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Post by psychopsyd on Jul 4, 2020 16:14:09 GMT -5
Ok...I have been reading this thread but I don't get what you are trying to do... It looks like you have started a new battle account and attempted to SLOWLY rank it up, F2P I assume, and level up gear by not having a full 5 bot hangar...but it turns out you are too talented and have been promoted to MASTER before your hangar is deep enough to stay there and score meaningful rewards for your efforts. YET...you made efforts to prevent your demotion to EXPERT. (Getting beaten back to EXPERT while trying to win every game is not "tanking"...it's supposed to be part of the method PIXO uses to accurately rank pilots and their hangars for the Matchmaker.) For reader such as myself...of limited divination... will you explain what you wish to do? Right now, just trying to find any kind of a hint of enjoyment from playing. But there is none. Itâs just game after game after game facing mostly well-leveled Champions. Even the few I win, Iâm still dead last. I can still drop back to Expert just as easily with 4 bots as with 3 - just kamikaze it from the start, and I can be out of most games in under 2 minutes causing almost no damage if I want to play that way. But now that Iâm here, Iâm trying to alter my game play and figure out how to at least survive and get some semblance of a return for my efforts, which for all of this past week has been utterly futile. Finishing at the bottom of the team earns you squat, win or lose, and no matter how hard I try to play smart, thatâs where I end up. Every damn game. Itâs like everybody is running boosters and all my gear got nerfed back to level 1. In all my years of playing, Iâve never seen it this bad. A huge difference between you and me is that compared to you...I suck. This is fact, not flattery. There is no way on Earth I would have made MASTER with a 3 bot hangar of lvl 8 equipment. I was at 5 bots before leaving DIAMOND. (5 kinda miserable bots...but 5) This was all grind because I'm too cheap to pay for advancement. I was able to run a LEO thru master because I could drop him at specific situations where he could do the job...and I leveled him ridiculously. Having 5 bots meant I could specialize bot use and tailor them to the job. I have played long enough to luck into PIXO awarding me bots from events. I don't think I built any of the bots in my hangar. (Please don't hate the playa...) I leveled them, but didn't build them...I surely didn't buy them. From EXPERT on...I haven't run a bot I didn't have at lvl 1.9 or higher. I kept the old bot until its replacement was "ready"... I don't add a wep until it substantially outpaces what I have already. Compared to me...and I mean this with awestruck respect...you are fighting with one one arm tied behind your back, weights tied to your ankles and an eye bleeding hangover...yet, you are in the most frustrating league in this game. Is this where I try to get you to spend money? - 「fluffernutter」 NO - I DON'T...I'm a tightwad. But...maybe lighten up a little bit. I fairly positive you are getting beaten by equipment and bodies... unfortunate fact of life in this game. Fixable with time...but will suck until changed. If the game is too much work for too little enjoyment...well...life is too short for that kind of 「dookie」. I don't want you to leave...but I don't want ANYONE to spend all their time miserable. And this is just a game. I agree that your hangar should not be matched against mine, but if MM puts you across from me... I'm not going to think, "Hey, that's Danny and he's running fewer and lower leveled bots...so I should cut him a break." I don't even read the nametags above the bots...I've erased clanmates (so I've been told) and moved on. If you make CHAMP with a 4 bot hangar, you da MAN... And you will have decided to do it that way.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Jul 4, 2020 18:44:30 GMT -5
psychopsyd, not gonna quote that whole thing, but you did hit on some good points. I don’t consider myself a great player - good, maybe, but not great. I’ve just been playing long enough to have a good idea of the kind of bots I do best with, and I’ve worked on building those bots (or in a few rare cases, buying them if they’re dirt cheap), and making the best of the weapons I can get just from grinding. That’s also why I usually suck royally in skirmish and arena. But it’s been a long, slow slog - intentionally so. This latest account I’m currently running, I had no intentions of taking it this far. I went as far as I could with two hangar slots, then broke down and got a third so I could actually use my titan once in awhile. The whole point was to slow down my upward progress, and up until I hit Expert, I had been doing a pretty good job of it, Then I just couldn’t slow it down. But before I got to that point, because I took so long moving up (with a LOT of losses and low-scoring games in the process), I was able to get an Arthur and get it up to a decent level (40 as of earlier today). What that meant was the bad games where Arthur never fully charged were really bad, but the good games where he came out to play were really good. Coming up through Diamond and Expert, the games were pretty well mixed. Lots of slaughters both ways, a few good competitive games, but wins and losses were pretty well spread out. Fast forward to last week when I hit Master 3, I’ve just been on the receiving end of nonstop hulksmash, which as you can see from this thread, has been a very frustrating shift. I just have to ride it out. I’ll either get knocked back to Expert, or the law of averages will catch up at some point and give me some better matchups. I just have to be patient until I can get this hangar leveled up a bit.
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Post by psychopsyd on Jul 4, 2020 22:28:59 GMT -5
Ok...so this is (sorta) going according to a plan you have laid out...
KEWL
You're aware this process is going to suck for quite a while before anything gets better...
