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Post by Koko Bop on Mar 26, 2020 11:02:46 GMT -5
With my recently upgraded Ag generation, I find I have an unexpected lot of silver - enough to bring one L9 to 10 & still have ‘seed money’. 36mil I can cover once (now). My contestants are Ao Jun, Tyr, and Cthulhu. The question is: which of these will benefit the most from the upgrade? Detail pics for each are below with my assessments, and thank y’all in advance for your input! (General observations and recommendations are welcome, too) Tyr is the strongest, if not the most powerful: his pilot is highly trained. Game logic impels giving it the boost. Ao Jun is fastest, most dangerous, weakest in the sense that a bad landing is almost instantly fatal: game logic ditto. Ares....fastest over ground, but weak except for ‘retribution’, fewest pilot skills but no more gold for those.... ALSO...if there’s a thread that skills users on adding pix to posts, please point me to it; it seems simple, but I have no idea how to put the pic where I want it without fiddly copypasta again and again....
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Post by 7Chandrian on Mar 26, 2020 11:10:22 GMT -5
I vote Tyr.
There are plenty of AJs out there and a level or two wont help the durability or drangonbreath that much.
Ares will fill his midrange lockdown role acceptably at level 9.
More healing helps your team win, and healing honor will improve your place on the team win or lose, Tyr FTW
Edit, Also, those fortifies do nothing on Ares, might as well put them on Tyr as well.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 26, 2020 11:11:44 GMT -5
I think you get the most benefit from Tyr since the Healing is directly related to your Hitpoints total... but I also just like the bot and am completely biased.
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Post by Koko Bop on Mar 26, 2020 11:31:47 GMT -5
Tyr is, frankly, my favorite bot: I was inclined toward it from the start, but as I’m still new to the others, I didn’t want to miss a bet and face regret....
‘Preciate the tip on the fortifiers, too...one of my favorite uses for them is on Raijin, believe it or not - gotta boost that shield!
Thanks so much, y’all -
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Post by 7Chandrian on Mar 26, 2020 11:34:49 GMT -5
Tyr is, frankly, my favorite bot: I was inclined toward it from the start, but as I’m still new to the others, I didn’t want to miss a bet and face regret.... ‘Preciate the tip on the fortifiers, too...one of my favorite uses for them is on Raijin, believe it or not - gotta boost that shield! Thanks so much, y’all - I would say save up for Sigrun, but your Tyr pilot has the best name I have seen the RNG spit out.
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Post by RightOn on Mar 26, 2020 11:36:42 GMT -5
Save the silver...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 11:53:52 GMT -5
Bots like Fenrir and Bully get more bang for the Ag buck...but, will it make much difference? A 1.12 hangar will then lead to the horrors of grinding out for a 2.12 hangar.....and Titans kill um dead anyways.....
Most of my bots are L9, and I just can’t seem to pull the trigger to spend more on them. I do take my weapons to L10, though, and maybe beyond....those might actually do some good.....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 11:57:59 GMT -5
Tyr is, frankly, my favorite bot: I was inclined toward it from the start, but as I’m still new to the others, I didn’t want to miss a bet and face regret.... ‘Preciate the tip on the fortifiers, too...one of my favorite uses for them is on Raijin, believe it or not - gotta boost that shield! Thanks so much, y’all - I would say save up for Sigrun, but your Tyr pilot has the best name I have seen the RNG spit out. Lol....my best two pilots..... And, yes...I have a wang fang, too....lol
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Post by Munki on Mar 26, 2020 12:15:08 GMT -5
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Post by Koko Bop on Mar 26, 2020 12:15:31 GMT -5
Tyr is, frankly, my favorite bot: I was inclined toward it from the start, but as I’m still new to the others, I didn’t want to miss a bet and face regret.... ‘Preciate the tip on the fortifiers, too...one of my favorite uses for them is on Raijin, believe it or not - gotta boost that shield! Thanks so much, y’all - I would say save up for Sigrun, but your Tyr pilot has the best name I have seen the RNG spit out. Sigrun is piloting my *other* Tyr (6)...and I don’t DO duplicates...looking forward to being able to drop *both* & see what happens.... Surprised that the Fortis don’t help the purple shield, but surprise happens a lot.
