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Post by Cyclone Nodens on May 22, 2020 13:00:10 GMT -5
I completely disagree with Kang Strong, Kyle Rogers and Cormac de Vos. Kang Strong gives Dragon Fangs the NEEDED extra damage, and the same thing with Cormac: It gives Falcon(especially T-Falcon) that extra needed attack. Kyle Rogers is not completely bad, I mean, it's an adamant mechanic instead of mechanic. Is he worth it? I don't think so, but if you have spare gold you could, its not entirely bad.
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Post by iwantdifferentnkname on May 24, 2020 12:20:09 GMT -5
I wanted to know if "C" pilots are worth it or not.
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Post by 6kings7 on May 24, 2020 12:26:43 GMT -5
Excellent assessment. BOTTOM LINE: Many Legendary Pilots are NOT all that Legendary - and some are just plain OP. Very Pix SOP actually. I always wonder what they are thinking when they make some of these decisions that seem so obviously off. Or maybe its just another cash grab?
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Post by iwantdifferentnkname on May 25, 2020 12:27:51 GMT -5
Excellent assessment. BOTTOM LINE: Many Legendary Pilots are NOT all that Legendary - and some are just plain OP. Very Pix SOP actually. I always wonder what they are thinking when they make some of these decisions that seem so obviously off. Or maybe its just another cash grab? True
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Post by Munki on May 28, 2020 11:49:39 GMT -5
IMHO, Legendary Pilot pilots should have an additional "skill". The Legendary Pilot skill would be just an enhancement with the ability to still learn 7 regular skills. Then, all of them would be "worth it". As it stands now, if you have a level 70 pilot on a bot and a Legendary Pilot then comes out for it down the line, many would not take the time and Au expense to level up the Legendary Pilot pilot to replace the regular pilot.
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Post by themandalorian on May 29, 2020 1:34:53 GMT -5
So glancing over this thread I don’t see a Clive Vicious rated here. He the Blitz pilot that decreases damage with its special ability and increases the duration. I’m running a lvl9 Ardent Blitz with 2xblaze 2xspark.
I’m curious to know how he ranks on this list. At this point, I don’t really like this bot. I can get to a beacon at the beginning fast, but it rare to catch a second bc it still so slow compared to Pursuer/Phamtoms. Not taking damage is great in a brawl, but the bot isn’t a brawler. I further don’t see the extra damage occurring to nearby enemy bots either. Maybe I’m not using it right or maybe it just a weak combo.
Any thoughts grades on Clive in Blitz?
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Post by seanh on May 29, 2020 3:51:50 GMT -5
So glancing over this thread I don’t see a Clive Vicious rated here. He the Blitz pilot that decreases damage with its special ability and increases the duration. I’m running a lvl9 Ardent Blitz with 2xblaze 2xspark. I’m curious to know how he ranks on this list. At this point, I don’t really like this bot. I can get to a beacon at the beginning fast, but it rare to catch a second bc it still so slow compared to Pursuer/Phamtoms. Not taking damage is great in a brawl, but the bot isn’t a brawler. I further don’t see the extra damage occurring to nearby enemy bots either. Maybe I’m not using it right or maybe it just a weak combo. Any thoughts grades on Clive in Blitz? Oh he would be an A, no doubt.
He has changed that bot completely and put it firmly in the top tier meta.
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Post by themandalorian on May 29, 2020 22:20:12 GMT -5
So glancing over this thread I don’t see a Clive Vicious rated here. He the Blitz pilot that decreases damage with its special ability and increases the duration. I’m running a lvl9 Ardent Blitz with 2xblaze 2xspark. I’m curious to know how he ranks on this list. At this point, I don’t really like this bot. I can get to a beacon at the beginning fast, but it rare to catch a second bc it still so slow compared to Pursuer/Phamtoms. Not taking damage is great in a brawl, but the bot isn’t a brawler. I further don’t see the extra damage occurring to nearby enemy bots either. Maybe I’m not using it right or maybe it just a weak combo. Any thoughts grades on Clive in Blitz? Oh he would be an A, no doubt.
