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Post by linearblade on May 10, 2020 1:29:44 GMT -5
If you feel the urge to leave your less flattery opinion about the scorpion, let’s leave it here to keep the Objective scorpion Thread clean enough to be useful for analysis. Leaving out of Objective Scorpion discussion thread, because I want to have objective discussion there,..
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Post by fiannaidhe on May 10, 2020 1:31:49 GMT -5
It seems like a mix of all the meta bots out there, tbh its gonna be seen out there way too often, almost a 1:1 titan to scorp ratio in the first day
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Post by someoldman on May 10, 2020 1:33:06 GMT -5
Scorpion is 「bum-bum」.
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Post by rags on May 10, 2020 1:35:30 GMT -5
Scorpion is poopie
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Post by Shockwave on May 10, 2020 1:48:54 GMT -5
I guess we just have to wait until it hits the live server to see how bad this thing for will be for game.
Remember that the Ravana started slow and nobody cared about it until Pixonic forced us to be interested in it. But the History of the game tells us that new OP won't end well for the balance of the game (if such thing actually existing).
What I found funny is that in the test server the new bots always have like low HP but in the live server they always ended up with 350,000 - 400,00 hp.
TL;DR : Scorpion is Poo Poo.
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Post by linearblade on May 10, 2020 2:16:36 GMT -5
I guess we just have to wait until it hits the live server to see how bad this thing for will be for game. Remember that the Ravana started slow and nobody cared about it until Pixonic forced us to be interested in it. But the History of the game tells us that new OP won't end well for the balance of the game (if such thing actually existing). What I found funny is that in the test server the new bots always have like low HP but in the live server they always ended up with 350,000 - 400,00 hp. TL;DR : Scorpion is Poo Poo. I think scorpion is lukewarm b/c pixonic is still unwilling to do what needs to be done and nerf the ?dookie? out of the meta bots. what they are trying to do, is create an entirely new game, and attempt to scrap the old game by marginalizing them. Their goal is to get everyone to 'pay to play' and probably increase the 'pay to win'. Unfortunately for them, in the process of doing this, they are losing all their loyal but less willing to spend, and dont like the direction its turned. furthermore, they have attempted their pay to win model late in the economic cycle (which is typical), and now covid (which has probably sealed their fate). I suspect this is the reason we are now seeing 15 dollars for 600 platinum every 20 days in the form of smaller operations. it also means 100pt/20 days increased free. so 150 pt + 900 ...so to me this implies titans didnt go over too well in price dept. it also foreshadows the coming power inflation. 1 dollar buys effectively 3 times the platinum that you can get on their bi weekly sale and 6 times the 'retail'. when you keep in mind that 600 platinum ops pass also comes with a ton of other stuff, its pretty clear that 'getting more for a whole lot less' is coming. pixonic wants to sell bots for 100 bucks. clearly they are going to have to give away a whole lot of bot for 100 bucks now. so in the end,pixonic will try hyper inflation rather than innovate and switch over to an ops pass / premium system (with likely lesser short term profits instead of longer term profits and viability) There is no reason you cant run a game for decades. there are several longstanding examples. those that collapse do so due to the same stupid problems
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Post by The VVatcher on May 10, 2020 2:17:54 GMT -5
Scorpion is dookie
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Post by rags on May 10, 2020 3:07:57 GMT -5
“Scorpoop” - foxypotato
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on May 10, 2020 4:16:59 GMT -5
This thread is an example of subject matter we’d like to have people start in Rants, so me moved ‘er here
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Post by Browncoats4ever on May 10, 2020 6:16:20 GMT -5
I imagine battles will be A LOT shorter, which is good for those grinding for the SC. It won't be very good for the ego. Deathsquads will soon have hangars of exclusively Scorpions which will allow them to spawn raid in seconds and wipe out the opposing team in less than a minute. Fun times...
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Post by bravex on May 10, 2020 6:21:09 GMT -5
In Russia, Scorpion go over to you.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 10, 2020 7:02:46 GMT -5
Pix nerfed the HECK outta the Ravana before it hit the live server. All the Scorpion stats are fluff until it goes live. If the big money clans invest heavily in Scorps let them. I couldn't keep up with the big money before and I won't be able to in the future.
Like the Ares, they'll buy 5 maxed Scorpions and then the meta will shift and then they'll buy 5 of those. Like this forum's members have taught me, I won't be over-investing in any one bot or weapon. If something gets nerfed I'll slide over to something else.
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Post by RightOn on May 10, 2020 7:16:55 GMT -5
I can live with DR since I've lived with it before. 15s 90% is RIDICULOUS but maybe weapons like sting/wasp/viper will finally have some place.
But the part that really irks me is the ability to teleport to your opponent (in a ?fluffernutter?ing CTF/KotH/War game) - AND teleport back.
If you want a teleport bot that does something different than phanny... How about making it randomly teleport somewhere. Just randomly teleports somewhere. No ?fluffernutter?ing clue where it will land. Push button, no marker business, just goes somewhere >.> Now get the ?fluffernutter? out of my face!
