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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on May 22, 2020 0:04:01 GMT -5
Dear Pix, This is 「fluffernutter」ing stupid. The End
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Post by rags on May 22, 2020 0:07:27 GMT -5
69. Nice
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 0:23:00 GMT -5
Dear Pix, This is ?fluffernutter?ing stupid. The End 9K "Honor", what a friggin joke. Dear Cdr. Crimmins , We understand your frustration Commander. However, we have received his $3,000 wire transfer and we are quite happy with the outcome. Yours Truly, Richard Cranium
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Post by fiannaidhe on May 22, 2020 3:27:06 GMT -5
cool story bro
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on May 22, 2020 6:03:13 GMT -5
A tale of Two halves:
When you have a monster of a hanger and fighting average players is as easy as stomping on an ant.
When you try to come last but even your worst effort is better than half your team's...
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on May 22, 2020 9:43:23 GMT -5
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on May 22, 2020 11:11:03 GMT -5
A tale of Two halves: When you have a monster of a hanger and fighting average players is as easy as stomping on an ant. When you try to come last but even your worst effort is better than half your team's... Trying to come in last? Hah! How about making it to M2 playing this hangar? Do you really think I was trying to come in last? Thanks. Nothing in my hangar lasted beyond 3 shots from that Ming, which outranged me by at least 100m, to say nothing of the fire coming from the rest of the Reds, bless them, who were only doing their best to snatch every scrap that fell from the table. I did jump up here to take this screenshot for the old scrapbook, as it had become apparent to me that things were reaching a tipping point. My only kill was Cannon Fodder, seen on the left heading for A. I jumped over there, managed to kill him and reflip the beacon and then, briefly exposed as I tried to get back to center my Hover joined the rest of the pile. Should I have dropped my Kid then? How selfish of me to not do my best to help Smiley to crack 6mil. Instead I dropped my Tyr, my last bot, and saw out the rest of the match trying to get some healing honor and fire at any targets in range of which there were none (and precious little healing). If I sound salty, it's because I get the feeling you are accusing me of tanking - something that Aurora Nova is staunchly against. I have had to personally kick players for it and have had to DM them explaining the decision. Always pleasant. If I were managing my league I would for damn sure never have risen to M3 much less be knocking on the door to M1. I would be back in Expert where variety survives and matches have a much greater chance not to be mind numbingly boringly one sided, win or lose. I don't blame Smiley for this match, nor my teammates nor the other Reds. Nor you, I guess, because why wouldn't you assume I was tanking seeing my stat line? I blame Pix and their policies for this stupidity. I still love playing this game, damn it, and I weep for what it could have been.
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on May 22, 2020 11:39:19 GMT -5
A tale of Two halves: When you have a monster of a hanger and fighting average players is as easy as stomping on an ant. When you try to come last but even your worst effort is better than half your team's... Trying to come in last? Hah! How about making it to M2 playing this hangar? Do you really think I was trying to come in last? Thanks. Nothing in my hangar lasted beyond 3 shots from that Ming, which outranged me by at least 100m, to say nothing of the fire coming from the rest of the Reds, bless them, who were only doing their best to snatch every scrap that fell from the table. I did jump up here to take this screenshot for the old scrapbook, as it had become apparent to me that things were reaching a tipping point. My only kill was Cannon Fodder, seen on the left heading for A. I jumped over there, managed to kill him and reflip the beacon and then, briefly exposed as I tried to get back to center my Hover joined the rest of the pile. Should I have dropped my Kid then? How selfish of me to not do my best to help Smiley to crack 6mil. Instead I dropped my Tyr, my last bot, and saw out the rest of the match trying to get some healing honor and fire at any targets in range of which there were none (and precious little healing). If I sound salty, it's because I get the feeling you are accusing me of tanking - something that Aurora Nova is staunchly against. I have had to personally kick players for it and have had to DM them explaining the decision. Always pleasant. If I were managing my league I would for damn sure never have risen to M3 much less be knocking on the door to M1. I would be back in Expert where variety survives and matches have a much greater chance not to be mind numbingly boringly one sided, win or lose. I don't blame Smiley for this match, nor my teammates nor the other Reds. Nor you, I guess, because why wouldn't you assume I was tanking seeing my stat line? I blame Pix and their policies for this stupidity. I still love playing this game, damn it, and I weep for what it could have been. Whoa, relax man. I meant no offense, nor was I accusing you of being a tanker. I know about your level capping habits so I knew there was no way can actually be a proper (traditional) tanker/seal clubber. I just saw the 69k dmg, and assumed that you gave up half way through once you realised that the chances of winning was zero percent. And that is something I have no issues with, I do the same thing. I see no reason to try if there is no chance of winning. The way I see it, "trying" without the winning intent is meaningless. So once there's no way to win, what's the point what you do? So I wasn't hating on you at all. But to answer some of your points: yeah, once I saw the low damage score I thought you were trying to come in last (which isn't a bad thing in this case imo). Even hitting an enemy for 10 solid seconds with punishers would've easily broke that score. And no, I wouldn't have dropped my Titan in this case either. This match is already lost, no point feeding the whale and dragging this game for longer. P.S. Nice hanger. But I must say, I unfortunately have been seeing a lot more low levelled players in M1 or M2 these days, with hangers as low as only level 5 (but generally with a fairly decent levelled Titan). Looks like the MM is really trying to push everyone up.