He has changed that bot completely and put it firmly in the top tier meta.
Thanks for the input. Can you be specific? Maybe I need better weps but I really just use it as a beacon rusher and an “expendable” one at that. I might get two beacons if lucky. Once in a while I’ll get a couple kills, but really its hit or miss. It’s just too slow to get close as a brawler, unless you active late the ability. But from a distance it’s 3 shots power is reduced. Then the 20 second recharge period and slow movement make it a liability when it blows its wad. What am I missing?
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Post by seanh on May 30, 2020 4:52:25 GMT -5
themandalorian, I wouldn't hold myself out as being the definitive authority on piloting a Clive Blitz, but I tell you what works for me. A few random points: - Every time I turn the ability on something dies. On a good day many somethings die. There is nothing it can't take down on the righ situation, although Arthurs shields cause me some difficulties. And high level T falcons, just take too long. Avoid Leaches that see you coming and can get their leeching on. - This things is a predator, it kills stuff, that is pretty much all it does, but does it really really well. - It's ability blast supresses the red you hit with those blasts for 5 seconds give you a huge DR bonus for 9 seconds and increases you speed, to the level of ludicrous. That means for 9 seconds you are almost invulnerable,and can run really fast. Outside of that you are slow and weak. So don't be out in the open what that 9 seconds runs out. - some other skill or module that give you a get out of jail free card is really useful. Be that a high level last stand, the skill that reactivates the ability below a certain HP, phase shift. Whatever you can do to get you out of a bad pinch until you can use the ability again. - Titans have anti DR, so be carful around them. - You need weapons that can utilise that short 9 second window to do a horrific level of damage. I have levelled up Mags, but Rimes, Sparks, Shredders all do the job. - When you are in it you are only thinking about killing something (many somethings). Its all about picking the target and getting the approach and setup right. Stay in cover, don't let them know what you are, or even better that you are there at all. - Bots with high DR or maxed last stands are not ideal, hard to kill in one sitting, you need to take a few bites. - If there is more than one red, supress the one you are not planning on killing first. He hill be shooting you the longest so supress him, kill the other one and then go after him. - Never stop, you are always moving fast to a place of safety, killing stuff on the way. Learn to shoot running backwards, it helps. Lockdown and those freeze things are the a pain, they slow you down :-( - definitely not a beacon capper. I see folks try that all the time, doesn't work, it is just not what its for. - Not sure how long you have been playing but I would compare mine to what a Carnage used to be like back in the old old meta. - You spend most of your time stalking, hiding, then short flurries of other mayham. - my typical game would be mid game drop, when there is plenty going on around the map and you can surprise things. I am sure other will have thoughts, but that is mostly all I can think of. Hope it helps.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jul 15, 2020 7:50:31 GMT -5
Is Iskra the Legendary Pilot for Scorpion worth a hoot? Getting 5% damage back is something but it may be far cheaper to shift a leveled Adrian over...