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Post by Munki on Mar 26, 2020 12:18:09 GMT -5
I would say save up for Sigrun, but your Tyr pilot has the best name I have seen the RNG spit out. Sigrun is piloting my *other* Tyr (6)...and I don’t DO duplicates...looking forward to being able to drop *both* & see what happens.... Surprised that the Fortis don’t help the purple shield, but surprise happens a lot. Can't boost infinity.
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Post by no pain 80 on Mar 26, 2020 12:26:31 GMT -5
I say your bots are just fine as they are. I suggest you either save your Ag or keep upgrading your avengers if you havent already mk2 maxed them out.
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Post by Desc440 on Mar 26, 2020 12:30:51 GMT -5
Definitely Tyr: -More healing. -More health that can be self-repaired. -More shield.
Ares and Jun really only benefit from the increased ability damage.
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Post by reconnecting on Mar 26, 2020 14:32:03 GMT -5
More healing is good. Tyr. That being said, upgrading weapons will give you the best bang for your buck at this point.
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Post by Koko Bop on Mar 26, 2020 15:46:43 GMT -5
Understand about the trade-off between bot levels and weapon levels.
Two of my six Avengers are mk2, as are 2 Tempest, 4 Scourge, and 4 Puns-T. Next to level/mk2: 4 Stings, 4 Puns, 3 Vipers, 4 Avengers. 3 Wasps, 4 Pulsars, 4 Sparks, 3 Calamities, 4 Cryo, 5 Rimes - that’ll all have to wait.
If anyone has recommendations regarding premium modules, I’d love to hear ‘em: I have 2 Last Stands, 2 Fortifiers, 2 Anti-Control, 1 Thermonuclear Reactor - all stock; help me find them rides?
Really appreciate all the input...it helps!
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Post by Deadeye on Mar 26, 2020 15:50:29 GMT -5
Same here, go with Tyr. Others have said why and I have nothing to add. I also second adding switching a fortifier over to the Tyr. Also, level one of them up. They are premium modules, but cost half what the best costs. 20 Ag/ level. At level 1, you'd probably just be better off having all armor kits instead.
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Post by 7Chandrian on Mar 26, 2020 15:53:14 GMT -5
Understand about the trade-off between bot levels and weapon levels. Two of my six Avengers are mk2, as are 2 Tempest, 4 Scourge, and 4 Puns-T. Next to level/mk2: 4 Stings, 4 Puns, 3 Vipers, 4 Avengers. 3 Wasps, 4 Pulsars, 4 Sparks, 3 Calamities, 4 Cryo, 5 Rimes - that’ll all have to wait. If anyone has recommendations regarding premium modules, I’d love to hear ‘em: I have 2 Last Stands, 2 Fortifiers, 2 Anti-Control, 1 Thermonuclear Reactor - all stock; help me find them rides? Really appreciate all the input...it helps! Do you have your current hangar posted somewhere?
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Post by Koko Bop on Mar 26, 2020 16:14:59 GMT -5
Tyr is rising *now*...1/3 done, actually.
The fortifier sez 10% boost to physical shield, so that’s TWO max AKs, isn’t it? Not quibbling, I know Pix does screwy stuff - I just want to understand better if I can. Both of them do pretty well on Fenrir (9)...but Fen is still a project....
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Post by Koko Bop on Mar 26, 2020 16:20:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deadeye on Mar 26, 2020 16:40:25 GMT -5
Tyr is rising *now*...1/3 done, actually. The fortifier sez 10% boost to physical shield, so that’s TWO max AKs, isn’t it? Not quibbling, I know Pix does screwy stuff - I just want to understand better if I can. Both of them do pretty well on Fenrir (9)...but Fen is still a project.... It depends how strong the physical (or electrical or Aegis) shield is. Generally speaking, the Fortifier helps energy shields more than physical ones because many of them regenerate and they not only buff the durability of the shield, but the regeneration rate too. Secondarily, the physical shield buff goes away when the durability is reduced to 0. However, this does prevent any damage to your actual bot durability, which is the point. Still, the Physical shield won't help against splash. It's up to you, but 10% is probably not enough to offset the 5% bump to your robot durability (plus the increased heals of having higher durability). Now, if you were to upgrade the Fortifier to max, then it would give you a 25% boost to your shield. That's pretty nice and might be worth it over 5% health. At level 1.9, your physical shield would then go from 128k to 160k.
