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Post by Browncoats4ever on Jul 3, 2020 22:19:14 GMT -5
I'm beginning the long road to maxing my weapons. I'm debating between keeping my Corona/Halo or moving towards Cryo/Rime. Which is better now? I seem to get killed by Cryo weapons in my Phantom lately. Will maxing the current weapons work or should I change? I don't want to waste resources on Corona if the Cryo will be better. Plus, I need to roll for the extra skill for Olga.
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Post by Heishiro on Jul 3, 2020 22:25:58 GMT -5
Im using corona/halo before but nerf killed that setup. Im running full freeze now and im happy.. waiting for the nerf LOL
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Post by mechtout on Jul 4, 2020 0:54:57 GMT -5
I've been using taser which works well, especially vs other phantoms running like chickens. Cryos were a good set up too, just doesn't use the full span of the ability since they run out so quickly
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Post by hicycles on Jul 4, 2020 1:03:27 GMT -5
I've been using taser which works well, especially vs other phantoms running like chickens. Cryos were a good set up too, just doesn't use the full span of the ability since they run out so quickly I concur with mechtout. I switched from storm/halo, to cryo/rime, to scourge/spark. The taser build is best, so far. I've heard that flamethrowers work well, too.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Jul 4, 2020 1:19:04 GMT -5
I've been using taser which works well, especially vs other phantoms running like chickens. Cryos were a good set up too, just doesn't use the full span of the ability since they run out so quickly Of course, Scourge and Spark have increased in cost in purchasing, as well as leveling cost and time. And I have Scourge on Fenrir and Hover already.
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Post by bahogilok on Jul 4, 2020 1:44:55 GMT -5
Might be a bit late to jump on the cryo bandwagon, as the atomizer class buff might be followed by a cryo nerf. Scourges seem to be doing very well these days, and might not be nerfed in the near future
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Post by hicycles on Jul 4, 2020 3:17:29 GMT -5
I've been using taser which works well, especially vs other phantoms running like chickens. Cryos were a good set up too, just doesn't use the full span of the ability since they run out so quickly Of course, Scourge and Spark have increased in cost in purchasing, as well as leveling cost and time. And I have Scourge on Fenrir and Hover already. That would be a lot of tasers in your hangar. I'd say go cryo. Or maybe shredder/atomizer? Ooo. I should try this tomorrow.
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Post by cheap on Jul 4, 2020 5:14:01 GMT -5
thought this was about Winning Arena Phantom. Holy 「dookie」! the Cost to Win One is 「fluffernutter」in Crazy!
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Post by bahogilok on Jul 4, 2020 6:24:29 GMT -5
thought this was about Winning Arena Phantom. Holy ?dookie?! the Cost to Win One is ?fluffernutter?in Crazy! think of the stellar phantom as a bonus, many of us would need to farm arena for a while in order to keep up with the pilot rework. I'm pretty happy I leveled a second strider pilot with 4 skill slots since I was planning to get a second one. Getting one from scratch now would be very expensive unfortunately.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Jul 4, 2020 6:33:39 GMT -5
thought this was about Winning Arena Phantom. Holy ?dookie?! the Cost to Win One is ?fluffernutter?in Crazy! think of the stellar phantom as a bonus, many of us would need to farm arena for a while in order to keep up with the pilot rework. I'm pretty happy I leveled a second strider pilot with 4 skill slots since I was planning to get a second one. Getting one from scratch now would be very expensive unfortunately. You could win one from the SC from this month!
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jul 4, 2020 7:05:35 GMT -5
Browncoats4ever: Sir, if you can grind out the cost of tasers try to go for it. One of the problems with Phantom/Freeze is that you "must" evacuate after you do your burst damage. With Phantom/Taser (Phantaser?) it hurts to reload for 5 seconds but once you do, you are back to full zap power. Therefore, the Taser build is better at holding beacons, IMHO. YMMV. :-)
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Post by Overlordship on Jul 4, 2020 7:15:33 GMT -5
Might be a bit late to jump on the cryo bandwagon, as the atomizer class buff might be followed by a cryo nerf. Scourges seem to be doing very well these days, and might not be nerfed in the near future Ughhhhhhh. Really? I just finished leveling up my Cryo / Rime combo for Phantom.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jul 4, 2020 7:40:05 GMT -5
Ughhhhhhh. Really? I just finished leveling up my Cryo / Rime combo for Phantom. IMHO, Don't fret yet. Use your new weapons, wreak havoc with them and IF they nerf them too much you can build something else. Don't proactively build something else as that could just wind up with you chasing your Ag tail. For example, I still have Avengers on my Ao Jun. No, it's not my go-to first drop bot anymore, but I'm trying to not be a full-time resident of the Meta Hamster Wheel anymore.
