means you can effect targets almost across the map even though your damage is marginal. -Flamethrowers also throw down a lot of "particles" per second so they can be great but at longer range it's harder to hit.
Surprisingly (and sadly) I'm finding that lazer and leadhose are not as good as I'd hoped at being Effects platforms. My lazerhose Fenrir takes FOREVER to lockdown a target, by which time they're dead or just about to be dead - and that's with THREE T2 Lockdowners!
Avenger is insane. I just got back into the game and bought a freeze and suppression drone for my mercury. A set of shredders locks em down, then the avenger gets they frozen+suppressed for a truely insane combo. I only need one of each at T2 for the venger and would put a LD chip in as well if I had a drone woth that capacity and the chip itself.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Sept 28, 2020 13:53:24 GMT -5
Surprisingly (and sadly) I'm finding that lazer and leadhose are not as good as I'd hoped at being Effects platforms. My lazerhose Fenrir takes FOREVER to lockdown a target, by which time they're dead or just about to be dead - and that's with THREE T2 Lockdowners!
Even with the pilot skills that allow leadhose guns to enter acceleration mode faster, I find this to sadly be true. However, since my leadhose Tyr has adapted to be a Titan healer and a Titan killer, the enemy Titans can usually live long enough for my effects chips to work. For now, I'm still debating and experimenting on whether to stick with two T2 supressors or one T2 freeze and one T2 supressor. I did indeed manage to both freeze and suppress an Arthur, but I need to do more testing to see if the combination is still worth it. so far the avenger is working insanely well for me, maybe you just need the accuracy pilot skill or some other guns to help? Mine is a just a single avenger and 2 shredders and I mostly attack titans so far with it though. My favorite is the ravana squad I wiped the floor with. The entire time they were attacking my teammate I was giving them effects from a distance so they had to waste their abilities. Finally they get to me and they have no charges left to fight with.
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Post by erik1 on Sept 28, 2020 13:53:26 GMT -5
Avenger is insane. I just got back into the game and bought a freeze and suppression drone for my mercury. A set of shredders locks em down, then the avenger gets they frozen+suppressed for a truely insane combo. I only need one of each at T2 for the venger and would put a LD chip in as well if I had a drone woth that capacity and the chip itself. Makes sense. The Avenger fires bullets twice as fast as Punishers.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Sept 28, 2020 13:59:03 GMT -5
Avenger is insane. I just got back into the game and bought a freeze and suppression drone for my mercury. A set of shredders locks em down, then the avenger gets they frozen+suppressed for a truely insane combo. I only need one of each at T2 for the venger and would put a LD chip in as well if I had a drone woth that capacity and the chip itself. Makes sense. The Avenger fires bullets twice as fast as Punishers. Both punishers have half the bullets and same unload time so both have half the fire-rate. Something I actually didn't know. So with the avenger unloading about 30 bullets/s and the shredders each unloading 10/s that makes sense for how fast that bar fills up.
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Post by Desc440 on Sept 28, 2020 14:45:19 GMT -5
One setup I've found to be insanely effective is my Corona Ravana. 20 particales per shot per gun = almost instant whatever. I'm finding Suppressor to be best.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Sept 28, 2020 15:01:27 GMT -5
One setup I've found to be insanely effective is my Corona Ravana. 20 particales per shot per gun = almost instant whatever. I'm finding Suppressor to be best. suppression and freeze are best. Make em take a ton of extra damage and deal way less. Considering that you could still have 50%+ of your burst left after freezing them you can get a nearly free 10-15% damage boost per burst.
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Post by airjam101 on Oct 3, 2020 7:07:26 GMT -5
Going to try the freezer on energy shotguns after reading this.
I use a single freeze t2 (0.7) with my Leo's 3 sparks and a Zeus and it seems very effective.
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Post by erik1 on Oct 4, 2020 3:19:04 GMT -5
So, as an update, I find that if you have pilot skills that quickly accelerate your 3 or 4 punishers, and if you have an accumulation rate of at least 1.3 percent, punishers can be effective. I now use my punisher Tyr to suppress Titans. Preferably, I'd like to be able to both suppress and freeze them, but that won't happen until I can get T3 chips. T2 chips just don't work fast enough unless you double up on them, and I have yet to come across a drone that offers four A-Type slots.
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