Looking for LR Loki advice

Against Titans I think Shredders are best. You’re not going to do enough damage with 3 lights but you can lock them down every 10 seconds from a relatively safe distance.

Arbalest are just too weak and I think kinda expensive to upgrade.

I’ve tried Gekkos and found them interesting. Mine are levels 11, 9, 8 mk1 and can do ok damage. Thinking about maxing them and trying again. But the play style is confounding. I tend to hang back and not pressure beacons but if I start going for beacons I’m reticent to pull out the lasers. Against Titans though Gekkos won’t do enough.

Molots I don’t know about.

If you’re specifically looking for something against Titans I recommend Shredders. I’ve run 3 level 8 mk1 and nearly always lock them down. Rime or Halo would be good too if you don’t mind getting closer.

Thanks for the reply.

I'm reluctant to go shredders with the 500m range.  I'll drop Arbalests from the list.

I'm not so much worried about the amount of damage per se.  I don't run titans.  The Loki is there to give me the option to grab beacons late in the game.  The question is whether or not to go Gekkos or Molots.  With the assumption that engagement is going to be at >600m, I'm looking for opinions on which of the two would work better.

Disco pattons used to be a thing, they weren't really a problem if you had a shield bot. My guess is titans wont really care unless you're running very high level stuff. If you run molots you'll just be another slug chucker, you'll attack other bots and you'll just be another red. If you run gekkos, you'll stand out and be that pesky sniper, most gekko bots camp on a hill but you'll have stealth I guess. Like an infiltrating sniper, getting easy kills behing enemy lines. It'll probably steal heaps of kills but Im not sure how much damage you'd do.

Edit: all the problems gekkos had related to how they recharged but that isn't really a problem for the loki, you can recharge while relocating to another beacon or vantage point. Use your burst damage and put your guns away and repeat. I don't know if the firing mechanics have changed while i was away but 3 years ago gekkos were a problem in lower leagues only, maybe on a loki things could be different.

You’ve really gotten me hooked with this thread. Loki is one of my favorite bots because you have (like in the Hover) unparalleled control over where you are on the map.

Given the meta, you either need to be able to spend loads of RM to equip your hangar with cryo weapons, or you need to think about a support type playstyle that keeps your honor payout per match high.

Healing and beacon capping come to mind, while avoiding brawling.
So LR setups for bots like Loki and Mender might make sense.

Disclaimer upfront: I have still zero experience with setups ranged >600m (always been a brawler and mid range supporter) but I just checked the stats on Molots and am tempted to try them out.

They are dirt cheap to level, and do at 2.12 over 6000 damage per sec. That’s 18k for a set of three and twice that against physical shields. Caveat: they’re useless against energy shields.

Kiting outside the range of an AM and getting around 180k of damage in before having to reload on your way to the next beacon won’t really cripple those F$@&ers but can make a difference if you chose your targets wisely.

Hi, I have an alternative option to consider. Try your Loki with Halo or Rime. I've been using this in FFA - and it may well translate to other modes (?). Obv, stay out of the 100m (110M?) radius of any Kid or Arthur, but approach from behind peripheral vision, uncloak, wait... wait... now unload weapons and immediately cloak again, you should do more than any other light weapon at 600m+

Just also be aware that the Loki can take an age to rotate at times, so get ready to run away if you are too close to the blast radius.

Until Titans have Quantum Radar, they will be driven nuts with Loki running around, grabbing beacons. Plus, atm, it seems players are unwilling to drop out of their Titan to deal with Loki.

I have been in battles where a Aphid Loki, highly leveled, dropped Mings.....in cloak, shoot, cloak...run to cover, uncloak, shoot, cloak, run around....

Best troll ever!....except maybe my Hydra/Spiral Griffin.....

I think you'd need to add some pilot skills with the molots to get it to work out.  I don't know the numbers, but I would think speed shooting (most important) and shot grouping (less important) would be very helpful.  Also, if you have him and go with Molots, the Basil pilot could help quite a bit.  But if you don't get the speed shooter skill, you might not even get to the accelerated shooting speed before you need to stealth again.  I think it's 3 seconds without it.

Also, this works far better on a Ming than the other 2 titans.  You won't have near as many open lanes of fire if you're running after beacons away from the action.  You'll mostly be shooting at the Ming Blimps.

The main reason I push the shredders is that often time late game, you don't get to choose to be 600+m out.  The Ming pilots start to close the gap when they have the numbers so you'll be will within the 500m distance for the shredders.  Also, the shredders are great as a brawler weapon within 200 and do tons of damage so it kinda does both fairly well.

Whichever way you go, I hope it works out for you.  Good luck!

Perhaps you should reiterate that Steam doesn’t have mode selection, just quick match.  So you want something that’s adaptable if you happen to get dropped into TDM with old Bacon Boy.

Standing still and shooting molots is sure to get you gibbed by the many LR and guided/rocket bots which are prevalent on TDM.  May I suggest Noricums with Lockdown Ammo?  Most people in TDM are hiding behind cover most the time if they aren’t a death squad