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 15, 2020 12:57:38 GMT -5
Is Iskra the Legendary Pilot for Scorpion worth a hoot? Getting 5% damage back is something but it may be far cheaper to shift a leveled Adrian over... I'm not so sure moving a leveled pilot over is cheaper. I've got a level 60 Adrian pilot that I've considered switching. Switching 6 skills at 1750 Au is 10,500 to move and re-pick skills and rolling at this point is far less likely to be a less expensive option. I think a random spin here is 350 Au, so that mean you get 30 spins to get the 6 skills you want. It's not terrible odds, but it's not great. Still, worst case is 10,500. Add another 3000 Au to move all skills to T2 and another 6000 to go to T3 and now you're at 19,500. Super pricey. However, for the purposes of comparison, let's go with the 10,500 since the 9000 to get them all to T3 is the same regardless Let's compare starting from scratch with an Adrian pilot. Level 1, 2 and 3 are all likely cheaper to spin randomly to get a skill you want, but it's hard to quantify that, so I'll just assign a number to it that seems conservative. 60% of the picked-skill cost for each of those and full cost for levels 4, 5 and 6. That said, cost will be as follows. Base - 2500 hire price Level 1 - 600 random skill Level 2 - 500 promote, 660 random skill Level 3 - 1000 promote, 750 random skill Level 4 - 1500 promote, 1400 picked skill Level 5 - 2000 promote, 1500 picked skill Level 6 - 2500 promote, 1750 picked skill Total - 14160 Au to start from scratchI guess you're right, it's likely still more cost effective to move an Adrian over from another bot. I say likely because with rolls on a new pilots, you could "get lucky" and have a chance to randomly get a higher level skill you want which would save you the cost of upgrading. You're not likely to get that if you move him. The question then becomes, do you think you'll need Adrian again on the bot you're using, because you can't move him back if you don't like it. There's the rub. Now, if you're switching a level 70 pilot, the costs are 14,000 to move and pick and 19,160 to start from scratch. I guess the pattern still holds ultimately. Regardless, it's freaking expensive anyway you shake it.
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Post by hi5 on Jul 15, 2020 13:10:31 GMT -5
Is Iskra the Legendary Pilot for Scorpion worth a hoot? Getting 5% damage back is something but it may be far cheaper to shift a leveled Adrian over... I'm not so sure moving a leveled pilot over is cheaper. I've got a level 60 Adrian pilot that I've considered switching. Switching 6 skills at 1750 Au is 10,500 to move and re-pick skills and rolling at this point is far less likely to be a less expensive option. I think a random spin here is 350 Au, so that mean you get 30 spins to get the 6 skills you want. It's not terrible odds, but it's not great. Still, worst case is 10,500. Add another 3000 Au to move all skills to T2 and another 6000 to go to T3 and now you're at 19,500. Super pricey. However, for the purposes of comparison, let's go with the 10,500 since the 9000 to get them all to T3 is the same regardless Let's compare starting from scratch with an Adrian pilot. Level 1, 2 and 3 are all likely cheaper to spin randomly to get a skill you want, but it's hard to quantify that, so I'll just assign a number to it that seems conservative. 60% of the picked-skill cost for each of those and full cost for levels 4, 5 and 6. That said, cost will be as follows. Base - 2500 hire price Level 1 - 600 random skill Level 2 - 500 promote, 660 random skill Level 3 - 1000 promote, 750 random skill Level 4 - 1500 promote, 1400 picked skill Level 5 - 2000 promote, 1500 picked skill Level 6 - 2500 promote, 1750 picked skill Total - 14160 Au to start from scratchI guess you're right, it's likely still more cost effective to move an Adrian over from another bot. I say likely because with rolls on a new pilots, you could "get lucky" and have a chance to randomly get a higher level skill you want which would save you the cost of upgrading. You're not likely to get that if you move him. The question then becomes, do you think you'll need Adrian again on the bot you're using, because you can't move him back if you don't like it. There's the rub. Now, if you're switching a level 70 pilot, the costs are 14,000 to move and pick and 19,160 to start from scratch. I guess the pattern still holds ultimately. Regardless, it's freaking expensive anyway you shake it. All. That. Gold. Daaaaaaaaaum.
