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Post by GreenFace on Apr 11, 2017 2:17:55 GMT -5
How about the option:
Developer created the cause (league), and let the consequence (tanking) happen. So, why don't I?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 3:08:31 GMT -5
Don't tank
Don't leave
Don't camp
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Post by tsunisterbr on Apr 11, 2017 23:35:18 GMT -5
I don't like being manipulated, and that's what Pixonic make to us. I didn't pay real cash for being punished if I play good, and be faced against stronger opponents, in order to keep me in a forced 50% win rate. I wanna a fair, equal gear conditions against my opponents.
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Post by blastronaut on Apr 11, 2017 23:49:18 GMT -5
Don't tank Don't leave Don't camp Or do any & all of these things because we have our own MM Queue now.
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Post by tittysprnklz on Apr 12, 2017 22:58:33 GMT -5
I tank because clans suck. I tank because im not staying in a random group that dosnt understand simple combat maneuvers like flanking and over-lapping fields of fire. I tank because half these idoots dont know what a beacon is for. I tank because its my money and i will enjoy it as i please. ( i have pages of this stuff i can go on )
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Post by android2715 on Apr 13, 2017 2:02:11 GMT -5
I'm currently a lvl 6 griffin user, f2p, with 2 rdb, a db, and a molot user. Trying to get 5th slot but i can't do enough damage in diamond 3 with teamates able to do 2x the damage i can and being in 1v1 battles and doing everything right only to lose bc my db griifin can't insta a lvl 9 griffin but his lvl 10 taran/mags destroy me. So i sit back with my rdb and eventually get burned by a lot of carnage tridents which i can do nothing about as i don't have enuf for a plasma db yet. Very frustrating.
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Post by ☠♰LUZIFER♰☠ on Apr 13, 2017 2:08:30 GMT -5
I don´t tank and would like to have a button to kick out all tankers destroying the game...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 2:15:09 GMT -5
Other: I tank because I own this cool RC Tank. 2.4Ghz Radio Remote Control 1/16 US M1A2 Abrams Airsoft Battle Tank w/Sound & Smoke R/C RTR My poor RC Dino's never knew what hit them. ?
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Post by Prowler on Apr 16, 2017 6:49:29 GMT -5
Others, Real life events.
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Post by SATmaster728 on May 3, 2017 13:27:11 GMT -5
I tank because clans suck. I tank because im not staying in a random group that dosnt understand simple combat maneuvers like flanking and over-lapping fields of fire. I tank because half these idoots dont know what a beacon is for. I tank because its my money and i will enjoy it as i please. ( i have pages of this stuff i can go on ) Understand the frustration but I put more delicately, lol.
Yes I hate the squad and clan thing, understand it was a great boost to popularity for PIX, but ultimately it's what started the tanking issue and the need for constantly new MM systems. if the clans and squads didn't exist it would have been just 6 players against 6 randomly trying to blend. Either they did or didn't. Sure tanking would still happen but would have been less incentive if it was same level players against each other (1 - 5, 6 - 10, 11- 15, 15-20, 20-15, 25 - 30) those ratings are pretty irrelevant now and a level 6 bots are level 30, and a level 12 bot is level 30 too, so what is the point of it anymore?
there is a major issue with that though. there is a huge difference between those who reached level 30 recently, and those who have been there for while.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on May 3, 2017 14:02:01 GMT -5
Don't tank Don't leave Don't camp Shut up and play?
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Post by lizzard on May 8, 2017 21:37:29 GMT -5
If I understand 'Tanking' the only reason I do it is to play w/the Clan. They prefer what was the silver tier so I have a set of bots to play w/the clan that is different from those I regularly use. But no matter how bad a squad general match making gives me I never just drop out. That's as rude as shooting your dwuadmates in the back. That can be annoying. But in one battle last year I got all the beacons, twice and then made the reds, all six of them too afraid to leave their safe spawn. ASN all w/a Cossack! That was strange and my squad won! Is what I do tanking? Otherwise I run heavy bots on constant upgrade and speslize to try to get me to the top of the list or, gold tier as it was called. But the teams I face now can have me losing a lot. Friday, won the times in two hours. Saturday I lost four time. Played three hours both days. Todsy.? Lose, lose lose. I'm Silver ll and want to progress. I just saved and opened my city slot. Saved for a year. But I thought 'Ranking' would b sending in my rather dangerous Leo. And on the scoreboard, what fo the Stars & numbers mean? I'm already a 30 where else can I go when that number always goes up but my cups rise and fall like a stock market. And Match making makes me face the same guys over and over. Their trademark single green laser makes them hard to miss. Any one else do this or face what I've mentioned? An inquiring mind wants to know! Thanx guys & girls! Lizzard750??
Oh, I can't see what im typing do misspelled words and Google trans late make for making me look dumb. I'll get better, promise! Now, any one wanna squad w/me?
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Post by hyderier on May 10, 2017 5:20:57 GMT -5
Question: Is running a Zenit/Noricum Natasha tanking if you are trying your best? If you run anything in order to lower your league, then switch to something much much better to bash the low-levelers, it is tanking. If you decide that you want to be an arty Tasha camper, that's legit. Of course if you are a high level player, nobody is going to believe you...
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Post by Alanbit on May 10, 2017 6:14:53 GMT -5
Lowered willingly my league points to fight agains players with my same weapon level (or +1 +2). Playing against maxed players 95% of times made the game unplayable for me.
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Post by Diablo86 on May 10, 2017 6:55:35 GMT -5
Other: I don't tank. I play to win, every time.
