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Post by Cyclone Nodens on Jun 17, 2020 17:29:08 GMT -5
Now I think this might be biased but I love/hate Hawk because he's cool and wrecks my team. Now I've been thinking, and maybe it would be good if Hawk did not bypass resistance, but did more damage to Titans, like 2.5x? Instead, it could also do with being slightly less powerful than the Ao Jun's flight, becuase didn't it say it was designed SPECIFICALLY to fight Titans? Also, it should have less DR than the AG in flight to make it pretty balanced but still fit in the meta.
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Post by Joopiter on Jun 17, 2020 17:39:04 GMT -5
I agree that one of the reasonable ways to nerf it down from last week's Test Server is the built-in weapon being specific to titans. And that's a good factor you threw out there... 2x-3x more damage against titans. It's really the only way to keep it balanced and hopefully pix goes this route. I don't see pix nerfing it's hp or weapon loadout, not that those two factors would make much sense.
Having a weapon that can kill titans and can be used towards regular bots with the same damage output is just insane.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jun 17, 2020 22:36:29 GMT -5
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Jun 17, 2020 23:04:39 GMT -5
Make its weapon only target titans, otherwise the ability is just for protection and redirecting damage at enemies. It would make the weapons power less of a factor in games and the strength behind the ability itself would be perfect.
Also, if this is done then it can have some pretty good back story to it like "the weapon itself was focused on so much that the targeting system started to have problems from being overlooked, this made it unable to lock onto anything smaller than a titan"
Hell, at that point you can give the weapon infinite range, and the ability to ignore all shields. Probably would be the only way you could do it without changing half the bot.
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Post by Robotor Affan on Jun 18, 2020 0:21:40 GMT -5
As an unofficial Pix representative, I agree with the suggestion. We'll keep the damage output (also flight speed/duration and special DR bypass) as they are but if the built in weapon is targeting a Titan, the damage will be multiplied.
This for sure will attract more investors (aka unlimited wealth paid players) to our game and it makes War Robots more attractive.
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Post by Shockwave on Jun 18, 2020 1:14:45 GMT -5
Wanna make it balanced?
Make the beam ONLY damage or active when you aim at Titans.
So now when you fight normal robots you only be fly with DR without being able to attack (Because the Hawk disables its weapons when it flies and the beam only damage Titans), and when is in land it will act as a Natasha.
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Post by Flaminius on Jun 18, 2020 3:39:14 GMT -5
 It's the only way. |
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Post by spartan44 on Jun 18, 2020 5:53:18 GMT -5
They will buff it more and make it platinum based. Then buff it again.
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Post by frunobulax on Jun 18, 2020 7:13:04 GMT -5
Now I think this might be biased but I love/hate Hawk because he's cool and wrecks my team. Now I've been thinking, and maybe it would be good if Hawk did not bypass resistance, but did more damage to Titans, like 2.5x? Instead, it could also do with being slightly less powerful than the Ao Jun's flight, becuase didn't it say it was designed SPECIFICALLY to fight Titans? Also, it should have less DR than the AG in flight to make it pretty balanced but still fit in the meta. Jesus, it's not even released. If you have been around for a while, then you'll know that bots will often be much stronger or weaker than they appeared on test server. I found it underwhelming against titans last weekend, btw.
But if Pixo needs a new cash cow, it will be OP. It's that easy. If they just needed something to counter titans, they would sell a module that reduces DR. But then people wouldn't need to spend $100 for a new bot.
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Post by Flaminius on Jun 18, 2020 16:33:51 GMT -5
Now I think this might be biased but I love/hate Hawk because he's cool and wrecks my team. Now I've been thinking, and maybe it would be good if Hawk did not bypass resistance, but did more damage to Titans, like 2.5x? Instead, it could also do with being slightly less powerful than the Ao Jun's flight, becuase didn't it say it was designed SPECIFICALLY to fight Titans? Also, it should have less DR than the AG in flight to make it pretty balanced but still fit in the meta. Jesus, it's not even released. If you have been around for a while, then you'll know that bots will often be much stronger or weaker than they appeared on test server. I found it underwhelming against titans last weekend, btw.