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 15, 2020 13:11:19 GMT -5
I'm not so sure moving a leveled pilot over is cheaper. I've got a level 60 Adrian pilot that I've considered switching. Switching 6 skills at 1750 Au is 10,500 to move and re-pick skills and rolling at this point is far less likely to be a less expensive option. I think a random spin here is 350 Au, so that mean you get 30 spins to get the 6 skills you want. It's not terrible odds, but it's not great. Still, worst case is 10,500. Add another 3000 Au to move all skills to T2 and another 6000 to go to T3 and now you're at 19,500. Super pricey. However, for the purposes of comparison, let's go with the 10,500 since the 9000 to get them all to T3 is the same regardless Let's compare starting from scratch with an Adrian pilot. Level 1, 2 and 3 are all likely cheaper to spin randomly to get a skill you want, but it's hard to quantify that, so I'll just assign a number to it that seems conservative. 60% of the picked-skill cost for each of those and full cost for levels 4, 5 and 6. That said, cost will be as follows. Base - 2500 hire price Level 1 - 600 random skill Level 2 - 500 promote, 660 random skill Level 3 - 1000 promote, 750 random skill Level 4 - 1500 promote, 1400 picked skill Level 5 - 2000 promote, 1500 picked skill Level 6 - 2500 promote, 1750 picked skill Total - 14160 Au to start from scratchI guess you're right, it's likely still more cost effective to move an Adrian over from another bot. I say likely because with rolls on a new pilots, you could "get lucky" and have a chance to randomly get a higher level skill you want which would save you the cost of upgrading. You're not likely to get that if you move him. The question then becomes, do you think you'll need Adrian again on the bot you're using, because you can't move him back if you don't like it. There's the rub. Now, if you're switching a level 70 pilot, the costs are 14,000 to move and pick and 19,160 to start from scratch. I guess the pattern still holds ultimately. Regardless, it's freaking expensive anyway you shake it. All. That. Gold. Daaaaaaaaaum.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jul 15, 2020 13:32:29 GMT -5
Is Iskra the Legendary Pilot for Scorpion worth a hoot? Getting 5% damage back is something but it may be far cheaper to shift a leveled Adrian over... I'm not so sure moving a leveled pilot over is cheaper. I've got a level 60 Adrian pilot that I've considered switching. Switching 6 skills at 1750 Au is 10,500 to move and re-pick skills and rolling at this point is far less likely to be a less expensive option. I think a random spin here is 350 Au, so that mean you get 30 spins to get the 6 skills you want. It's not terrible odds, but it's not great. Still, worst case is 10,500. Add another 3000 Au to move all skills to T2 and another 6000 to go to T3 and now you're at 19,500. Super pricey. However, for the purposes of comparison, let's go with the 10,500 since the 9000 to get them all to T3 is the same regardless Let's compare starting from scratch with an Adrian pilot. Level 1, 2 and 3 are all likely cheaper to spin randomly to get a skill you want, but it's hard to quantify that, so I'll just assign a number to it that seems conservative. 60% of the picked-skill cost for each of those and full cost for levels 4, 5 and 6. That said, cost will be as follows. Base - 2500 hire price Level 1 - 600 random skill Level 2 - 500 promote, 660 random skill Level 3 - 1000 promote, 750 random skill Level 4 - 1500 promote, 1400 picked skill Level 5 - 2000 promote, 1500 picked skill Level 6 - 2500 promote, 1750 picked skill Total - 14160 Au to start from scratchI guess you're right, it's likely still more cost effective to move an Adrian over from another bot. I say likely because with rolls on a new pilots, you could "get lucky" and have a chance to randomly get a higher level skill you want which would save you the cost of upgrading. You're not likely to get that if you move him. The question then becomes, do you think you'll need Adrian again on the bot you're using, because you can't move him back if you don't like it. There's the rub. Now, if you're switching a level 70 pilot, the costs are 14,000 to move and pick and 19,160 to start from scratch. I guess the pattern still holds ultimately. Regardless, it's freaking expensive anyway you shake it. Thanks, I was shooting from the hip but you did the math. Well done.
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Post by Adazahi on Jul 15, 2020 13:54:27 GMT -5
What you guys thinking about the crazy blitz pilot? Baby leech, anyone?
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Post by papadobeck on Jul 22, 2020 20:50:29 GMT -5
All the legendary pilots are better now. Pretty much no matter what the legendary skill is, its an 8th skill and they get a 4th tier on skills.
