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Post by 𝖉𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖒𝖆𝖗𝖘𝖍 on May 18, 2020 11:33:08 GMT -5
Is anyone using this combination with success? The pilot skill decreases incoming damage instead of deploying the Aegis shield. I don't know the stats for the decrease but it doesn't seem like much. The Blitz is only lvl 8 so I'm not expecting a lot at this point. If this sucks at higher level I would like to know now so I don't invest time in this pilot. thanks,
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Post by Garbage game on May 18, 2020 11:35:57 GMT -5
Is anyone using this combination with success? The pilot skill decreases incoming damage instead of deploying the Aegis shield. I don't know the stats for the decrease but it doesn't seem like much. The Blitz is only lvl 8 so I'm not expecting a lot at this point. If this sucks at higher level I would like to know now so I don't invest time in this pilot. thanks, The pilot skill gives Blitz the same DR as a repulsing Leech... It's much to say the least.
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Post by seanh on May 18, 2020 11:37:29 GMT -5
I’ve just got mine going recently and it a beast. Didn’t have a blitz before getting Clive, so not sure on a comparison, but I love this yoke. It’s a little monster. Pretty much invulnerable when the ability is on. You do have to watch titans, but you can suppress them.
It is my strongest bot and the only one I can consistently use to take out multiple redz.
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Post by 𝖉𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖒𝖆𝖗𝖘𝖍 on May 18, 2020 11:43:23 GMT -5
Is anyone using this combination with success? The pilot skill decreases incoming damage instead of deploying the Aegis shield. I don't know the stats for the decrease but it doesn't seem like much. The Blitz is only lvl 8 so I'm not expecting a lot at this point. If this sucks at higher level I would like to know now so I don't invest time in this pilot. thanks, The pilot skill gives Blitz the same DR as a repulsing Leech... It's much to say the least. Dang that is a lot of DR. I guess I'll put the time in to him. Thanks!
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Post by 𝖉𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖒𝖆𝖗𝖘𝖍 on May 18, 2020 11:48:23 GMT -5
I’ve just got mine going recently and it a beast. Didn’t have a blitz before getting Clive, so not sure on a comparison, but I love this yoke. It’s a little monster. Pretty much invulnerable when the ability is on. You do have to watch titans, but you can suppress them. It is my strongest bot and the only one I can consistently use to take out multiple redz. I'm in the same boat with it being my first Blitz. So far, it gets a beat down pretty quick but like I said its only Lvl 8 and have lvl 9 Gust on it. I definitely need to level him and the equipment. thanks,
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 18, 2020 11:50:12 GMT -5
Yeah the DR is 900 defense points... or about 90% DR.
Like was said, against Titans that have so much DR mitigation, it's pointless, but against most everything else (except corrosion weapons and mid to highly leveled Cryo) it's very effective.
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Post by seanh on May 18, 2020 12:05:53 GMT -5
I’ve just got mine going recently and it a beast. Didn’t have a blitz before getting Clive, so not sure on a comparison, but I love this yoke. It’s a little monster. Pretty much invulnerable when the ability is on. You do have to watch titans, but you can suppress them. It is my strongest bot and the only one I can consistently use to take out multiple redz. I'm in the same boat with it being my first Blitz. So far, it gets a beat down pretty quick but like I said its only Lvl 8 and have lvl 9 Gust on it. I definitely need to level him and the equipment. thanks, I got mine up to 2.4 during the quick update weekend, plus I also have the deft survivor and enhance HP pilot skills, I think they probably make a big difference. Also running 2.4 magnums, they are always on and and always doing damage. I keep on getting into little kill frenzies. Constant pew, pew, pew, kill, kill, kill. Half the time I don’t even know what I’m shooting, any red hit box will do. Biggest issue is remembering to disengage and forgetting that I have already used the deft survivor. I should probably try my last stand on it, that is bound to be worth a few more dead redz ?