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Post by 7Chandrian on Mar 26, 2020 17:01:02 GMT -5
Understand about the trade-off between bot levels and weapon levels. Two of my six Avengers are mk2, as are 2 Tempest, 4 Scourge, and 4 Puns-T. Next to level/mk2: 4 Stings, 4 Puns, 3 Vipers, 4 Avengers. 3 Wasps, 4 Pulsars, 4 Sparks, 3 Calamities, 4 Cryo, 5 Rimes - that’ll all have to wait. If anyone has recommendations regarding premium modules, I’d love to hear ‘em: I have 2 Last Stands, 2 Fortifiers, 2 Anti-Control, 1 Thermonuclear Reactor - all stock; help me find them rides? Really appreciate all the input...it helps! I feel like a used mech salesman at the end of the month right now, but you need a Bulwark. Best place for Fortifier since it help both shields, you've got plenty of heavy weapons, and you already know how to drive it. For now, I'd do fortifier on tyr and raijin, last stand on ares and maybe leo, anticontrol on tyr and Ao Jun, and Thermonuclear Reactor in AoJun.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Mar 26, 2020 18:21:36 GMT -5
Tyr is, frankly, my favorite bot: I was inclined toward it from the start, but as I’m still new to the others, I didn’t want to miss a bet and face regret.... ‘Preciate the tip on the fortifiers, too...one of my favorite uses for them is on Raijin, believe it or not - gotta boost that shield! Thanks so much, y’all - No matter what the other options you need to do your favorite bot. I choose my mercury and I can tell you this, it was the best choice I have ever made. Tyr may not be the best of those but it will damn well repay you in fun.
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Post by rags on Mar 26, 2020 19:40:25 GMT -5
Ao Jun and Ares are the last thing you need to upgrade. Ao Jun and pantheon can go deep into Champions League and do well at lvl 9.
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Post by Koko Bop on Mar 26, 2020 21:07:07 GMT -5
Tyr is rising *now*...1/3 done, actually. The fortifier sez 10% boost to physical shield, so that’s TWO max AKs, isn’t it? Not quibbling, I know Pix does screwy stuff - I just want to understand better if I can. Both of them do pretty well on Fenrir (9)...but Fen is still a project.... It depends how strong the physical (or electrical or Aegis) shield is. Generally speaking, the Fortifier helps energy shields more than physical ones because many of them regenerate and they not only buff the durability of the shield, but the regeneration rate too. Secondarily, the physical shield buff goes away when the durability is reduced to 0. However, this does prevent any damage to your actual bot durability, which is the point. Still, the Physical shield won't help against splash. It's up to you, but 10% is probably not enough to offset the 5% bump to your robot durability (plus the increased heals of having higher durability). Now, if you were to upgrade the Fortifier to max, then it would give you a 25% boost to your shield. That's pretty nice and might be worth it over 5% health. At level 1.9, your physical shield would then go from 128k to 160k. Thanks, that’s good stuff...let me pry further if I may, understanding that Tyr is about to be 136k...how does the fortifier stack with the various durability buffs (pilot skills), or does it even? I know I posted a pic of the pilot/skills, her name got called out. I would love to understand how all those buffs, etc overlap!