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 10, 2020 7:34:01 GMT -5
The Phantom was weird/bad at first but I considered how you need to forge ahead and can teleport backwards. And then I was like, "Yeah, I can live with that." Being able to spring ahead 500m and spring back will very likely be the new meta.
Will I get one? Probably. But I already have a 2.12 Ares that I haven't used in months. I'm gonna hang back and see where the meta is really going. Ravana? Scorpion?
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Post by linearblade on May 10, 2020 7:43:12 GMT -5
I can live with DR since I've lived with it before. 15s 90% is RIDICULOUS but maybe weapons like sting/wasp/viper will finally have some place. But the part that really irks me is the ability to teleport to your opponent (in a ?fluffernutter?ing CTF/KotH/War game) - AND teleport back. If you want a teleport bot that does something different than phanny... How about making it randomly teleport somewhere. Just randomly teleports somewhere. No ?fluffernutter?ing clue where it will land. Push button, no marker business, just goes somewhere >.> Now get the ?fluffernutter? out of my face! Coming from someone who uses corrosion in half his hangars Itâs pretty 「fluffernutter」ing 「slow」. Maxed out corrosion does buffkiss to leeches. Let alone to 15 second whatever this nonsense is
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Post by linearblade on May 10, 2020 7:44:49 GMT -5
The Phantom was weird/bad at first but I considered how you need to forge ahead and can teleport backwards. And then I was like, "Yeah, I can live with that." Being able to spring ahead 500m and spring back will very likely be the new meta. Will I get one? Probably. But I already have a 2.12 Ares that I haven't used in months. I'm gonna hang back and see where the meta is really going. Ravana? Scorpion? This will probably be 「slow」. 2 medium and 1 light on a Nightingale, that likely has a few seconds of suppress on you is already hard hitting. Now make it 15 seconds add a dot, and some backdoor damage.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 10, 2020 7:54:42 GMT -5
The Phantom was weird/bad at first but I considered how you need to forge ahead and can teleport backwards. And then I was like, "Yeah, I can live with that." Being able to spring ahead 500m and spring back will very likely be the new meta. Will I get one? Probably. But I already have a 2.12 Ares that I haven't used in months. I'm gonna hang back and see where the meta is really going. Ravana? Scorpion? This will probably be ?slow?. 2 medium and 1 light on a Nightingale, that likely has a few seconds of suppress on you is already hard hitting. Now make it 15 seconds add a dot, and some backdoor damage. Well, it will certainly be "interesting" to see unfold. I thought the uber wallet warriors were gonna force me outta the game, Hasn't happened. And the top S clans will all run 5 Scorpions for a couple months until they get nerfed. OK. I survived the plague of the Ares, Leech, French AM, and now maybe the Scorpion. Ok.
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Post by RightOn on May 10, 2020 8:01:14 GMT -5
This will probably be ?slow?. 2 medium and 1 light on a Nightingale, that likely has a few seconds of suppress on you is already hard hitting. Now make it 15 seconds add a dot, and some backdoor damage. Well, it will certainly be "interesting" to see unfold. I thought the uber wallet warriors were gonna force me outta the game, Hasn't happened. And the top S clans will all run 5 Scorpions for a couple months until they get nerfed. OK. I survived the plague of the Ares, Leech, French AM, and now maybe the Scorpion. Ok. IDK man, it's only gotten worse. First came dash and cocktrain. Then mk「dookie」 and sphinctre. Then came modules and pilots. Then came purple panties. Then came BJs. Then came 「rooster」 suckers. Then came phannys. Then came Minges. Now combine EVERYTHING above and you have cornyo.
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Post by linearblade on May 10, 2020 9:17:56 GMT -5
This will probably be ?slow?. 2 medium and 1 light on a Nightingale, that likely has a few seconds of suppress on you is already hard hitting. Now make it 15 seconds add a dot, and some backdoor damage. Well, it will certainly be "interesting" to see unfold. I thought the uber wallet warriors were gonna force me outta the game, Hasn't happened. And the top S clans will all run 5 Scorpions for a couple months until they get nerfed. OK. I survived the plague of the Ares, Leech, French AM, and now maybe the Scorpion. Ok. All I can say is my spending has gone way down since ares / jun. Sure there’s been spikes but basically nothing like before
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 10, 2020 9:24:40 GMT -5
Well, it will certainly be "interesting" to see unfold. I thought the uber wallet warriors were gonna force me outta the game, Hasn't happened. And the top S clans will all run 5 Scorpions for a couple months until they get nerfed. OK. I survived the plague of the Ares, Leech, French AM, and now maybe the Scorpion. Ok. All I can say is my spending has gone way down since ares / jun. Sure there’s been spikes but basically nothing like before My spending is way down too and I'm having fun.