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Post by Deadeye on May 18, 2020 12:08:29 GMT -5
Yeah the DR is 900 defense points... or about 90% DR. Like was said, against Titans that have so much DR mitigation, it's pointless, but against most everything else (except corrosion weapons and mid to highly leveled Cryo) it's very effective. I thought the same thing and it's true to a point, but not completely. The DR mitigation is only 100% on Alpha weapons and Beta weapons on a Kid or Noodles with the additional DR mitigation Core upgraded to level 41 or higher. Most low level titans don't reach full levels of DR mitigation which is important because if someone has an average of (let's just say for argument's sake) 80% DR mitigation, then the remaining defense points would be 180 and would leave the Blitz with a DR of 64% which is still really freaking good. Add in the extremely small hit box of the Blitz and it's still a really good bot to have around Titans. The biggest dangers are rockets and the Scourge class Titan weapons which either have splash or don't miss. Otherwise, I'm finding this little guy can even hang against the Titans in a pinch.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 18, 2020 12:08:57 GMT -5
I'm in the same boat with it being my first Blitz. So far, it gets a beat down pretty quick but like I said its only Lvl 8 and have lvl 9 Gust on it. I definitely need to level him and the equipment. thanks, I got mine up to 2.4 during the quick update weekend, plus I also have the deft survivor and enhance HP pilot skills, I think they probably make a big difference. Also running 2.4 magnums, they are always on and and always doing damage. I keep on getting into little kill frenzies. Constant pew, pew, pew, kill, kill, kill. Half the time I don’t even know what I’m shooting, any red hit box will do. Biggest issue is remembering to disengage and forgetting that I have already used the deft survivor. I should probably try my last stand on it, that is bound to be worth a few more dead redz ? Was just saying how Mags have been more and more common on the Blitzi I see lately... I think that build is carving a nice little niche out. Actually considering this for my Ardent Blitz. Keeping my Sparks for the OG Blitz though.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 18, 2020 12:11:15 GMT -5
Yeah the DR is 900 defense points... or about 90% DR. Like was said, against Titans that have so much DR mitigation, it's pointless, but against most everything else (except corrosion weapons and mid to highly leveled Cryo) it's very effective. I thought the same thing and it's true to a point, but not completely. The DR mitigation is only 100% on Alpha weapons and Beta weapons on a Kid or Noodles with the additional DR mitigation Core upgraded to level 41 or higher. Most low level titans don't reach full levels of DR mitigation which is important because if someone has an average of (let's just say for argument's sake) 80% DR mitigation, then the remaining defense points would be 180 and would leave the Blitz with a DR of 64% which is still really freaking good. Add in the extremely small hit box of the Blitz and it's still a really good bot to have around Titans. The biggest dangers are rockets and the Scourge class Titan weapons which either have splash or don't miss. Otherwise, I'm finding this little guy can even hang against the Titans in a pinch. OK, really good to know... I definitely agree about anti-Titan opportunities... I get that even with my old antiquated Aegis shield as long as I can suppress them and not get caught in a crossfire. The speed added to that small hitbox is definitely helpful... for a time, at least.
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Post by rags on May 18, 2020 14:51:53 GMT -5
Yeah the DR is 900 defense points... or about 90% DR. Like was said, against Titans that have so much DR mitigation, it's pointless, but against most everything else (except corrosion weapons and mid to highly leveled Cryo) it's very effective. I thought the same thing and it's true to a point, but not completely. The DR mitigation is only 100% on Alpha weapons and Beta weapons on a Kid or Noodles with the additional DR mitigation Core upgraded to level 41 or higher. Most low level titans don't reach full levels of DR mitigation which is important because if someone has an average of (let's just say for argument's sake) 80% DR mitigation, then the remaining defense points would be 180 and would leave the Blitz with a DR of 64% which is still really freaking good. Add in the extremely small hit box of the Blitz and it's still a really good bot to have around Titans. The biggest dangers are rockets and the Scourge class Titan weapons which either have splash or don't miss. Otherwise, I'm finding this little guy can even hang against the Titans in a pinch. I thought all titans bypass DR? Are u saying it’s only Kid and Nodens or that only they can achieve a full 100%
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Post by hi5 on May 18, 2020 14:59:05 GMT -5
It’s a bit of a menace right now. Without the aegis it’s harder to tell when ability is active other than the speed so I’ve wasted shots on them. And unlike Ravana it DOES NOT need constant PCs to fight.
Little buggers are a PITA for me.
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Post by rags on May 18, 2020 15:19:25 GMT -5
It’s a bit of a menace right now. Without the aegis it’s harder to tell when ability is active other than the speed so I’ve wasted shots on them. And unlike Ravana it DOES NOT need constant PCs to fight. Little buggers are a PITA for me. There’s a DR symbol above it’s head during the ability. Makes it pretty easy once u start paying attention for it.
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Post by seanh on May 18, 2020 15:25:51 GMT -5
I thought the same thing and it's true to a point, but not completely. The DR mitigation is only 100% on Alpha weapons and Beta weapons on a Kid or Noodles with the additional DR mitigation Core upgraded to level 41 or higher. Most low level titans don't reach full levels of DR mitigation which is important because if someone has an average of (let's just say for argument's sake) 80% DR mitigation, then the remaining defense points would be 180 and would leave the Blitz with a DR of 64% which is still really freaking good. Add in the extremely small hit box of the Blitz and it's still a really good bot to have around Titans. The biggest dangers are rockets and the Scourge class Titan weapons which either have splash or don't miss. Otherwise, I'm finding this little guy can even hang against the Titans in a pinch. I thought all titans bypass DR? Are u saying it’s only Kid and Nodens or that only they can achieve a full 100% It’s the alpha weapons that bypass DR, and their ability to do it scales up as they level. I find the rocket one the worst in the blitz, one hit of a marked one of those just about ends me. One even got me in cover with the splash. But it is only the maxed ones, regular ones peal away HP but at a survivable rate if you are near cover.
