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Post by Desc440 on Aug 6, 2020 6:52:10 GMT -5
「gosh darn 」 it, Pixo! Storm is only effective on Ravana and Scorpion. It is utter crap on all other bots. Can't you leave well enough alone?
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Aug 6, 2020 6:57:54 GMT -5
I dropped mine months ago. Still it's another 「dookie」ty move on a long list of 「dookie」ty moves.
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Post by OU812? on Aug 6, 2020 6:59:40 GMT -5
Good grief. ? I just got a Ravana with Poe last week. Upgraded both; Poe with over 10K in gold. The weapon I was going to use: Storms.
The only silver lining is that I might assume that scourges are safe. Until Pix comes for the scourges.
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Post by Poopface on Aug 6, 2020 7:02:55 GMT -5
?gosh darn ? it, Pixo! Storm is only effective on Ravana and Scorpion. It is utter crap on all other bots. Can't you leave well enough alone?
As much as I hate to see it happen (because I get 2-3 kills/match in my underpowered Scorpion), this could be a bit of an indirect nerf to the Ravana flood we have now. Might not be a horrible thing for gameplay. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 7:14:09 GMT -5
Bwahahaha hahahaha, these guys are something else.
A full two paragraph explanation trying to justify their, just as expected, nerf cycle. Bold face liars. Again. And again. And again. And again.
What a bunch of morons.
Buff ——>Player base buys/uses——->nerf———>release new gear———>buff———>player base buys/uses———-Nerf———->etc.
Stop upgrading cryo’s immediately. They are next. Get your laser hose gameplay in while you can. 2nd on the list.
Reasoning. You dumb. You all bought and leveled. Weapons work well. We can’t have that. Laser hose too good with Hawk.
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Post by TheFiend on Aug 6, 2020 7:22:19 GMT -5
?gosh darn ? it, Pixo! Storm is only effective on Ravana and Scorpion. It is utter crap on all other bots. Can't you leave well enough alone?
I love the way they advertise their customer satisfaction rating below his message! Says it all! Just incase any morons from Pixonic are reading this, it means you guys really suck!...R_E_A_L_L_Y__S_U_C_K_! Lol |
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Aug 6, 2020 7:27:44 GMT -5
How many of you run Ravana storm & how many do you face in every single match you’re in? Come on, this was coming. Plus, they’re still going be deadly. But everyone go ahead and over react...
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Post by hi5 on Aug 6, 2020 7:48:46 GMT -5
This may be an unpopular opinion but is needed. Storm and Ravana synced up too well, especially with the bug where you can fire right on the edge (or before) you come out of golden turd mode and empty a full clip in a flash.
I mean storms are cheap, better than all other weapons on Ravana (which are now 2-3 per hangar in some cases), and many already had them from the leech days. The writing was on the wall for a nerf.
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Post by Desc440 on Aug 6, 2020 8:14:59 GMT -5
So with the Storm nerfed by 15%, Coronas would do almost exactly the same damage but would also have lockdown. If players migrate to Coronas on their Scorps and Ravs, is Pixo going to nerf Coronas AGAIN too?