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Post by linearblade on May 10, 2020 9:30:42 GMT -5
All I can say is my spending has gone way down since ares / jun. Sure thereâs been spikes but basically nothing like before My spending is way down too and I'm having fun. Yea, after I said 「fluffernutter」 it, ima beat all these meta bot losers with legacy some more. I felt a lot better. Maybe itâs because I grew up on dnd and such, but paying to win a game just feels wrong.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 10, 2020 9:41:41 GMT -5
My spending is way down too and I'm having fun. Yea, after I said ?fluffernutter? it, ima beat all these meta bot losers with legacy some more. I felt a lot better. Maybe itâ??s because I grew up on dnd and such, but paying to win a game just feels wrong. I feel a little bad beating the AMs lately. They spent their money so they could dominate and sometimes they do and sometimes they def do not. All in all it's still quite fun in general so I still play.
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Post by linearblade on May 10, 2020 10:23:42 GMT -5
Yea, after I said ?fluffernutter? it, ima beat all these meta bot losers with legacy some more. I felt a lot better. Maybe itâ??s because I grew up on dnd and such, but paying to win a game just feels wrong. I feel a little bad beating the AMs lately. They spent their money so they could dominate and sometimes they do and sometimes they def do not. All in all it's still quite fun in general so I still play. Actually I like Ao Mings. I don’t find them broken. They don’t abuse game mechanics. Just big tanks. Cool can deal
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Post by mechtout on May 10, 2020 10:40:23 GMT -5
PB
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on May 10, 2020 11:12:30 GMT -5
This will probably be ?slow?. 2 medium and 1 light on a Nightingale, that likely has a few seconds of suppress on you is already hard hitting. Now make it 15 seconds add a dot, and some backdoor damage. Well, it will certainly be "interesting" to see unfold. I thought the uber wallet warriors were gonna force me outta the game, Hasn't happened. And the top S clans will all run 5 Scorpions for a couple months until they get nerfed. OK. I survived the plague of the Ares, Leech, French AM, and now maybe the Scorpion. Ok. The question is never really "can I survive xyz?" It's always about "do I want to fight these things basically every game?" I thought the Leech and Ao Jun meta would 100% push me and my hanger out of Champions League. If not them, then definitely Titans which can one shot my Carnys. But that never happened. Only when I started running stupid builds like Chimera Carny did I drop to Masters League. Don't expect to get pushed out of Champions League ever, especially if you're running a somewhat meta hanger.
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Post by NexusBlade on May 10, 2020 14:27:37 GMT -5
Nothing new, we knew this would happen, it will happen again. End of story.
Personally I'm playing a lot of Call of Duty Mobile lately, been having a blast, skill expression isn't just possible it's the entire point, if you want to buy power and start seal clubbing it is not the game for you, Oh and did I mention it has a mech suit? The XS-1 Goliath.
If you're looking for a better game, there is one, play it.
I play a game on War Robots every now and then for the heck of it but this game is more and more becoming an afterthought.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 23:36:20 GMT -5
This will probably be ?slow?. 2 medium and 1 light on a Nightingale, that likely has a few seconds of suppress on you is already hard hitting. Now make it 15 seconds add a dot, and some backdoor damage. Well, it will certainly be "interesting" to see unfold. I thought the uber wallet warriors were gonna force me outta the game, Hasn't happened. And the top S clans will all run 5 Scorpions for a couple months until they get nerfed. OK. I survived the plague of the Ares, Leech, French AM, and now maybe the Scorpion. Ok. Same. I can beat all the BS people here complain about here with Level 9 non-META bots. Maybe I'm just getting tired, or the toxicity here (that I try not to add to) has been slowly poisoning me, but I just don't feel like dealing with it anymore.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 11, 2020 6:51:07 GMT -5
Well, it will certainly be "interesting" to see unfold. I thought the uber wallet warriors were gonna force me outta the game, Hasn't happened. And the top S clans will all run 5 Scorpions for a couple months until they get nerfed. OK. I survived the plague of the Ares, Leech, French AM, and now maybe the Scorpion. Ok. Same. I can beat all the BS people here complain about here with Level 9 non-META bots. Maybe I'm just getting tired, or the toxicity here (that I try not to add to) has been slowly poisoning me, but I just don't feel like dealing with it anymore. Ignore the toxic, hang out with the constructive. :-)
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 8:44:33 GMT -5
I feel a little bad beating the AMs lately. They spent their money so they could dominate and sometimes they do and sometimes they def do not. All in all it's still quite fun in general so I still play. Actually I like Ao Mings. I don’t find them broken. They don’t abuse game mechanics. Just big tanks. Cool can deal They turn the game into complete farce, because people just stand there and trade fire. Bots like leech and scorpion break the game. With titans/ Mings there is no game.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 8:58:49 GMT -5
Actually I like Ao Mings. I don’t find them broken. They don’t abuse game mechanics. Just big tanks. Cool can deal They turn the game into complete farce, because people just stand there and trade fire. Bots like leech and scorpion break the game. With titans/ Mings there is no game. Of course there is a game, silly! Been playing it for many years, lol! Titans make the War Robots world go around!
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