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Post by perky on May 24, 2020 23:41:34 GMT -5
That guy with the 5 mil damage must be a really really good pilot
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on May 25, 2020 2:41:22 GMT -5
That guy with the 5 mil damage must be a really really good pilot Ehh, not necessarily. That guy's got a stacked hanger and was fighting against a bunch of M2 players. Using a max Ao Ming against a bunch of M2 players is an easy way to hit monstrous amounts of damage since the Ao Ming can basically one shot most M2 bots.
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Post by bahogilok on May 25, 2020 5:47:29 GMT -5
The worst part of that screenshot is being so close to 69, 420 damage.
P.S. Nice guild - I remember being part of it before quitting right before dash bots were released.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on May 26, 2020 17:15:56 GMT -5
Hey look, Pix wrote a sequel! It was nice seeing the plucky good guys win this one but my part was still pretty damned boring. and yes, I got meched. Titan, Loki and all. Watched the last 4minutes from the Sky God's perspective as it rained its wrath down across the barren moonscape.
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Post by T34 on May 26, 2020 17:46:32 GMT -5
Sad story OP. I see this happening all the time. Mostly in the form of one group getting 500K while another getting 3 or 4M+
This disparity is just getting bigger.
On the funny side. The match maker made him lose. P2L and P2W in one bucket.
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Post by kingdmm on May 26, 2020 19:02:17 GMT -5
A tale of Two halves: When you have a monster of a hanger and fighting average players is as easy as stomping on an ant. When you try to come last but even your worst effort is better than half your team's... Trying to come in last? Hah! How about making it to M2 playing this hangar? Do you really think I was trying to come in last? Thanks. Nothing in my hangar lasted beyond 3 shots from that Ming, which outranged me by at least 100m, to say nothing of the fire coming from the rest of the Reds, bless them, who were only doing their best to snatch every scrap that fell from the table. I did jump up here to take this screenshot for the old scrapbook, as it had become apparent to me that things were reaching a tipping point. My only kill was Cannon Fodder, seen on the left heading for A. I jumped over there, managed to kill him and reflip the beacon and then, briefly exposed as I tried to get back to center my Hover joined the rest of the pile. Should I have dropped my Kid then? How selfish of me to not do my best to help Smiley to crack 6mil. Instead I dropped my Tyr, my last bot, and saw out the rest of the match trying to get some healing honor and fire at any targets in range of which there were none (and precious little healing). If I sound salty, it's because I get the feeling you are accusing me of tanking - something that Aurora Nova is staunchly against. I have had to personally kick players for it and have had to DM them explaining the decision. Always pleasant. If I were managing my league I would for damn sure never have risen to M3 much less be knocking on the door to M1. I would be back in Expert where variety survives and matches have a much greater chance not to be mind numbingly boringly one sided, win or lose. I don't blame Smiley for this match, nor my teammates nor the other Reds. Nor you, I guess, because why wouldn't you assume I was tanking seeing my stat line? I blame Pix and their policies for this stupidity. I still love playing this game, damn it, and I weep for what it could have been. IDK, less than 1k damage means you didn't even kill one of their bots. I play a lvl 6-7 hangar and average around 600k, so I understand what the other guy was saying.