But if Pixo needs a new cash cow, it will be OP. It's that easy. If they just needed something to counter titans, they would sell a module that reduces DR. But then people wouldn't need to spend $100 for a new bot.
This is fair comment. It's obviously depressing, but it is spot on. One Arthur ruins our game when I am squadding with the kids on my smurf, but we still have lots of fun. The game is broken, we all know that, but c'mon I'm not about to start playing Frotnite with them! |
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Post by frunobulax on Jun 18, 2020 16:41:56 GMT -5
One Arthur ruins our game when I am squadding with the kids on my smurf, but we still have lots of fun. The game is broken, we all know that, but c'mon I'm not about to start playing Frotnite with them! Same here. I sometimes squad with my daughter in a smurf (Silver/Gold league), and essentially the number of titans on either side determines the outcome of the game. Our accounts aren't close to level 30 yet. We win a fair share of games by agressively pushing for beacons, but it's incredibly frustrating to have almost won a game just to see two red titans turn the game while killing blue bots like clay pigeons. I'm seriously considering to build a Stalker for the late game, but I guess it takes a Loki to evade the titans efficiently enougn... |
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Post by Flaminius on Jun 18, 2020 17:12:44 GMT -5
One Arthur ruins our game when I am squadding with the kids on my smurf, but we still have lots of fun. The game is broken, we all know that, but c'mon I'm not about to start playing Frotnite with them! Same here. I sometimes squad with my daughter in a smurf (Silver/Gold league), and essentially the number of titans on either side determines the outcome of the game. Our accounts aren't close to level 30 yet. We win a fair share of games by agressively pushing for beacons, but it's incredibly frustrating to have almost won a game just to see two red titans turn the game while killing blue bots like clay pigeons. I'm seriously considering to build a Stalker for the late game, but I guess it takes a Loki to evade the titans efficiently enougn... As if them having better bots wasn't enough! |
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Post by aaronc on Jun 18, 2020 19:54:32 GMT -5
I also found the Hawk underwhelming vs Titans and deadly to normal bots on the test server. But making their weapon only work against titans would, IMO, be a mistake. Don't forget that currently, when it activates its ability, it can't use its other weapons. So no Titans around would mean that all it could do was fly. Needs a different solution.
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Post by shivaswrath on Jun 18, 2020 21:46:11 GMT -5
Still don't know if Dragoon/Marquee is the better build vs Glacier/Rime.
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Post by bob1324546t8867 on Aug 20, 2020 2:59:01 GMT -5
I think the beam damage is fine but just make it only bypass titan resistance because normal bots need their resistance or they will be flattened.
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Post by Adazahi on Aug 20, 2020 3:06:21 GMT -5
I love the hawk but it feels like its just gonna be a powercreeped Ao Guang that destroys Ao Guangs. Ao Guang doesnt need any more powercreep, its already just a nerfed leech!
I think making it deal a ton more damage to titans is a great idea, because that is the point of the bot.
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Post by mammoth on Aug 21, 2020 19:20:12 GMT -5
Dream on guys for the change on hawk. They have failed at scorpion sales thus they need to catch up with hawk sales which is exactly why its OP that it can take down the entire enemy team single handedly. Just maybe they will nerf it when the game is full with hawks as their target has already achieved.
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Post by T34 on Aug 22, 2020 1:33:04 GMT -5
Dream on guys for the change on hawk. They have failed at scorpion sales thus they need to catch up with hawk sales which is exactly why its OP that it can take down the entire enemy team single handedly. Just maybe they will nerf it when the game is full with hawks as their target has already achieved. I would not say they failed w the scorpion just yet. Watch it being buffed. As for the hawk, I think Pix is desperate for more money. Pix may think whales are prepared to pay more for power or they just don’t care and need more revenue. I saw a hawk slaughter an entire team, they can’t get balancing so wrong. Something is up. |
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