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Post by Koko Bop on Mar 26, 2020 21:17:14 GMT -5
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Post by Koko Bop on Mar 26, 2020 21:30:16 GMT -5
Bots like Fenrir and Bully get more bang for the Ag buck...but, will it make much difference? A 1.12 hangar will then lead to the horrors of grinding out for a 2.12 hangar.....and Titans kill um dead anyways..... Most of my bots are L9, and I just can’t seem to pull the trigger to spend more on them. I do take my weapons to L10, though, and maybe beyond....those might actually do some good. I get it, I’ve had a ton of bots @ 9 and below for quite awhile, been working on weapons...got to the point where the weapons are good enough, they just need to stay functional long enough to do their job. Tyr, for example, is about as bulletproof as I can make it without further upgrade, and I want it to last longer when I drop it. I imagine I could upgrade premium modules that would pump durability, but I just got to a point in the game where I don’t flinch at the thought of a 36,000,000 cost for a level - I am not prepared to start down the 40,000,000/lvl module path yet. Much more comfortable doing it this way. For now. Who knows. But it needs to last longer while I’m using it, so- here we are
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Post by rags on Mar 26, 2020 21:35:40 GMT -5
It depends how strong the physical (or electrical or Aegis) shield is. Generally speaking, the Fortifier helps energy shields more than physical ones because many of them regenerate and they not only buff the durability of the shield, but the regeneration rate too. Secondarily, the physical shield buff goes away when the durability is reduced to 0. However, this does prevent any damage to your actual bot durability, which is the point. Still, the Physical shield won't help against splash. It's up to you, but 10% is probably not enough to offset the 5% bump to your robot durability (plus the increased heals of having higher durability). Now, if you were to upgrade the Fortifier to max, then it would give you a 25% boost to your shield. That's pretty nice and might be worth it over 5% health. At level 1.9, your physical shield would then go from 128k to 160k. Thanks, that’s good stuff...let me pry further if I may, understanding that Tyr is about to be 136k...how does the fortifier stack with the various durability buffs (pilot skills), or does it even? I know I posted a pic of the pilot/skills, her name got called out. I would love to understand how all those buffs, etc overlap! It just buffs the physical shield
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Post by Koko Bop on Mar 26, 2020 21:43:16 GMT -5
Understand about the trade-off between bot levels and weapon levels. Two of my six Avengers are mk2, as are 2 Tempest, 4 Scourge, and 4 Puns-T. Next to level/mk2: 4 Stings, 4 Puns, 3 Vipers, 4 Avengers. 3 Wasps, 4 Pulsars, 4 Sparks, 3 Calamities, 4 Cryo, 5 Rimes - that’ll all have to wait. If anyone has recommendations regarding premium modules, I’d love to hear ‘em: I have 2 Last Stands, 2 Fortifiers, 2 Anti-Control, 1 Thermonuclear Reactor - all stock; help me find them rides? Really appreciate all the input...it helps! I feel like a used mech salesman at the end of the month right now, but you need a Bulwark. Best place for Fortifier since it help both shields, you've got plenty of heavy weapons, and you already know how to drive it. For now, I'd do fortifier on tyr and raijin, last stand on ares and maybe leo, anticontrol on tyr and Ao Jun, and Thermonuclear Reactor in AoJun. Bulwark is one of those Pix never threw at me.... almost all the bots I’ve had have been ‘winnings’ - just like all those heavies (though I got sick & tired of waiting & bought my first two from the bargain bin - after that, they gave me plenty)...I thought Bulwark would be great...but I don’t like bots SO SLOW, and I fought the idea of building one in WS until...I just forgot about it. Absolutely no experience driving one, but I imagine it compares to a Kid, speedwise? WS is currently grinding Shredder #3, BTW I will definitely run your suggestions on modules, thanks much for that
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Post by 7Chandrian on Mar 26, 2020 21:56:42 GMT -5
I feel like a used mech salesman at the end of the month right now, but you need a Bulwark. Best place for Fortifier since it help both shields, you've got plenty of heavy weapons, and you already know how to drive it. For now, I'd do fortifier on tyr and raijin, last stand on ares and maybe leo, anticontrol on tyr and Ao Jun, and Thermonuclear Reactor in AoJun. Bulwark is one of those Pix never threw at me.... almost all the bots I’ve had have been ‘winnings’ - just like all those heavies (though I got sick & tired of waiting & bought my first two from the bargain bin - after that, they gave me plenty)...I thought Bulwark would be great...but I don’t like bots SO SLOW, and I fought the idea of building one in WS until...I just forgot about it. Absolutely no experience driving one, but I imagine it compares to a Kid, speedwise? WS is currently grinding Shredder #3, BTW I will definitely run your suggestions on modules, thanks much for that If you can drive a Leo, you can drive a Bulwark, and it will feel like a sport car.
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Post by Koko Bop on Mar 26, 2020 22:08:38 GMT -5
Thanks, that’s good stuff...let me pry further if I may, understanding that Tyr is about to be 136k...how does the fortifier stack with the various durability buffs (pilot skills), or does it even? I know I posted a pic of the pilot/skills, her name got called out. I would love to understand how all those buffs, etc overlap! It just buffs the physical shield I’m sorry, I fumbled my question so bad even I don’t know what I was asking....
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