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Post by snk on Jul 4, 2020 9:16:37 GMT -5
Don't waste your resources on Corona/Halo, they are garbage, runout of ammo in 3 secs won't kill 95% of the bots. If you really want burst damage and freeze effect, go Cyro/Rime. If you want good constant dps go Igniter/Blaze or Scourge/Spark. The new Atomisir may be a good choice too if you have them.
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Post by hicycles on Jul 4, 2020 14:41:17 GMT -5
I gave shredder/atomizer a go this morning. Not a bad build, but you have to hit the majority of shots to get a lockdown. Damage is not bad, either. The nice thing with Shredders is that it's a tier 3 weapon.
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Post by Mig-Am on Jul 4, 2020 17:06:50 GMT -5
I was about to say tazers but I would not suggest to build a third bot around this class of weapons. Also hint : many people using tazers, some similarities with the Atomizer family (good weapons when moving in), so my guess is tazers will get nerfed when Pix realise most of us are too broke to level up Atomizers and all after these get buffed, and that will come months before freeze rockets get nerfed.
In your situation I would go all flames, or Atomizer + Schredders (or Quacks), depending on what you have avaible, and if you have none of that I would go freeze rockets.
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Post by deviant on Jul 4, 2020 18:21:54 GMT -5
For a mixed option, try igniter and rimes. The freeze effect helps to aim the igniter.
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Post by ᥣᵃᵛᵃʲᵃᵛᵃ on Jul 5, 2020 5:52:22 GMT -5
For a mixed option, try igniter and rimes. The freeze effect helps to aim the igniter. I've been running this set up for a while now. Very effective as the Rimes turn reds to a slow popsicle allowing the flames to light em up. And, flames recharge in 5s, same as tasers. Recommend.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jul 6, 2020 7:10:50 GMT -5
...when Pix realise most of us are too broke to level up Atomizers... THIS! If they nerf Tasers, I'm gonna have to rethink things. As it is I'm still fuming about the Halo nerf. Pix keeps giving me sharts for the Atomizer class weapons. I'm so non-interested in leveling them. If I was new, sure, but I've got other leveled weapons that I've shelved/sold. I'm not dumping my tasers.
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Post by Mig-Am on Jul 6, 2020 7:24:36 GMT -5
...when Pix realise most of us are too broke to level up Atomizers... THIS! If they nerf Tasers, I'm gonna have to rethink things. As it is I'm still fuming about the Halo nerf. Pix keeps giving me sharts for the Atomizer class weapons. I'm so non-interested in leveling them. If I was new, sure, but I've got other leveled weapons that I've shelved/sold. I'm not dumping my tasers. I would only like to point out that flamethrowers are currently useless since 6.2 (damage don't register most of the time, add lag on top), and Scorpion is somewhat of an indirect nerf to Tazers (lock on dekay), so the way things are now the Atomizer class of weapons look good. We'll have to see what gets fixed or not. My Phantom is now Schreeders + ??, might try Punishers-T (but I don't like long reloads). I have one unleveled Atomizer, still hoping to put my Ag elswere.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jul 6, 2020 7:50:41 GMT -5
My Phantom is now Schreeders + ??, might try Punishers-T (but I don't like long reloads). I have one unleveled Atomizer, still hoping to put my Ag elswere. The short reload of the shredders plus the cheap-butt price of the Pun-Ts mean that the Pun-T may not be the worst thing that you could do. There's always a better (aka more expensive) weapon out there.