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Post by Desc440 on Aug 6, 2020 8:16:47 GMT -5
This may be an unpopular opinion but is needed. Storm and Ravana synced up too well, especially with the bug where you can fire right on the edge (or before) you come out of golden turd mode and empty a full clip in a flash. I mean storms are cheap, better than all other weapons on Ravana (which are now 2-3 per hangar in some cases), and many already had them from the leech days. The writing was on the wall for a nerf. They should nerf Ravana then, not Storms. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 8:17:44 GMT -5
How many of you run Ravana storm & how many do you face in every single match youâre in? Come on, this was coming. Plus, theyâre still going be deadly. But everyone go ahead and over react... Never used it once (okay 1 match when first introduced) Garbage 「meow」 bot. Only bot I use my 2 leveled storms on is Nightingale with gust, and itâs a nice little combo. Shelved it .... The idea of the Ravana itself bothers me, but dispatching 2-3 a game with Quarker Blitz is just too easy. Unless they team up, then itâs not fun. My issues is the constant lies, and cycles that are clearly to push other content and get us all to waste time and silver. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 8:19:00 GMT -5
This may be an unpopular opinion but is needed. Storm and Ravana synced up too well, especially with the bug where you can fire right on the edge (or before) you come out of golden turd mode and empty a full clip in a flash. I mean storms are cheap, better than all other weapons on Ravana (which are now 2-3 per hangar in some cases), and many already had them from the leech days. The writing was on the wall for a nerf. They should nerf Ravana then, not Storms. Exactly, you don’t nerf a weapon because it’s good on one or two bots. It’s a bold face lie that they had planned anyway. |
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Post by Flaminius on Aug 6, 2020 8:20:21 GMT -5
This may be an unpopular opinion but is needed. Storm and Ravana synced up too well, especially with the bug where you can fire right on the edge (or before) you come out of golden turd mode and empty a full clip in a flash. I mean storms are cheap, better than all other weapons on Ravana (which are now 2-3 per hangar in some cases), and many already had them from the leech days. The writing was on the wall for a nerf. Yeah, Storm Ravana is too strong. Maybe they could just delete the trash bot and leave my Storm Rogatka alone? |
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Post by Munki on Aug 6, 2020 8:22:19 GMT -5
So with the Storm nerfed by 15%, Coronas would do almost exactly the same damage but would also have lockdown. If players migrate to Coronas on their Scorps and Ravs, is Pixo going to nerf Coronas AGAIN too? This one is easy. YES, OH YES they will. |
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Post by Munki on Aug 6, 2020 8:23:08 GMT -5
This may be an unpopular opinion but is needed. Storm and Ravana synced up too well, especially with the bug where you can fire right on the edge (or before) you come out of golden turd mode and empty a full clip in a flash. I mean storms are cheap, better than all other weapons on Ravana (which are now 2-3 per hangar in some cases), and many already had them from the leech days. The writing was on the wall for a nerf. They should nerf Ravana then, not Storms. You mean the robot they BUFFED because it did not sell well in the beginning? |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Aug 6, 2020 8:26:49 GMT -5
This may be an unpopular opinion but is needed. Storm and Ravana synced up too well, especially with the bug where you can fire right on the edge (or before) you come out of golden turd mode and empty a full clip in a flash. I mean storms are cheap, better than all other weapons on Ravana (which are now 2-3 per hangar in some cases), and many already had them from the leech days. The writing was on the wall for a nerf. Sort of an outside observer nowadays, but I'd say the reason that so many don't agree that it might actually be a needed nerf is A) they keep nerfing the F2P (or long time player held pre-current META) weapons that can compete with the newer, costlier weapons, and B) once again it's the newer, OP bots that make the weapons standout... nerfing the bots just seems the more appropriate path for those that don't like the way that "chasing the carrot" has become Pixo's game philosophy.
But it really is pointless... Pixo gonna Pixxo.
IMO, YMMV
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Post by Flaminius on Aug 6, 2020 8:27:02 GMT -5
So with the Storm nerfed by 15%, Coronas would do almost exactly the same damage but would also have lockdown. If players migrate to Coronas on their Scorps and Ravs, is Pixo going to nerf Coronas AGAIN too? No, no, no. Cryos are frequently available in the offers. If Pixonic are good enough to go to all that effort, the least we can do is buy them for all of our bots. |
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Post by Munki on Aug 6, 2020 8:30:17 GMT -5
Storm was "rebalanced" to be exactly how it is now. How on Earth was that rebalance not tested well? Throwing spaghetti on a wall seems to be how the rebalances are done these days. They took away many shots in the clip, lengthened the time between shots once unloaded but sped up initial unload and gave a 10% damage boost. Now they are going down damage wise 15%, so I guess around a 5% nerf to the original Storm damage. So at this point it will have a rapid fire mode initially but all other aspects will have been nerfed.