I wish you the best and you can message me if you want to call somebody rude names in confidentiality... particularly if it's me. (You won't get reported...you will get graded. Having been a mechanic, a roustabout, and a salesman I seriously doubt I can be offended anymore.)
BTW: to anyone actually reading my posts...fools...life gets simpler if you remember that OFFENSE CAN ONLY AFFECT YOU IF YOU TAKE IT. If you turn down their offer, then they're the only one upset.
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Post by 6kings7 on Jul 4, 2020 23:08:10 GMT -5
VERY TRUE. Low Masters is frustrating. Probably the most cash disadvantaged ranking zone - tho it apparently never stops. I found that ranking up requires to you keep revising your play style. I found follow the leader support to be good practice. But there is no remedy for getting one-shotted when you are paired with all OP. It is even more frustrating when you get matched against players at your OWN LEVEL who are all green with 150 Titans. Thankfully it doesn't last forever and even when you rank up, you still lose.
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Post by milty72 on Jul 5, 2020 6:08:28 GMT -5
Well that was a long read. I generally don't read everything in a thread but this time I did. I read it all as I've been hanging in Masters for over a year now after starting a Legacy quest and droping back down from Champions League. Personally I don't get frustrated like you have Danny Linguini, which is a shame you are and I could really feel your frustrations reading your posts. psychopsyd and a few others had some great advice. Like playing more the support worker and not playing as aggressive. I learnt those tactics a while back using underpowered hangars going into Masters and then pushing into Champions League. I think I've been in this zone for so long now that that style of play is ingrained in me. If I go gang busters I'm dead in no time. So I chill. I watch a bit more. I pick my targets and go 1v1. (Sometimes doesn't go that way) but that's what I base my win on. The overall win is the cherry on the top. But playing random mode solo artist I can't pick my teammates and they can't not pick me, the one with the Freedom Schutze or Spiral Jesse. The way I play is not for everyone as not everyone has my mentality. I see you only cracked open the 4th slot and that's no mean feat getting to this league with only 3 bots. The way I see hangar slots is the more bots the more flexibility you will have to build a hangar with good counters to bots you find on the field. So more selections to pick the right bot for the right job.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Jul 21, 2020 13:48:48 GMT -5
Ok, I'm not getting this at all.
Played a couple of games today to rack up a few ads to grab my freebies. I'm getting melted, as usual, emptying clip after clip into reds doing little to no damage, and of course my usual moron teammates who can neither capture nor hold a beacon. Game over, I'm expecting to see the usual assortment of high level Champion hangars based on how poorly I'm doing against them, and much to my surprise, there's a couple of Masters and the rest are Experts. Huh? And they're not tankers, their hangars look just like what you'd expect for Masters and Experts, except my spec-wise competitive hangar isn't doing crap against them. And I wasn't playing like a moron, as I occasionally do when I'm in a hopeless situation, because the game didn't start out hopeless - we started out with a 3-2 beacon advantage, even up 4-1 at one point, and then we just got steamrolled. Of course the bug zapper Ao Ming hanging near spawn avoiding anything that looked remotely like a vertical light bar thingie didn't help any, but that doesn't explain the utter ineffectiveness of my gear against what looked on paper like equally matched opponents.
And am I the only one getting absolutely squat out of my Storms? Three lvl 9's on a Ravana with a couple of Storm-specific pilot skills do NOTHING against anything. Ever. It might be the most useless loadout in my collection. If not the most useless, then certainly the most disappointing.
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on Jul 21, 2020 21:37:43 GMT -5
Ok, I'm not getting this at all. Played a couple of games today to rack up a few ads to grab my freebies. I'm getting melted, as usual, emptying clip after clip into reds doing little to no damage, and of course my usual moron teammates who can neither capture nor hold a beacon. Game over, I'm expecting to see the usual assortment of high level Champion hangars based on how poorly I'm doing against them, and much to my surprise, there's a couple of Masters and the rest are Experts. Huh? And they're not tankers, their hangars look just like what you'd expect for Masters and Experts, except my spec-wise competitive hangar isn't doing crap against them. And I wasn't playing like a moron, as I occasionally do when I'm in a hopeless situation, because the game didn't start out hopeless - we started out with a 3-2 beacon advantage, even up 4-1 at one point, and then we just got steamrolled. Of course the bug zapper Ao Ming hanging near spawn avoiding anything that looked remotely like a vertical light bar thingie didn't help any, but that doesn't explain the utter ineffectiveness of my gear against what looked on paper like equally matched opponents. And am I the only one getting absolutely squat out of my Storms? Three lvl 9's on a Ravana with a couple of Storm-specific pilot skills do NOTHING against anything. Ever. It might be the most useless loadout in my collection. If not the most useless, then certainly the most disappointing. Do you lag like crazy? Can't explain how it's this bad without some video. This mystery might require the attention of Mr Sherlock Holmes himself.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Jul 22, 2020 8:29:07 GMT -5
Ok, I'm not getting this at all. Played a couple of games today to rack up a few ads to grab my freebies. I'm getting melted, as usual, emptying clip after clip into reds doing little to no damage, and of course my usual moron teammates who can neither capture nor hold a beacon. Game over, I'm expecting to see the usual assortment of high level Champion hangars based on how poorly I'm doing against them, and much to my surprise, there's a couple of Masters and the rest are Experts. Huh? And they're not tankers, their hangars look just like what you'd expect for Masters and Experts, except my spec-wise competitive hangar isn't doing crap against them. And I wasn't playing like a moron, as I occasionally do when I'm in a hopeless situation, because the game didn't start out hopeless - we started out with a 3-2 beacon advantage, even up 4-1 at one point, and then we just got steamrolled. Of course the bug zapper Ao Ming hanging near spawn avoiding anything that looked remotely like a vertical light bar thingie didn't help any, but that doesn't explain the utter ineffectiveness of my gear against what looked on paper like equally matched opponents. And am I the only one getting absolutely squat out of my Storms? Three lvl 9's on a Ravana with a couple of Storm-specific pilot skills do NOTHING against anything. Ever. It might be the most useless loadout in my collection. If not the most useless, then certainly the most disappointing. Do you lag like crazy? Can't explain how it's this bad without some video. This mystery might require the attention of Mr Sherlock Holmes himself. Well you KNOW what will happen, right? As soon as I figure out how to record video of a game to show somebody how horrible I’m doing, I’ll suddenly start mowing down reds like a weedwacker through dandelions.