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Post by rags on May 26, 2020 20:50:12 GMT -5
Trying to come in last? Hah! How about making it to M2 playing this hangar? Do you really think I was trying to come in last? Thanks. Nothing in my hangar lasted beyond 3 shots from that Ming, which outranged me by at least 100m, to say nothing of the fire coming from the rest of the Reds, bless them, who were only doing their best to snatch every scrap that fell from the table. I did jump up here to take this screenshot for the old scrapbook, as it had become apparent to me that things were reaching a tipping point. My only kill was Cannon Fodder, seen on the left heading for A. I jumped over there, managed to kill him and reflip the beacon and then, briefly exposed as I tried to get back to center my Hover joined the rest of the pile. Should I have dropped my Kid then? How selfish of me to not do my best to help Smiley to crack 6mil. Instead I dropped my Tyr, my last bot, and saw out the rest of the match trying to get some healing honor and fire at any targets in range of which there were none (and precious little healing). If I sound salty, it's because I get the feeling you are accusing me of tanking - something that Aurora Nova is staunchly against. I have had to personally kick players for it and have had to DM them explaining the decision. Always pleasant. If I were managing my league I would for damn sure never have risen to M3 much less be knocking on the door to M1. I would be back in Expert where variety survives and matches have a much greater chance not to be mind numbingly boringly one sided, win or lose. I don't blame Smiley for this match, nor my teammates nor the other Reds. Nor you, I guess, because why wouldn't you assume I was tanking seeing my stat line? I blame Pix and their policies for this stupidity. I still love playing this game, damn it, and I weep for what it could have been. IDK, less than 1k damage means you didn't even kill one of their bots. I play a lvl 6-7 hangar and average around 600k, so I understand what the other guy was saying. and what’s your average against maxed Champions League? 6k?
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Post by Method Games[YT] on May 26, 2020 21:33:30 GMT -5
It's MM at fault here but...... 25k damage and 5 beacons most likely means you ran around in a Loki for a couple minutes, capping the same beacons that other team mates had probably already covered. I know you are completely outgunned in these situations, my tip is to save the Loki (if it is one you are running) til after the Titans come out, use your other bots first to get as much damage in early against all the Ravanas, Leechs and Phantoms
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on May 27, 2020 9:28:44 GMT -5
Thanks for the tips. I have been playing against champion league hangars for quite some time and when a maxed phantom with maxed last stand and pilot skills comes streaking across the field to ankle bite me for a second or two before my bot explodes or when my titan gets vaporized in 3 or 4 salvos from well outside weapons range there really isn't a lot in the 'do as much damage as you can' category. Often that means the Phantom, or Ravana or Leech is ravaging our spawn area. I guess I could delay dropping my next bot until my team clears out the spawn area but often that never happens.
I have plenty of screenshots of games where there are 20+ bot carcasses scattered all around you as you drop into your 5th bot 2min into the match. My Loki was my 4th drop, the map was Moon and smart Kid and Arthur pilots have little problem denying beacons and/or killing Loki's in close quarters. I do it all the time when I get games vs Masters/Experts/low Champs. So while the Loki got me 3 of those beacons, I eventually got caught. I did what I could with what I had.
Here's the thing. I have been playing War Robots for 4 years come July 4th, predating the Camelot bots, Pix's sale to Mail.ru and the new MM. I get my situation. I have no and have never had interest in Champs, chasing the meta, and grinding endlessly. My dreams of a max 12/12 high gold hangar died in Jan 2017 with the new MM and the Age of the Moving Goal Post. Most of the money I've pumped into this game came early, when Pix was far less predatory in their financial practices.