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Post by hi5 on May 18, 2020 15:28:42 GMT -5
It’s a bit of a menace right now. Without the aegis it’s harder to tell when ability is active other than the speed so I’ve wasted shots on them. And unlike Ravana it DOES NOT need constant PCs to fight. Little buggers are a PITA for me. There’s a DR symbol above it’s head during the ability. Makes it pretty easy once u start paying attention for it. I’m not a fan of how they identify these things with those stacks of tiny symbols, especially vs a crazy fast little bot like blitz. Needs a visual effect IMO. Leech repulse is hard to see and tell which direction it’s going but there is something to indicate ability emanating from the bot.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 18, 2020 15:31:41 GMT -5
I thought all titans bypass DR? Are u saying it’s only Kid and Nodens or that only they can achieve a full 100% It’s the alpha weapons that bypass DR, and their ability to do it scales up as they level. I find the rocket one the worst in the blitz, one hit of a marked one of those just about ends me. One even got me in cover with the splash. But it is only the maxed ones, regular ones peal away HP but at a survivable rate if you are near cover. Beta weapons do too... but start at a lower value. Retaliators have 50% at level 1 (negates 50% of an opponents DR) while Vengence has 75%. Maxed Retaliators have 75% and Vengence maxes at 100%. I believe it is like that for all Beta and Alpha weapons, respectively. It is still dangerous to attack a Nodens with 4 Betas though... so one can't assume that they are a pushover. EDIT: Kids have a DR mitigation bonus attribute if you upgrade the Core component... starts at 5 % for level 1 Core and goes to 33% at level 50 Core. So, that could push a maxed Kid's Retaliators over the 100% DR Mitigation mark.
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Post by Deadeye on May 18, 2020 15:51:09 GMT -5
I thought the same thing and it's true to a point, but not completely. The DR mitigation is only 100% on Alpha weapons and Beta weapons on a Kid or Noodles with the additional DR mitigation Core upgraded to level 41 or higher. Most low level titans don't reach full levels of DR mitigation which is important because if someone has an average of (let's just say for argument's sake) 80% DR mitigation, then the remaining defense points would be 180 and would leave the Blitz with a DR of 64% which is still really freaking good. Add in the extremely small hit box of the Blitz and it's still a really good bot to have around Titans. The biggest dangers are rockets and the Scourge class Titan weapons which either have splash or don't miss. Otherwise, I'm finding this little guy can even hang against the Titans in a pinch. I thought all titans bypass DR? Are u saying it’s only Kid and Nodens or that only they can achieve a full 100% On beta weapons, yes. You probably have a spare Kid lying around if you aren't still using it. Check the Core component and you'll see something that says "additional defense mitigation". This adds to whatever your weapons already possess. Alpha weapons max out at 100% and start at 75%, but Beta weapons max at 75% and start at 50%. If you want the Betas to reach 100%, they have to be on a Kid/Noodles.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 18, 2020 15:53:54 GMT -5
I thought all titans bypass DR? Are u saying it’s only Kid and Nodens or that only they can achieve a full 100% On beta weapons, yes. You probably have a spare Kid lying around if you aren't still using it. Check the Core component and you'll see something that says "additional defense mitigation". This adds to whatever your weapons already possess. Alpha weapons max out at 100% and start at 75%, but Beta weapons max at 75% and start at 50%. If you want the Betas to reach 100%, they have to be on a Kid/Noodles. Noodles has that too? Ahhhh such dastardly devious designs by the developers!
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Post by Deadeye on May 18, 2020 15:58:16 GMT -5
On beta weapons, yes. You probably have a spare Kid lying around if you aren't still using it. Check the Core component and you'll see something that says "additional defense mitigation". This adds to whatever your weapons already possess. Alpha weapons max out at 100% and start at 75%, but Beta weapons max at 75% and start at 50%. If you want the Betas to reach 100%, they have to be on a Kid/Noodles. Noodles has that too? Ahhhh such dastardly devious designs by the developers!
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 19, 2020 8:04:16 GMT -5
There’s a DR symbol above it’s head during the ability. Makes it pretty easy once u start paying attention for it. I’m not a fan of how they identify these things with those stacks of tiny symbols, especially vs a crazy fast little bot like blitz. Needs a visual effect IMO. Leech repulse is hard to see and tell which direction it’s going but there is something to indicate ability emanating from the bot. Finally, somebody mentioned what I've been thinking on this subject for a while now. The Pantheon bots get this HUGE purple indicator reminding me not to shoot at them. I think that half of Leeches true power is "confusion." You just don't know quickly during the Fog of Battle who's leechin' who. For now I guess we have to assume that if a Bltiz is chargin' at you all angry-like, his ability is active.