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on Jul 22, 2020 8:33:56 GMT -5
Do you lag like crazy? Can't explain how it's this bad without some video. This mystery might require the attention of Mr Sherlock Holmes himself. Well you KNOW what will happen, right? As soon as I figure out how to record video of a game to show somebody how horrible I’m doing, I’ll suddenly start mowing down reds like a weedwacker through dandelions. Now you know what needs to be done lol.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Jul 22, 2020 8:47:30 GMT -5
Ok, I'm not getting this at all. Played a couple of games today to rack up a few ads to grab my freebies. I'm getting melted, as usual, emptying clip after clip into reds doing little to no damage, and of course my usual moron teammates who can neither capture nor hold a beacon. Game over, I'm expecting to see the usual assortment of high level Champion hangars based on how poorly I'm doing against them, and much to my surprise, there's a couple of Masters and the rest are Experts. Huh? And they're not tankers, their hangars look just like what you'd expect for Masters and Experts, except my spec-wise competitive hangar isn't doing crap against them. And I wasn't playing like a moron, as I occasionally do when I'm in a hopeless situation, because the game didn't start out hopeless - we started out with a 3-2 beacon advantage, even up 4-1 at one point, and then we just got steamrolled. Of course the bug zapper Ao Ming hanging near spawn avoiding anything that looked remotely like a vertical light bar thingie didn't help any, but that doesn't explain the utter ineffectiveness of my gear against what looked on paper like equally matched opponents. And am I the only one getting absolutely squat out of my Storms? Three lvl 9's on a Ravana with a couple of Storm-specific pilot skills do NOTHING against anything. Ever. It might be the most useless loadout in my collection. If not the most useless, then certainly the most disappointing. Differences in modules (maxed premium vs whatever you have) could explain a lot. Also: For giggles I decided to put my 'meta' bots (won in various boxes and contests) in a hangar for a change. All L6, no pilots, no modules (except Quantum Radar as per 6P regs) and armed them all as RDB's. Nothing but Tulus, Pins, Avalanches. Two leeches, Ravana, Au Jun and.. Tyr. Closest thing I have that's a 5th meta bot. Maybe a Blitz would have been better. Anywho, they actually do better than my normal hangars, no real surprise, despite their uniform weapons loadout. The Ravana is the most useless of the bunch, the others being way more fully functional at their level without modules. Part of the secret I think is that I'm always engaging at range and so often can get licks in without having to stand toe to toe. So maybe try a weapons change? (which is easy for me to say, no pilots means freedom to do whatever I like)
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Post by Grumpy Tanker #Official on Jul 23, 2020 6:53:15 GMT -5
Agreed, Master's is a tough gig. I remember getting some advice on it, firstly hang in there. Secondly, you need to find the "you" on the Red team. Find your niche.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Jul 25, 2020 7:26:23 GMT -5
This is total absolute 「fluffernutter」ing bull「dookie」 now. Every 「fluffernutter」ing game today against all champions, games lost, dead last, most times not even close to #5. One game I finally lasted long enough to charge my lvl 40 Arthur, and I end up against a maxed out Nodens and some other little red 「dookie」 ankle-biter behind me. And of course not another blue anywhere in sight trying to save that beacon. In case anybody is wondering, I did NOTHING to it before it chewed through my shields and killed me. Nothing. His health meter DID NOT MOVE. This is not fair to me or the poor 「illegitimate child」s who are unlucky enough to get me on their team. Again, somebody tell me what is remotely enjoyable about this crap.
Like I said, absolute 「fluffernutter」ing bull「dookie」. And they wonder why the player base is down. Keep spreading that power gap, you 「fluffernutter」ing imbeciles.
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