So this is Rants. I will treat it as such.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on May 27, 2020 9:35:03 GMT -5
Trying to come in last? Hah! How about making it to M2 playing this hangar? Do you really think I was trying to come in last? Thanks. Nothing in my hangar lasted beyond 3 shots from that Ming, which outranged me by at least 100m, to say nothing of the fire coming from the rest of the Reds, bless them, who were only doing their best to snatch every scrap that fell from the table. I did jump up here to take this screenshot for the old scrapbook, as it had become apparent to me that things were reaching a tipping point. My only kill was Cannon Fodder, seen on the left heading for A. I jumped over there, managed to kill him and reflip the beacon and then, briefly exposed as I tried to get back to center my Hover joined the rest of the pile. Should I have dropped my Kid then? How selfish of me to not do my best to help Smiley to crack 6mil. Instead I dropped my Tyr, my last bot, and saw out the rest of the match trying to get some healing honor and fire at any targets in range of which there were none (and precious little healing). If I sound salty, it's because I get the feeling you are accusing me of tanking - something that Aurora Nova is staunchly against. I have had to personally kick players for it and have had to DM them explaining the decision. Always pleasant. If I were managing my league I would for damn sure never have risen to M3 much less be knocking on the door to M1. I would be back in Expert where variety survives and matches have a much greater chance not to be mind numbingly boringly one sided, win or lose. I don't blame Smiley for this match, nor my teammates nor the other Reds. Nor you, I guess, because why wouldn't you assume I was tanking seeing my stat line? I blame Pix and their policies for this stupidity. I still love playing this game, damn it, and I weep for what it could have been. IDK, less than 1k damage means you didn't even kill one of their bots. I play a lvl 6-7 hangar and average around 600k, so I understand what the other guy was saying. Missed the part where I got a kill, did you? Damage, damage, damage. You would have loved the pre-honor system where pilots like me who care about beacons could win a crap ton of games without being shoved up the leagues while you could climb up towards the light, win or lose, by getting your precious damage in. There's more to this game than damage, especially when playing Domination.
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Post by kingdmm on May 27, 2020 13:07:23 GMT -5
IDK, less than 1k damage means you didn't even kill one of their bots. I play a lvl 6-7 hangar and average around 600k, so I understand what the other guy was saying. and what’s your average against maxed Champions League? 6k? I play against Champion league maxed players every game. I only hit under 100k if I decided to leave early.
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Post by kingdmm on May 27, 2020 13:09:08 GMT -5
IDK, less than 1k damage means you didn't even kill one of their bots. I play a lvl 6-7 hangar and average around 600k, so I understand what the other guy was saying. Missed the part where I got a kill, did you? Damage, damage, damage. You would have loved the pre-honor system where pilots like me who care about beacons could win a crap ton of games without being shoved up the leagues while you could climb up towards the light, win or lose, by getting your precious damage in. There's more to this game than damage, especially when playing Domination. You know healing is also counted as damage right? That means you didn't heal, didn't get kills, didn't do damage, and only capped 3 beacons.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on May 27, 2020 14:37:50 GMT -5
Missed the part where I got a kill, did you? Damage, damage, damage. You would have loved the pre-honor system where pilots like me who care about beacons could win a crap ton of games without being shoved up the leagues while you could climb up towards the light, win or lose, by getting your precious damage in. There's more to this game than damage, especially when playing Domination. You know healing is also counted as damage right? That means you didn't heal, didn't get kills, didn't do damage, and only capped 3 beacons. Yep, only capped 3 beacons... on Yam. And got a kill. We're ignoring the kill? I guess we're ignoring the kill. It's true he was low on HP after running the gauntlet to A but he only had it for a second or so. Why? Because I showed up and killed him. You know why my Weylands had no healing points? It's because they were vaporized by a fully maxed plasma Ming as soon as they broke cover to try and help. It's funny... it's almost as if there wasn't a screenshot showing that Ming hovering behind center beacon... but I digress. Anyway, back on topic: you know why the Tyr had no healing points? Because the game ended as I got to the end of the tunnel where 2 teammates were firing towards center. We're being pretty judge-ey here aren't we? Am I not playing the game the way I should? Is it bad that I don't use passive modules, refuse to really use my actives (all set to Quantum Radar, full disclosure I have recently used them a half dozen times to kill Loki's) and don't run my hundreds of boosters? Do you have a list of bots and weapons and levels I should be using so I can earn my keep on the battlefield? We could e-peen it up too, you know. I'll post up my current profile and hangars and you do the same.Then we both claim victory by nitpicking whatever foolish things we feel show that we are the superior, harder playing, most best-est Walking War Robots pilot!