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Post by Poopface on Jul 6, 2020 8:06:42 GMT -5
I'm currently running Scourge/Magnum on mine. Not great. Not bursty enough leaving me to get beat on.
I'm working on putting together a Blaze/Igniter setup as a replacement.
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 6, 2020 9:44:24 GMT -5
I'm running rockets on both my Phantoms. One is full freeze and the other has an Orkan on top. I really don't see much difference in these two builds. My Cryo is L9 and my Orkan is L10 and both Phantoms play identically. So, if you don't have a Cryo leveled, you can sub in an Orkan (since most of us probably have these shelved at decent levels) and still have an effective build. I find that with the rockets, Olga is not as necessary as with Taser setup. This is because I run out of ammo so fast that I rarely stay in a hot zone for very long. As soon as I run out of rockets or take too much damage from multiple reds, I blink back. If you go Taser, then I strongly suggest Olga for those extra precious seconds of DR.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Jul 6, 2020 10:06:40 GMT -5
I'm running rockets on both my Phantoms. One is full freeze and the other has an Orkan on top. I really don't see much difference in these two builds. My Cryo is L9 and my Orkan is L10 and both Phantoms play identically. So, if you don't have a Cryo leveled, you can sub in an Orkan (since most of us probably have these shelved at decent levels) and still have an effective build. I find that with the rockets, Olga is not as necessary as with Taser setup. This is because I run out of ammo so fast that I rarely stay in a hot zone for very long. As soon as I run out of rockets or take too much damage from multiple reds, I blink back. If you go Taser, then I strongly suggest Olga for those extra precious seconds of DR. I've had her for a while so no worries there.
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Post by Desc440 on Jul 9, 2020 21:39:22 GMT -5
Just a thought but have you considered running tasers on your Phanny and putting something else on your Hover instead? Pulsars/Hussars and Marquess, for example.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Jul 9, 2020 21:57:09 GMT -5
Just a thought but have you considered running tasers on your Phanny and putting something else on your Hover instead? Pulsars/Hussars and Marquess, for example. I have a second Hover with Wasp/Spark which will be leveled in a week or so. I've decided to try a number of builds and see which suits me best. I'll be finishing my second Rime today so the Cryo/Rime Phantom is possible, I can pull a Scourge from my Fenny to run Scourge/Spark Phantom and I have my Blaze/Igniter build possible so it's just going to take some time to level them. I'm closer to getting the Scourge/Spark build finished, so I'll try that one first. I appreciate all the good advice. I was kind of impatient to reroll for the changed skills on my Phantom, but with the increased cost, I can't afford it anyway. I'll just wait until I settle on the 'perfect' build. Funny thing: in he interim between the start of this thread and now, my current Corona/Halo build has been doing pretty well but there's always room for improvement.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Jul 31, 2020 2:32:25 GMT -5
After the Shotgun nerf, I traded my Storm for a Corona I took off my Leech. It didn’t do too bad. I had to build some Cryo weapons. Since I had no Cryo or Rime, it took some time. I finally leveled them and I’ll be running them from now. After I level my second Spark, I’ll test Scourge/Spark.
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Post by frunobulax on Aug 1, 2020 2:54:13 GMT -5
Another vote for Scourge/Spark. With the high DR of a well levelled Phantom, it has enough time to use the high sustained damage. Atomizer/Quarker would be another option that should be even better at close range.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Aug 1, 2020 3:55:54 GMT -5
Another vote for Scourge/Spark. With the high DR of a well levelled Phantom, it has enough time to use the high sustained damage. Atomizer/Quarker would be another option that should be even better at close range. Unfortunately, I only have half a Quarker and who knows when that'll be added to the WS.
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Post by frunobulax on Aug 1, 2020 6:31:32 GMT -5
Another vote for Scourge/Spark. With the high DR of a well levelled Phantom, it has enough time to use the high sustained damage. Atomizer/Quarker would be another option that should be even better at close range. Unfortunately, I only have half a Quarker and who knows when that'll be added to the WS. If we have continuous events now, you should be able to add to that I've seen some Atomizer/Quarker builds that really hurt, recently. Can take down your health to Last Stand in a couple of seconds, from 500m away.
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