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Post by kamikazejohnson on Jul 28, 2020 19:43:55 GMT -5
a support robot, like when I send out Behemoth, with 4 zenit racks, Lvl 11's. Cant run worth a crap, dont have any other weapons. And of course, the reds focus on me, because we all know how firetrucking ( language filter ) irritating Behemoth with all zenits can be. Yes, I frequently take a lower score, so I can provide heavy rocket fire. Can't get beacons, and so on till Behemoth gets killed and I can send in Ares or Leech. Do these guys give a firetrucking ( language filter ) Goddang (language filter ) ship ( language filter ) about giving me any cover when I have two or three coming in heavy? Nope. Alot of the time, even if they would just turn around and fire half a clip in my direction, it would easily take care of things. Too pre occupied, regardless of the heavy rocket barrage I've been giving them. Greedy, clueless, blue team mates. No, not in a clan, invited to several, no one ever seemed to be online playing, so I keep leaving them. Need a Blue clan that maybe has its mudder-fudding- ship ( language filter, language filter, language filter ) together. Maybe that even works together, like the REDS do, which of course is why they typically win. Just impossible to get any cooperation, or coordination... SORRY< maybe should be in RANTS, apologies. Simple...Artillery builds are the most despised teammates in the game, ESPECIALLY as first drop. Granted, Zenit Behemoth with the long-range Legendary Pilot is the only Zenit build that might come close to usefulness, but I guarantee you, if Friendly Fire were a thing in this game, your own teammates would get you into that Ares or Leech in record time. I'll admit, in the case of Behemoth, or even Fury, that's a bit unfair...those builds an be a huge assist in the mid-game, particularly vs Titans. Just don't drop it as your first Bot. You're teammates aren't oblivious...they let the Reds kill you on purpose. |
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Post by garyinexcess on Jul 28, 2020 19:47:56 GMT -5
Holy crap, I think you're right. Thanks
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Post by garyinexcess on Jul 28, 2020 19:49:05 GMT -5
scratch that, you are right.
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Post by mechtout on Jul 28, 2020 20:01:59 GMT -5
yup, look around after you drop that behemoth at the beginning of the match, you should see your fellow blues looking at you, might even shake their head at you or shoot you.
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Post by balrog89 on Jul 28, 2020 20:03:33 GMT -5
This game does not simulate real warfare. Artillery is basically useless at all stages of the game, especially the higher you rise. Behemoths, of any build or load out, are a big bag of silver for me. I will kill them as soon as I can. I do not want anyone else to get such an easy kill. If the Behemoth, of any build or load out, is a blue, I will not protect it at all. It is a waste of a bot during any stage of the game.
This is a beacon control game. Nothing more and nothing less. There is a thread on the forum right this very minute that explains passive play and how passive play is detrimental to winning the game.
Bottom line however, this is YOUR game. You play it as you see fit. Just know that you will not be loved by your team. If you really want to play a Behemoth, put 4 Avengers, 4 Redeamers, 4 Glaciers or even 4 Vipers on it, march it straight for the nearest contested beacon, and use it to kill as many reds as you can before you die. That helps the team win infinately more than any artillery build will.
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Post by kdsteph3530 on Jul 28, 2020 20:39:01 GMT -5
as a side note to this, I reject anyone who applies to my clan if they run even a single zenit, noricum, hydra, or flux in their hangars.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jul 28, 2020 20:41:23 GMT -5
I guess it also depends what league you are in but when I drop into a fresh game and the first thing I hear is that dreadful sound of flying marshmallows hurtling through the air from one of my team mates, I will most likely just bail.
I know we will be over run buy Ravana/Leech/Phantom/Ao Jun within seconds.
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Post by ʂωєєтცяєα∂ on Jul 28, 2020 20:54:35 GMT -5
If you’re playing BR, drop a fast bot first and go for a beacon. Drop that Zenith setup later game to suppress attack reds if as needed.
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Post by S1E1 on Jul 28, 2020 20:55:37 GMT -5
I actually avoid shooting reds running Zenits. The longer they are in that bot the less they are helping their own team. I have however shot some of my blue teammates for camping :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 21:29:26 GMT -5
My number one priority in ANY situation is to deal to Behemoths, including any on my team. My favourite move is to park my Ming in front of it and back it into a wall, over the edge into a river, whatever, just annoy and get rid of the stupid thing. Why? Because artillery is camping, and camping is for losers! And like another poster has said, put an artillery or rocket build in your hanger and I’ll boot you from the clan.