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Post by ᥣᵃᵛᵃʲᵃᵛᵃ on May 19, 2020 10:16:12 GMT -5
I’m not a fan of how they identify these things with those stacks of tiny symbols, especially vs a crazy fast little bot like blitz. Needs a visual effect IMO. Leech repulse is hard to see and tell which direction it’s going but there is something to indicate ability emanating from the bot. Finally, somebody mentioned what I've been thinking on this subject for a while now. The Pantheon bots get this HUGE purple indicator reminding me not to shoot at them. I think that half of Leeches true power is "confusion." You just don't know quickly during the Fog of Battle who's leechin' who. For now I guess we have to assume that if a Bltiz is chargin' at you all angry-like, his ability is active. Yup, if it's heading in your direction, you're in trouble - for 9 seconds, at least. Saw a lovely YT from Chief running it in FFA - really is good when paired with (a) good weapons, and (b) good skillz - both of which I am sadly lacking xD
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 19, 2020 10:27:47 GMT -5
Finally, somebody mentioned what I've been thinking on this subject for a while now. The Pantheon bots get this HUGE purple indicator reminding me not to shoot at them. I think that half of Leeches true power is "confusion." You just don't know quickly during the Fog of Battle who's leechin' who. For now I guess we have to assume that if a Bltiz is chargin' at you all angry-like, his ability is active. Yup, if it's heading in your direction, you're in trouble - for 9 seconds, at least. Saw a lovely YT from Chief running it in FFA - really is good when paired with (a) good weapons, and (b) good skillz - both of which I am sadly lacking xD LOL - Let's make our own clan, "Rockin' the Mediocre!"
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Post by Heishiro on Feb 4, 2021 11:03:44 GMT -5
Sorry for the necro but i dont want to make new topic.. question is with Clive's nerf is it better to have Aegis shield + Adrian or keep Clive?
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Post by hi5 on Feb 4, 2021 13:36:19 GMT -5
Sorry for the necro but i dont want to make new topic.. question is with Clive's nerf is it better to have Aegis shield + Adrian or keep Clive? I don’t know if there is a definitive answer and it usually comes down to individual tolerance for gold spend and skill training/promotion to ditch Clive. Aegis has some benefits like avoiding effects and less vulnerable to DR bypass from hawks, titans, etc. and you can stack fortifiers. But it doesn’t regenerate like on other bots and catches all kinds of extra flack. If I hadn’t dumped a ton of gold into Clive and didn’t have to level multiple skill tiers in a new pilot I might go with standard blitz. But as I own a leveled Clive I’m more likely to bench my blitz if the nerf is too much rather than incur the costs of a new pilot. Clive made blitz really, really good - I’m not sure any blitz build is at the same level now. Quarker and shredder nerf are also an indirect blitz nerf.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Feb 5, 2021 7:20:39 GMT -5
Sorry for the necro but i dont want to make new topic.. question is with Clive's nerf is it better to have Aegis shield + Adrian or keep Clive? I don’t know if there is a definitive answer and it usually comes down to individual tolerance for gold spend and skill training/promotion to ditch Clive. Aegis has some benefits like avoiding effects and less vulnerable to DR bypass from hawks, titans, etc. and you can stack fortifiers. But it doesn’t regenerate like on other bots and catches all kinds of extra flack. If I hadn’t dumped a ton of gold into Clive and didn’t have to level multiple skill tiers in a new pilot I might go with standard blitz. But as I own a leveled Clive I’m more likely to bench my blitz if the nerf is too much rather than incur the costs of a new pilot. Clive made blitz really, really good - I’m not sure any blitz build is at the same level now. Quarker and shredder nerf are also an indirect blitz nerf. Yup, all of this. I have both and have kept Clive in my main hanger (w generic pilot in fun hanger on occasion). The main reason for me is gold costs to switch. I have both RH at T4 and that is one FAST bot. It really is OP w the Shred/Quark I have on it now. If they get nerfed too hard, I’ll go back to Blaze/Rime which will be better vs Shell anyway. Keep on keepin on
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2021 7:37:30 GMT -5
Your best bet is to ditch the Blitz, and git gud with Strider, a far superior beacon capper and defender of justice! IMHO, anyways..... .......cheaper, too!
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Post by perky on Feb 10, 2021 22:15:10 GMT -5
Been using blitz for a very long time...whoopin whales and their op meta bots since it hit the battlefield...level it up and go kick butt...oh and strider kicks butt too...both very fun bots
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Post by Pilot #RG# on Feb 10, 2021 23:11:09 GMT -5
Clive is more useful if Demeter gets OP as many will start using shield breaker.
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