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Post by orkanhappy on May 10, 2017 8:08:04 GMT -5
My 3yr old son quits when his favorite robot dies. Ive dl War Robots on his tablet, but he wants to play dads. I try to keep over his shoulder so he doesnt quit, but he still manages to quit here and there. Me, i never quit even if its 6 on 1.
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Post by GreenFace on May 10, 2017 21:32:05 GMT -5
For me it's not the league so much as the squad and clan play. They both have huge advantage over random players. If those things didn't exist, I would never have tanked at all. I've never made much in way of gold or points of any kind. Don't generally pay any attention to levels, leagues, etc. But when a battle is unwinnable, why keep going? Ok. Then let me rephrase the option: "Developer created the cause (not separating the clan/squad play from the randoms), and let the consequence (tanking) happen. So, why don't I?" The point is the same to my eyes. It IS the developer's mess!!! Yes, I understand that tanking is the action of the people who's gaming the system. BUT, as long as the developer wants to, I believe there's some simple solutions. Where do my believe comes from? Those other successful games out there can avoid that!!! If those games' developers can, why don't Pixonic? It doesn't make sense! My personal view is: They know, but they LET IT HAPPEN. Why? Because it makes people buy/upgrade stuffs to be more competitive!
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Post by GreenFace on May 11, 2017 8:09:16 GMT -5
Not sure why you quoted me on this...... Not disagreeing in any way with you. Fact is there are numerous reasons why people do it. Everyone just assumes it's always about the gold or moving down a level, etc.
Of course PIX isn't going to go all mental and start banning people as some say, your right they might not condone outright, but they know it keeps money flowing.
Oh sorry... I misinterpreted your post a bit then. I thought you think that there's no problem at all in their League. Peace
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Post by oakwhelie on May 11, 2017 13:29:05 GMT -5
i got pulled to trash gold once with my deffective 6/7 hangar. Other times i got frustated for being placed in big open map several times in a row while testing a knife bot (and karate bot). How about silly bot like ancile noricum leo? Did it once (the leo, lost count of the other one
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Post by desim8a on May 23, 2017 20:42:41 GMT -5
Guys, I dropped out of gold on purpose because I was up against players I had no business playing. My whole hangar is level 8 but my average damage was in the mid 300Ks.i was up all the time against level 10-11-12 bots and getting bent over game after game and no matter how hard i fought I placed no better than 4th. So I came down to play people I can actually compete against. I don't leave matches, I run around and play a bot or two to get about 150-200k worth of damage and then don't select another bot after those get killed.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on May 23, 2017 20:52:46 GMT -5
I tank because it is ethical. (Waits for the ban hammer)
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Post by 3castle on May 23, 2017 21:03:24 GMT -5
i dont. i dont want everybody to hate me. also, tanking seems very boring
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Post by shakingrabbit on May 24, 2017 1:35:56 GMT -5
I don't tank but if I were to, it would entirely be because of the heavy handed, totally inane 50% win ratio and absurd MM.
What's the point of the leagues? It's apparent that they have little to do with MM.
I just moved into G3 with:
5/8/5 Thunder Carnage 5/5/5/5/7 PDB 9/9/10 Plasma Gareth 7/7/7/7/6 RDB
Does that sound right? I'm just waiting for the beadown to start up...
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Post by T34 on May 24, 2017 2:01:07 GMT -5
I fail to see the upside of the MM beat down. when that loosing streak starts whats the point of fighting. bot drops in, I look around at the other guys and its a cold hard realisation that we are all going lose. Irrespective of skill, bots, weapons, levelling.... (except squadding) When you know you will be losing and when winning is more fun and more profitable I see the MM beat down as time wasting. Skills are not tested either because the loss is predetermined. The LQ was a good place to avoid this but now that will be nerfed so pointless to go in as of the 1st of June.
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Post by T34 on May 24, 2017 2:07:47 GMT -5
shakingrabbit - I think you are about to be clubbed by the MM. the clock is ticking. all you need to see is the win %. once over 55% its looking hard at you. at 60% it is trying hard to spank you. at 65% it gets very upset. good luck with reaching 70% in the NQ because you will be falling very hard.
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Post by T34 on May 24, 2017 2:11:37 GMT -5
Just one more statement. it is difficult to create a good MM. I realise that's a hard task so Pix is partially off the hook. however the current one just sucks.
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Post by Russel on May 24, 2017 3:40:17 GMT -5
I just plain suck. I keep yo-yoing between Silver and Gold 3. I can't seem to get any further than Gold3 until I upgrade more guns to inflict more pain to others. The problem is that even with a VIP subscription I am only managing around Ag 200000 per game which isn't even enough for a lick of paint on one level 10 Okran missle. Whoa, it seems like you need a Thunder Carny to rack some damage.
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Post by Chicken Adobo on May 24, 2017 4:12:27 GMT -5
I don't tank. I haven't been playing this game for so long to experience the "infamous" old MM but one thing is certain, there's something wrong with the current MM. I had this observation that the definition of challenge in this game isn't skillbased, but facing opponents way above your hangar level making it 99% impossible for your team to win.
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Post by Sybill on May 24, 2017 9:50:46 GMT -5
Should I decide to tank it would serve the sole purpose to express my protest towards Pixonic's disregard of what I personally believe is our communities expectation towards a fair matchmaking.
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Post by shakingrabbit on May 24, 2017 10:12:14 GMT -5
shakingrabbit - I think you are about to be clubbed by the MM. the clock is ticking. all you need to see is the win %. once over 55% its looking hard at you. at 60% it is trying hard to spank you. at 65% it gets very upset. good luck with reaching 70% in the NQ because you will be falling very hard. Oh yeah, I'm at a 64% win rate right now. I'm just waiting to be fodder for the next 15 or so matches...
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