More and more tempted to go with just Molots, Punishers, and Magnums. F Pix. Seriously.
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Aug 6, 2020 8:32:07 GMT -5
There’s already heavy cryo usage. What is this change pushing players to use? Don’t tell me atomizer as they are completely different. This is a rebalancing attempt and honestly it’s not enough of a proposed change tbh. A maxed storm Ravana outputs 240k of damage on full load. This drops it to 208k. This is without boost, pilot skills or mods. Sometimes it’s actual about trying to get balance
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Post by Munki on Aug 6, 2020 8:40:22 GMT -5
There’s already heavy cryo usage. What is this change pushing players to use? Don’t tell me atomizer as they are completely different. This is a rebalancing attempt and honestly it’s not enough of a proposed change tbh. A maxed storm Ravana outputs 240k of damage on full load. This drops it to 208k. This is without boost, pilot skills or mods. Sometimes it’s actual about trying to get balance I would LOVE to be in the meetings were the Pix people discuss these changes. I'd bet the finance guys come in with their metrics and challenge the dev team to meet new sales goals on newer equipment. I agree Ravanas and Storms on them have made overall game play kind of boring. However, I felt Pix was okay when releasing new bots and weapons that offer good counters to existing equipment just like in the real world. Tech has always affected how war and the battlefield look. But there is no real world equivalent to existing equipment just getting worse against everything else. It is just LAZY on the part of PIX to do this. Shows a bad team with bad faith in their development. This all stinks of a company solely focused on cash grabbing. I feel sorry for the devs quite frankly as they are seeing a title they worked so hard on go to POOP because the business end cannot get their heads out of, well whereever Poopface avatar's face is! |
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Post by OU812? on Aug 6, 2020 8:42:20 GMT -5
Evidently, not enough Storm-Ravana users were paying out for the Sharpshooter pilot-skill.
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Post by Munki on Aug 6, 2020 8:45:55 GMT -5
Evidently, not enough Storm-Ravana users were paying out for the Sharpshooter pilot-skill. OMG I have one skill slot open on my Poe. Have been considering getting the Sharpshooter but was not sure how important it was given this is not easy to test on my own. Since it was the last slot, I would most likely had to shell out for the specific skill then level the Tiers. Very expensive in Au. So I feel rewarded by not spending. Guess that is the real lesson Pixonic is teaching me. DO NOT GIVE US MONEY FOR ANYTHING. Seems strange but I am slowly learning. |
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Aug 6, 2020 8:47:56 GMT -5
There’s already heavy cryo usage. What is this change pushing players to use? Don’t tell me atomizer as they are completely different. This is a rebalancing attempt and honestly it’s not enough of a proposed change tbh. A maxed storm Ravana outputs 240k of damage on full load. This drops it to 208k. This is without boost, pilot skills or mods. Sometimes it’s actual about trying to get balance I would LOVE to be in the meetings were the Pix people discuss these changes. I'd bet the finance guys come in with their metrics and challenge the dev team to meet new sales goals on newer equipment. I agree Ravanas and Storms on them have made overall game play kind of boring. However, I felt Pix was okay when releasing new bots and weapons that offer good counters to existing equipment just like in the real world. Tech has always affected how war and the battlefield look. But there is no real world equivalent to existing equipment just getting worse against everything else. It is just LAZY on the part of PIX to do this. Shows a bad team with bad faith in their development. This all stinks of a company solely focused on cash grabbing. I feel sorry for the devs quite frankly as they are seeing a title they worked so hard on go to POOP because the business end cannot get their heads out of, well whereever Poopface avatar's face is! But again, what is the finance guy trying to push here? If that’s the argument |
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Post by Munki on Aug 6, 2020 8:50:06 GMT -5
I would feel significantly different if Pix created a special market that would buy our equipment that was recently "rebalanced". It would give a significant percentage of the Ag spent back into the player's coffers. Somewhere in the range of 50% to 70%. I bet most would be okay with the rebalances then since at least we would have the Ag to put into new stuff. We would still need to upgrade the new stuff and Pix could make $ on Au spent for upgrade speed-ups.