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Post by foxypotato on Jul 28, 2020 21:55:41 GMT -5
I like to watch.
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Post by frunobulax on Jul 29, 2020 3:05:26 GMT -5
a support robot, like when I send out Behemoth, with 4 zenit racks, Lvl 11's. Whenever I see a blue Zenit build I wish to have friendly fire. I would kill the idiot on the spot and force the player to jump into something reasonable.
I'm often in duo games where lose while me and my teammate get twice the beacons of our 4 blueberries won't even defend the beacons we get, let alone get new beacons. Beacons win games. Players like you frustrate the hell out of your teammates.
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Post by frunobulax on Jul 29, 2020 3:09:13 GMT -5
My number one priority in ANY situation is to deal to Behemoths, including any on my team. My favourite move is to park my Ming in front of it and back it into a wall, over the edge into a river, whatever, just annoy and get rid of the stupid thing. Why? Because artillery is camping, and camping is for losers! And like another poster has said, put an artillery or rocket build in your hanger and I’ll boot you from the clan. The point is, artillery is completely useless. The smart players know how to avoid it, so your teammates are short one player to fight for beacons. I can avoid artillery even in a Griffin or Natty.
Artillery does a little damage in low leagues where you're fighting Natashas that don't know how to play. As you progress through leagues it becomes completely obsolete.
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Post by frunobulax on Jul 29, 2020 3:10:16 GMT -5
If you’re playing BR, drop a fast bot first and go for a beacon. Drop that Zenith setup later game to suppress reds if needed. You can suppress with long range builds like Trebuchet or Molot. You can't suppress with something that never hits. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 3:14:14 GMT -5
My number one priority in ANY situation is to deal to Behemoths, including any on my team. My favourite move is to park my Ming in front of it and back it into a wall, over the edge into a river, whatever, just annoy and get rid of the stupid thing. Why? Because artillery is camping, and camping is for losers! And like another poster has said, put an artillery or rocket build in your hanger and I’ll boot you from the clan. The point is, artillery is completely useless. The smart players know how to avoid it, so your teammates are short one player to fight for beacons. I can avoid artillery even in a Griffin or Natty.
Artillery does a little damage in low leagues where you're fighting Natashas that don't know how to play. As you progress through leagues it becomes completely obsolete.
I agree absolutely, and it makes strategic sense to let them live and waste their own time, but sometimes it’s just fun to kick a blue Behemoth off the top of Yam down into the snow below  |
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Post by frunobulax on Jul 29, 2020 3:24:04 GMT -5
The point is, artillery is completely useless. The smart players know how to avoid it, so your teammates are short one player to fight for beacons. I can avoid artillery even in a Griffin or Natty.
Artillery does a little damage in low leagues where you're fighting Natashas that don't know how to play. As you progress through leagues it becomes completely obsolete.
I agree absolutely, and it makes strategic sense to let them live and waste their own time, but sometimes it’s just fun to kick a blue Behemoth off the top of Yam down into the snow below I guess a high level spider could push a Behemoth too... Nothing to grab and push a bot like spider legs. But even on Carrier it's a long way to the water, as you can't push someone into water from the home platform. Best bet may be Factory now, as you can push it into acid  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 4:49:43 GMT -5
Play what you want, it’s your game. But ....
The best you can hope for is to trigger some BB’s, maybe even cause a player panicked PS or ability usage here and there, but your not helping your team a ton with this build.
Like others have said try a fast/support bot as a first drop in BR/DOM, or stick to TDM.
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Post by bravex on Jul 29, 2020 6:15:32 GMT -5
If I see a long range build on my team getting harassed I will put aside my personal feelings and defend them but I'm not camping with you to babysit you for the entire match. There are beacons to cap!
