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Post by bubblegum on Sept 15, 2020 1:02:32 GMT -5
You all suck. Those who claim to be free to play while building the flavor of the month meta bot can suck big donkey nuts.
You piss and moan about whatever bot is OP yet as soon as its released u build 1 in the workshop.
You cant seem to get a job, you cant seem to to support the game, you think being a cheap mofo is somehow related to skill, yet u use lock on weapons. 「fluffernutter」ing posers I hate u all.
"Hadurrrrr me f2p but me build ares. Hadurrrrr me f2p now me build ao jun. Stupid mother「fluffernutter」ers The game is p2w cuz u bozos are too 「slow」 to pay anything to support the game.
「fluffernutter」 f2p.
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Post by krebby on Sept 15, 2020 1:10:52 GMT -5
He seems nice.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Sept 15, 2020 4:11:53 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 6:54:45 GMT -5
A little change of pace ... I like this guy.
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Post by The VVatcher on Sept 15, 2020 7:02:51 GMT -5
He might be a genius
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Post by Poopface on Sept 15, 2020 8:11:16 GMT -5
In keeping with the general vibe I get from this thread, here is an appropriate gif for your viewing pleasure.
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 15, 2020 8:14:04 GMT -5
Here's another to cheer you up... And because I'm more of a dog person... And, because someone obviously needs a hug...
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Post by mechtout on Sept 15, 2020 8:37:15 GMT -5
Go outside for once kid
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 15, 2020 8:42:30 GMT -5
So, the whole reason the game sucks is because F2P don't still run Golems and Natties? Huh... well... OK. As good a theory as any.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Sept 15, 2020 8:49:48 GMT -5
I've always loved this one:
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 15, 2020 9:15:47 GMT -5
Well then, by all means, pay up sucka.
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Post by Loganspawn on Sept 15, 2020 9:46:18 GMT -5
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Post by hi5 on Sept 15, 2020 9:52:05 GMT -5
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Post by bubblegum on Sept 15, 2020 10:55:21 GMT -5
So, the whole reason the game sucks is because F2P don't still run Golems and Natties? Huh... well... OK. As good a theory as any. It's not that, it's the gen. pop. of f2p players who refuse to spend.
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Post by bubblegum on Sept 15, 2020 10:55:54 GMT -5
I'll go outside soon as u shave your neckbeard.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 15, 2020 11:00:49 GMT -5
So, the whole reason the game sucks is because F2P don't still run Golems and Natties? Huh... well... OK. As good a theory as any. It's not that, it's the gen. pop. of f2p players who refuse to spend. So, help me out... you are saying the Devs made a game that has F2P elements and has no requirement to pay to play, but... it's the F2P players fault that the game is in the state that it's in because they don't pay enough? Genuinely curious as to why you believe that? Not trying to argue... just would like a clear statement as to what your PoV is.
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Post by Garbage game on Sept 15, 2020 11:24:29 GMT -5
You all suck. Those who claim to be free to play while building the flavor of the month meta bot can suck big donkey nuts. You piss and moan about whatever bot is OP yet as soon as its released u build 1 in the workshop. You cant seem to get a job, you cant seem to to support the game, you think being a cheap mofo is somehow related to skill, yet u use lock on weapons. ?fluffernutter?ing posers I hate u all. "Hadurrrrr me f2p but me build ares. Hadurrrrr me f2p now me build ao jun. Stupid mother?fluffernutter?ers The game is p2w cuz u bozos are too ?slow? to pay anything to support the game. ?fluffernutter? f2p. PS if my f2pness (that came out good) was indeed ruining this game I’d ruin it to the ground thank you very much
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Sept 15, 2020 14:06:10 GMT -5
Well... I guess as a moderator I have to *grab popcorn*
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 15, 2020 14:59:04 GMT -5
Should somebody maybe remind OP here that many, if not most, of the current F2P-ers were at one time moderate spenders? And the fact that moderate spending in this game is clearly not enough to make a pimple on a gnat’s ?bum-bum? of a difference, so they (we) just stopped spending altogether? Nah.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 15, 2020 15:35:04 GMT -5
Should somebody maybe remind OP here that many, if not most, of the current F2P-ers were at one time moderate spenders? And the fact that moderate spending in this game is clearly not enough to make a pimple on a gnatâ??s ã??bum-bumã? of a difference, so they (we) just stopped spending altogether? Nah. Some of us didn't just stop spending... but straight up stopped playing.