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Post by Danny Linguini on May 27, 2020 16:43:04 GMT -5
Yep, only capped 3 beacons... on Yam. And got a kill. We're ignoring the kill? I guess we're ignoring the kill. It's true he was low on HP after running the gauntlet to A but he only had it for a second or so. Why? Because I showed up and killed him. You know why my Weylands had no healing points? It's because they were vaporized by a fully maxed plasma Ming as soon as they broke cover to try and help. It's funny... it's almost as if there wasn't a screenshot showing that Ming hovering behind center beacon... but I digress. Anyway, back on topic: you know why the Tyr had no healing points? Because the game ended as I got to the end of the tunnel where 2 teammates were firing towards center. We're being pretty judge-ey here aren't we? Am I not playing the game the way I should? Is it bad that I don't use passive modules, refuse to really use my actives (all set to Quantum Radar, full disclosure I have recently used them a half dozen times to kill Loki's) and don't run my hundreds of boosters? Do you have a list of bots and weapons and levels I should be using so I can earn my keep on the battlefield? We could e-peen it up too, you know. I'll post up my current profile and hangars and you do the same.Then we both claim victory by nitpicking whatever foolish things we feel show that we are the superior, harder playing, most best-est Walking War Robots pilot! There always seems to be somebody on every forum who knows more than everybody else, does everything better than you, blah blah blah. Anyway ... I’m completely with ya here, and I’m not even playing against many champs (hanging in Diamond 1 for as long as I possibly can, that only happens once in a great while). Full disclosure: I’m still just running a 3-slot hangar that I’m frequently mixing bots in and out of, I have nothing above level 8 except for an avenger and a lvl 10 igniter on a 2.12 Cossack, I run new bots right out of the box when I get them because I just don’t care, and I’m a restaurant-quality putz when I see my team playing like nutless pansies while I’m turning beacons alone (translation: if I see most of my team hiding while I’m trying to turn or save a key beacon, I go right into full-on kamikaze mode and the rest of you clowns are on your own). All that being said, there are still games where I’ll run two of my better bots along with the Cossie and actually put out a good effort but still get flattened in a matter of a few minutes, sometimes without even turning a beacon even though I’ve tried, because I am just flat out brutally overpowered. It happens. It’s not fun, it’s not because I suck, it’s because I’m just thoroughly outclassed and I refuse to play a beacon-capping game hiding and hoping for an opportunity to do something that will inevitably amount to nothing. Luckily those don’t happen often, it’s usually more that my teammates are morons, but they do happen. And just about as infrequently, I get on a team with a few players who actually use their heads and play like a TEAM, and those games are fun as hell. Oh yeah, and I don’t run any of my hundreds of boosters, either, and use what few active modules I have (because none of my module-bearing bots are very highly leveled) very sparingly.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Jun 18, 2020 1:24:52 GMT -5
Fifth game of my qualifications to M1. Nice. No worries, I'm sure sooner or later I'll hit the MM lottery. Or maybe.... I *did* hit the lottery. After all, I'm safe from M1 for another couple days at least! Hoorah!
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Post by Danny Linguini on Jun 18, 2020 8:03:58 GMT -5
Fifth game of my qualifications to M1. Nice. No worries, I'm sure sooner or later I'll hit the MM lottery. Or maybe.... I *did* hit the lottery. After all, I'm safe from M1 for another couple days at least! Hoorah! MM always seems to have a special place in its black heart for players qualifying for the next level, whatever that next level is. It’s night-and-day, like somebody flipped a switch from the normal suckage to exponential tablet-smashing suckage - there’s no gray in-between area. I know, because as soon as I hit a string of games like this (dead last vs mostly being in the top three), I’ll take a look at my ranking and see I’m smack in the middle of qualifying. If they’re that dead set on keeping you out of the next level, then might I suggest STOP PUSHING PLAYERS UP THE RANKS SO DAMM FAST!!!
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Sept 11, 2020 6:56:35 GMT -5
The latest example of really bad game design and the shift in gameplay that Titans has wrought.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 12, 2020 21:21:13 GMT -5
The latest example of really bad game design and the shift in gameplay that Titans has wrought. I just had a game kinda like this on Yam. Thought I was doing great, kicking ?bum-bum? and taking names, finally getting the hang of my newly outfitted corrosion Tyr and actually killing stuff with it now, and smoking everything around with Arthur. I’m thinking this has to be a #1 finish. Nope. #2. #1 was a champion who scored over 4 mil, 18 kills. I had about 1.7 mil and 5 kills, 2 caps. Not a bad outing actually, as there were 4 champs and 2 masters (including me) on each side, and I still managed 2nd. But geez, a gap from over 4 million to 1.7 between 1st and 2nd says something isn’t quite right. I’m sure the reds checking game stats were none too happy about it, either.
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