Back in day I used to run a Treb Butch. I would spend EXACTLY two minutes trying to thin out the herd of reds but then I would ditch it for my close range bots. I hope OP does this. He has some useful bots that could really help the team. At least he doesnt have an entire hangar of Behemoth and Fury
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 6:27:38 GMT -5
I agree absolutely, and it makes strategic sense to let them live and waste their own time, but sometimes it’s just fun to kick a blue Behemoth off the top of Yam down into the snow below I guess a high level spider could push a Behemoth too... Nothing to grab and push a bot like spider legs. But even on Carrier it's a long way to the water, as you can't push someone into water from the home platform. Best bet may be Factory now, as you can push it into acid Sadly my ones went to scrap a long time ago, but Griffins used to be pretty good for kicking campers into the sea |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jul 29, 2020 7:32:03 GMT -5
a support robot, like when I send out Behemoth, ... Goofy- as- all- ?cotton headed ninny muggins?-ly-pears ( language filter ) This cracked me up. Thanks. I feel your pain. Sincerely. My most beloved bot is my Chimera/Noricum Natasha. A support bot par excellence. It used to be wonderful at times for TDM. Poop for any beacon game. Today, I've even stated in another thread how much I love artillery, but to avoid Zenits all you have to do is walk toward them or away from them. When I found this out I no longer feared them, at all. In beacon games that I'm in lately, guided missiles and artillery are a liability for the reds and I don't like this one bit. Artillery should be part of the battlefield toolbox not a liability for the home team. |
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Post by AVC on Jul 29, 2020 7:43:03 GMT -5
as a side note to this, I reject anyone who applies to my clan if they run even a single zenit, noricum, hydra, or flux in their hangars. Hey, can I join your clan? I can get waaay over 100K damage in a single game!  |
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Post by CrownBlack on Jul 29, 2020 7:47:12 GMT -5
When I see guys first drop anything with Zenits, Trebs or Noricums I automatically assume a loss is on the way because basically it is 6 on 5 at that point. I get it if the bot is in the hangar for mid range etc just don't drop it first.
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Post by Loganspawn on Jul 29, 2020 8:37:33 GMT -5
If I see a long range build on my team getting harassed I will put aside my personal feelings and defend them but I'm not camping with you to babysit you for the entire match. There are beacons to cap! Back in day I used to run a Treb Butch. I would spend EXACTLY two minutes trying to thin out the herd of reds but then I would ditch it for my close range bots. I hope OP does this. He has some useful bots that could really help the team. At least he doesnt have an entire hangar of Behemoth and Fury The days of Butch Trebs, Fury Tridents, Flux and Tempest are long past sad to say, those were some fun times. I loved the one hit Treb kills at 1000 meters bwaaaaa. |
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 29, 2020 8:51:34 GMT -5
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Post by spectre729 on Jul 29, 2020 8:51:54 GMT -5
i see zenits and noricum users as a free kill
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Post by ʂωєєтცяєα∂ on Jul 29, 2020 9:38:06 GMT -5
If you’re playing BR, drop a fast bot first and go for a beacon. Drop that Zenith setup later game to suppress reds if needed. You can suppress with long range builds like Trebuchet or Molot. You can't suppress with something that never hits. (You don't think I know that? I was just being nice.  )
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Post by kdsteph3530 on Jul 29, 2020 13:59:14 GMT -5
as a side note to this, I reject anyone who applies to my clan if they run even a single zenit, noricum, hydra, or flux in their hangars. Hey, can I join your clan? I can get waaay over 100K damage in a single game! do you have android  what league are you in lol |
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Post by I pooped today on Jul 29, 2020 14:19:40 GMT -5
When blue drops with those I run to the other side of the map and let the reds have dinner. The sooner that bot is gone the better.
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Post by eluray on Jul 29, 2020 15:25:56 GMT -5
Cover and protect a Zenit Bot? muhahaha
If you still in this bot when i dropp my Arthur i will go out of my way just to take you with me
all the way to front line
A complaining Zenit user, usually its the other way around
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Post by Jeb on Jul 30, 2020 8:31:22 GMT -5
My son's got a Butch with Mk2 Zenits and Mk2 Thunders. I think he usually drops it second and works on dropping fire on low-health reds in cover until someone gets close enough to shoot back, and then switches to those close-spaced Thunders and starts punching. He's been running it forever even though he's got some meta bots too. He swears it works and he's been in Champs almost as long as I have, so I just encourage him to keep leveling it up.
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what league are you in lol