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F2P made this game. Word of mouth made this game. Not minnows or dolphins or whales.
P2Progress (it's not even P2W, really, it's pay-to-progress-but-still-get-killed-by-someone-who-paid-more) really didn't get a foothold in this game till it was monetized by the minions of fail.fu. I mean, the OG devs, iirc, are behind the company Red Button who makes BoT, and there is very little you can spend RM on in that game that will guarantee a win... if anything.
So, I don't think that there is a single ounce of possibility juice that you can pour into my Garfield Happy Meal glass that could convince me of F2P players being the cause of the ?dookie? game we have now... but again, I'd be willing to at least read the explanation and consider your stance if you post it. The OP doesn't go into enough detail for me to be convinced... personally.
IMO, YMMV
EDIT - I really think this is a troll thread, but... just in case...
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Post by bubblegum on Sept 15, 2020 17:19:14 GMT -5
I may have been a little frustrated with the game while posting this,
HOWEVER! If the majority of actual f2p, ( people that never spend a dime) would have bought a few bot/weapon deals here or there perhaps the game wouldnt be so blatantly p2w as it is now. My 2 cents.
Also fluffnut f2p who complain about meta but use said meta as soon as they can
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Post by bubblegum on Sept 15, 2020 17:20:42 GMT -5
I'm in the rants section right lol
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 15, 2020 17:37:36 GMT -5
I'm in the rants section right lol Yeah, but forgive us if we’re having a bit of difficulty figuring out exactly what you’re ranting about. It makes not one iota of sense.
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Post by Eradicator1 on Sept 15, 2020 19:31:31 GMT -5
As a used to be paying player converted to f2p I am confused. Do I need to place my mouth on said “parts”? Seems at the very least, uh, unclean. And at worst, illegal. ?
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Post by Adazahi on Sept 15, 2020 19:39:40 GMT -5
im sorry amigo but youve been baited
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Post by flounder on Sept 15, 2020 20:36:40 GMT -5
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Sept 15, 2020 21:44:04 GMT -5
Counterpoint:
Actually, I believe F2Players makes War Robots better. Allowing for F2P swells the ranks of cannon fodder for those who are able to rise in ranks by spending money or playing hours upon hours to acquire and upgrade new content. The F2P component opens up the game to new players who may or may not be open to spending large amounts of money, but may be enticed to spend as they reach higher leagues and are forced to loosen the purse strings in order to collect the next shiny bauble before it becomes irrelevant or save themselves from the frustration of continual defeat by opponents in Maxed Meta gear.
Sure some F2Players complain about the Meta, but most complain about PIXO's shady business practices which are also a complaint by many big spenders. This ruins the game by treating players solely as a source of income with little thought to its effect on loyalty or sense of satisfaction gained by playing. You don't have to nerf weapons players have spent hours or dollars on purchasing and upgrading in order to "sell' the new weapons. Create enticing gaming videos using the new content. If it's really worthwhile, it will sell. I like having options on which content to focus my resources, but PIXO aggressively forces players to use or abandon content in a never ending drive to fill the coffers.
After three years of playing, I have quite a bit of Meta content. I don't use most of it because I enjoy the style of bots I've cultivated over the years, but that's my choice. If you want to run the current Meta and feed the bear, that's your choice but don't blame the guy or girl who doesn't fit your narrow view for the destruction of a game that's based on short-term financial gain and not long-term sustainability.
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Post by bubblegum on Sept 15, 2020 22:27:29 GMT -5
Counterpoint: Actually, I believe F2Players makes War Robots better. Allowing for F2P swells the ranks of cannon fodder for those who are able to rise in ranks by spending money or playing hours upon hours to acquire and upgrade new content. The F2P component opens up the game to new players who may or may not be open to spending large amounts of money, but may be enticed to spend as they reach higher leagues and are forced to loosen the purse strings in order to collect the next shiny bauble before it becomes irrelevant or save themselves from the frustration of continual defeat by opponents in Maxed Meta gear. Sure some F2Players complain about the Meta, but most complain about PIXO's shady business practices which are also a complaint by many big spenders. This ruins the game by treating players solely as a source of income with little thought to its effect on loyalty or sense of satisfaction gained by playing. You don't have to nerf weapons players have spent hours or dollars on purchasing and upgrading in order to "sell' the new weapons. Create enticing gaming videos using the new content. If it's really worthwhile, it will sell. I like having options on which content to focus my resources, but PIXO aggressively forces players to use or abandon content in a never ending drive to fill the coffers. After three years of playing, I have quite a bit of Meta content. I don't use most of it because I enjoy the style of bots I've cultivated over the years, but that's my choice. If you want to run the current Meta and feed the bear, that's your choice but don't blame the guy or girl who doesn't fit your narrow view for the destruction of a game that's based on short-term financial gain and not long-term I've played since early release. The game was friendly towards paying players back then, i.e. paying 100$$ for 14k gold to get 3 lancelots but now that's nearly quadrupled. Spend 400 dollars to get a hawk. Sure old school players have thousands of gold and billions of silver to max it out. But new players will have maybe 30 million silver by the time they reach gold league.