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Post by Munki on Aug 6, 2020 8:55:01 GMT -5
I would LOVE to be in the meetings were the Pix people discuss these changes. I'd bet the finance guys come in with their metrics and challenge the dev team to meet new sales goals on newer equipment. I agree Ravanas and Storms on them have made overall game play kind of boring. However, I felt Pix was okay when releasing new bots and weapons that offer good counters to existing equipment just like in the real world. Tech has always affected how war and the battlefield look. But there is no real world equivalent to existing equipment just getting worse against everything else. It is just LAZY on the part of PIX to do this. Shows a bad team with bad faith in their development. This all stinks of a company solely focused on cash grabbing. I feel sorry for the devs quite frankly as they are seeing a title they worked so hard on go to POOP because the business end cannot get their heads out of, well whereever Poopface avatar's face is! But again, what is the finance guy trying to push here? If that’s the argument Greater average revenue per user per month? Probably something like that. I do not have their metrics to know for sure. I do not have an account on this website, but War Robots is making about $51,000 per day. They most likely have to meet internal earnings for bonuses and other things. But someone has the power to push these changes through. It is easier to nerf existing stuff than to craft new equipment to be balanced against all existing equipment initially. If you go to that site and look at the top grossing games, Pokemon GO is on top and WOW, they make a lot; over $2.5 million per day! You know Pixonic sees those numbers and want to get closer to that figure. |
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Post by OU812? on Aug 6, 2020 8:57:28 GMT -5
Evidently, not enough Storm-Ravana users were paying out for the Sharpshooter pilot-skill. OMG I have one skill slot open on my Poe. Have been considering getting the Sharpshooter but was not sure how important it was given this is not easy to test on my own. Since it was the last slot, I would most likely had to shell out for the specific skill then level the Tiers. Very expensive in Au. So I feel rewarded by not spending. Guess that is the real lesson Pixonic is teaching me. DO NOT GIVE US MONEY FOR ANYTHING. Seems strange but I am slowly learning. Totally agree. Two steps back, one step forward. There are ways that the pilot skills are a racket. You can invest Gold in useful pilot skills for a bot/weapon only to see those advantages easily nerfed away. I finally got my Ravana lvl’d up to playable last week, acquired Poe in the training center and invested about 10k Au in pilot skills. The Ravana is armed with storms. Now this nerf is coming. As many players have said, this won’t nerf the shotgun Ravana to oblivion, but it’s still remarkably irritating. Pix really needs to look up the meaning of exasperation. |
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Aug 6, 2020 9:02:25 GMT -5
I understand all of that, but what I’m saying is this particular change dose not fall into that category because it’s not really forcing change to anything new. The proposed change isn’t going to render the weapon useless. It’s just taking it down a notch and it seems necessary. I’m saying this with a storm Ravana and gale in my hangar
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Post by mammoth on Aug 6, 2020 9:27:24 GMT -5
Their plan to legally nerf it is working perfectly. They will use all kind of valid excuses when the real intentions are just making money. Don't forget fire weapons are getting nerfed too. They are pushing the energy weapon to the max.
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Aug 6, 2020 9:40:50 GMT -5
There’s no flame nerf
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Post by mechtout on Aug 6, 2020 10:04:22 GMT -5
I understand all of that, but what I’m saying is this particular change dose not fall into that category because it’s not really forcing change to anything new. The proposed change isn’t going to render the weapon useless. It’s just taking it down a notch and it seems necessary. I’m saying this with a storm Ravana and gale in my hangar imo if Ravana owners move away from the storm after this, it will definitely be useless to normal bots. its all about selling the next weapon |
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