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Post by dakarsis on Aug 6, 2020 16:58:34 GMT -5
Operation Thunderous Roar Legendary Pilot Isabella Porter: AD Gaming put up a YouTube video showing how she wasn't working properly, in fact, his demonstration showed nearly no redirected damage. Has anyone else seen this behavior? She's a better Leech pilot than Mindread IF she works. I am near to completing the Operation and she's free, but wouldn't use a broken Legendary Pilot.
Thoughts? Rumor? News?
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Apr 3, 2021 17:59:15 GMT -5
The release of the new Demeter pilot would surely put it at number 1 on the list now.
Maybe this thread should be un stickied since it does not get any updates?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 10:39:40 GMT -5
R2D2 already nerfed.....not #1 anymore......
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Post by shivaswrath on Jun 27, 2021 21:59:43 GMT -5
Agreed this went to 💩
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Aug 12, 2021 14:56:35 GMT -5
OK, well let's have the community update this, we can all chime-in. 079 your input would be nice, THANKS! :-) Which pilots are missing? Fafnir x 2 Strider Behemoth Fenrir (Bernadette) Demeter x 2 Typhon Hades ? ? ? ? Help providing the names of these pilots (and more?) would be great, thanks! Loganspawn , BB
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Post by BB on Aug 12, 2021 15:33:17 GMT -5
OK, well let's have the community update this, we can all chime-in. 079 your input would be nice, THANKS! :-) Which pilots are missing? Fafnir x 2 Strider Behemoth Fenrir (Bernadette) Demeter x 2 Typhon Hades ? ? ? ? Help providing the names of these pilots (and more?) would be great, thanks! Loganspawn , BB Wish I could help, but I’m a plain old vanilla pudding pilot guy. Only legend pilot in my hangar is Santa on my rarely used Fenrir. And we all know what a jolly guy he is. IMO the Strider legend pilot is very meh, and I cant be bothered tbh.
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Post by 079 on Aug 12, 2021 18:18:04 GMT -5
OK, well let's have the community update this, we can all chime-in. 079 your input would be nice, THANKS! :-) Which pilots are missing? Fafnir x 2 Strider Behemoth Fenrir (Bernadette) Demeter x 2 Typhon Hades ? ? ? ? Help providing the names of these pilots (and more?) would be great, thanks! Loganspawn , BB Here are all the pilots that do not have an entry: APPM-3TR (Demeter) Midea Nerium (DOTs) Raphael Petit (Flames) It is also worth looking over the current ratings for pilots and changing anything that is no longer accurate. I have a few of pilots described above so I will be able to submit my thoughts on them, but unfortunately I do not have a ton of time today to do so, but I should be able to tomorrow or over the weekend. I’ll update this list (remove pilots) as their entires get added for convenience.
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Post by heavypiece on Aug 12, 2021 20:21:48 GMT -5
I recently acquired this pilot: I had a couple of Dragon Blazes and a regular blaze. Then I pulled another blaze out of one of the boxes. So I dropped some silver on a GI Patton, bought a new skin for it and now I have this: lots of fun setting the fancy new bots on fire.
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Post by 079 on Aug 12, 2021 20:30:15 GMT -5
I recently acquired this pilot: I had a couple of Dragon Blazes and a regular blaze. Then I pulled another blaze out of one of the boxes. So I dropped some silver on a GI Patton, bought a new skin for it and now I have this: lots of fun setting the fancy new bots on fire. Tell us how the pilot is if you can, that way we can give a rating on him!