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Post by bubblegum on Sept 15, 2020 22:30:38 GMT -5
30 million silver is a level 9-10 upgrade
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Sept 15, 2020 23:33:05 GMT -5
Counterpoint: Actually, I believe F2Players makes War Robots better. Allowing for F2P swells the ranks of cannon fodder for those who are able to rise in ranks by spending money or playing hours upon hours to acquire and upgrade new content. The F2P component opens up the game to new players who may or may not be open to spending large amounts of money, but may be enticed to spend as they reach higher leagues and are forced to loosen the purse strings in order to collect the next shiny bauble before it becomes irrelevant or save themselves from the frustration of continual defeat by opponents in Maxed Meta gear. Sure some F2Players complain about the Meta, but most complain about PIXO's shady business practices which are also a complaint by many big spenders. This ruins the game by treating players solely as a source of income with little thought to its effect on loyalty or sense of satisfaction gained by playing. You don't have to nerf weapons players have spent hours or dollars on purchasing and upgrading in order to "sell' the new weapons. Create enticing gaming videos using the new content. If it's really worthwhile, it will sell. I like having options on which content to focus my resources, but PIXO aggressively forces players to use or abandon content in a never ending drive to fill the coffers. After three years of playing, I have quite a bit of Meta content. I don't use most of it because I enjoy the style of bots I've cultivated over the years, but that's my choice. If you want to run the current Meta and feed the bear, that's your choice but don't blame the guy or girl who doesn't fit your narrow view for the destruction of a game that's based on short-term financial gain and not long-term I've played since early release. The game was friendly towards paying players back then, i.e. paying 100$$ for 14k gold to get 3 lancelots but now that's nearly quadrupled. Spend 400 dollars to get a hawk. Sure old school players have thousands of gold and billions of silver to max it out. But new players will have maybe 30 million silver by the time they reach gold league. Some of the cost increase can be attributed to inflation, but I don't think the prices would be as high if people weren't willing to pay them. If a large number of players weren't willing to pay the ever increasing prices charged by PIXO, they wouldn't be so high. You can out price yourself in economics. If you charge more than the target market is willing to pay, you will be undercut by competitors. Also, each person can decide whether the benefit is worthy of the cost. PIXO isn't reacting to lack of money from F2P by increasing the cost of items. They've been steadily(relatively speaking) increasing cost in order to get the greatest profit in spite of F2P. Example: If you have a swimming pool which is free to residents of your community and you are able to charge non residents to use the pool, would you hate the residents if they brought their friends or told people about this great pool if it increased the number of paying visitors? Would you shut down the pool? If you charge $10 for a pass to enter the pool then wanted to make more revenue, wouldn't you increase the charge until people were unwilling to pay? Would you keep raising the cost until no one visited the pool aside from non residents? No. You would charge as much as you could get away with and still maintain a relatively stable income. I wish I had thousands of gold and billions of silver, but I'm constantly feeding it back into the game to get one maxed hangar. I try to keep a balance between 15-60M Ag, but if I don't rush upgrades I can keep upgrading continually. I could never keep up with the Meta if I tried to max everything, but I'm okay with that. Yeah, War Robots is not friendly towards new players, but why would they need to be if they have players willing to pay their exorbitant prices. If they were interested in longevity of the game, it would be more player friendly. Six years is well past prime for most online games so they're trying to get the biggest profit in the time they have left. I'm not saying the game will go away soon, but I know a lot of paying players who have left and with the game being unfriendly to new players, there's going to be a tipping point.
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