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Aug 18, 2021 9:50:15 GMT -5
OK, well let's have the community update this, we can all chime-in. 079 your input would be nice, THANKS! :-) Which pilots are missing? Fafnir x 2 Strider Behemoth Fenrir (Bernadette) Demeter x 2 Typhon Hades ? ? ? ? Help providing the names of these pilots (and more?) would be great, thanks! Loganspawn , BB Here are all the pilots that do not have an entry currently: Lilian Statera (Hades) Clive Vicious (Blitz) Arnav Poe (Ravana) Iskra (Scorpion) Alexander Frost (Cerberus) Chester Coen (Loki) Isabella Porter (Leech) Maya Patel (Nightingale) Ash Skarsgard (Scorpion) Kyle Rogers (Hawk) Alex Werner (Jaeger) Johnny (Hawk) Louis Duncan (Typhoon) Linda Cano (Shell) Sam Stone (EMGs) Jerry Fortune (Demeter) Boris Crow (Cerberus) Rose Lin (Typhoon) APPM-3TR (Demeter) Andrey Kvasov (Behemoth) “Ghost” (Orochi) Midea Nerium (DOTs) Johanna Flynn (Fafnir) Jack Moore (Strider) Dew Tompkins (Shell) Manni (Universal) Raphael Petit (Flames) It is also worth looking over the current ratings for pilots and changing anything that is no longer accurate. I have a few of pilots described above so I will be able to submit my thoughts on them, but unfortunately I do not have a ton of time today to do so, but I should be able to tomorrow or over the weekend. I’ll update this list (remove pilots) as their entires get added for convenience. Look at the OP in this thread. In progress. THANKS!
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Post by Jeb on Aug 18, 2021 9:55:02 GMT -5
I recently acquired this pilot: I had a couple of Dragon Blazes and a regular blaze. Then I pulled another blaze out of one of the boxes. So I dropped some silver on a GI Patton, bought a new skin for it and now I have this: lots of fun setting the fancy new bots on fire. I've got him and a pair of Freedom Igniters on a 2.12 Rogatka for the same reason.
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Post by 079 on Aug 18, 2021 19:50:51 GMT -5
Oliver Kloesov I have updated my list, good job on getting the new entries up! I would just day that for your entries on Sam Stone, Alex Werner, and the two Cerberus pilots, you gave them lower ratings because of the viability of the equipment they effect. The op said that it would judge the pilots solely on how good they are with their equipment and not take the equipment’s actual viability into account, so some correction is needed there. Personally, I would say Alexander Frost is an A, Boris Crow is a B, Alex Werner is a B, and Sam Stone is a B.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 20:25:03 GMT -5
Oliver Kloesov I have updated my list, good job on getting the new entries up! I would just day that for your entries on Sam Stone, Alex Werner, and the two Cerberus pilots, you gave them lower ratings because of the viability of the equipment they effect. The op said that it would judge the pilots solely on how good they are with their equipment and not take the equipment’s actual viability into account, so some correction is needed there. Personally, I would say Alexander Frost is an A, Boris Crow is a B, Alex Werner is a B, and Sam Stone is a B. What about the Bully pilot? The max is 40% reduction in cool down of active module. Pair it with On Module Use : Heal Defense Damage and that is one sick bot! I rate pilot at least B.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Aug 24, 2021 3:39:45 GMT -5
Oliver Kloesov I have updated my list, good job on getting the new entries up! I would just day that for your entries on Sam Stone, Alex Werner, and the two Cerberus pilots, you gave them lower ratings because of the viability of the equipment they effect. The op said that it would judge the pilots solely on how good they are with their equipment and not take the equipment’s actual viability into account, so some correction is needed there. Personally, I would say Alexander Frost is an A, Boris Crow is a B, Alex Werner is a B, and Sam Stone is a B. What about the Bully pilot? The max is 40% reduction in cool down of active module. Pair it with On Module Use : Heal Defense Damage and that is one sick bot! I rate pilot at least B. Relies too much on power cell usage when other pilots have excellent abilities straight out the box. I have been using my bully again in Champions League as it works well against froodles weapons, I'd love a pilot that turns the aegis into a cerberus/typhon auto replenishing one.
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